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Archived discussions: July 17, 1997 through Sep. 17, 1997
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Subject:
Entered on: Dec 5, 1997 17:36
Entered by: David L.

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Question: how much do these bikes weigh?Baloon tire bikes?Are middle weights different?




Subject: Ballooner Vs. Middleweight
Entered on: Dec 6, 1997 12:40
Entered by: johnB

Message:
It's just a matter of tire size, mainly. Balloon tire bikes have 2.125" tires and middleweight bkes have 1.75" or 1-3/4" tires. Middleweights are a more recent development (mid 50's) and tend not to have big horntanks and other motorcycle type equipment.




Subject: 1938 COLSON REAR REFLECTOR WANTED
Entered on: Dec 10, 1997 21:42
Entered by: ed

Message:
WANTED REAR DELTA FIREFLY REFLECTOR FOR A 1938 COLSON BIKE THE REFLECTOR IS ROUND RUBBER THANKS ED




Subject: Hawthorne
Entered on: Dec 12, 1997 16:59
Entered by: Howard

Message:
Is anybody looking for a red Hawthorne bicycle?I have one. It's a girls frame in good condition.Ther serial number is B799337. Loks to old to bea 79 and not old enough for 37. It has 1.75 tires but the fenders seem to swallow them. Probably should be 2.125. Luggage carrier, reflector on back fender, galvanized wheels.Interested? hmurrill@ix.netcom.com




Subject: F/S Schwinn Fleet & Generator Set
Entered on: Dec 15, 1997 11:12
Entered by: Bill

Message:
F/S 64 Schwinn Fleet, 2 speed kickback, Red with tank asking $150 plus shipping. Also 67 NOS generator set in box $75 plus shipping. Contact Bill at 908-688-4742 in the evenings eastern time.Wild Bill




Subject: Black Phantom Parts/Value
Entered on: Dec 15, 1997 16:30
Entered by: Tim

Message:
I have come into the possession of a 1958 SchwinBlack Phantom. The bike is complete but in need of complete restoration. Where can I buy parts to restoreand how much would a nicely restored Black Phantom be worth???




Subject: RE: Black Phantom Parts/Value
Entered on: Dec 15, 1997 15:54
Entered by: JimB

Message:
You can buy parts for your Black Phantom from Memory Lane Classics and other restoration shops. A properly restored Black Phantom should be worth $2000-3000, but it will probably take you close to $2000 to do a proper restoration including paint.




Subject: Oeglaend Information
Entered on: Dec 18, 1997 09:00
Entered by: RoarS

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Subject: Oegland Information Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:34:17 +0100 From: Ketil Johansen Organization: SAPRO AS To: menotomy@aol.com CC: ketiljo@login.eunet.no About the Oeglaend Perfekt Bicycle. Perfekt was one of several brands manufactured by the company "Jonas Oeglaend A/S" in Sandnes, Norway. Other brands were "D.B.S." ("Den Beste Sykkel" which translates as "The Best Bicycle"), "Elite", "Fram", "Kamerat", "Spesial", "Tempo", "Viking", "Junior", "Donald Duck", and "Ole Brumm" ("Winnie the Pooh"). The last three were kids' bikes. I have done a lot of research on bicycle manufacture in Norway, and so far has registered more than 5oo different brands. Most of thes were based on frames from "Jonas Oeglaend A/S". The company was founded in 1868 as a trading company. In the early 1890's they started importing german bicycles. In 1898 "Arnold, Schwinn, & Co." in Chicago granted them the distribution rights in Norway for "The World" bicycles. These bicycles were sold well into the 1930's. In 1933 their most popular brand was copyrighted: "D.B.S.". This brand survives to this day. For all you muscle bikes afficinados out there, I can inform you that the company also manufactured the fabulous "Crossmaster", "Apache", and "Tomahawk" types in the 60's and 70's. All legendary muscle bikes with a big cult following today. In fact re-designed (and uglier) "Apaches" and "Tomahawks" were re-introduced this year to a less than over-awed public. You just cannot repeat a success THAT easily. "Perfekt" was a cheaper type and survived into the late 60's. I have a complete list of production figures based on frame numbers and can determine the exact year of manufacture, if you give me the frame number. It would be very interesting to read more about how and where you got hold of it. There can't be THAT many old norwegian built bicycles in the U.S. Roar S.




Subject: RoarS
Entered on: Dec 19, 1997 13:09
Entered by: Philsh

Message:
Thanks for taking the time to enter that. I once had a D.B.S. and couldn't find anything about it.




Subject: Info on Libertas
Entered on: Dec 20, 1997 12:26
Entered by: Ernei

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Looking for any info on a Libertas bicycle. Mine has the name Depsy etched on the chainguard. It has wooden fenders and wheels and I think it may have been manufactured in the WW2 era, as the frame, etc., looks too modern to have been made in the 1910's-20's.




Subject: Decisions...decisions...
Entered on: Dec 21, 1997 11:00
Entered by: Ken

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I need some advice in choosing between two reproduction bikes. Whichever I choose will see fairly regular use as a light delivery carrier. (10-20 letters a week in our downtown area.) Both bikes are 26" Balloners with Tanks (But no horn in the tanks.) and racks. The First is a Western Flyer, Red + White. Pros - $250. cost, headlight, full chain cover. Con - STREAMERS! (Yuck!), painted fenders. 2nd - Schwinn Cruiser Deluxe, Maroon + Black (Strange colors but not a turn off.) Pros - springer, chrome fenders Cons - $350. cost The Cost seems to be the tough factor. I know the Schwinn normally retails for @ $450., but the $250 for the WF is really attractive. Which is likely to retain most of its value in the future?




Subject: Get the Western Flyer
Entered on: Dec 23, 1997 08:15
Entered by: jj ()

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The WF is a great deal. And if you really need a springer pick up a Taiwan one for around $40. You'll be way ahead. As for future value, the Schwinn isn't US made anymore and the WF name is already more 'rare'.




Subject: Thankx, but...
Entered on: Dec 23, 1997 17:51
Entered by: Ken (kensmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us)

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...while nothing is a `done deal' yet, the wife picked the Schwinn. Actually, the owner of the Schwinn is talking a possible trade for my old '61 Sears middleweight.




Subject: "Odd" 1952 Schwinn Panther
Entered on: Dec 24, 1997 08:45
Entered by: Craig (leitgeb_c@spcvxa.spc.edu)

Message:
My '52 Panther has several oddities. First, the Delta Rocket 4Ray is all chrome,while all of the other Schwinns I've seen with 'Rays have them painted to match the bike. Is it possible someone removed the paint, or did some lights come this way from the factory? Lastly, the Bendix brake on this bike, which has the brake arm with the red lettering, has a dull gray finish, both on the hub shell and the brake arm itself. Did any Bendix hubs come this way from the factory? I doubt the hub was repainted. Thanks in advance. Craig




Subject: Panther
Entered on: Dec 24, 1997 08:47
Entered by: PeterW (longtruck@hotmail.com)

Message:
I've seen a lot of dull-finish Bendix hubs and brake arms, so that sounds right. But I dunno about the chromed light. I've seen painted only. Haven't even seen them as accessories in chrome.




Subject: Dull vs Chrome finishes
Entered on: Dec 24, 1997 09:50
Entered by: Ray (Wheelman1) (Wheelman1@msn.com)

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I have come across both finishes when looking at Delta Rocket Ray lights. I have seen them painted and then I have seen them chromed. The chrome models usually came with a painted housing with the chrome showing through the rim that goes around the entire body of the light. The nose piece is always chrome but the chrome body seems to appear on the more deluxe bicycles like a 50s balloon Panther. My guess is that the full chrome body is one of these deluxe lights with the paint removed. Next the hubs, rims and handlebars. I also have encountered dull finish on these components. I know it is not chrome and also know it was not rusted or abused. I currently have a girls Schwinn World from either the late 40s or early 50s that has this type of finish on all bare metal parts. This may have been a result of the WWII needs for precious metals. Hope this helps. Ray (Wheelman1)




Subject: Rocket Ray
Entered on: Dec 24, 1997 20:56
Entered by: Ken (kensmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us)

Message:
A LBS in my area has several Rocket Rays in stock. (Presumably reproduction.) They've got them in both white and chrome. They retail here for $150.




Subject: Schmelzer 20s or 30s vintage
Entered on: Dec 29, 1997 00:35
Entered by: mike (Nascar 0416)

Message:
Need info about a bike I found . Any info would be helpful.




Subject: schwinn/old bikes for sale
Entered on: Dec 30, 1997 00:25
Entered by: ryan (gwhite@pacifier.com)

Message:
does anybody have any old bikes for sale?




Subject: kombi
Entered on: Jan 2, 1998 06:36
Entered by: jani ()

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does anyone have a oglaend goldie kombi bicycle?i do . it rules!




Subject: western flyer vs schwinn replicas
Entered on: Jan 2, 1998 08:10
Entered by: DavidH ()

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I have the more deluxe version of the WF you are talking about. Mine has all the options but is a fairly cheaply made bike. They are somewhat collectible. They are both cheaply made versions of the Columbie 5 star replica. I believe the WF is a better investment, but any of the schwinns are probably better riders.




Subject: 1950 Monark Super Cruiser
Entered on: Jan 2, 1998 21:08
Entered by: Michael (mtb214@ebtv.net)

Message:
I have a 1950ish Monark Super Cruiser with a Firestone decal on the tank. The bike is in fair condition. I'm considering restoration. I also need a horn for this bike. It mounts insde the tank. anyone with any info on this style bike please e-mail or leave message here. thank you.




Subject: e-mail correction for above
Entered on: Jan 2, 1998 20:44
Entered by: Michael (mtb214@webtv.net)

Message:
e-mail correction for above. thanks




Subject: e-mail correction for above
Entered on: Jan 2, 1998 21:00
Entered by: Michael (mtb214@webtv.net)

Message:
e-mail correction for above. thanks




Subject: 1962 fleet
Entered on: Jan 2, 1998 23:51
Entered by: dave (wave69@aol.com)

Message:
I recently picked up an all original and complete Schwinn "fleet" never seen another. Looks like an American deluxe. 1962 midweight. Any Info Apreciated. Also looking for mens frame apropriate for my shelby airflow restoration -THANX




Subject: Cleveland Welding-Hiawatha
Entered on: Jan 3, 1998 12:16
Entered by: andy (rosea@mail.nwc.whecn.edu)

Message:
Am restoring a late 40's(?) ballon tire bike. Springer forks to the side, rear dropouts,skip-tooth chainwheel, ser no D09828. Am trying to locate original colors, red and white, for accurate paint match. Also need chain guard seat reupholstered (where?), and does anyone know how to control crack/checking in old rubber tires? How can I ID this bike? Andy




Subject: Huffy Mainliner?
Entered on: Jan 4, 1998 14:46
Entered by: Ken (kensmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us)

Message:
Picked up a 50's balloner in a trade. The chainguard says "Huffy Mainliner" Its a 26"x2.125" Mens straightbar, Red, white trim and blue fenders. A local bike shop owner thought the Mainliner was produced only as a Middleweight until he saw this one. (Its deffinetly not a retrofitted middleweight.) Does anyone know when it might have been produced? (My guess is 52-56 but I'd like some other opinions.)




Subject: Harley Davidson 1st Edition Bike
Entered on: Jan 5, 1998 13:19
Entered by: Forrest (bikeworld@juno.com)

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I have one of the Harley 1st edition bikes in my collection. Have they gone up in value? And is there much demand for the bikes? This bike has not been taken out of the box, should I keep it in the box or build it up? If I wanted to sell it, what is the best way to market this bike?




Subject: RE:Harley Davidson 1st Edition Bike
Entered on: Jan 5, 1998 13:51
Entered by: Jim Divoky (jim.divoky@worldnet.att.net)

Message:
It's hard to enjoy a bike in the box. Recent prices I've seen are $5000 & $3000. However, someone was offering to deliver one to your door for $2600 and I think I saw another for $2200. One is up for auction at www.ebay.com and the current price is $1575. No spare parts are available so if you ride it you may wish to swap tires. I'd say, at least assemble it so you can appreciate it but it would be worth more in the box. The question is when.




Subject:
Entered on: Jan 6, 1998 02:15
Entered by: CHAD (CBRACING@WEBTV.NET)

Message:
I WANT OUT!!!! BUY MY 26" STUFF SKIP TOOTH SPROCKETS S-2 WHEELS, A OLD WOOD WHEEL, OLD SEATS ALL USED STUFF BUT COOL TOO!!! SELL CHEAP NEW SCHWINN REISSUED 26" TIRES WHITEWALL KNOBBY AND WESTWIND 12.00 EA. ALSO SCHWINN TANK BLUE 30.00, A S REISSUED PEDALS LIKE ON PHANTOMS 15.00PR. OH YAH BIKES TOO 50'S 26" GIRLS SCHWINN 50.00, 60'S SCHWINN 26" SOME NICE SOME NOT 30-150.00.




Subject: Value of old Columbia
Entered on: Jan 7, 1998 12:00
Entered by: Franco ()

Message:
How much is an old Columbia worth? It has 26 by 2.125 black tires and is a boy's bike. Original paint. Chrome is not too good. No tank or springer or racks. Ballpark???


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Subject: More
Entered on: Jan 7, 1998 12:03
Entered by: Franco ()

Message:
Also, it has no chainguard and the front fender has a flare but the rear does not. Thanks you.


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Subject: Looking for a Schwinn Springer 26"
Entered on: Jan 7, 1998 12:45
Entered by: PeterW (longtruck@hotmail.com)

Message:
Looking for a Schwinn Springer 26". Must have good chrome.


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Subject: Go to www.ebay.com for good bicycle stuff at auction
Entered on: Jan 8, 1998 12:49
Entered by: Scott Allison (npcycle@cari.net)

Message:
This is a GREAT place to check out and bid on good stuff!


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Subject: Double straightbar Middleweight Typhoon ForSale
Entered on: Jan 8, 1998 17:38
Entered by: Todd (tphunt@muscanet.com)

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I am selling my Typhoon. It resembles a cantilever- only the upper small tubes are straight instead of continuing to curve. It is complete and original, ride it or restore- $100 plus shipping.


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Subject: Be careful on e-bay
Entered on: Jan 10, 1998 18:26
Entered by: Eric ()

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About one week ago I saw a person bid over 100.00 for a schwinn sign that they sell at the schwinn collector page for 20.00 I e-mailed the seller and asked if it was an original he said he thought it was a reproduction.Boy that is alot to pay for not doing your homework.


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Subject: I agree with my brother
Entered on: Jan 10, 1998 18:34
Entered by: John Brewer (Coolbikes@webtv.net)

Message:
I have got some good deals on ebay But you should be careful.What is your experience with ebay?=


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Subject: eBay
Entered on: Jan 10, 1998 23:00
Entered by: Bob Hufford (bhufford@mail.orion.org)

Message:
I have had no bad experiences on eBay (bought about a dozen different items). I too have seen some items misrepresented and have had no qualms in e-mailing the sellers/bidders to let them know what was up. If this thread continues, let's move it to the "Other" discussion category so as not to clutter up the "Balloon" area.


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Subject: Iver Johnson (womans )for sale $200 plus shpg.
Entered on: Jan 11, 1998 17:22
Entered by: Bob Siegel (703)569-5240 VA (kbsiegel@juno.com)

Message:
Iver Johnson womans for sale $200 plus shipping; good condition Shown on pg. 84 Evolution... Vol 2 Must sell. Bob, (703)569-5240 email kbsiegel@juno.com


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Subject: Shelbys-Supreme & Flying Cloud For sale
Entered on: Jan 11, 1998 17:32
Entered by: Bob Siegel, VA (kbsiegel@juno.com)

Message:
Shelbys For Sale These must go! Supreme $250+shipping Flying cloud $200+shipping (703) 569-5240 VA Bob, email kbsiegel@juno.com


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Subject: 24: Boys Cantilever, info. needed
Entered on: Jan 11, 1998 17:39
Entered by: Bob Siegel (kbsiegel@juno.com)

Message:
24" boys Cantilever bicycle. Complete bike rough but a rider spitfire model. Bob Siegel (703)569-5240 kbsiegel@juno.com


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Subject: 1941 Columbia Floating Front Hub???
Entered on: Jan 11, 1998 19:42
Entered by: Jim Divoky (jim.divoky@att.worldnet.att.net)

Message:
Does anyone know what the Floating Front Hub is that is pictured on Page 4 of the 1941 Columbia Bicycle Catalog reproduction that ships with the Columbia 1941 Dashboard Bike reproduction? Thanks, Jim


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Subject: Looking for JC Higgins tank
Entered on: Jan 12, 1998 09:24
Entered by: The Keefer ()

Message:
Looking for a men's tank for a 1956 JC Higgins. Need horn unit, too.




Subject: Elgin Skirt Bike, Pre war
Entered on: Jan 12, 1998 09:16
Entered by: Craig ()

Message:
I purchased a Elgin Girls Skirt bike at a garage sale. the serial number under the crank is E66121. It has a skip tooth chain, yankee clipper tires(black wall). Everthing is original. except the kickstand. What are the metal grids called that bolt on the frame below the seat? I'm told that it is about 1336 to 1939. I'm looking for a original kickstand.




Subject: StratoChief - 1953?
Entered on: Jan 12, 1998 21:34
Entered by: Pat ()

Message:
I have a ladies StratoChief approximately 1953 balloon tire bicycle in excellent condition. Can anyone talk to me about this bike and what it might be worth?




Subject: CAN YOU IDENTIFY
Entered on: Jan 14, 1998 07:37
Entered by: DAVE (fdgibson@udata.com)

Message:
Trying to find make and ago of old ballon tire bike - quessing back in the '30s or '40' - has serial number on bottom of frame under crank of M237470 - no other identity or markings. Has two bars from front to seat - bottom one is straight and top one is straight except for 8 or 10 inches back by seat. Bar from front down to crank is also straight. Post for saddle is 5/8" diameter. Has New Departure brake. Would like to restore if I can identify. Picture available by lst class mail. If you can help - would appreciate reply with your address. Will send picture at that time. Thanks! Dave




Subject: Elgin skirt bike
Entered on: Jan 14, 1998 08:31
Entered by: kath ()

Message:
Not sure what metal grids you mean? Do you mean the skirts?




Subject: Strato-Chief
Entered on: Jan 14, 1998 08:32
Entered by: kath ()

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What accessories? Tank? Built in horn? Spinger? lights?




Subject: RE: "Can you identify"
Entered on: Jan 14, 1998 08:34
Entered by: kath ()

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Sounds like a Cleveland Welding frame. Does it look like the Cadillac-brand bike Menotomy has on his "Vintage Bikes for Sale" page?




Subject: RE: Skirt Bike
Entered on: Jan 14, 1998 08:35
Entered by: Craig ()

Message:
I guess they would be the skirt guards? I originally had a motorcycle type kickstand. Correction on the date - 1936-1939 would that be about the year it was made? (sn E66121) I gather is it a pretty common bike. I'm wondering how far I should go in restoring it.




Subject: Skirt bike...
Entered on: Jan 15, 1998 08:32
Entered by: kath ()

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Yes, it is worth restoring. They are not that common, and it is from the 'sweet spot' of the ballooner era. Now when was the last time you saw a bike with a skirt guard? ........... If the paint is half way decent, you should restore the paint (not repaint it!). Read the "Paint" and "Rust" topics on this site.




Subject: Reproduction Bicycles
Entered on: Jan 15, 1998 15:37
Entered by: Menotomy Vintage Bicycles ()

Message:
We've added a new discussion topic devoted just to the new reproduction bicycles (Columbia dashboard, Harley-Davidson, new Phantom, etc).




Subject: Custom Hawthorne PreWar- I need parts
Entered on: Jan 15, 1998 20:56
Entered by: Todd (tphunt@muscanet.com)

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I want to build up my prewar Hawthorne. It has been very neglected and needs everything. I am looking for parts that would compliment this era- do not have to be original for this bike. It had curved drop center rims, Cleveland Welding style handlebars. I would like to buy fenders, rack, drop kickstand, seat, seatpost, pedals. I like the looks of the prewar "red" tires and pedals. Can anyone offer any parts or advice for building this thing? It has a front fork that looks like recent year Huffy- is it possible that this bike came with such a fork? I may want to switch to a springer.... Thanks!




Subject: Pre-war Hawthorne
Entered on: Jan 16, 1998 09:02
Entered by: jj ()

Message:
I don't have any parts, but might be able to give information on the fork. When you say it looks like a Huffy fork, do you mean the top of the forks are held together by 3 horizontal plates? If that is what you mean, then you DO have the correct fork. As for restoration ideas, yeah red tires and pedals would look cool. Also some kind of flared fenders. Have fun.




Subject: HELLO
Entered on: Jan 26, 1998 15:22
Entered by: DavidH ()

Message:
Has everyone died out there. Did all bicycles disapear. What happened to everyone.




Subject: DavidH
Entered on: Jan 26, 1998 22:14
Entered by: Kevin (adrsg@net-nerds.com)

Message:
David, Amen. Maybe we should say something bad about Schwinns (using aliases of course)




Subject: Everyone is in their garages and basements
Entered on: Jan 27, 1998 14:07
Entered by: Mfeeney ()

Message:
Everyone is in their garages and basements working away in order to get their bike projects ready for spring. Now get away from that computer and fix that rust!




Subject: AIRMAN SPECIAL
Entered on: Jan 27, 1998 20:07
Entered by: Todd (tphunt@muscanet.com)

Message:
Who made this model?




Subject: Replacement tires
Entered on: Jan 28, 1998 15:56
Entered by: Craig ()

Message:
In the process of restoring my elgin, I've been told it had Allstate tires on it when it was new. the present tires are "Cornell Clipper" 26X2.125 black walls. Were these tires made about the same time? the bike is a 1939-40.




Subject: right
Entered on: Jan 28, 1998 18:11
Entered by: DavidH ()

Message:
Hey, I can't think of any bad words for Schwinn except for the current regime but thats another story. Keep fixing those bikes & good luck.




Subject: Scwhinn
Entered on: Jan 28, 1998 21:25
Entered by: Kevin (adrsg@net-nerds.com)

Message:
I've got nothing bad to say about Schwinns either. I just sorta missed comming home and seeing something new. I often don't have much to say or ask but I do feel like I'm learning something. For the sake of something to say... I've got a Shelby Flyer frame in the pile, I recallreading references to other Shelby's but not this model. Are all Shelby's built by the same company (probably a silly question). when did the Shelby Cycling Company stop making bicycles?




Subject: Is it me or...
Entered on: Jan 29, 1998 05:30
Entered by: Ken (kensmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us)

Message:
...do new balloon tires (26x2.125) seem smaller than vintage ones?




Subject: Airman Special
Entered on: Jan 29, 1998 08:49
Entered by: Msavage ()

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I think they were badged for Speigel (catalog company like Sears). Made by Monarch.




Subject: Cornell Clippers
Entered on: Jan 29, 1998 09:12
Entered by: MSavage ()

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Cornell Clippers sound right for your Elgin.




Subject: "smaller" balloon tires
Entered on: Jan 29, 1998 09:14
Entered by: MSavage ()

Message:
I think you are right. Even putting 2 new brands together, I can see a difference in size. The Kenda 26 x 2.125 is definately bigger than the Cheng san 26 x 2.125. But they both fit rims correctly.




Subject: Regarding Shelby Western Flyer;
Entered on: Jan 30, 1998 03:10
Entered by: Josh (josh@wingnutrecords.com)

Message:
I've got a nice, original condition Shelby Western Flyer, apparently manufactured by Shelby for the Western Auto Stores chain in 1937. Problem, I need a part for the rear hub (coaster brake), a cone I think. It's a rare hub, and not a new departure. On the coaster brake lever, there is a patent number, and it says "the Musselman hub brake co" and under that, "western flyer" I need the cone (?) part with the fine teeth, or perhaps a parts hub, or working one. I am waiting to find this item first before I begin any restoration, and would appreciate any feedback. Thanks!




Subject: Cornell Clipper Tires on Elgins
Entered on: Jan 30, 1998 16:34
Entered by: NBHAA (oldbicycle@aol.com)

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Cornell Clippers are NOT original tires for Elgins. Allstates were. Cornell Clippers were sold by Pep Boys Stores and had absolutely nothing to do with Sears bicycles. These are merely tires which someone replaced. If anything, any balloon tire would be just as appropriate as Cornells...but certainly they were not original equipment on Elgins.




Subject: Airman Special info
Entered on: Jan 30, 1998 16:52
Entered by: NBHAA (oldbicycle@aol.com)

Message:
"Airman Special" means nothing in itself and does not reveal either the year, the appearance of the bicycle, or the manufacturer. Although Speigels did sell a line of bicycles known as "Airman", others used the name as well. Also, Monark (not Monarch- which was a different company than Monark) only made SOME Airman bicycles. Shelby made some...Huffman made some...Cleveland Welding made some...etc...etc. THe only way to properly identify this bicycle is with a photograph.




Subject: Warrior Bikes
Entered on: Feb 2, 1998 17:20
Entered by: Karl ()

Message:
Heyas,...I'm new at this thing, but has anyone heard of a store brand of bike called 'Warrior'? I bought a 'clunker at the flea market, and the only I.d. features is a Aluminumm badge on the front that says 'Warrior', and it has a art deco looking Indian drawing a bow. Also, what is a Schwinn Tiger 3speed worth? Is it desirable?




Subject: info-colson
Entered on: Feb 4, 1998 21:32
Entered by: larry (lhhollifield@mindspring.com)

Message:
i have a colson mens bike.are these desirable??? how can i tell what year it is ?? any info would be great.thanks in advance,larry




Subject: Rollfast!
Entered on: Feb 6, 1998 17:44
Entered by: Donald (Briese@Northernnet.com)

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Does any one have info. on seriel #s for Rollfasts from 1937-1960`s. Thank You!!




Subject: J.C. Higgins
Entered on: Feb 9, 1998 12:59
Entered by: Juan (juand1@mail.idt.net)

Message:
Iam looking for a 1956 fender lighthead beam. I would like a N.O.S or used no repro. Thanks, "must be a fender type headlight"




Subject: Monarch info.?
Entered on: Feb 11, 1998 01:54
Entered by: Boomer (boomerads@aol.com)

Message:
Howdy-Im looking for someone that is very knowledgeable on Monarch Super Deluxes to ask a few(or a million)questions concerning a project I have going.Please call me collect or email me your phone#.THANKS-Boomer




Subject: Monarch info.?
Entered on: Feb 11, 1998 01:55
Entered by: Boomer (boomerads@aol.com)

Message:
Howdy-Im looking for someone that is very knowledgeable on Monarch Super Deluxes to ask a few(or a million)questions concerning a project I have going.Please call me collect or email me your phone#.THANKS-Boomer(206)783-2850




Subject: Monarch info.?
Entered on: Feb 11, 1998 01:56
Entered by: Boomer (boomerads@aol.com)

Message:
Howdy-Im looking for someone that is very knowledgeable on Monarch Super Deluxes to ask a few(or a million)questions concerning a project I have going.Please call me collect or email me your phone#.THANKS-Boomer(206)783-2850




Subject: RE: Monarch
Entered on: Feb 11, 1998 08:14
Entered by: alwaysride ()

Message:
Send email to oldbicycle@aol.com he knows a lot about Monarchs




Subject: Shelby Flyer
Entered on: Feb 11, 1998 15:28
Entered by: DavidH (dhuelsing@aol.com)

Message:
I've got a Shelby Flyer. They were made by Shelby bicycles in Shelby Ohio. They also made bikes under different badges. The rarest & most desired Shelby is the Airflow.




Subject: RE: Shelby Flyer and "airflow" and desirable Shelby
Entered on: Feb 12, 1998 16:34
Entered by: NBHAA (oldbicycle@aol.com)

Message:
The term "airflow" or (more correctly) Airflo does NOT refer to only one Shelby nor any particular Shelby model or year. This term was used by Shelby to describe their streamlined frame design and NOT a particular model. The term "Airflo" was STILL in use on Shelby bicycles into the 1950s. It has become a collector's misnomer to refer to the 1938-40 deluxe Shelbys as "Airflow"...this is incorrect since this term actually only applied as a model to the 1939 deluxe Western Flyer version which was correctly called, Western Flyer Super Airflow". As for the Shelby models, they are correctly identified as SPEEDLINE AIRFLOs and not Airflow or Airflo. And...there were numerous different models of even the Speedline Airflo series- of which the fluted fender model, with horn and WITH electric tail light is the most rare and desirable. Furthermore, it is debatable which is the "most rare and desirable Shelby" since some might pass up the more common Speedlines for a fully equipped Shelby Lindy (again, of which there were several models)... and which is about as rare and desirable as Shelbys get!




Subject: RE: "Monarch"
Entered on: Feb 12, 1998 16:39
Entered by: NBHAA (oldbicycle@aol.com)

Message:
Yes, we do know about Monarchs...we also know about MONARKS, which is the manufacturer if the question is about the Super Deluxe. There were TWO different companies...MONARCH...and MONARK. These two are, after all these years, still being confused with one another. Neither had any connection with the other.




Subject: Handle bar manufactures
Entered on: Feb 17, 1998 13:13
Entered by: Craig ()

Message:
Cleaning up my old bike I removed the handle grips and stamped in the steel was "Farmington" ?? Has anybody heard of this manufacture? It is a 1940 vintage bike.




Subject: 48? Monark Holiday Mens Model
Entered on: Feb 17, 1998 22:38
Entered by: Shawn ()

Message:
Question.What colors did this model come in?What is the design that apears on the tank and chaingurad?Could you direct me to a place I could get a color picture of one? Thanks, Shawn




Subject: 53 Hiawatha
Entered on: Feb 19, 1998 22:10
Entered by: jd (dawsigns@flash.net)

Message:
Anyone interested is purchasing a Hiawatha boys bike (approx. 1953) in fair to good condition? What kind of price range would this be in? Please e questions: dawsigns@flash.net




Subject: '53 Hiawatha
Entered on: Feb 20, 1998 08:38
Entered by: jj ()

Message:
Provide more details, tire size, features, etc. You could be sit'n on a very valuable bike. Don't let it go too cheap!




Subject: 53 Hiawatha & 53 Rocket
Entered on: Feb 20, 1998 11:58
Entered by: jd (dawsigns@flash.net)

Message:
The 52 or 53 Hiawatha boys bike is a 26" The Rocket, girls bike, is also a 26", I think the Rocket also said some- thing like Silver King (?) on the frame by the handlebars. Need more info or interested you can e me (dawsigns@flash.net) or call at 281-482-5230 (jd) or 281-331-3552 (Darel)




Subject: Winton Bicycle
Entered on: Feb 22, 1998 00:28
Entered by: Charlie ()

Message:
Any info re age and worth also a parts supplier, atank, and headlight. Mfg by Manton Smith Chicago. Ser# 94001. closest picture I could find was a 1952 Columbia 5 Star. Thanks




Subject: Hiawatha
Entered on: Feb 25, 1998 02:27
Entered by: Mike ()

Message:
Information on my bike,year,who made it. On the badge it says GAMBLE`S HIAWATHA and has a train on it. The serial #B43465




Subject: RE: HIAWATHA
Entered on: Feb 27, 1998 14:05
Entered by: Dave ()

Message:
The Hiawatha is made by Shelby. Back then bike mfgs put other company badges on their bikes. I believe it was made about 1943. I have one also. Its red/blue frame, white pinstripe, blue ND rims/hubs, truss forks, double curve bar.




Subject: RE: Hiawatha information
Entered on: Feb 27, 1998 16:25
Entered by: NBHAA (oldbicycle@aol.com)

Message:
Folks need to look back at Menotomy's archived discussions. We have explained this fully on a couple of occasions and the story of Hiawatha continues to get twisted again and again... Again, Shelby did NOT make ALL Hiawathas, nor did Cleveland Welding or any of the the other companies that made Hiawathas. There was no single company tha made Hiawatha bicycles. Furthermore, a single serial number with no visual (photo) is absolutely meaningless and cannot possibly reveal usable information about either Shelby or Hiawatha. There were no production Shelbys OR Hiawathas being made in 1943...they were making other things for World War 2, which was what most bicycle companies were doing in 1943. Also, the name, "Hiawatha" is NOT merely an alternate name of the Shelby Bicycle Company, but is in fact a product line specifically made for a retail store chain. There is valuable information listed in the Menotomy archived discussions and it might be a good idea to go back and inspect some of those old issues they have archived.




Subject: Re: Hiawatha
Entered on: Mar 3, 1998 11:36
Entered by: Dave ()

Message:
Thanks Leon, your knowledge is appreciated. I stand corrected. I do know that my "Gambles Hiawatha' is a Shelby. I have seen a Shelby that was exactly the same and have an ad of the exact bike. Like you said, w/o a pix its hard to specifically identify. Thanks.




Subject: Hiawatha and Shelby...a bit more
Entered on: Mar 4, 1998 13:32
Entered by: NBHAA (Oldbicycle@aol.com)

Message:
Thanks right back and with all due respect to Dave, The notion that Shelby is Hiawatha and Hiawatha is Shelby or that the bicycles were EXACTLY the same is still a mistaken assumption. Many collectors look at ads or photos of Shelbys and see what looks like the same frame or frame and fenders, then conclude that their Hiawatha is EXACTLY the same bicycle. Think of these bicycles perhaps as you might of a Schwinn-Built Ranger and a Schwinn...or Ford Taurus and Mercury Sable...only MORE separated. Usually SOMETHING on the Hiawatha was different...a headlight, a tank, a paint job, a reverse of color schemes, a pinstripe, pedals, a different crank, a different sprocket, a different kickstand, even different tires- and of course the two were sold from different retailers. Automotive journalists coined a term for this phenomenon in cars: they call it "badge engineering"...and the term is perhaps even more appropriate for classic bicycles. However, unlike mere Shelby alternate names like "Flying Cloud" or "Traveler", Hiawatha was a distinct brand name and Shelby's only involvement with it was to build CERTAIN models for certain years under contract. Thus, we cannot in any way accurately say that a Hiawatha is a Shelby, we can only say (as Shelby did) that SOME Hiawathas were "SMB" (Shelby-Made Bicycles)...just as some Mead Rangers were Schwinn-Built bicycles, but certainly NOT Schwinns.




Subject: Old Bikes in general
Entered on: Mar 4, 1998 18:01
Entered by: Dave ()

Message:
Thats really fascinating Leon. I hope you are writing a book on this stuff (and include photos of your collection). I'd buy it. Thanks for the info.




Subject: CLASSIC & VINTAGE CYCLES
Entered on: Mar 5, 1998 01:48
Entered by: Phil ()

Message:
If you need a wierd rare part. or an entire classic bike restored or in its state, Call my friend Casey in Phoenix, Arizona this guy has more vintage goods than anyone I know .and Casey is cool, No B-S , he honest I can't say enough about the Man . CASEY'S CLASSICS PHX, AZ 602-263-5143




Subject: Wards Hawthorne
Entered on: Mar 5, 1998 10:04
Entered by: Ray (Wheelman1) (Wheelman1@msn.com)

Message:
Leon, I am assuming the same holds true for the Wards Hawthorne Duralum bikes. I have a girls model that I cannot yet date but it looks to be in the 30s and very similar in look to a Monark Silver King. Did Monark build these under contract for Wards/Sears? By the way thanks for the education. Ray




Subject: Corvair model bike
Entered on: Mar 6, 1998 22:28
Entered by: Arlyn (unrein4@russellks.net)

Message:
Can anyone tell me who made a Corvair model bike. It is a 26 inch middleweight, chrome fenders, painted tank and carrier, painted fender light, Says "Corvair" on the tank and "Sportster" on the chain guard. The manufacturers label has been peeled off the fork tube. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks Arlyn




Subject: canadian bike
Entered on: Mar 9, 1998 07:48
Entered by: matt (mwoods@jpra.com)

Message:
i recently purchased a ccm (canadian cycle manufacturers)coca-cola promotional bicycle (1955-56) it has a 26" measured rim diameter :i can't find the proper size white wall balloon tire to fit it. help!




Subject: My Western Flyer
Entered on: Mar 9, 1998 10:42
Entered by: Adele (bsa650lght@aol.com)

Message:
I have acquired a old Western Flyer bike, it has a skip tooth sproket. There were no fenders, chain guard or tank on it. I would be interested in finding out more about this bike so I can restore it to its original shape? Please, any info will be greatly appreciated! I also have a Schwinn Skipper. It has a kick back hub, do you have any info on this model and the years of production? thanks so much!




Subject: Jaguar
Entered on: Mar 9, 1998 12:08
Entered by: jim s. ()

Message:
How many years did they make the original Jaguar. I heard it was 2.




Subject: Rhode Island bicycle
Entered on: Mar 9, 1998 12:14
Entered by: Bill (Stillfotog@aol.com)

Message:
Hi, looking for any bicycle manufactured in Rhode Island around the turn of the century. Does anyone know of anything for sale? If not for sale would like to see or photograph for research. Any historical info or paper goods on R.I. bicycles wanted also. Any help on this is really appreciated. Thanks, Bill




Subject: Silver King and Ward's Duralium
Entered on: Mar 9, 1998 20:15
Entered by: NBHAA (oldbicycle@aol.com)

Message:
Ray's question about the relationship of Silver King and Hawthorne and whther they had a similar situation to Shelby and Hiawatha is ture. Except in the case of Monark-Silver King Company, they made ALL of the Ward's Duralium bicycles. Collectors, even top experst and auction houses and books regularly confuse and mix rthe two. The American Bicycle book clearly shows a Ward's Hawthorne Duralium bicycle WITH a Ward's Hawthorne name badege clearly on the bicycle, yet, the book labelled it as merely a Monark Silver King. To make matters worse, the museum which once featured it, did likewise. Then the auction house that auctioned it repeated the error and refused to correct it based on the previous erroneous information which had been distributed. Apparently thge name plate and minor differences from an actual Silver King meant nothing. Look at this bicycle and you will notice the different truss rods that go straigh up, rather than bending rearward as a Silver King would do. Also, notice the nameplate which is black and clearly is a Hawthorne plate, not a Silver King. Of course, most Duralium models also had different tires (Ward's brands) than were used on SIlver Kings. So thus, Silver Kings were Silver Kings, Hawthorne Duraliums were Hawthornes...and never the twain shall meet. The two almost always had SOME specific dirrences and were never truly identical. Monark also built a FEW other Hawthornes, but again these were all different and are properly known as Hawthornes, no matter who made them.




Subject: CCM Bicycles
Entered on: Mar 9, 1998 20:20
Entered by: NBHAA (oldbicycle@aol.com)

Message:
Sorry about the misspellings in the previous post...stuck keyboard. CCM does not stand for "Canadian Cycle Manufacturers" but stands for Canadian Cycle & Motor Company. NBHAA has many of their old catalogs. More recently, you have seen those CCM initials on hockey gear and helmets.




Subject: need help
Entered on: Mar 11, 1998 15:16
Entered by: jim (post a message here)

Message:
What and how many years did they make the original Jaguar and aprox. how many did they make




Subject: Prewar Pacemaker
Entered on: Mar 12, 1998 01:13
Entered by: Rusty (Fenian77@aol.com)

Message:
I have a prewar skiptooth mens straightbar with a "Pacemaker" headbadge. the badge closely resembles a roadmaster badge of the same era. there is a more complete description on the "value" discussion area if you're curious. if anybody has any information, any at all, i'd love to use it to restore this apparently unheard of bike. please email me if possible. Thanks.




Subject: is this a repro?
Entered on: Mar 12, 1998 12:04
Entered by: Patricia ()

Message:
There is a Western Flyer for sale on ebay and I am considering buying it. The seller claims it is original but I know that WF did repro's in this color scheme. It looks real clean, almost too clean. I appreciate repro bikes but I don't care to own one. What do ya'll think. Is it the real Mcoy?




Subject: oh yeah
Entered on: Mar 12, 1998 12:06
Entered by: Patricia ()

Message:
I've asked him for the serial number.




Subject: eBay Western Flyer
Entered on: Mar 12, 1998 13:17
Entered by: Bob Hufford (bhufford@mail.orion.org)

Message:
It has late model reflectors on the pedals, wheels, and stem. I agree that it looks too new.




Subject: Western Flyer repro
Entered on: Mar 13, 1998 07:35
Entered by: Ken (kensmith@freenet.columbus.oh.us)

Message:
That is deffenitly a reproduction offered on eBay. If your interested in one, a local bike shop has one for sale priced at $250. (Campus bike Shop - 614-261-0106) He also has a rarer Red + Black WF w/horn and all the goodies priced at $350. The shop owner is a crotchety old fart so I don't know if he'd be willing to ship. (We're in Columbus, OH)




Subject: Roadmaster X53 All complete, 7 cond.;(need to know value)
Entered on: Mar 14, 1998 07:39
Entered by: Bob Siegel (kbsiegel@juno.com)

Message:
Hi. I have a Roadmaster X53. The bike is complete and in good shape I have looked through the bicycle books and can not find any listed Does anyone have an idea of it's value? Bob Siegel (703)569-5240




Subject: For Sale-$140. Roadmaster Pleasure Liner, tank, rack, truss
Entered on: Mar 14, 1998 07:42
Entered by: Bob Siegel (703)569-5240 VA (kbsiegel@juno.com)

Message:
I have a powder blue Ladies Roadmaster Pleasure Liner for sale $140 plus shipping. Not sure of year. (Tank, Rack, Truss rods) Bob (703)569-5240




Subject: FS- Men's 1940s Schwinn DX Plain Jane Model $120 plus shpg
Entered on: Mar 14, 1998 07:44
Entered by: Bob Siegel (703)569-5240 (kbsiegel@juno.com)

Message:
For Sale Schwinn DX Plain Jane Men's Late 1940s model $120 plus shipping. Bob Siegel (703)569-5240




Subject: 100% Restored, Mens' Monarch Super Deluxe, $950 pls s/h
Entered on: Mar 14, 1998 07:51
Entered by: Bob Siegel (703)569-5240 (kbsiegel@juno.com)

Message:
The Men's Monarch Super Deluxe is green and cream Stripes are perfect. The Super Deluxe pictured in Bicycle Blue Book on page 124. This bike is complete and has all of the goodies. I will send pictures. 950 PLS S/H Bob (703)569-5240




Subject: Western Flyer X53 Value
Entered on: Mar 14, 1998 14:56
Entered by: Bob (kbsiegel@juno.com)

Message:
I am looking for the value of a Western Flyer X53. All complete, good (7) condition. Bob




Subject: Monarch
Entered on: Mar 16, 1998 22:39
Entered by: Larry (mhoff 50074 @aol.com)

Message:
What is the value of my all Aluminum bike , it is in very nice shape




Subject: to ken & bob hufford
Entered on: Mar 18, 1998 22:34
Entered by: patricia ()

Message:
thanks. the reflectors were the first thing to tip me off. the seller told me that the bike was an "attic find". hmmm...




Subject: JC Higgins/Sears/Murry Parts
Entered on: Mar 22, 1998 16:44
Entered by: Wes (kinsler@okstate.edu)

Message:
Looking for Sears/Murry/JC Higgens Parts. All 3 types interchangable. Looking for 26" x 1.75" fenders w/ stays, Large size Murry chainring (see JC Higgins bike in for sale section). Also looking for an early 50's JC Higgins Head Badge. I will also accept any other Sears-Murry-JC Higgins parts for 26"x 1 3/8 bikes. I have a large amount of misc. parts and a 1960's Huffy middle weight with a Sears engine to trade for. Thanks!!!




Subject: Schwinn ballooner value?????? Please assist------------>
Entered on: Mar 22, 1998 21:40
Entered by: Randy Bell (bell@msue.msu.edu)

Message:
I ran across a boy's 26" ballooner today. Since I don't usually buy bike this old, I'm stumped as to its worth. I remember the following: Red and creme paint, painted/striped wheels, tank w/horn button and leaking battery, not a springer front end-rather a chrome truss, torpedo-style headlite on fender, chainguard with the circular logo @ approx the 2 o'clock location, skiptooth/heart-style chainwheel, "Type D" rear sprocket/brake, black rubber grips w/ball ends, Phantom-style rear rack, the 2" round headbadge has a top hat surrounded by a circle and the words "Schwinn All American". This bike is complete, but has some surface rust on the rack and on the seat tube where a padlock must have rubbed for years. It also needs pedals. It rides fine. The seller "thinks" $200. I'm thinking maybe a pre-way DX????? Any ideas on value/price. Like I said earlier, I mostly collect bikes from the 60's, but would like a nice ballooner, especially if the price is right. Email me at bell@msue.msu.edu Thanks a bunch!!




Subject: Randy's Schwinn
Entered on: Mar 23, 1998 08:41
Entered by: kath ()

Message:
Randy, I posted a reply under the 'Bicycle Value' topic.




Subject: re: above ballooner......a done deal!!!!!!
Entered on: Mar 25, 1998 19:11
Entered by: Randy (bell@msue.msu.edu)

Message:
Thanks, Kath (no email) for the info. It is here in my garage. Here are some more details: it IS a straight bar with tank, the tank has the feather pattern....and horn inside, the rack is a 9 hole with a reflector on the back, the fenders mount to tabs on the frame, not the rear axle, the chainguard bolts on (not clamped). The serial is under the cranks and is H57302. It is a nice original bike. I am looking forward to getting it cleaned up! You assistance is appreciated! Randy Bell




Subject: round headbadges on Schwinn bikes
Entered on: Mar 26, 1998 20:55
Entered by: Randy Bell (bell@msue.msu.edu)

Message:
my DX (40'/50's) has an approx. 2" round (not oval) headbadge. Around the top arc it says "Schwinn", around the bottom arc it says, "All American" and in the center is a top hat encircled by a ring. Anyone have or see something similar???? I also have a women's Continental 3 speed of approx. the same vintage with a similar badge that has "Schwinn" on the top arc, "Continental" on the bottom arc with a cross in the middle. Your help is greatly appreciated! Randy Bell




Subject: "DARWIN" brand, rocket-style light
Entered on: Mar 31, 1998 18:01
Entered by: Scott (wed308@aol.com)

Message:
Could someone help me to identify this headlight ? It is for front fender mounting, it is off-white, rocket shaped ( one fin on top & one on each side ) , it has a "clam shell" type design that opens hinged on the front, the lens has a hooded appearance where the top cover overhangs it, The word "DARWIN" stamped across the top near the front. The switch for the light is on the bottom at the rear and looks like a tail hook from a fighter plane ( sort of ). Has any one seen one like this before ? Is it rare or valuable ? Any help would be most appreciated !




Subject: Huffy "Daisy-Daisy" tandem bicycle
Entered on: Apr 1, 1998 20:02
Entered by: Jan (boulian@mindpspring.com)

Message:
My neighbor has come across a Huffy "Daisy-Daisy" tandem bicycle. Does anyone know how we go about finding out how old it is? Also, where we could get tires for it (the big fat ones, with the white sidewalls). Also, the value of it. It is in pretty good shape, with all the original stuff!! (Paint, tires, handlebar covers, etc.) It is red with a white pin stripe, and a "Daisy-Dasiy" decal on the chain guard. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!




Subject: hubs
Entered on: Apr 2, 1998 16:31
Entered by: wayne (surferdude.com)

Message:
im restoring this womens bike,i think its from the 1950s.it has a stwart warnner floation front hub.does any one have info. on age and builder thanks wayne




Subject: RE: Daisy Daisy
Entered on: Apr 3, 1998 08:11
Entered by: kath ()

Message:
How wide are the tires? (it will be written on the tires)




Subject: RE: "DARWIN" brand, rocket-style light
Entered on: Apr 3, 1998 08:25
Entered by: kath ()

Message:
I'm not familiar with that particular brand, but I do know that other brands in good shape go for $75 - $100+




Subject: 1941-42 penco
Entered on: Apr 4, 1998 18:33
Entered by: dirt ()

Message:
I am looking for any info on a 1941-42 PENCO cruiser. It is red and white with a brass nameplate that just says PENCO. The frame seems to be cast in three peices then put togather.Please help.




Subject: 1942 PENCO
Entered on: Apr 4, 1998 18:53
Entered by: DIRT ()

Message:
I have a 1942 PENCO crusier and I would like to know if anyone has any info on it. Any info would really help me. To restore it.




Subject: ummm...does anybody ride or is this about money?
Entered on: Apr 5, 1998 00:30
Entered by: claudia ()

Message:
Gee, I bought a 1946 Hartford from Menotomy which I actually ride. It is amazing to me that a 52 year old bike is such a plush ride. It has a new Persons seat, but there are no rattles or creaks. And the headlight on the fender just needed batteries. I would love to hear more "discussion" about how these bikes are just fabulous to ride. As someone who bought this to replace a stolen MTB, I must thank the thief. He/she opened up a whole new biking experience. No clicking of freewheels and because of the laws of physics (momentum), it is sur- prisingly easy to pedal. Bikes are like Art--buy them for love and your reward will be far more than the dollar value!




Subject: I ride, enjoy, trade, buy, sell
Entered on: Apr 6, 1998 11:17
Entered by: Ray (Wheelman1) (Wheelman1@msn.com)

Message:
Claudia, I too enjoy riding the older bicycles. My most enjoyable part of the hobby is to collect as many different types of bicycles that I can in order to ride them at least once. I buy some fixer uppers, restore them, ride them them sell them to get another one that I have not yet ridden. I have had many bikes, some are real dogs to ride while others are like you state a pleasure. It might be interesting if other readers/riders give there review of classic or antique bikes they have ridden. Here is my contribution, I have a girls 1950's vintage J.C. Higgins Colorflow bike that really looks cool. I am sad to say it rides awful. It seems its turning is off balance and I do not feel steady at all on it. Perhaps because it is a girls bike and I am a 6'3" tall guy, the geometry may not be suited for me. On the other hand I have a 1955 Schwinn Deluxe Hornet that rides like a dream and I could ride it for hours. Hope to hear more reviews. Ray




Subject: re: Huffy
Entered on: Apr 6, 1998 14:10
Entered by: David (dhuelsing@aol.com)

Message:
Try www.huffy.com, there is a really good section on the history of the company, it might help you date it.




Subject: RIDING
Entered on: Apr 6, 1998 14:13
Entered by: David (dhuelsing@aol.com)

Message:
I enjoy riding my Western Flyer X53, it is a real nice riding cruiser. I have never seen a Schwinn cruiser that doesn't ride well. I also really enjoy riding old Ralieghs, especially the 28 inch tires, Brooks saddle, and Sturmey Archer gears, make a nice ride.




Subject: Riding
Entered on: Apr 6, 1998 21:31
Entered by: Kevin (adrsg@net-nerds.com)

Message:
I ride my 2.125 tyred bike. Its a Schwinn. Not original, with an olive drab paint job so that i can ride it around military vehicle events. (Second intrest) Pretty is nice but they were made to ride. Same as my 1941 Dodge Army pickup truck. Ride um!




Subject: Rod-Brake Rides
Entered on: Apr 6, 1998 22:07
Entered by: Bob Hufford (bhufford@mail.orion.org)

Message:
I agree with David that the 28" Raleighs are great riders. My '78 Tourist is my favorite ride for commuting and neighborhood cruising. For just plain fun it is hard to beat -- except possibly by my Swing Bike.




Subject: Vintage Schwinns in Houston Art Car Parade
Entered on: Apr 7, 1998 19:14
Entered by: Joseph (JHALLER393@AOL.COM)

Message:
Thought you guys might be amused by this. I have a '61 Mark IV Jaguar that I bought new. I was so proud of it that I bought an old Schwinn-Henderson Phantom used to ride on my paper route to save the Jaguar. I've entered both in the Art Car parade, which has a class for vehicles over 30 yrs old. Did this mainly to get cheap tickets to the Art Car BAll, which is one of the cooler parties in Houston. Jaguar is in VG condition, but Phantom is rusty and needs an original front fender, paint, etc, so started looking on the web for Phantom parts (with little hope) and found you guys and what appears to be the possibility of a wonderful new hobby. Hell, there's even a site on the rod brake Raleigh I bought new as a daily rider in 1980, and which has now become something of a rarity itself. Anyhow, it's great to know that there are actually others like me out there (Not that I'm a bike expert - I just love old bikes) so I thought I'd say Hi. Apologies for the bandwidth or if I posted in the wrong spot...




Subject: Tires for wooden rims
Entered on: Apr 10, 1998 13:41
Entered by: MIKE (HAAN@LILLY.COM)

Message:
I have and old bike with a wooden front rim and the rear is also wooden, but had a metal shell from bead to bead. I assume it will take a tubular tire of about 27 or 28" diameter. Does anyone offer these tires?




Subject: Monark Silver King
Entered on: Apr 10, 1998 18:33
Entered by: Bill ()

Message:
I have a Monark Silver king ladies 26in wheels complete but in rough cond.Is it worth anything? Anybody want it?




Subject: AAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!! Stolen Cruiser!!
Entered on: Apr 10, 1998 22:34
Entered by: Ken ()

Message:
Got my '54 Huffy out of the shop today after getting new chrome wheels put on (With my Repro Goodyear street WWs) and got to ride it for the first time...and possibly the last time. Some %^#$% stole it from where I work. I'd had the wheels chained, parked it in front of a security camera and we're supposed to have a guard walk the area constantly. The camera quit recording about noon and nobody saw my bike get hauled off. My only hope is whoever took it is dumb enough to leave the easily identifiable tank unpainted. (Not to mention my powder coat.) Anybody else ever have this happen to them?




Subject: FS: 1952 Girls Schwinn Panther
Entered on: Apr 11, 1998 12:41
Entered by: Tom (sackmantb@sprynet.com)

Message:
Original except for repro tires, and front fender. Paint, and plating is in B- condition. I have completely disassembled (including New Departure rear brake hub), throughly cleaned all parts, reassembled, and is ready to ride. Excellent platform for full restoration, or (my choce) ride as is. Mfg on 2/08/52 (Thanks to the nice folks at Memory Lane), online pics available (BMP format). Asking $400




Subject: 1952 Girls Schwinn Panther
Entered on: Apr 12, 1998 17:58
Entered by: Tom Sackman ()

Message:
It's sold




Subject: RE: Huffy "Daisy Daisy" Tandem
Entered on: Apr 14, 1998 20:36
Entered by: KarlG (karl_gerken@Stortek.com)

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I have a Monark "Daisy Daisy" tandem. I am not certain of the age but suspect that it is early to mid 1960's because of the Bendix RB-2 rear hub. Mine has middlweight tires 26" x 1.75". The front part is a cantilever frame and the rear is a step through frame. (I saw a similar one for sale at www.winonaweb.com/antiquebikes/Bikes/s113.html for $500) Mine is red with white pinstriping and a big long red chainguard that has "Daisy Daisy" and some eighth notes on the back of it. Does this sound anything like yours? I paid $125 for mine. It was straight but the paint was very faded. I am having it professionally painted as we "speak" (am paying way more for the paint than the bike will be worth when complete, but it will look cool). Hope that helps. Karl Gerken




Subject: 57 corvette
Entered on: Apr 16, 1998 04:05
Entered by: Michael (masouders@aol.com)

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I have a 57 corvette that is near mint except it is missing shifter and cable. Rear hub is 2 speed coaster brake. Brake says new departure but hub appears to be bendix.Any info on this is appreciated.




Subject: roller
Entered on: Apr 21, 1998 14:55
Entered by: jim s. ()

Message:
Does anyone know where you can purchase a fender rolling machine.




Subject: Jag
Entered on: Apr 21, 1998 14:56
Entered by: jim s. ()

Message:
What would be a decent price for getting a pair of fenders chromed fo a 1953 Jaguar they are the oversized large fenders.




Subject: re. ebay
Entered on: Apr 21, 1998 18:35
Entered by: dan (dfield@nebuladigital.com)

Message:
e bay's probably fine, but if you are within a hundred miles of a bike show /swap meet that is always your best bet, show up on time, bring as much cash as you want to spend, and don't bring you boy friend or girl friend or any body eales who don't need to be there. Irun two shows out of boston,MA and its alway a buyers market. Some of my dealers come down from new hampshire and they bring their wives, the ladies get on the train (sub way rite next to the show) and go shoping all day down town while their guys ride their wizers around the show if your any where nearby on sun june 28 chech it out E me for details or look at swap list on this site Dan...




Subject: Claudia/hartford
Entered on: Apr 21, 1998 18:54
Entered by: dan (dfield@nebuladigital.com)

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Cladia is your hartford a 26" boys frame is it red with an atomic logo on the tank and ascach on one side if so i once owned it i'm so glad it fond a home and is of the market..Dan ...




Subject: My Hartford
Entered on: Apr 22, 1998 14:37
Entered by: Claudia ()

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Dan...no sorry, my Hartford is a creme and blue girls, 1946. no tank, either, kind of plain jane, but I love it and it seems to really like living in California now. It has a Boston plate. Only thing missing is the chainguard, so if anyone knows its whereabout, post the info here.




Subject: Roller
Entered on: Apr 22, 1998 15:11
Entered by: jim s. ()

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Does anyone know how much or even where you can find a fender roller machine any info would really help




Subject: Spaceliner lens
Entered on: Apr 26, 1998 14:40
Entered by: jim (jgbarnard@aol.com)

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Looking for a lens for the haedlight on a 64 sears spaceliner! jim




Subject: identifying 2 balloon tire bikes
Entered on: Apr 29, 1998 12:49
Entered by: Calico ()

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I have 2 balloon tire bikes from the mid- to late '50s and am trying to determine their worth. One is marked "Derby" and the other is marked "Heidemann Works(?) Hanover" or HWH. Both are female, had little use but are now somewhat rusty. Any advice?




Subject: Old Tandem
Entered on: Apr 29, 1998 14:39
Entered by: Leo (leosbike@niia.net)

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I have a customer of mine who has a tandem with the name Rocky Cycle Works on the head badge. Has anyone ever heard of this bike? How about its history? Age? Value? Any information would be appreciated.




Subject: columbia 3 star
Entered on: Apr 29, 1998 16:25
Entered by: Brad (bmxer@aol.com)

Message:
im am looking for front and rear fenders for this bike and the vents that make it look like a gas tank also this bike is in excelant shape and is for sale to the highest bidder or best offer




Subject: More Middleweights
Entered on: May 1, 1998 09:31
Entered by: Menotomy Vintage Bicycles ()

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We've added some more vintage bikes and parts to our web site. Click on 'Vintage Bicycles' or 'Parts' at the top of this page. - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles




Subject: Hiawatha Rookie
Entered on: May 1, 1998 22:53
Entered by: Wally (RAMJET@prodigynet)

Message:
Here's your chance to let it all hang out. I have just started restoring my first bike.Hiawatha-Gambles on the badge I know absolutly nothing about it. Is it possible to get some info as to what I have. I need info of the origonal bike so I know what colors they were availible in. Anything will help HELP! thanks Wally




Subject: proven, "jet flite"
Entered on: May 2, 1998 01:22
Entered by: jim ()

Message:
need info about this bike




Subject: excelsior bike 26" mens
Entered on: May 2, 1998 14:56
Entered by: dan (jphill@dreamscape.com)

Message:
curious about age,value,etc.,of garage sale excelsior i found,looking for parts,seat,pedals,reproduction parts. anybody have any info available? thanx for possible info




Subject: re: excelsior
Entered on: May 4, 1998 15:01
Entered by: David ()

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Excelsior might be related to Schwinn. Schwinn made motocycles undr the excelsion name, they might have made bikes too...Anyone know for sure?




Subject: RE: Excelsior
Entered on: May 7, 1998 08:33
Entered by: PeterW (longtruck@hotmail.com)

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How wide are the tires?




Subject: Royal Flyer
Entered on: May 11, 1998 00:38
Entered by: Augie (muffinman@banet.net)

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I have recently come across a Royal Flyer Balloon tire bike There is a # stamped underneath the crank 159N. Is this the date of the bike and is it worth anything? It is a 26 inch bike and in pretty good shape. Thanks for any input...




Subject: RE: Royal Flyer
Entered on: May 12, 1998 08:38
Entered by: Marco ()

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Is it a men's or women's model? Are the tires 26 x 2.125? Does it have a tank, lights, rack, etc?




Subject: HARLEY DAVIDSON BICYCLE #1
Entered on: May 14, 1998 07:41
Entered by: Pat (patf7255@aol.com)

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Would like to know value of 1st HD bike sold last year the limited edition?? would like to sell mine in box as yet or could have assembled-- Thanks




Subject: RE: Harley
Entered on: May 15, 1998 08:09
Entered by: kath ()

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Are you saying it is serial number "1", ie the lowest serial number possible? That will increase it's value a lot. Also, keep it in the box - don't assemble it!




Subject: F/S Original Red Schwinn Typhoon near mint
Entered on: May 15, 1998 14:42
Entered by: Ray (Wheelman) (Wheelman@nac.net)

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In near mint condition and currently on e-bay for all to see. The original red paint on this beauty almost glows it is so deep and rich. Look at item 13891346 in ebay.com search and think how your kid would look riding an affordable clean true classic. Ray (Wheelman)




Subject: what are these things worth
Entered on: May 17, 1998 19:52
Entered by: Nathaniel (NSA144@AOL.com)

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I recently found two old bikes in my grandmothers barn and was wondering about there value.One reads CHALENGER and under that B.F. Goodrich on the head badge it is red with balloon tires, fenders, an rear rack, and a frame that looks like it could have a tank in.The other reads WESTERN FLYER and uder and above it it reads Western Auto inc. it is brown red and white as fenders baloon tires and a light that has a light bulb that I can't find a replacement for. Please e-mail me with some info about these bikes. thanks -Nathaniel




Subject: Unknown Frame
Entered on: May 18, 1998 23:05
Entered by: Kevin (adrsg@net-nerds.com)

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Picked up a frame a couple weeks ago and I know bicycles, let alone frames, are next to imposible to identify without pictures but I tought someone might like to speculate. It appears to be a Schwinn 60's era cantalever frame knock off. The rear dropouts are very much Schwinn like as is the kickstand (chromed). All the welds are butt welded (not great welds) excepts the dropouts which apear to be swedged and welded. Another difference from the Schwinn is the location of the aft chainguard mount. It is about 1.5" long and welded to the seat stay rather than the chain stay. The head badge is gone but apears to have been rivited. Mounting holes are about where you'd expect a Schwinn badge to be. Again It looks like a Schwinn knock off maybe ten or twenty years old. Any thoughts as to what it might be? I'm goona through some spare wheels on it and ride it around so it doesn't really matter. Thanks.




Subject: Cleveland Welding Roadmaster Age?
Entered on: May 19, 1998 13:31
Entered by: KarlG (Karl_Gerken@Stortek.com)

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I purchased a women's Roadmaster bike last weekend. I am wondering about the age of the bike. Under the bottom bracket, there are two rows of numbers the top row is C12 the bottom row is D78826 52C (the last "C" has a small "W" inside of it. The head badge is red, white, and black sort of checkered with a brass background. It says Road Master (Road above Master). The seat tube has a decal that says "Master Weld Fame" across the top, has a graphic of a man holding a frame in the middle, and says "the Cleveland Welding Co." on the bottom. The bike has a skip tooth chain. The rims are painted to match the bike. The rear hub is painted a silver/grey and has "Bendix Elmira, NY 36-13" stamped on the shell. The rear dropouts are pre-war like. They are slotted to the rear and have adjustment screws. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Karl Gerken




Subject: RE: Unknown frame
Entered on: May 22, 1998 08:21
Entered by: Matt (Mattfeeney@hotmail.com)

Message:
The kickstand, dropouts and headbadge holes make it sound like a Ross frame.




Subject: RE: Cleveland Welding Roadmaster Age?
Entered on: May 22, 1998 08:24
Entered by: Matt (Matt)

Message:
Skip-tooth would make me think it is a pre-war (before World War II) bike, but I think Cleveland Welding bikes were one of the few manufacturers to continue using skip-tooth after the war. At the 'newest', I'd say 1948. At the oldest, I'd say 1935.




Subject: NEW DEPARTURE "TWIN STREAK" 2 SPEED SHIFTER
Entered on: May 23, 1998 16:30
Entered by: Michael (masouders@aol.com)

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I am looking for a ND "twin streak" 2 speed handle bar shifter. Will pay top dollar for complete good condition shifter.




Subject: Town & Country Triple Tandem
Entered on: May 26, 1998 21:36
Entered by: Matthew (bikenut@worldnet.att.net)

Message:
Anyone out there know how many of these were made? I've heard all kind of stories so I don't need any more guesses/speculation. Anyone who was a dealer /or who knew one back in the late 1950's may know. I would appreciate any first-hand(or close) insight into the who/why/when of these very rare models. Regards, Matthew




Subject: 1959 Royal Flyer
Entered on: May 28, 1998 22:39
Entered by: Augie (muffinman@banet.net)

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Does anyone know where I can find a skip tooth chain and chain guard for this bike? I would really like to take it for a ride this summer. Thanks so much...




Subject: Murray Meteor Line
Entered on: May 29, 1998 20:22
Entered by: Gene (gnichols@guardian.com)

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I have a fairly clean Murray Meteor line, Girls bike. 24x2.125 tires, dark blue frame with light blue and white trim. Delta light on the front fender, serial number 29726. Anyone know what year and/or value? Thanks!




Subject:
Entered on: May 30, 1998 23:19
Entered by: wayne j (wjackson@trytel.com)

Message:
I have just purchased my first vintage bicycle and would realy like some information about the bike. It is a sunshine model made in bramton ontario it is a womans bicycle. Any info is appreciated Thanks




Subject: Need more information on JC Penny Dual Swinger
Entered on: May 31, 1998 09:41
Entered by: Ron (RWHALL@UFL.EDU)

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I have just acquired a JC Penny "Dual Swinger" tandom bicycle. I would like to get an idea of how old it is and if it is worth anything. It is in great condition (except a few crome pieces) and still has the Firestone Towne and Country tires and original tubes. Please contact me if you know more.




Subject: Old Colson-Should this bike be saved?
Entered on: Jun 1, 1998 11:38
Entered by: Tom (tf@pipeline.com)

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While looking for old British road bikes at a used stuff store, I found an old blue Colson ballon tire bike, with "Colson Elyria Ohio" headbadge and "faded but looks original" light blue paint. It looks similar to the Colson at http://boulder.earthnet.net/~keithm/Colson.htm, but the rear stays are made of a single curved piece of tubing. I don't have a need for this bike, and already have too many projects. But this thing will be in the dumpster if it doesn't sell soon. Should this bike be saved? Thanks




Subject: Colson
Entered on: Jun 2, 1998 09:08
Entered by: kath ()

Message:
Holy sh!t. Don't dump it! Even the most average Colson in poor shape is worth good money. And if it has the internal front suspension (inside the head tube), it is worth $400- $500 even if it is rusted.




Subject: The Colson Revisited
Entered on: Jun 2, 1998 10:26
Entered by: Tom F. (tf@pipeline.com)

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Thanks, Kath. Before I saw your reply, I revisted the bike at the junk shop, and looked at details a little harder. It has the same general appearance as the Colson on the website I cited earlier, but not as elegant. The chainguard, for instance, only has one stamped in ridge, not several, and the sprocket does't have the swoopy design. The headbadge is a big circle, with the initial "C" of Colson taking up the left hand side of the perimeter of the badge, which is cream with red letters, in fair condition. I did not know to look for a front suspension, on the otherhand did not see anything else unusual so it probably does not have it. Of course, the sly owner of the junk shop knows I am interested since I stopped by twice. Although he has a rack full of abused Murrays and the like, now "he's been thinking about fixing it up for his wife". Sure - he is just positioning himself for the bargaining to come. He won't quote a price, but wants an offer. If a Colson in poor condition is worth "good money", what are we talking about? $50? $100? My wife will kill me if I bring another dumpy looking treasure home, so I cannot keep this bike. I'm willing to buy the bike and pass it on to someone who would appreciate it. But when you consider finding a buyer, shipping, etc, I know it will be a hassle and I don't want to loose money on this. Could you give me a little more specific price guidance? Thanks, Tom F.




Subject: Removal of house painted bike
Entered on: Jun 2, 1998 14:52
Entered by: Jim s. (scianojim@www.hotmail.com)

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How do I remove a house painted bike paint so I can at least match the original paint. It is a Schwinn Admiral and does anyone know what type of paint is it . Is it enamel of baked on or laquer. Any info would help. Please e-mail.




Subject: Trade Ballon Tire Parts
Entered on: Jun 2, 1998 15:12
Entered by: Andrea (dlxjag@webtv.net)

Message:
Looking to move a few whole bikes, frames and lights for the following items trades. All parts are of good quility and in most cases are nos are original. items are not junk ****My Items for trade*** Repro Krate fenders in bags S-2 26" rims S-7 20" Stingray built wheels Replated New Departure Hubs Built S-2 wheels w/ rechrmed hubs. EA Labs pre-war horn, MIB. NOS Schwinn Diamond black pedals. MIB **1948 Repainted two tone; blue and cream J.C. Higgins Tank, frame, chainguard. Pro work. Has old casted large head badge with great paint. No dents, no joke.** Repop Hornet Cruiser. Straight bar powdercoat black frame, fenders, chainguard, w/ S-2's and hard Phantom grips, GT-springer(the best springer around), Correct straight rear fender, repro front. All powder coated with chrome accents, NOS mudflap, feather chaingaurd. Jewled reflectors. 1952 complete DX, with tank. Correct parts, great rider. 1962-64 rechromed Jaguar/Corvette chianguards, excellent, no pits. 1939 Cross bar reenforcer for Hawthorne. 1951 Torrengton bars. 1961 High flange schwinn hubs. 1960 Middleweight frame w/ chainguard/ fair black paint. 1957 Deluxe Hornet frame, faded red paint w/ feather chainguard. 1958 Schwinn approved rear hub, black letters on brake arm. 1953 Bendix Skip tooth rear hub. 1960 Corvette painterd S-7 built wheels, very nice. 1958 Circa Enwall rear lights. MIB 20" truss rods 26" re-plated truss rods I am open to the fallowing parts; Complete Middleweights Pre-war DX frames Motorbike frames Crash bars Early 30's-50's Stems Headbadges Struted pre-war Schwinn forks




Subject: RE: Removal of house painted bike
Entered on: Jun 3, 1998 09:17
Entered by: Marco ()

Message:
You can use "Strip-eze" or some other paint remover gel. You can find it in any hardware or department store in their paint section. Also, check out the "Restoration Tips - Paint" topic here.




Subject: '57 Jag Mk II value?
Entered on: Jun 3, 1998 18:53
Entered by: Charlie (charlie@tuna.net)

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Can anyone tell me the approximate value of my '57 Jaguar Mark II? Right now it's a fun rider, but I'm not up for a total restoration. Most stuff is original or correct, and I have decals for it, but it's rusty and some of the chrome is pitted to the point of needing to be redone. I could sell it to a friend for cheap and get to visit it on occasion, or sell it to the restorer I don't know who would make it beautiful, but put it on a shelf. Any thoughts, on price or who would be a more deserving guardian.




Subject: Colson Serial Number ?
Entered on: Jun 5, 1998 11:07
Entered by: Tom (tf@pipeline.com)

Message:
The guy in the junk shop is convinced the Colson is a $700 bike. What a starting point for negotiations! No front suspension, but I did notice that the cutouts on the sprocket are in a heart shape, very cute. The number on the bottom bracket appears to be "11 1976" , although the "11" is hard to read, and may be just two vertical lines, sort of like a foundry mark, though they are stamped in on the same line as the "1976". I presume this is not a build date. (It looks '50s or '40s to my uneducated eye.) Would someone please help me get an idea of the year, or anything else relevant from these numbers? Thanks, Tom F.




Subject: schwinn question
Entered on: Jun 8, 1998 06:34
Entered by: gerald (geraldw722@aol.com)

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schwinn 26 in. girl's bike, blue w/chrome fenders, "hollywood" model. is this bike worth $50? (very good cond.) Also have similar bike, same color, "skybolt" model. Is this Schwinn?