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Archived: Musclebikes (Sting-Rays, Krates, Choppers, etc.)







AGE / VALUE:   i need parts, REASONABLE posted by: johnny c on 9/19/2004 at 4:21:36 AM
cant afford a schwinn,so im fixing a 5 speed free spirit muscle bike,1970s,really need the rear rim complete,if it will work ill take any 20 inch 5 speed rimm complete that will work in decent shape chrome wise.handlbars,and neck ,stem? too,if you like email me direct,if can send good pictures,if helps ill send pics of what i have
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   i need parts, REASONABLE posted by Kurt K on 9/19/2004 at 7:07:28 PM
Would a new 36 spoke rim with a used Shimano hub laced work out for you? Would include stainless steel spokes. Probably around $45-50, w/o shipping.
by: 64.12.116.203

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   i need parts, REASONABLE posted by JOHNNY C on 9/19/2004 at 11:34:14 PM
THANKS KURT,BUT LOOKING USED ONE,KINDA LOWER END.

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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   i need parts, REASONABLE posted by Kurt K on 9/20/2004 at 1:16:29 AM
Dear Johnny,

I can do something for that price range too:

One 20" chrome rim, rusted on the surface, and under the chrome too (I'll clean it the best I can before sending it to you), but still structurally solid. Has used Shimano hub with 5 speed derailer sprocket and dull steel spokes. No spoke protector. $15, not including S&H costs.

Sound good?

Take care,

Kurt
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   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   i need parts, REASONABLE posted by Kurt K on 9/20/2004 at 1:23:33 AM
P.S.: I just MIGHT be able to get one of those 72-spoke or so "Lowrider" 20" wheels for you with a 5 speed derailer sprocket on it. Rusty, dull steel spokes, $35.
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   i need parts, REASONABLE posted by ziggy on 9/20/2004 at 9:48:12 PM
Last time I checked, all of those 20" lowrider wheels are a single speed coaster setup. The only multi speed wheel with all of those spokes I have seen were only available as a three speed. >: )
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   i need parts, REASONABLE posted by Kurt K on 9/21/2004 at 12:21:31 AM
That's quite right, Zig - but as I recall, this one rim had one of those freewheel sprockets on it, not a coaster sprocket.

I've done the sprocket conversion before on a conventional 26" rim with a freewheel, and if my memory serves me correct, this rim had a freewheel attachment as well. It came off of what appeared to be a BMX GT Vertigo frame - could have been a Pacific copy of the Vertigo.

I'm going back to this fellow who was selling it sometime in the near future (to see if he found any musclebikes in the trash :-) ), and I'll check on that rim again.

Take care,

Kurt
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   i need parts, REASONABLE posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/21/2004 at 9:25:20 AM
Dull steel spokes are actually galvanized. To clean them up nicely, I believe you can wipe them down with ammonia. Not as pretty as stainless steel, but they will look better!

Regards

Boneman
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AGE / VALUE:   fastback posted by: who cares on 9/18/2004 at 12:00:39 PM
where do i find the serial number on my fast back
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   fastback posted by ziggy on 9/19/2004 at 11:48:09 PM
Since you insisted on posting offending messages directed at ME, You won't be getting my help. >: /
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   fastback posted by Fastbuck on 9/20/2004 at 1:54:26 AM
Ooooooo...nasty guy...i'm so mad...oooooo
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   fastback posted by mike main on 9/21/2004 at 1:08:00 AM
i was told that a schwinn fast back is about depending on cond. $400
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   fastback posted by mike main on 9/21/2004 at 1:08:17 AM
i was told that a schwinn fast back is about depending on cond. $400
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WANTED:   chopper bikes posted by: steve on 9/17/2004 at 9:07:12 PM
any idea where my club can purchase chopper bicyles? we may need a mixture of +/- 50 bikes for adults and children. condition may not be important right now; but pricing is. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thanks
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   RE:WANTED:   chopper bikes posted by Kurt K on 9/19/2004 at 7:17:30 PM
Steve,

Roadmaster is now making 20" lowrider/musclebike lookalikes, with a BMX look to the frame - you can get them at Wal-Mart for around $78.

I could also supply you with conversion parts (banana seats, springer forks, etc) for standard 26" Huffy cruisers like the ones at Walmart for adults. These parts require partial disassembly of the bike.

I have built musclebike lookalikes in the past, but the prices would probably run way off budget for you.

Let me know if I can be of service.

Take care,

Kurt
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   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bikes posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/21/2004 at 9:28:37 AM
Hmmm... I've often pondered putting a springer fork on my dog's bike. It's an Huffy "Ocala" 6-speed. Not a bad ride for the dough I spent...

No, my dog does not RIDE it... but it has a kewl "Canine Cruiser" leash affixed to the rear axle.

Is it possible to put such a fork on this bike and include the front fender and brake assembly? Lemme know.... I'm interested.

Thanks!

Boneman
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   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bikes posted by Kurt K on 9/21/2004 at 10:51:43 PM
You have email, Larry
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bikes posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/22/2004 at 12:00:04 AM
So I see! Will get back to you soon, sir with pics and dims as requested.

Thanks!

Boneman
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bikes posted by Kurt K on 9/22/2004 at 12:00:06 AM
You got email, Larry
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bikes posted by Kurt K on 9/22/2004 at 12:00:58 AM
Ok! Will be looking for your reply.

Sorry about the double-post, BTW
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   RE:WANTED:   chopper bikes posted by j on 10/5/2004 at 2:00:44 AM
I build choppers for $125, email if your interested, weststreetbikes@hotmail.com

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FOR SALE:   Are you looking for a nice original Rams Horn Sting Ray posted by: Ray on 9/16/2004 at 3:45:28 PM
I have up on ebay right now a nice Schwinn Rams Horn Sting Ray bike. Low reserve for a nice bike like this. Read posting for all the details and photos.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=420&item=2270055740
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MISC:   Persons banana seats posted by: Kurt K on 9/16/2004 at 12:49:05 AM
Hello folks,

Happened across some Persons banana seats in the backroom of a local shop today. I found two - both purple metalflake with silver "stiching" with a single spring in front, connected to a U shaped brace that runs down the length of the seat to the sissybar, and also has a seatpost mount on it. They have some heavy shop wear, but the one of the two seats I looked at did not have any tears in it, and appeared that the padding should clean up nicely. The spring could stand to be rechromed, and the U bar sandblasted.

I also found a yellow-metalflake Schwinn Stingray banana seat in the shop too - cleaned it up while I was there to see what condition it was. Metal pan with marginal rust. Yellow padding cleaned up in great shape with no tears and a few moisture dots. Has a molded-in "stiched" pattern to it. Has a Permaco sticker on the bottom.

I might be able to convince him to part with these 3 seats, all, two or one. If any of you musclebike folks are interested, drop me a line here, or at cudak888@aol.com, and make an offer - I will ask him if the price is agreeable to him.

(Keep in mind that there will be shipping costs added to this offer, just like any eBay transaction!)

Take care,

Kurt
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   RE:MISC:   Persons banana seats posted by Kurt K on 9/16/2004 at 1:01:31 AM
P.S.: He claims that these seats are N.O.S., and he bought them 25 years ago when he opened the shop up. I can't guarantee this, as they are not bagged. They don't seem to have any scratches on the seatpost clamp though.
by: 64.12.116.203

   RE:RE:MISC:   Persons banana seats posted by Kurt K on 9/18/2004 at 1:15:49 AM
Hey! Don't be shy! Make an offer!
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   RE:MISC:   Persons banana seats posted by mike on 12/25/2004 at 9:29:44 PM
5 bucks for the yellow seat
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MISC:   occ limeted addition info posted by: stacie on 9/15/2004 at 2:05:44 AM
hi im interested in info about the occ limited stingray. like who many were made if there still being made and where to buy accessories and are they really gonna be worth anything
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   RE:MISC:   occ limeted addition info posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/15/2004 at 9:20:09 AM
Hmmmm... good question. As far as being a "limited edition", considering how staggeringly popular they seem to be, I get the feeling that the sky is the limit on production numbers. I don't recall seeing any information of that nature on the website, but perhaps if you dig around, it may be there.

http://www.schwinnstingray.com

As to potential value? That's very difficult to predict. As in the past, when Stingrays and bikes of that nature ruled the streets, a full 70% of the bikes sold were "musclebikes". Many of them are quite valuable at this time, though it is 30 to 40 years later in many cases.

"Accessories" are beginning to show up on Ebay. "Fork bags", badges, that sort of thing. I would have to imagine that eventually all this stuff will filter down at retail.

Since there are copious quantities of these bikes being produced, it's also possible that aftermarket manufacturers will be interested in producing "goodies" to hang on them as well.

Regards,

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:RE:MISC:   occ limeted addition info posted by ziggy on 9/15/2004 at 9:39:40 PM
No comment. >: /
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   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   occ limeted addition info posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/16/2004 at 12:03:42 AM
Ziggy, your silence speaks VOLUMES! ;-)

Later!

Boneman
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   occ limeted addition info posted by ziggy on 9/17/2004 at 8:14:20 PM
Of course. >: )
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   occ limeted addition info posted by ziggy on 9/17/2004 at 8:16:20 PM
Of course. >: )
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FOR SALE:   murray firecat front rim posted by: brendon on 9/13/2004 at 12:57:31 AM
i have for sale a firecat chopper original 20''front rim.it is beautiful mint condition.selling for $20+shipping.
by: 66.185.84.199


   RE:FOR SALE:   murray firecat front rim posted by Chris on 9/26/2004 at 9:46:36 PM
I have a 1964 complete metallic purple murray firecat in excellent condition. I saw a 1977 firecat go for 277 bucks on ebay I figure a 1964 would go for alot more. What do you think a 1964 firecat would go for? Or if you wanted to buy one what would be a good price? There are two things I need to mention first. The only thing that is not original are the handle bar grips. The only major flaw is the back tire fender is faded to a white color but you can still see alot of the purple paint, the bike is metallic purple with flames. Very cool : ) If you would like a pic I can get you one. Any sort of Ideas or help would be great. Thanks!
Chris
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FOR SALE:   1964 Mattel V-Rroom Bike - Never Assembled posted by: Dee Anna on 9/12/2004 at 4:31:05 PM
We have a MIB never-assembled Mattel V-Rroom bicycle for sale on Ebay. If you would like to check it out here is a link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=420&item=2268168597

We also have a Schwinn Stingray here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35961&item=2268145639

Email with any questions!


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MISC:    posted by: ziggy on 9/11/2004 at 5:33:56 PM
OK guys. If you live in Upstate New york in the Burnt hills Ballston lake area, stay away from a bike store called "Freemans Bridge Sports". I was jerked around for three weeks waiting for three parts, and they managed to screw it up. Just stay away. >: /
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   RE:MISC:    posted by j on 9/14/2004 at 6:20:30 PM
also in NY:
if your on Long Island stay away from a bike store in deer park / babylon (unsure of name, think is "deer park bicycle) located on deerpark ave / 231, call them up, no matter what you want, they have it, it can be ANYTHING (a krate for example) you go all the way over there it seriously is:
"what? we dont have that, we'd have to order it"
once I called up about a springer sissy bar "oh yeah we got those, there $15"
I go down there: "what?" "you said you had it on the phone" "no we just have one of the regular ones, we dont have the one with the springs, those are $60, we'd have to order it"

so I figure, one more try "I need a 16" white wall tire" "yeah we got the 1.25" ones in stock, there $9.50.
I go down there, and hey, look at they, they have no clue what I'm talking about and didn't even have a 16" tire of any color!!! one of my friends bought a lowrider there (needless to say it had to be ordered) that I've seen for at the most about $250, they charged him close to $500 for it!!!

so I'm done with them, they stink.

the bike store I WOULD reccomend is one in levittown called "dannys bicycle" I belive, its way out of my way but its a much bigger store and so far the've had pretty much everything I need.
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   RE:MISC:    posted by tom on 9/27/2004 at 12:40:56 AM
hi,

my cousins grew up in levittown they said dannys is the best bike shop also try brands on wantagh ave and sunrise highway in wantagh
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   RE:MISC:    posted by mike on 12/12/2004 at 7:51:26 PM
if your around oceanside on long island try oceanside cycles they have a lot of lowrider and muscle bike parts

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AGE / VALUE:   roadmaster muscle bike posted by: Bob on 9/11/2004 at 1:31:28 AM
I have just got a roadmaster muscle bike with a slick on the back are these worth anything ? I do not see much about them on this site.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   roadmaster muscle bike posted by JOHNNY C on 9/20/2004 at 5:10:06 AM
CAN YOU SEND PICTURES?
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MISC:   New Custom Forum... posted by: Widowmaker502 on 9/10/2004 at 9:15:07 PM
I have turned the now defunct motobikes forum into the Custom Bicycle Forum.

This forum is created to talk about all custom bikes including cruisers, choppers, limos, lowriders, muscle bikes and more. We hope that you stop over and sign up (its totally free) and join in on the discussions!

http://widowmaker502.proboards20.com/index.cgi

Enjoy...
Brian


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AGE / VALUE:   please help me determine model and year posted by: Shauni on 9/10/2004 at 1:09:13 AM
Hi, just trying to find info on my schwinn...its black and it has stickers that say "cruiser" I think the serial # is SF002237. I also just bought another one serial # LL515744 (its red). Thanks :)
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   please help me determine model and year posted by Shauni on 9/17/2004 at 12:17:23 AM
Hi its me again, still hoping someone can help me ID the year and model of my Schwinn, but this time I have a photo of it...once again the serial # is SF002237. It seems like a stingray, but it has "cruiser" stickers on the frame and on the chain guard. I'm not real good with sizes, but I think its 20". Anyways if anybody can help it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ;)


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AGE / VALUE:   NOS SLICKS posted by: Canadian Bananadude on 9/8/2004 at 12:43:03 AM
I may have happened upon some NOS Redline Slicks from an older fella looking to find a home for them. He has 4 of them.
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WANTED:   murry "firecat" posted by: Rudy on 9/8/2004 at 12:13:53 AM
I was wondering if any one had one of these for sale? I had one when I was a kid, that ended up being stolen and later, recovered. The person that took it had already switched the rear slick, and started repainting it, long story short, that Christmas I recieved a new 26" mountain bike and really do not know what happened to my chopper. Any way, I happened upon this site, now I'm curious to find another one.
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   RE:WANTED:   murry posted by ziggy on 9/8/2004 at 1:29:03 PM
You could try ebay. I don't see too many of those anymore. Too bad that it was stolen. Try checking the attic of your old house. ; )
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   RE:WANTED: murry posted by mike on 3/16/2005 at 11:12:33 PM
there was just a mint condition one that went off ebay a few days ago for like 400$
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MISC:   Schwinn Sting-Rays 1998-1999 posted by: Gary on 9/7/2004 at 8:36:35 PM
Hi,

Can anyone tell me exactly what colors and models of Sting-Ray and Krate bikes were made in 1998-1999? I am looking to buy one for my son to ride. Any chance someone can give me a rough estimate of market prices?

Thanks from a newbie,
Gary
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   RE:MISC:   Schwinn Sting-Rays 1998-1999 posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/8/2004 at 11:35:49 PM
Uhhh... actually, the original Stingray was last produced I believe in 9175.

Good news is... they are introducing NEW ones this year... limited editions of the oritingal Stingrays (Krates?) for 2004. As to price... anyone's guess methinks. But, perhaps armed with this knowledge, you may be able to work a deal with your local Schwinn dealer?

So... as to the colours produced the years in question... "invisible" comes to mind. ;-)

Info about Stingrays, old and new can be found at:

http://www.schwinnstingray.com

Later!

Boneman
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   RE:MISC:   Schwinn Sting-Rays 1998-1999 posted by Gary on 9/9/2004 at 1:13:25 AM
Hi Boneman,

The Krates and Rays were last made by the original Schwinn company in 1978. They went bankrupt, and a new version of that company reproduced Krates and Rays which were released in 1998-1999. Then they went totally out of business, and the brand name Schwinn was sold to Huffy. The new Krate and Ray are made by Huffy, using the Schwinn name. I am looking for info on the '98-99 bikes.

Gary
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   RE:RE:MISC:   Schwinn Sting-Rays 1998-1999 posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/9/2004 at 1:05:11 PM
Ah... OK, I sit corrected. Or... shall I say "edified".

I was unaware of that part of the history. Hence, I don't have any of that information for you... Good deal though... learn something every day!

Later!

Boneman
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   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Schwinn Sting-Rays 1998-1999 posted by ziggy on 9/10/2004 at 7:58:22 PM
It sucks that Huffy is now using the schwinn name. It sucks because if you find a schwinn "stingray" in a store, there is a little booklet attached to it. On almost every f*cking page it sais "genuine schwinn parts". My ass. >: /
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Schwinn Sting-Rays 1998-1999 posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/11/2004 at 3:19:33 AM
Schwinn has been doing that since time out of mind Ziggy. When I was a kid, parts were either "genuine Schwinn" or "Schwinn Approved" no matter whom the manufacturer of said part actually was.

I was unaware that Huffy had bought the Schwinn name until this thread. To be honest, it's rather amazing the bikes that sell at Walmart... and the prices of them. 18 speed MTB's with indexed shifting and full suspensions for under a hundred bucks?!?!?!!? Mind boggling. Of course, I am a firm believer in you get what you pay for... but still!

To think I mowed lawns, shoveled driveways, etc. for two whole years to save up the handsome sum of $100 in 1970 in order to procure a 10-speed Raleigh Sprite 27.

Ah... c'est la vie, eh?

Later!

Boneman
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Schwinn Sting-Rays 1998-1999 posted by D Smith on 9/19/2004 at 11:43:58 PM
The Stingrays were offered up into the 80's. If you can find any cataloges from then you will see that there was at least one model offered.
Schwinn is owned By Pacicfic Cycles which in turn is owned by a Canadian owned company called Dorel Industries. Huffy is not involved with Schwinn at all.
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   RE:MISC:   Schwinn Sting-Rays 1998-1999 posted by Gary on 9/21/2004 at 7:45:09 PM
I stand corrected - a dealer told me it was Huffy. Pacific Cycle bought the assets of Schwinn for $86 million.

http://www.dirtworld.com/INDUSTRYNEWS/IndustryStory.asp?id=409
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