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Subject: why bmx died in the mid 80's to late 80's
Entered on: May 14, 1999 02:59
Entered by: rich ()

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bmx crashed and burned in the mid 80's because of FREESTYLE !!! THINK ABOUT IT ..........




Subject: RE: freestyle
Entered on: May 14, 1999 03:09
Entered by: sbender ()

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If you want to blame it for killing it, then you'll have to give it credit for bringing it back also.




Subject: BMX vs. Freestyle
Entered on: May 14, 1999 09:21
Entered by: Paul ()

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I think there is a lot of truth in Bender's post about freestyle not only causing a decline in BMX but also bringing it back. In the early 90's Hoffman was about the only bright spot in 20" bikes. His contests started getting play on ESPN and MTV, and obviously that has all exploded, which has helped BMX. But you have to realize that one word sums up all of this: TRENDS. 20" bikes are trendy again, as they were in the early 80's. Then alot of us went to college and bought into the trend of the time: Mountain Bikes. But anyway, there is now a new crop of kids who think BMX is fresh. And that is why companies like 800-COLLECT and everyone else are using BMX to promote their non-BMX product. Pretty soon another trend will come along and BMX will decline again. But I am hopeful that BMX will at the very least get going on a rather predictable trend schedule like skateboards have developed. Do you agree?




Subject: FMF Gold Bars!
Entered on: May 14, 1999 10:34
Entered by: scoooper (skipton51@aol)

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I am truly ashamed of myself, I have been retrospectively short-sighted. As Randy "The Prime-minister" pointed out, FMF made 9" tall bars in 77. FMF also made two other sizes: 7" and 4"? This strictly from memory, but that seems correct. FMF was so exciting to me as a 12 year old--Scot Breithaupt, Stu Thomsen, Jeff Utterback...my first BMX heroes. Someone mentioned something about an FMF retro jersey last year, and I was wondering what those were all about. I have half-heartedly searched for one since that time, but with no luck. Are they nylon mesh? I'm sure some of you are starting to think I have a nylon mesh obsession, after all the hulabaloo I raised about the Roost Apparel and some of my previous posts, but it is purely a "complete-soul sentiment" item. I have the Bell RT helmet, bubble visor and green Jofa to round out the experience. And the Vans Style 95s, too. Thanks for filling me in on the whereabouts of some of our founding fathers. Sorry to hear about Chuck Robinson. What about Ernie Alexander from the NBA?




Subject: WHO'S RADDER?
Entered on: May 14, 1999 11:24
Entered by: scraper ()

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I intentionally omitted input in my previous post so that I could ramble on at length on this one. First of all, I must try to defend "Stupid BMX" magazine, as I was employed by said publication for almost two years. First of all, Super BMX evolved from Minicycle/BMX Action, the first nationally distributed BMX periodical. Super BMX was published by Challenge Publications, a seventies' "skin rag" house from the heart of America's Porn land, the San Fernando Valley. The "Advertising Director" was (and still is, for Moutain Biking, or whatever it is) one perm-topped man named David House. Yes, Ron House is his son (why else do you think they would have such an un-skilled test rider). Dave had "connections" and was solely responsible for the Hollywood infilteration (i.e. Tina Yothers). Editor of Super BMX for all but the last few years, was "Spicy" Mike Collins, a hopelessly nice guy who knew less about operating a camera than he did about bike motorcross. Mike was merely a puppet at the hands of a group of merciless puppeteers. His voice was muted by Houses' smoke-bellowing demands, as Dave sold the ads. Former BMX Action editor Steve "Guy'B" Giberson took the helm toward the end, eventually hiring me as editor for both Super and Freestyle magazines, which I am proud to say where not too damn bad for those last couple of years. Spicy Mike ended up buying a hamburger restaurant in Beaverton, Oregon from one Roger Berg--Mastermind of the UniSeat. Ron House was a really nice guy and actually became a fairly good racer later on. I think he ended up joining the army or something. Super BMX was laid to rest in October of 1988, when ad sales failed to generate enough income to make it profitable for Challenge Publications, Inc. I must add, however, that the support of GT BMX kept Super afloat for a fairly long time. Which brings me to the subject of BMX's "death". First of all, anyone that blames freestyle is lame. Freestyle was for people who weren't into racing, not into doing sprints to develop a faster first straight, not into some overzealous parent telling them to clear the track for the parade lap. Freestyle evolved from the free-spirited minds of guys like Bob Haro and Jeff Watson. If anything, freestyle helped to keep BMX alive by generating interest in BMX bikes all around. The first real freestyle I saw was a Haro Trick Team show at Bud's BMX in Elkhart, Indiana in 1981. It was Bob Haro and Ron Wilton and it was awesome. It inspired my friends and I to learn some freestyle tricks, which ultimately made us better racers. Imported bikes only served to make BMX more affordable for beginning enthusiasts, therefore making BMX easier to become involved in. So we can't blame Taiwanese bikes... Personally, I think BMX died because it refused to progress for so long and for this I blame the involment of adults. Skateboarding provides a perfect parallel: Adults owned all the companies and eventually stifled the activity into submission. A few brave, older skateboarders saw that they could start their own companies and do it their way, which would be from the perspective of a youthful skateboarder. Skateboarding blows up again. I use the skateboarding example because it preceeds the almost exact same formula used by modern BMX pioneers like Chris Moeller of S&M, Rick Moliterno of Standard and Matt Hoffman, who has single-handedly done more for the revival of BMX than anyone by bringing it to the mass media. I agree that ESPN takes away from the soul of BMX, that MTV exploits BMX for profit, that Moutain Dew commercials induce nausea, but the bottom line is that any kid in America can see BMX on TV at any given time, and this is good for BMX in general. For every ten little kids that buy a Haro Blammo or a Huffy Enigma, there is one kid that will stick with BMX and make it his life's obsession. When I was 12, I used to make my Mom buy a TV guide every week so I could see if the after-school special "Loser Takes All" was going to air, because Bicycle Motocross Action did an article about the production of it. Another reason BMX is popular again, and I know this for a fact from racing again and from sources like this site: Guys who raced as kids are now old enough to have kids that race, therefore doubling the involvement and creating a multi-generational BMX scene, which is a beautiful thing.




Subject: What he said
Entered on: May 14, 1999 11:49
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
Wow....I came online to add my thoughts about the demise and rekindling of BMX, and then read Towne's post...and I have absolutely nothing to add. Those were my thoughts as well, albeit spoken much more eloquently than I could have said it. As for the retro FMF jersey...I think I saw one at the Atlanta national last weekend. I'm sorry to say skip that it was in fact cotton and not mesh however.




Subject: the "liability" of the late 80's
Entered on: May 14, 1999 12:00
Entered by: KO'D (kevin.odonnell@zdg.com)

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the only thing I would add to Scott's gnashing's is the entire lawsuit scenario ... the huge burden of liability insurance probably closed more tracks during the late 1980's than a general lack of interest. Without tracks, it's kind of tough for kids to get jacked about racing BMX. With new laws on the books limiting liability for things like diving boards, skate parks, bmx tracks and even horse back riding ranches ... all of the above are making a strong comeback. It just took some friggin' common sense for all of us to figure out that a broken arm shouldn't be the way to make the family fortune. >>> Enter "Generation Next", and the comeback kids (Since most are older than 30, I use the term kid loosely). I've been telling Hallin at the ABA it's time to do something cool for the old guys ... the fastest growing segment of bmx'ers is the 28+ classes. Skip is right, the second generation has quite a lot to do with that. KO'D




Subject: Anyone know what happened to Roger Berg?
Entered on: May 14, 1999 12:02
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail)

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Skip got me wondering about Roger Berg of Uni fame. Anyone know what he is up to now? He was definitely an innovator in the world of bmx and beyond. In addition to creating the incredibly light and innovative Uni seat and other products, Roger was an automotive designer with GM for many years and created the concept for the square headlights that changed automotive styling so radically in the 70's. The burger restaurant that Skip talked in the post above was based around a machine that Roger invented to cook the burgers vertically over a grill. Roger was also another bootstrapper that ran his operation from a house. It would be interesting to talk to him and find out if he had any other innovations back in the old days that never made it to production.




Subject:
Entered on: May 14, 1999 14:32
Entered by: Bill ()

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Subject: UNI innovations
Entered on: May 14, 1999 15:40
Entered by: sbender ()

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I remember seeing a picture of a frame called a Uni Crossfire in about 85-86. It looked like a modern day Ace Hole Shot, but was made of Graphite.I don't know if they ever made production, but would imagine somebody, somewhere has one.I'd be willing to shell out for it.




Subject: Roger Berg
Entered on: May 14, 1999 16:20
Entered by: Ben ()

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Roger Bergs resturant was 'The CIe Cream Saloon" and he invented "The Verti-Burger". Roger did invent rectanglur headlights and a pretty cool BMX track next to his restuarant. He was also able to get Bob Osborn to come cover a race and draw in Team Patterson to a few events. I beleive a friend even still has a pair of Rogers Graphite Unit bars.




Subject: Uni Crossfire
Entered on: May 14, 1999 16:21
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

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Bender...I think I have a magazine with a picture of that frame in it...how much would you shell out for that? :-) And, what would you take in trade for that ESP frame you've got?




Subject: DARRELL
Entered on: May 14, 1999 17:07
Entered by: SCOTCHTAPE (SKIPOTINOAD)

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I know some of you got that e-mail pic from Ben Joy of Darrell Young and that obscure 80s actress from the pages of Super BMX. As comical as it is, I can't help but drool over DY's ride: Araya 7b rims, Campy hubs and that gnarly motorcycle brake lever. Darrell rules always forever.




Subject: BMX vs. Freestyle and the 20 inch recession
Entered on: May 15, 1999 00:01
Entered by: Oliver Schoolberg (ol_School@hotmail.com)

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What killed BMX/Freestyle before? Though not a primary reason I feel our sport suffered under the econmic policy of Ronald Raygun. I hate to piss off any Ditto heads but the nation suffered under his and Raygun-lite (Bush) terms. The economy has been thriving and along with it our sports. I read an article somewhere written but Plywood Hood Brett Downs about how things died. One day I will hit him up for a copy of it. But it was called Experience vs. Image. Basically it discussed how BMX/Freestyle went from being something you did, something you experience. Compared to being overly image conscious. It was also kinda of a warning to todays riders. I have alway thought we were a younger half sibling to skateboarding and a bastard son of motocross. I was reading in Thrasher about there recession. It said it was all caused by "the flop". You know, the skater haircut. It wen tfrom being an activity to skating being a look, etc.... I may see things differently from most of you racing guys here. I raced in 1980 and been a part of freestyle since 1981. I think it was interesting that in the last generation that freestyle was like the little brother in the shadows, but this time it seems that freestyle has been drinking milk and over shadows racing now. But if one thrives so will the other. It is a very symbiotic relationship.




Subject: stuff
Entered on: May 15, 1999 00:04
Entered by: DAN ()

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Hey, about that FMF jersey.I have one in my hot hands right now and sorry Skipster it is 100% cotton. On the up side it is the absolute coolest looking thing in the world, as far as FMF stuff goes!! They only cost twenty bucks so go to the local motorcycle shop and have them order you one out of the FMF catalog. Now if I can find someone to re-anodize my FMF frame I'll really be set. As for my thoughts on why BMX nearly died it can all be summed up to trends. Did bikes get boring, did freestyle get lame, did we all get cars....maybe to all that stuff. The fact of the matter is nothing last forever. Skateboards are the perfect example of the ebb and flow that an activity goes through. Rome didn't last forever and neither did BMX. We win though because BMX got put on life support and now is back in full force. Just don't be suprised when it fades again, skateboarding was in its third phase in the early eighties we're only on number two. The only trend that last forever is Harley-Davidson sales......I hope anyway. I've still got a lot of bikes to pay for!DAN




Subject: RACE INC. PARTS & LITERATURE WANTED
Entered on: May 15, 1999 16:33
Entered by: Jim (vwracer@spiritone.com)

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I'm looking for ANYTHING Race Inc. related.I'm restoring a VERY early race inc Says #114 on the botom frame area.Also has the riders name "Brian Andrew Doyer" In case anyone has heard of him.I would VERY much like some factory info on the bikes such as Sales Brochures,Catalogs Flyers etc...Any info you may have feel free to E-Mail me.I want this bike to be as origonal as possible,I'm told the early Race inc's were avail in Gold ONLY (YUCK) I wanted to do mine in Red with ALL red Alloy parts,Here's a list of parts I need... Red Race inc Bars Red Race inc Seatpost Red Race inc. forks Red EARLY Pro neck Red Araya rims Red 3-Piece cranks Snake Belly tires(Good used is fine) Basically anything RED from the late 70's early 80's! Here's a list of parts I have to Sell/trade... DK "Mini" neck Takagi cranks 1.8 rims with suzie hubs Specialized BMXtreme Tires 20x1.8 GT handlebars




Subject: Stickers
Entered on: May 15, 1999 17:18
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

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Update: The Mongoose stickers are briefly on hold waiting for a second bid. Watch for an update, but the net is I didn't feel like spending $650 for screens! Hopefully a more reasonable bid will be next. I have a some stcikers for sale or trade. NOS Andy patterson JMC set, Redline Square back set (on hold), Blue DG Set (I sent DG sets to all who ordered). I also have a couple of White Redline fork stickers, early 80's GT Head tube, Torker head tube (I think as it's a strange shape), an couple of Old Haro Headtube (I think, Hutch Head tube and Fork stickers. I need Mongoose stickers, Motomag Stickers, 7/8" steel seat posts, Steel galvanized seat post clamps or Mongoose grips.




Subject: Need Space
Entered on: May 15, 1999 17:51
Entered by: Greg (tangeforx@aol.com)

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Gotta make room...FOR SALE: Chrome Redline MX2 Frame (fork avail. as well),White GT Frame (fork avail.), Black Chrome Predator Qualifier complete bike (all orig.)




Subject: More on Earl
Entered on: May 15, 1999 21:33
Entered by: Pat (pquinnbmx@jump.net)

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A few people e-mailed me about what I saw after I drove 1000+ miles to go to Earl's so I thought I'd fill you in. First of all, Earl was really cool and he wants to sell anyone stuff thru the mail. If you go there or call him , his hours are 3:30 to 6:30 pm { I showed up at 11:00 am and had to kill time by hitting other shops in Omaha-found a few things in Papillion, NE. } Earl had a Hutch prostar which he had sold for $1200 big guys. Since I had quit racing in 1983, I had no idea what a "prostar" was , but I knew I would not pay $1200 for it or ANY old school bike! There is not a BMX bike on this planet, manufactured before 1985, NOS parts or not, worth $1200! PERIOD!If Pam Anderson and Tracey Lords both came with the bike,and you 24K gold plated it, it still would not be worth $1200! Watch the prices on eBay and see how low people pay for stuff. Anyway it is gone and so is some JMC Andy Patterson model which supposedly went for eight bills. { Who the heck is paying these prices??}So all that's left is: DX pedals for $125 a set. A cro-mo race inc kit NOS for $450 in the box. White vector frames at $350 from around 1984 {frame only} A black powerlite frame only for $350 { he wants $350 for about any frame } a green with white CW plain old frame 1985 or so $350 frame only. A black proline from around 1984-85 $350 frame only . A white GT from the transitional period when they started making mach ones $350 frame only. And a ton of GT and Hutch freestyle stuff from the mid-1980's which I don't collect so I did not really check it out.Call him if you like mid-1980's stuff.




Subject: Earl ?
Entered on: May 15, 1999 21:57
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

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I would be very interseted in some of the things Earl has but at those prices! Well the guy who I thought wanted my CW hasent emailed back, and its been over 2 weeks. What I really need is a CW sticker set, so if anybody can get one please let me know. I also need to figure out which model I have so if you remember them well please email me. I havent been able to get a hold of my friend who had everthing yet, lets just say my lil bro owes me some cash and I dont expect to see him for a long time.




Subject: Earl
Entered on: May 15, 1999 22:23
Entered by: DAN ()

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Just for the record I would pay $1200 for a bike if Tracey Lords and Pam Anderson came with it. Since they don't there is no way that any of these prices are even close to being what this stuff is worth. Do not pay that kind of money for these bikes, if you feel you need to spend thousands on a bike please refer to the Krate/ Stingray page. Speculators and gougers need to be weeded out if this hobby is to remain enjoyable and affordable. Don't believe me....try buying an Orange Krate on ebay.DAN




Subject: More stuff available for trade/sell
Entered on: May 15, 1999 22:40
Entered by: darren (dcbmx1@aol.com)

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I was fortunate enough to get a new panda pro am frame (nickle) with stickers along with a nos boss expert (from mid 80s) frame. So this means I will have a used chrome stickerless panda pro am frame available. Other items available include a mostly stock complete redline 600a bike, chrome schwinn sting competition frame (has original sticker and head tube badge), and a 1994 boss frame bad boy xl (new) non-cantis and threaded............




Subject: skid-lid decor
Entered on: May 15, 1999 22:47
Entered by: Todd (kbritton@remc7.k12.mi.us)

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Anyone out there have a nos Haro visor from the 83/84 era? (Not the bubble visor). Had one back then, figured it'd be just the right old-school symbol for my racing revival of the late 90's. Will buy or trade. Am still looking for a '85 era Schwinn Predator Black Shadow frame, and a Mike Miranda (preferably pink) f&f.




Subject: prices
Entered on: May 15, 1999 23:03
Entered by: Pat (pquinnbmx@jump.net)

Message:
My philosophy on pricing BMX stuff: Just a few short years ago { around 1988 } old BMX stuff was worth less than zero or " negative money " if you don't believe it ask the suppliers who were stuck with the stuff when BMX died. They threw it in dumpsters. They literally paid someone to haul it off. Now , ten years later, some of the stuff is getting out of negative worth and getting to be worth zero. Other stuff has surpased zero and is worth less than wholesale. Still other stuff is worth maybe retail {at 1982 prices} and very rarely is something worth more now than it was in 1982. It simply hasn't appreciated as a collectable. But it is fun finding it and collecting it at reasonable prices!




Subject:
Entered on: May 16, 1999 01:20
Entered by: sbender ()

Message:
For Sale one 20K gold plated FMF complete with Carmen Electra, and Tyra Banks. Not a scratch, silicone like new asking $1150




Subject: STuff
Entered on: May 16, 1999 12:01
Entered by: ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
First of all, I got tired of traveling and quit my job like any responsible father of two would do. So the ben.joy@infocus.com is dead after next week. Please note the new address above. I actually am going to work for Sharp to think up new laptops, CE devices and other mobile business products. Too bad bike companies don't have think tanks like high tech! Now the bike related part of the message, my friends and I have been scratching our heads wondering where all the stuff the local shops sold went. I know that not all frame broke and were tossed. So last week I'm driving with my wife through a less than up scale part of Portland, on my way to digging through a local non profit bike shop that supplies bikes to kids who can't afford them. Anyway as we drive I see a blue anodized peice of aluminum hanging out of the top a of an old Fred Sanford looking truck. I said Honey that looks like a blue FMF. After she concluded I was retarted and stated how could I remember that when I forget to get milk on the way home from work, I circled the block and to my suprise it was a blue Cycle pro Foiler (PK style top tube)it a pile of scrap metal that was going to the "yard". After that siting I afraid most treasures have been throw out...I'm sure there are many Suzukis sitting with this cycle pro today. BTW - The rear triangle was pushed together to make room for the swing set that was in the truck as well....




Subject:
Entered on: May 16, 1999 12:22
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

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I also I have 2 somewhat rare or starnge stcikers that I will sell or trade: 1 Greg Hill NORA Cup GHP stciker from 1983/4, one Bottema Fork sticker, 1 GT headtube circa 1982, Haro Head tube 1982ish, Tuff Wheel Space tape sticker. BTW - Priority goes to the people out there who have been very generous in helping me with my projects. You know who you are. Dan Goins, do you live on South Seph? If so, I have your address and disregard the call.




Subject: E.K.
Entered on: May 16, 1999 13:17
Entered by: Todd (kbritton@remc7.k12.mi.us)

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Did anyone see the two hour special on E! last night about Evel Knievel? I got most of it on tape (missed the first few minutes). Very interesting. Sunday night on TLC (The Learning Channel, not some lame hip-hop group) at 10pm eastern is an hour long special on Evel Knievel (repeated at 1am I think). Thought a few of you might like to know.




Subject: bikes in the scrap heap
Entered on: May 16, 1999 13:25
Entered by: Pat (pquinnbmx@jump.net)

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I was reading Ben's posting about bikes going to scrap heap. I drive every day as a courier to San Antonio TX and I see these big stake trucks, meant for cattle, litterally heaping with bikes-bound for Mexico. They are coming from the north of me { who knows-maybe Dallas? } and heading south. I see multiple trucks and hundreds of bikes. Usually they are just Huffy's. { thank you }I guess that it's tough to get a bike in Mexico. I've seen a posting on here from California describing the same thing. We have got to get to these bikes before they go bye-bye. One way is to advertise in your local paper but that's kind of high$$$ { usually $40-$60 per week } but I've had success that way saying " wanted, old BMX bikes,parts,magazines. You can also check the scrap heap or you local landfill- they usually have a bike section and sometimes there are gems in there. Also pawn shops, junk shops, your local BMX track, or just driving neighborhoods. Ben did you get the Cycle Pro foiler from Lamont Sanford or was it too far toast??




Subject: Freestyle Bike
Entered on: May 16, 1999 16:38
Entered by: Tom (bizkitlll@aol.com)

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I *NEED* a BMX freestyle bike in good condition. looking for: axle pags, rear and front, all parts included and price under 200 thanks bizkitlll@aol.com




Subject: Freestyle Bike
Entered on: May 16, 1999 16:40
Entered by: Tom (bizkitlll@aol.com)

Message:
axle pegs* my bad




Subject: freestyle bike
Entered on: May 17, 1999 02:18
Entered by: eddie fiola (imwashedup.com)

Message:
hey tom i got a freestyle bike that i think you would love! it's a team murry "freestyle certified" 100% steel only 650.00 $




Subject: freestyle bike
Entered on: May 17, 1999 02:18
Entered by: eddie fiola (imwashedup.com)

Message:
hey tom i got a freestyle bike that i think you would love! it's a team murry "freestyle certified" 100% steel only 650.00 $




Subject: freestyle bike
Entered on: May 17, 1999 02:18
Entered by: eddie fiola (imwashedup.com)

Message:
hey tom i got a freestyle bike that i think you would love! it's a team murry "freestyle certified" 100% steel only 650.00 $




Subject: "stickie situation"
Entered on: May 17, 1999 08:38
Entered by: Todd (kbritton@remc7.k12.mi.us)

Message:
Am looking for a few frame stickers: Schwinn Sting Comp. downtube, and Hutch (chrome/black/stars etc.) downtube stickers. Would take Sting stickers if the comps. are n/a. Thanks!




Subject: pegs
Entered on: May 17, 1999 18:53
Entered by: adam ()

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My Spelling realy sucks so if I make any mistakes I'm sorry I have just got some pegs for my bike and I am wondering how to put them on. Do you haye to take or your wheel bolts or can you just screw them onto the bolts?




Subject: July BMX Plus!
Entered on: May 17, 1999 22:41
Entered by: Jason L (Racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
I was in the Grocery store tonight, and as my wife did the shopping I stood around the magazine rack like usual. I picked up the July issue of BMX Plus! and low and behold there it was (or rather is). The Top Ten Frames article that we were talking about earlier here. They devoted a whole page to it. It is realistically done in my opinion. Some of the prices they have in there for the frames might be a little high for what people are going to pay for them...and GJS not making the top ten I think was a joke, but hey, who knows how they came up with the list anyway, and it's all up for the critics (us) to decide what frames we think should be in. Should make for an interesting discussion piece...so have at it guys! Oh, and props to Darren Chan and Dave Connonetz for getting their names and addresses in the mag as collectors.




Subject: project update
Entered on: May 18, 1999 00:27
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

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I am almost done with my bookend Nickel plated Motomag/Mongoose bikes. And I thank all who traded/sent/sold me items. The real kick happened tonight as I returned with many of the items freshly bead blasted. A set of old MM2's with fresh surface and a clear coat look like new. When I got them they had many layers of old red paint (I tried to polish them until my hands started bleeding a week later. Bars and stem from another were coated in rust, look new after blasting and repainting. So I have two freshly polished frames and all these new looking parts sitting on my work bench and it looked like a shop from 1977. Heck if Star Wars was playing it would again seem just like 1977....




Subject: BMX PLUS!
Entered on: May 18, 1999 01:31
Entered by: darren (dcbmx1@aol.com)

Message:
Thanks to Scott Bender for forwarding some pads for my alloy quadangle. As for the BMX PLUS magazine - Dave and I had no input on the top ten and the prices that correspond. As a matter of fact, the Champion frames pictured are the later ones from the 80s. The first generation ones were much nicer - nickle plated/machined tubing and the motorcycle like rear end. Some person called me up today and asked about the value of a Diamond Back Silver Streak, likely from the magazine. I told the kid that values are based on what someone will pay, and that was a popular bike, yet more common than the ten listed, so don't expect much. SNAP had a nice article on Stu Thomsen, which Bicycles Today had a little flashback on the 80s and a little story on Greg Hill. These were better reading material.




Subject: reference check
Entered on: May 18, 1999 02:27
Entered by: sbender ()

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Has anyone on this site, ever dealt with a guy named Philip Rase. I can't determine if he's legit, or a smack talker.




Subject: DY
Entered on: May 18, 1999 13:31
Entered by: Ben ()

Message:
Rory - Thanks for posting the DY picture on the OldSchoolBMX Site. Darrell still is soooo smooth. At the Gold Cup Qauifier he cranked wheelies out of the gate adn held it over the first jump. He still rides like butta...




Subject: Price of happiness
Entered on: May 18, 1999 17:36
Entered by: scott (skipton51@aol.com)

Message:
Finding nothing in my searches. Utterback attack on a single GJS sticker from Shinglehead. Cyc Stormer was a $99 complete bike in '77. Kuwahara is high on my list, does anyone have one for me? Young rules, I understand he is doing clinics now? Over-sized BB's are a pain to deal with, anyone with eccentric cups for the RRS (originally for a schwinn tandem)? Until my last post, I thought my pursuit of this vintage bike motocross thing was valid, but apparently not.




Subject: Webco
Entered on: May 18, 1999 20:23
Entered by: Ric ()

Message:
Guys, I dont recall ever seeing many post's about Webco. If I ever dip into the world of collecting I'd love to find my 1st dream bike a mid 70's Webco w/ those awsome Webco mags. Ever see them anymore? And what might one do to procure a gem such as this? Thanks




Subject: Webco
Entered on: May 18, 1999 21:38
Entered by: Scott Bender (sbender@btigate.com)

Message:
Ric, what are you willing to pay for a Webco? I know where a couple are.




Subject: GT Mach 1
Entered on: May 18, 1999 23:49
Entered by: Casey Moore (build con @Magabyte)

Message:
If you think any bike is better than a GT Mach 1, BRING IT ON! Iv raced and I let the losers ride it and they wernt losers any more. Its garnted to be the best bike youv ever riden,and I ain't no sales men eather.Ijust know what Im talking about!




Subject: GT Mach 1
Entered on: May 18, 1999 23:50
Entered by: Casey Moore (build con @Magabyte)

Message:
If you think any bike is better than a GT Mach 1, BRING IT ON! Iv raced and I let the losers ride it and they wernt losers any more. Its garnted to be the best bike youv ever riden,and I ain't no sales men eather.Ijust know what Im talking about!




Subject: casey moore
Entered on: May 19, 1999 00:43
Entered by: obi-wan ()

Message:
casey, i dont think you got a fricken clue as to what your talking about!!!




Subject: Webco
Entered on: May 19, 1999 09:06
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx)

Message:
Whats up with Webco today? Apparently the name is being used to make bikes for the European BMX market. Does the current incarnation have any ties to the old Webco? Anyone seen the new bikes?




Subject: WEBCO
Entered on: May 19, 1999 09:13
Entered by: Todd (kbritton@remc7.k12.mi.us)

Message:
Hey Paul, As far as I know, Webco is mfgd. by FabWeld in Florida and is owned by Gerritt Does (and his son Nico (?)). I have no idea if they have/had anything to do with the Webco of the 70's.




Subject: Dave C - in all the mags?
Entered on: May 19, 1999 14:02
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx)

Message:
So Dave got a mention in BMX Plus. Now, I just picked up the new SNAP and there is a picture of a guy inspecting Flight Cranks at SBS named Dave. Could this be our guy, oldbmxdc?




Subject: Redline
Entered on: May 19, 1999 14:18
Entered by: MIKE (michaelleonard@bmxnonstop.zzn.com)

Message:
Anyone interested in a trade? I have a 1980 chrome Schwinn Sting frame to get rid of. I don't have the fork, but i can get it if necessary.The frame is missing the babge on the front, but it's in decent shape. I want any redline parts, stems, bars, f/f,snap pads, flite cranks, maxy cross cranks, or redline sticker sets. If you have any trade ideas, i'm open to suggestions. Send me an e-mail.ride on!




Subject: Anybody have these parts in silver?
Entered on: May 19, 1999 18:25
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

Message:
Looking for 1 NOS araya 7B in silver to finish a bike. Would also be interested in a pair of 7Cs or 7Xs. Also need old school grips in white or black. Basically any 70's-early 80's parts in silver... Brakes, clamps, etc. Thanks, Geoff




Subject: Paul-Guy in SNAP
Entered on: May 19, 1999 22:27
Entered by: Dave (oldbmxdc@aol.com)

Message:
Yes, Paul, It is I - oldbmxdc who has his hands on the flight arms. If someone told me when I was 15 that I would be in charge of Redline Flight Cranks, I would think they were crazy. That whole shoot with Snap took over 3 hrs. It was fun for me though, I got to see how much is involved in mag. photos. I guess this was my lucky month for magazines. As, far as the Plus article, I wish and thought it would be a little more in depth. I think where the sport started deserves at least 10 pages. Stu article in Snap was very nice to see. I think most of you would agree that a huge "where are they now" article would be very exciting to see. I'd like to know about a lot of old bmxer's and freestyler's are. Opinions????? Maybe we could get someone to do it.




Subject: Race Inc.
Entered on: May 20, 1999 03:22
Entered by: sbender (sbender@btigate.com)

Message:
Received my Race Inc. decals from Pat Q today. I was surprised these babies look better then the originals.I don't know how many more he has , but I'd advise everyone to get a set while they could just to have. How about having some JMC one's made Pat I'll take a couple sets. I can't believe the feedback I received on the Webco comments, so I'll just post what I know here and now. I'm getting two NOS frame/fork sets in about two weeks. I will be willing to trade them both.Also, it would be wise for some of you new people to leave your E mail address. So your deals don't get jumped all over like this Webco one did. Just being helpful not sadistic.




Subject: Zap Pads
Entered on: May 20, 1999 08:48
Entered by: Todd (kbritton@remc7.k12.mi.us)

Message:
I have some nos nylon Zap Lightning bolt pads (stem and x-bar only) in red, yellow, black or blue for sale/trade. Also have a nos Torker vinyl v-bar pad in blue, and a DG single clamp nos stem pad in blue/ylw if anyone's interested. Am still looking for ODI signature grips, old Haro #plates & visors, and a Predator Black Shadow f&f, and generally any cool stuff from 82-86. Thanks.




Subject: Larry Ruiz VS Larry Wilcox at Hell Track
Entered on: May 20, 1999 11:43
Entered by: scotchtape (skipton51@aol)

Message:
Does anyone have a Flying Rhino frame? Remember that Johar of California TM ad for the Rad koozy can coolers? I asked Scot Breithaupt if that was beer in the photo, but he said it was the Uncola. I've never seen 7Up with so much foam! Also, I need a 170mm Dura Ace crank arm, left only, blue preferred. Or will trade 170mm Dura Ace crank arm, right only, blue, for a set of of Redline 400 crank arms (the kind that use a standard cotterless crank spindle).




Subject: Money where my mouth is
Entered on: May 20, 1999 11:51
Entered by: scotttowne (skipton51)

Message:
This is completely unrelated to BMX, but for anyone who wants to check out my "skateboarding" skills, go here http://frontpage.net-link.net/skatezoo/movies/fingerblunt.gif




Subject: Titan Mini
Entered on: May 20, 1999 11:53
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

Message:
Anyone interested in a Titan mini race bike? My friend has it for sale. If you are interested, please let me know and we'll talk about the details and price. I just want the cranks and pedals. It is in very nice condition. Sun rims,Revcore hubs, uni seat, Very light bike.




Subject: Cranksforyoumoneyforme
Entered on: May 20, 1999 12:55
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
In my never ending quest to gather enough cash for my new racing frame, I am putting up for sale a set of like new (installed but never ridden) Chrome Torker 3 piece cranks. BB included of course. $75 Email the above address. Thanks. Jason L P.S. Towne, that actually made me laugh out loud.




Subject: Where are they now? Check out NOT FREESTYLIN' Ezine
Entered on: May 20, 1999 17:01
Entered by: Oliver Schoolberg ()

Message:
If you look in the articles section of my ezine, NOT FREESTYLIN' Ezine ( http://notfreestylin.tsx.org) you will find the BMX-Files section. I started it a while back and have gotten some interesting responses on it. With a name like NOT FREESTYLIN', you knew there had to be a "where are they now?" section somewhere. It is all freestylers at the time.




Subject: garland rd dallas tx?
Entered on: May 20, 1999 18:32
Entered by: rich w (flatmanrw@mailcity.com)

Message:
i did a deal with a guy from dallas tx , cant find my notes. i need him to con tact me. thanx!!!




Subject: Scratch Post ...
Entered on: May 20, 1999 23:20
Entered by: Kevin O' (kevin.odonnell@zdg.com)

Message:
My shiney new 1982 Scorpions "Blackout" CD spinning round and round in my PC's cd drive ... and towne's little fingers doing a great fakie stall out of the tiny half-pipe have me remembering back to the days of family dogs and cats dressed up like tiny, furry mx'ers ... only to have their image snapped and sent to the mighty BMXA. Towne, with "Can't Live Without You" cranked to the max ... and if I squint really hard, I would swear that's Jaws Mouse on that board ... or was it Fred Blood ?!?!? Also ... received a totally set of RAD DG decals from Ben Joy today. I'm not over my fit of jealousy, Ben, but I'm working on it ... the check is in the mail !!! ;-)




Subject: Stickers
Entered on: May 21, 1999 00:52
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
The DG stickers are on a hard drive at a sign shop. If anyone needs them, I can direct you there way. I found two sets of Yellow Mongoose grips today and a ton of MX2 Grap ons. Also misc Mongoose vinyl pads. Any trades on the yellow grips for black, blue or red would be great. A special find was NOS Uni plates and 2 Batman Number plates. The neighbor kids are so jealous. KO - Theres a 50/50 chance the new job could suck. Honestly, I'd rather be the Redline flight crank guy....




Subject: hi
Entered on: May 21, 1999 11:07
Entered by: rooter-tooter (hi)

Message:
hi all you rooter-tooters out there!!!




Subject: Walla Walla
Entered on: May 21, 1999 11:32
Entered by: scooter rooter (skipton51@aol)

Message:
I wonder how much Greg Hill got paid to ride those crappy Grab On grips? For that matter, I wonder how much Stu, Eric Rupe, Perry Kramer, Richie Avalanche Anderson, Frank Post and all of those dudes were paid by Chuck Raudman to ride Skyway Tuff Wheels? It certainly inspired dorks like me to want Graphite Tuff Wheels more than just about anything else in the world in 1981. Actually, I have a 1994 Dodge van I would trade for a set in 1999...




Subject: Knock yourselves out
Entered on: May 21, 1999 11:49
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx@hotmail.com)

Message:
Found this posted...thought you all might be interested. Good luck... Bicycle collection, antique, Schwinn- AMC- GT- Lowrider- Cruisers- Stingrays, BMX full suspension. Call if interested. Ask for Scott. +(Atlanta) 404-892-3864 days or 404-846-8182 eves Location: Atlanta, GA




Subject: Freestyle
Entered on: May 21, 1999 20:20
Entered by: DAN (bmxca43@hotmail.com)

Message:
Attention freestyle junkies.... I have an n.o.s GT Pro Performer in chrome for trade or sale. Frame and fork full stickers e-mail with trade stuff or cash offers. Thanks to DAVE (oldbmx) for hooking me up with another one of my most wanteds!!DAN




Subject: Liquidating some stuff
Entered on: May 21, 1999 22:31
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
Howdy do. Here's some stuff I'm looking to get rid of...see if any of it appeals to you. The wife says sell some to buy some. Used set of Skyway Tuff II's in White. Good condition, could use some restoring. Black Chrome GT Frame and fork. Fair to good condition, All stickers intact and in good shape. (not even sure when they made a black chrome bike...but here it is). Used Powerlite threaded fork. As good as new Torker 3 piece cranks. Almost new Black S&M Gay Bars (were clamped in a stem, but grips or brake lever were never on them), Skyway T/A Frame and fork (was originally white, I stripped and painted it white again...looks factory, but not powdercoated..new stickers). White Vector bars (The kind with the funky bend forward, not the straight up triangle kind....these are almost new) Thinking about getting rid of my Graphite Tuffs as well so I'll entertain offers on those. None of this stuff will hit eBay in the near future...I've had it with how rediculous Things have gotten there. That's all for now...may post more stuff at a later date.




Subject: hutch cranks
Entered on: May 22, 1999 00:29
Entered by: joey (rebbluck@clsp.uswest.net)

Message:
anyone have a pair of hutch 3 peice cranks] theyd be willing to sell?




Subject: Star Wars Episode 1
Entered on: May 22, 1999 04:30
Entered by: sbender ()

Message:
So what did everyone think of the movie?




Subject: Old school BMX bike for sale
Entered on: May 22, 1999 09:21
Entered by: krash90 ()

Message:
Last day for cool looking BMX bike I have up for auction on ebay. www.ebay.com and then enter old school BMX bike.




Subject: Bender rocks!
Entered on: May 22, 1999 14:08
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

Message:
Just received some stuff from Scott Bender and he was so cool and generous. Has been a total blast to deal with! Scott, I owe you two!




Subject: info
Entered on: May 22, 1999 16:42
Entered by: kluck ()

Message:
were all hutch trickstars made in the usa




Subject: Thought I would try this....
Entered on: May 22, 1999 18:51
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

Message:
I don't know if anyone else here is into these bikes but I thought I would try this. I have a Feb '70 Lemon Peeler Schwinn Krate bike that I might be interested in trading for some high quality old school bmx stuff. This is a complete bike minus seat and sissy bar. It needs total restoration. (I just don't have the time) It is completely original with the exception of the tires. Still has reflectors. But again it needs a total restoration. All numbers match and could be a killer bike. Let me know if you are interested. Thanks, Geoff




Subject: T/A....Graphites gone
Entered on: May 22, 1999 19:58
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
Looks like the T/A frame and the Graphite Tuff Wheels are gone for sure. At this point all the other stuff in my previous list is still available. Thanks for the interest guys!




Subject: Torker frame
Entered on: May 22, 1999 22:34
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
On my mail route today I found an old torker frame. The kid had spray painted the whole bike, tires and all gold. I couldnt do anything but laugh my butt off then cry when I got home. I mean he literally spray painted the whole bike GOLD!




Subject: tm2
Entered on: May 22, 1999 23:21
Entered by: kluck ()

Message:
did they make a trickmaster 2 and if so is the quality good?




Subject: Parts gone...
Entered on: May 22, 1999 23:39
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
Okay...the Skyway T/A, Graphite Tuffs, and Vector Bars have been spoken for. The other stuff is still on the blocks including the Like new Torker Cranks, White Tuffs II's, Gay Bars, powerlite threaded fork.




Subject: Kuwahara E.T.
Entered on: May 23, 1999 15:39
Entered by: Greg (tangeforx@aol.com)

Message:
O.K. which one of you guys was seriously huntin" for a Kuwahara E.T.? Cause I found a brand new one(have not seen it though). The shop owner wants a "REAL" offer. I don't remember how much they were new, but if you are serious enough I'll bring him your offer.




Subject: Kuwa ET
Entered on: May 23, 1999 20:49
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
If I remember right the ET bike was about $190 new, anybody else remember? Anyway ask the owner what the minimum is he'll take for it and I may take it.




Subject: 60 Minutes
Entered on: May 23, 1999 21:20
Entered by: Danno ()

Message:
Anybody catch 60 min tomight. Andy Rooney was showing his home video recordings and 1 was of a barge with a whole bunch of bikes piled up on it. Granted mosy of the stuff was probably junk but who knows what could have been in that pile. I know every friend I had was into bmx big time so there is a lot of missing bikes out there.




Subject: Motomag 2 question
Entered on: May 24, 1999 00:59
Entered by: ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
Which brake system did Motomag 2's come with? I received one set with a Bendix 76 set up. But, my other set came with the hubs pulled apart. When I got the set back from the shop (BTW - The shop was loving these new looking wheels. Heads haven't turned like this since the swing bike was introduced)they had rebuilt them with a Shimano set up. Did they make MM2's in both configurations? Maybe to accomodate freewheel set up's? Any insight is apprecaited.




Subject: ET Kuwa
Entered on: May 24, 1999 05:04
Entered by: Ian (arpolley@ar.com.au)

Message:
According to Oct 82' of BMXA, the top of the range ET with double gussett and alloy UKAI rims went for US$260. I ended up finding one the other day for US$90, a bit scratched in places, but otherwise still with all the original parts. Apparently there was a cheaper version with a single gusett with three different sized holes and steel rims which BMXA stated went for US$225. Anyone got any ET pads or no. plate they care to part with?




Subject: ET was me
Entered on: May 24, 1999 08:50
Entered by: Todd (kbritton@remc7.k12.mi.us)

Message:
Greg, it was me who was looking for the ET bike! I have an nos Skyway TA frame (chrome) that I'd part with for it and I have a 96 nos Auburn cr20s too. E mail me. I need something to wrap my Cal. lite ET v-bar pad around!!!




Subject: Trickstar questions
Entered on: May 24, 1999 11:44
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx@hotmail.com)

Message:
I'm not a Hutch devotee, but I will take a shot at answering Cluck's questions. This is all based on my memory, so correct me if I'm wrong: Trickstars were all made in the US. Trickstar2's were probably made in Taiwan, but the quality appeared pretty good. It had a double top tube and a nice pearlescent paint job. It was a lot better bike than the Taiwanese made Windstar (or was that Windstyler?). All I know about the Trickstar2 comes from an ad in American Freestyler magazine from 86 or 87. I could look up the magazine and scan the ad for anyone who wants it. e-mail me if that is the case. Paul




Subject: Hutch
Entered on: May 24, 1999 12:36
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
A local shop here in Portland has a couple of those off shore Hutch 9Wind Styler or something) NOS sitting around. If anyone is interested, I can turn you on to the bikes.




Subject: deals
Entered on: May 24, 1999 14:41
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

Message:
Just wanted to give everyone some feedback on dealing with Rich Wieber. Got the pads from him, and I'm VERY happy. Thanks Rich. Unfortunately, some of the magazines I sent him arrived kinda soggy. I'm glad we left it open, so he could decide how much to send me once he saw what he was getting. Thanls again, and sorry for the soggy mess. Next time I'll use magazine savers.




Subject: ebay
Entered on: May 24, 1999 15:33
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
Looking through the completed auctions at ebay, did someone here score the cycle pro for $36? Pretty good deal there, who bought the CW phaze 1 for $152?




Subject: CW stickers
Entered on: May 24, 1999 15:40
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
Havent had any luck scoring CW stickers or figuring out which model I have. I have a friend in Nashville who is a graphic designer who may be able to help me make some so if you can please find a decent picture of a set please let me know. And if you remember CW well please get a hold of me, thanks. Danno




Subject: pegs.......
Entered on: May 24, 1999 15:58
Entered by: andy (www.andex133@hotmail.com)

Message:
hello, i have a great bike, i got it for my birthday on may 21, any how, i need aome really nice low cost pegs and i cant seem to find ANY IN MY AREA lawrencevill Pa. and coulsd you find me any?!?




Subject: Landar bars
Entered on: May 24, 1999 17:47
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

Message:
Guys. I've had this pair of bars for quite a while, but keep forgetting to ask about them. They're Landar bars, and made of oval tubing (not just the crossbar). Any hear of them before?




Subject: Too many postings
Entered on: May 24, 1999 17:58
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

Message:
2 quickies. First off, I heard that Ben in WI just had a baby. Congrats. Hope everyone's doing well. Also, just stumbled across a fact that'll effect us all. Menotomy is selling their business. They may wind up closing the website or selling it along with the business. Or they may decide to kep the site running. Regardless, we may be losing our precious forum. Not to pressure anyone, but does anyone with a website have interest in a contingency plan?




Subject: i dont have a bmx bike. what should i get.
Entered on: May 24, 1999 18:13
Entered by: jordan ()

Message:
i dont have a bmx bike , what should i get




Subject: bmx
Entered on: May 24, 1999 18:16
Entered by: dane ()

Message:
what kind of bike should i get.




Subject: bmx
Entered on: May 24, 1999 18:17
Entered by: dane ()

Message:
what kind of bike should i get.




Subject: bmx
Entered on: May 24, 1999 18:18
Entered by: dane ()

Message:
what kind of bike should i get.




Subject: bmx
Entered on: May 24, 1999 18:19
Entered by: dane ()

Message:
what kind of bike should i get.




Subject: Baby
Entered on: May 24, 1999 21:23
Entered by: BenWI ()

Message:
I would like to let all of my friends and acquaintances from the forum know that I am now a father! I now have a baby girl to introduce to BMX! It certainly changes your perspective, but I have no plans of giving up my bmx hunting. The imminent end of the pregnacy actually motivated me to finish my Powerlite 26" cruiser and my Thruster tripower. I would also like to thank Scott R. for the Torker stem and Jeff Mattox for the mini SE jersey(for the kid).




Subject: Ben-Motomag II
Entered on: May 24, 1999 22:05
Entered by: Dave (oldbmxdc@aol.com)

Message:
Ben, the orig c/b kit for those wheels was the Bendix 76. I don't know how they made a Shimano work in there. The clutch seat is in a different spot. If you need to find the orig. c/b parts try any old Schwinn dealer. All old Schwinn's came with Bendix. Hope this helps. P.S. Pat Quinn, thanks for info on Papio's shop-Bought a Kastan old f & f and the Chrome GHP f & f. The owner has really been around-Knows Lynn Kastan and Gary Turner from back in the days. Thanks again.




Subject: MKS PEDALS
Entered on: May 25, 1999 11:58
Entered by: rich (flatmanrw@mailcity.com)

Message:
i am looking for a pair of MKS GRAPHITE PEDALS for a one piece crank!!!




Subject: Maxy Cross
Entered on: May 25, 1999 13:37
Entered by: Mike (michaelleonard@bmxnonstop.zzn.com)

Message:
I'm still looking for maxy cross 3pc cranks in any color. Can anyone help me? I have access to a lot of NOS stuff, so let me know if anyone has a trade idea. Drop me an e-mail if interested. mike




Subject: Old School Tires
Entered on: May 25, 1999 16:37
Entered by: Scott (smorrow@gbutler.com)

Message:
Looking for some old school 20" BMX tires for a restoration project. Any help or ideas for a substitute would be appreciated. Thanks




Subject: GHP
Entered on: May 25, 1999 17:01
Entered by: Corey (g26dv@unb.ca)

Message:
I am looking for a GHP frame and fork, preferably the Pro II or Pro xl model. If anyone has one, or knows someone who does, please contact me. Thanks.




Subject: 7b's
Entered on: May 25, 1999 18:12
Entered by: shinglehead (winndle@webtv.net)

Message:
I finally found a shop with leftover parts in stock. A few parts of interest; fluted bars and seat posts, torker frame pads( as well as other pads) ashtabula stems, and cranks, Redline proline bars in red and blue, and no name bars a well v and box, suntour, mks, and kkt pedals, 81-82 GT f/f and bars, and other stuff, but the guy was too lazy to find out what else, stuff buried in boxes all over the place. I will keep you all posted! Oh by the way, he also has NOS 7B's in stock, how many sets I dont know, but 1 less set for sure, heh-heh.......................




Subject: CW Racing decal help
Entered on: May 25, 1999 20:15
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
Thanks a lot to the people who responded to my questions. My friend in Nashville says it will be no problem making a sticker set for me real cheap as long as I can provide a good picture or likewise with dimensions. He works in a graphic arts dept and has everything needed to make them at home, says he has made a good deal of money making custom low rider stickers for clubs and nascar stickers for fans. He origanaly paid 3000 for the setup and was worried about it. Well what I believe I have is a CW 'Z' frame (not phaze 1) so if you have any articles, pictures or likewise please let me know. Thanks, Danno




Subject: two cool things at the track
Entered on: May 25, 1999 23:24
Entered by: bill (wds@bitstream.net)

Message:
A couple of cool things tonite at the first race at Buck Hill bmx in MN. One, I've finally won my first race!! I was a freestyler growing up & still mess around, so it's not like I've been racing long. Two, at the track, one of the younger novice kids (7/8 or so) was racing an old (is there any other kind?) Race Inc. F&F. It was in decent shape as well, no big scratches, dings, or rewelds. Just a few scratches arund the dropouts, and... what looked to be all original stickers. It was pretty cool to see.




Subject: Bill...
Entered on: May 25, 1999 23:46
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
Hey Bill...Congrats on the win! So what did you offer the kid for the Race Inc.? :-)




Subject: Old 26inch BMX Crusiers
Entered on: May 26, 1999 08:29
Entered by: Dave (davidk@grafik.com)

Message:
I am searching for any old 26 inch BMX cruisers. Does anyone have any they want to sell? I am interested in almost any brand (mongoose, GT, Redline etc) as long as it is a 26 inch, BMX style. I had a really cool 80's King Sting, but it was stolen.Any help finding a new BMX crusier would be appreciated. Please e-mail me, Thanks Dave




Subject: wish list
Entered on: May 26, 1999 08:46
Entered by: Todd (kbritton@remc7.k12.mi.us)

Message:
I am looking for bmx stuff from the 82-88 era...Hutch Trickstar and Miranda f&f (not mint, but sound), Schwinn Predator Black Shadow f&f, 26" cruiser (or at least an old classic 24"), and ODI signature grips Leary/Slavik/Miranda/Osborn/Blood/McCoy. To trade I have the following frames: 1998 nos Powerlite P-61 XXL ball burnished, new or used Skyway TA's in chrome, an old Performer f&f (solid, but ugly re-paint) from late 80's (?), and some asstd. pads (vinyl and nylon), the 96 Auburn, and some Tommy Brackens grips.




Subject: Anybody know about these
Entered on: May 26, 1999 10:34
Entered by: dudemanguy (dudemanguy@hotmail.com)

Message:
Does anybody here remember LRV race bikes? Or how about MCS? Are either of these cool bikes? Found both of these in my area and thinking of buying.




Subject: MCS & Cycle Pro
Entered on: May 26, 1999 17:18
Entered by: Danno ()

Message:
I dont remember a LRV, but MCS was okay, check out the welds, frame material and condition. Are the compononts any good? Give whatever YOU think its worth to yourself. I noticed the Cycle Pro on ebay didnt have any stickers. Mine which I bought new never had any either. Were all cycle pro's like this, I cant recall seeing any with actual factory stickers on them.




Subject:
Entered on: May 26, 1999 17:41
Entered by: sbender (sbender@btigate.com)

Message:
Would anyone be interested in some Lester Magnesium mags circa 1979 mint in the box? I've located 4 sets 2- C/B, 2 -F/W.I don't know anything about them let me know.




Subject: LRV
Entered on: May 26, 1999 21:25
Entered by: Corey (g26dv@unb.ca)

Message:
I don't remember LRV, but didn't there used to be a company called LRP. I think it stood for Loncaravich Racing Products and existed sometime between Loncaravich's Diamond Back and CW days. Perhaps my memory is cloudy however and it was named LRV instead? Also, I'm looking for Hutch parts such as pro sized bars, seatpost, seatclamp, hubs, cranks, and pedals. If anyone has any of these parts and would be willing to part with them please let me know.




Subject: said bike shop
Entered on: May 26, 1999 23:45
Entered by: shinglehead ()

Message:
I have had a handfull of requests for parts from the bike shop I spoke of earlier. Since the shop is only semi-local, It will take some time to get back and see if the guy is willing to let me go through more stuff. As soon as I have more specific info I will post it here.




Subject: LRV
Entered on: May 27, 1999 00:04
Entered by: benwi ()

Message:
I believe(don't feel like checking now) that LRV made a suspension frame in the mid 70's and possibly some hardtails.If the price is right, this seems to be a decent find. Mcs has been around for a long time, so it's hard to say what you have.




Subject: LRP
Entered on: May 27, 1999 07:35
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
Yeah Pete Loncarovich did start LRP after Diamond Back. I dont remember a frame though. He had some top quality components, if you can find and LRP products in good condition I would definetly grab em. There may not be much out there though because if I remember right his products were very expensive. Danno




Subject: LRV
Entered on: May 27, 1999 11:19
Entered by: RandyS (groupd@softcom.net)

Message:
LRV was a later incarnation of of Matthews, one of the first couple of frame companies along with Webco and Littlejohn-Murphy. LRV dates probably 77-79, their team was managed by one Chuck Robinson.




Subject:
Entered on: May 27, 1999 16:51
Entered by: Russ (stolen_nyc@hotmail.com)

Message:
Got some stuff to get rid of—NOS black plated front Tuff II, NOS white front Tuff II, front ACS RL Edge wheel w/ sealed hub (judging from the lack of interest in the one on e-bay, I'm not too hopeful), original S&M Pitchfork (1", thin tubes, double-thick dropouts, no brake hole), green ACS freestyle stem (OLD!), gold Shimano SX pedals, no spindles. Slim pickings, I know, but let me know. Looking for plated rear black Tuff II (FW), and NOS set of white Mike Buff Z Rims (or complete wheels w/ coaster). No 48s, please. I'm also looking for American-made Hutch parts (chrome, black or white), but who isn't?




Subject: Seeking "Old School" Parts for a Re-build
Entered on: May 27, 1999 17:59
Entered by: Meredith (Rebelyowl@aol.com)

Message:
Hey ya'll, I am building a new version of my old bike. I've got the f/f (patterson pro). I'm looking for a set of GT Pro bars in excellent condition. Actually, I don't care if the chrome or paint is bad, as long as the welds are still good. Anyone who can help, please email me directly. HEY: Also looking for a Hadley sealed bottom bracket. Another hard to find object. For one piece cranks. Thanks, Meredith




Subject: Robinson
Entered on: May 27, 1999 18:32
Entered by: Jimmy (jimmygeske@hotmail.com)

Message:
I am curious if anyone knows what year Robinson started and also I would like to find an old Robinson 24".




Subject: Robinson
Entered on: May 27, 1999 18:51
Entered by: Jim ()

Message:
Depending on how you look at it Robinson started in mid to late 78. I don't believe anything was ever manufactured until the first part of 79.If you can find any of the very first magazine ads,the team was riding LRV,s with RRP decals in them.




Subject: old skool
Entered on: May 28, 1999 13:36
Entered by: robert ()

Message:
I met Chuck Robinson at GT when he was helping with the transition when he sold out to them in the 80's. He was mean and grumpy. which very much suprised me. Maybe he was just upset because he sold the company? I would have hated to be one of his team riders.




Subject: old skool
Entered on: May 28, 1999 13:37
Entered by: robert ()

Message:
I met Chuck Robinson at GT when he was helping with the transition when he sold out to them in the 80's. He was mean and grumpy. which very much suprised me. Maybe he was just upset because he sold the company? I would have hated to be one of his team riders.




Subject: Chuck
Entered on: May 28, 1999 16:52
Entered by: sbender ()

Message:
Thats funny Chuck and I went to Hooters one time and we had a blast.Huh




Subject: COOKS 26
Entered on: May 29, 1999 02:27
Entered by: darren (dcbmx1@aol.com)

Message:
I was fortunate to purchase a rare cooks 26" cruiser made of stainless steel. It was made a few years ago with the original jigs. There were ten made, and they have a rear brake plate, a small bb with the press on bearings. No chain tensioners. The dropouts look like Bottema as opposed to Cooks. The bike came with gold dx pedals/hubs. Red cooks stem/araya 7x and chrome cooks bars. Since it came from one of the ABA announcers at the nationals - was not cheap, yet reasonable.




Subject: Chuck
Entered on: May 29, 1999 18:44
Entered by: Jim ()

Message:
I rode for Robinson on a co-sponsorship in 79 and 80,and thought the world of Chuck.He always had something to say good or bad.I kinda faded out of racing in the late summer of 80 and returned in early 81.I hadn't spoke to Chuck in about 2 years when he called me in 82,after hearing I had made the move to B pro and was doing good.By this time I had hooked up with Roger Worsham (C W) and prob. pissed Chuck off but he was cool and told me good luck. If I had it to do over again I would of hooked back up with him.From what I knew of him he was a class act.




Subject: Cooks 26
Entered on: May 29, 1999 22:12
Entered by: darren (dcbmx1@aol.com)

Message:
A few years ago, Gary Cook made about ten stainless steel Cooks 26 cruisers with the original jigs. The fork dropouts look like Bottema and the frame brake bridge is a plate. The bottom bracket is small - with a sealed bearing system like the Cooks 20 with small bottom bracket. One of the buyers of the ten is an announcer for the ABA Nationals and he was nice enough to sell the whole bike to me - which included new dx pedals/dx hubs/shimano 600 cranks/gold dia compe brakes/cooks bars and stem/araya 7x rims. For those that go to the nationals - it is worthwhile to show up at the friday pre-race!




Subject: Projects
Entered on: May 30, 1999 01:42
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
I've been picking up odds and ends for my next project bike. I would like a mid 70's frame that is dying to be matched up with 7.5" ashtabula cranks and Asthabula forks both with those cheesy logo's cast in, Original Motomags,a set black box bars and some vinyl pads! I assure you the frame will find a good home in the front window a local bike shop along with my Yamaha, Suzuki, Mongeese adn old BMX clothing from the 70's. I'm think Webco (Monoshock preferred, but hard tail would do) and Gary Little John. Anybody got a frame they would like to part with? Also need Yamaha bike B or c Seat brackets. If somebody could come up with a full seat brackets, I can trade a set of Motobike Stickers (note: the clear vinyl ones have been UPS'd but I've not physically seen the finished product).




Subject:
Entered on: May 30, 1999 01:44
Entered by: Ben ()

Message:
Note: The bikes are going on public display and are not being sold! My wife is tired of me sitting in the basement looking at them each night...




Subject: wanted
Entered on: May 30, 1999 09:33
Entered by: La. (Lboy88@aol.com)

Message:
Looking for black gt tires new(20"),and chrome cw bars, and a set of light blue grips thanks




Subject: patches
Entered on: May 30, 1999 22:46
Entered by: Todd (kbritton@remc7.k12.mi.us)

Message:
Anyone have any cool bmx patches from the 82-88 era? Oakley, Skyway, JMC etc.....Still need some ODI signature grips. C'mon guys, I know they're out there! Thanks!




Subject: Long shot
Entered on: May 30, 1999 23:01
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

Message:
I know that this is a long shot but does anyone have or know where I can get some old school 24" cruiser forks for a 5" head tube?




Subject: Trick Tip
Entered on: May 31, 1999 01:06
Entered by: Ben ()

Message:
For those of us who get desparate for stickers from days of old, and we end up using a hair dryer and removing from our 20 year old tool box, or, you find that much needed sticker only to find out that 20 years has dried the glue, buy soem 3M carpet tape. I bought some today and it works great. It is double sided, very sticky and very thin. Apply it to a long sicne dried sticker back, trim and it's new again .




Subject: darren's cook cruiser
Entered on: May 31, 1999 12:24
Entered by: benwi ()

Message:
darren, that cruiser you picked up sounds awesome. my quest for a cook bros. 26 cruiser is what got me involved in all of this. i'm satisfied for now with my nos powerlite 26 which looks alot like a cook bros. i built it with vdc cruiser bars, cook's stem, ame fini grips, son lite turbo hubs, kkt lightning 2's with seled bearings, a bullseye bb, mx 1000's and mitsuboshi tires. this is one nice rider.you should try to post a picture of your cruiser somewhere.




Subject: CW pictures
Entered on: May 31, 1999 13:56
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
I finally got some pictures together of the CW. So if your interested drop me a line. I dont have a scanner so it will have to be the old fashioned way, US Mail.




Subject: wanted
Entered on: May 31, 1999 20:35
Entered by: la (lboy88@aol.com)

Message:
looking for light blue bmx tires, light blue grips, and brake cables. also 1/2/" bear trap pedals thanks




Subject: Crazy Ronnie sighting
Entered on: May 31, 1999 23:30
Entered by: darren (dcbmx1@aol.com)

Message:
At the ABA Springnationals in Norcal - Ronnie Anderson and his son (who just started racing) were accounted for. Ronnie's dad was also in the crowd. I was stoked to meet the former ABA number one pro, who was very down to earth and mellow. On a side note, a buddy of mine helped me get Frank Post's old Kuwahara Bill Walthers racing pants..... Spent much of my time at nationals hanging out with the Earthquake Clarence Perry, who like Anderson, needs to be in the Hall of Fame (ABA).




Subject: kuwa magician
Entered on: May 31, 1999 23:38
Entered by: Jay (huzz69@aol.com)

Message:
I am trying to find a Kuwahara Magician. If you know where I can acquire one, please email with details. Thanks




Subject: Panda Pro Am
Entered on: Jun 1, 1999 01:41
Entered by: bender (sbender@btigate.com)

Message:
I have access to A complete Panda Pro Am Black with Gold parts.This is a factory bike and has never been ridden. If interested contact me and we can work something out.Also the Webco frames turned out to be a pair of Cyclepro framesets if anyone is interested in these let me know.I just purchased a complete Laguna factory bike still in its original box. I don't know much about it if anyone would like to post their $ .02 I'd appreciate it! What I can tell you about this one is its not an Aluminum one. It is dark mettallic red with red ano shimano parts. Also the grips and seat are Laguna factory logo. And it has IRC tires. I may be willing to trade it if I end up not liking it, I should have it by Friday. I want to thank D Loy for sending me the Die cut JMC stickers...B Joy for the AP JMC stickers...D Chan for the magazine articles he sent and also the advice he gave me....Also Greg H & Dave C for advice and support and just overall being super cool. Also Geoff S I was glad to be able to help you out.




Subject: bmx biking sux
Entered on: Jun 1, 1999 11:55
Entered by: dave leicht ()

Message:
i hate bmx bikers who ever does it sucks really bad. you are a fag if you ride bikes and are over 16. Only losers ride bikes. You all should die and rot in hell. You deserve to be shot.




Subject: looking for hot 15 and under females I am 18.
Entered on: Jun 1, 1999 12:01
Entered by: brian mueller (302 willow rd. Wauconda ILL. 60084 call me (847) 526 7338)

Message:
I am hung like a mule. All little girls like me.call me




Subject: looking for hot 15 and under females I am 18.
Entered on: Jun 1, 1999 12:02
Entered by: brian mueller (302 willow rd. Wauconda ILL. 60084 call me (847) 526 7338)

Message:
I am hung like a mule. All little girls like me.call me




Subject: Gary Renteria
Entered on: Jun 1, 1999 12:02
Entered by: scooter (skipton51@aol)

Message:
At a race in 1985 I inquired to Crazy Ronnie about the wrist brace he was wearing, noting that he had been using it for quite some time. His dead-eyed, gun slinger reply was "I can do more push ups with this hand than you can do with both..." Another time, I handed him a couple of photos from the ABA Grands in Tulsa that a friend of mine had taken of him and after a glance said "Rad pitures dude, you can keepum." The first time I saw Ronnie Anderson was at the 1979 Jag World Championships in Indy. He rode for Panda and was bunny hopping over a bike box in the bike storage area. He was hella rad.




Subject: looking for hot 15 and under females I am 18.
Entered on: Jun 1, 1999 12:03
Entered by: brian mueller (302 willow rd. Wauconda ILL. 60084 call me (847) 526 7338)

Message:
I am hung like a mule. All little girls like me.call me




Subject: Crazy Ronnie
Entered on: Jun 1, 1999 13:46
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx@hotmail.com)

Message:
Do ya'll rememember that shot in the later years of BMXA of Ronnie bunnyhopping onto a 4 foot high loading dock? He was past his prime, too. As the kids say, this guy had mad skills. Got me thinking, does anyone know what the "official" record is today for highest bunnyhop?




Subject: dave leicht
Entered on: Jun 1, 1999 14:57
Entered by: bag (testridemom.com)

Message:
Being over 16 and riding BMX is still better than riding your mom. But after all these years a mongoose with Motomags rides better (And probably a lot lighter).




Subject: Profile & PK Ripper frame/forks ($150 both)
Entered on: Jun 1, 1999 15:41
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

Message:
Guys. A while back I posted about a Profile frame/fork and PK frame/fork for $150. I was hoping to take the Profile myself, but looks like I'll have to pass. He's asking $150 for both. PK is black w/ integrated spc and Landing Gears. Profile is chrome. That's all I know. Contact me and I'll set it up.




Subject: Sting Competition
Entered on: Jun 1, 1999 18:06
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

Message:
Along with some other frames, I've got a Sting Competition frame & fork that I'd like to sell/trade. I haven't had much response on the rest, but have a few DB's, a Rampar f/f, chromoly Huffy's and Murrays and a pair of Mongoose's I'm interested in getting rid of cheap. Trying to clear out. None are in ideal shape, but all are functional. The Sting Comp. is chrome with remnant stickers, but in nice condition.




Subject: El Loco Ronnie
Entered on: Jun 1, 1999 23:22
Entered by: Todd ()

Message:
My Crazy Ronnie story goes like this: we're both in a Washington airport waiting for others/rides. Ronnie shows me his custom, extra long Hutch bike (this was '88). He'd been riding it around the baggage-claim area (he never boxed it, just a tag on the bars), then showed it off to me and told me to check it out. So I hop on to see for myself, when along comes the security guard to take care of some guy riding a bike around the airport! Needless to say, there were no others bike riders in the area. So I'm about to babble some excuse to the annoyed security guy when Ronnie starts smooth talking his/my way out of it! Pretty funny I thought.




Subject: bag (testridemom.com)
Entered on: Jun 2, 1999 12:03
Entered by: Dave Leicht (Go To Hell.com)

Message:
Hey Testridemom. Is that what you do? Test ride your mom? Cuz that's what I've been hearing about you. You are a disgrace to the human race. I guess all of you fag bmx bikers have test rode you mom. In fact, that's probably why you came to be. Your mom is a hoe bag slut, and you enjoy all the things she does for you. You are a sicko!




Subject: TWO NICKELS TO RUB TOGETHER
Entered on: Jun 2, 1999 13:03
Entered by: SCOTH (SKIPTON51@AOL)

Message:
I finally saw the BMX Plus? issue with the "10 Most collectible BMX bikes" or whatever. As always, a half-assed attempt at rendering something viable. Postage stamp-sized photos and the most shallow, milk-toast editorial they could scratch together. On a positive note, Snap has started a (hopefully) monthly feature entitled "Flashback", with the first installment featuring none other than Mighty Stu. Good photos, good info and the promise of more to come. Snap is still no BMX Action, but it's getting better all the time.




Subject: dave leicht
Entered on: Jun 2, 1999 17:28
Entered by: all of us (everyonehere.com)

Message:
Dave Leicht, if you have a problem with this sight than why do you stick your pencil neck in here, we don't need an inbread idiot in here amongst us who are here to enjoy what we do.




Subject: TOWNEsend
Entered on: Jun 2, 1999 18:31
Entered by: KO'D (kevin.odonnell@zdg.com)

Message:
I wonder if Oz ever pulls that Harley of his up to a convenience mart and checks out what the "competition" is doing these days. Although it was a long time ago ... He, Windy, Weed, Giberson and the Nerd Herd set the bar so high that to this date ... nobody has even come close. Plus is a really lifeless magazine, SNAP has character and great photography ... but it's that and a clear style and personality that set BMXA apart. The mag sure did leave its mark. KO'D




Subject: Need a cruiser?
Entered on: Jun 2, 1999 22:18
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
Well, looks like it's time to upgrade the race cruiser, so I'm selling off my current frame and fork which would be a 1997 Schwinn Pro Modified...polished aluminum. Used but in good condition. I figure it's worth about $150. Email me if you're interested. Thanks.




Subject: huffy monoshock
Entered on: Jun 2, 1999 23:46
Entered by: dave (bigwaveddave@earthlink.net)

Message:
hi, i gots a question. I have a huffy monoshock frame. Please tell me any and all information about it... i truely know nothing. when was it from, any history, any value, what parts were origional, any thing at all. thanks alot, dave




Subject: roots
Entered on: Jun 2, 1999 23:56
Entered by: pat (pquinnbmx@jump.net)

Message:
I am pouring thruogh this book I found from 1976 entitled"Bicycle Motocross" by Jack Scagnetti. This is a children's library-type book but in case you haven't seen it, it has a lot of cool pics from '74,'75,and '76. The most notable thing about this book, though, is the explanation of "How the sport was born" in chapter one.The author, who is in SoCal { of course } says that "In the early 1970's .... youngsters were not enthusiastic about 10 speeds...almost everyone from 7 to 17 favored stingrays" and that youngsters were increasingly trying to mimic the motorcyclists and ride their stingrays "in the dirt up and down hills" and they called it " boondocking or boonin' " and that " Schwinn , which had a ' no time limit ' warranty on the Stingrays, was deluged with claims for damaged frames-as much as 75 percent of them from California." ,,,more "roots" later....




Subject: Mile Hi Nationals
Entered on: Jun 3, 1999 12:24
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

Message:
The Mile Hi Nationals are being held on June 11th - 13th. If anyone is going to be out here, let me know. I'd be happy to do a meet and greet.




Subject: thanks
Entered on: Jun 3, 1999 15:45
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
Thanks a lot to Todd Britton who sent me a CW Racing fork sticker so I can get some more made up. Anybody have a frame & headset sticker I can copy from?




Subject: C&C racing
Entered on: Jun 3, 1999 17:47
Entered by: Jeff (winndle@webtv.net)

Message:
Has anyone ever heard of C&C racing frames? Also is anyone interested in one? Also have a Profile Frame and Forks with a Suntour copy(?) stem with Powerlite aluminum bars, no crossbar for small riders if anyone is interested in that.




Subject: M.I.A.
Entered on: Jun 3, 1999 21:06
Entered by: Greg (tangeforx@aol.com)

Message:
Does anyone know how to get a hold of Brian Luttrel in Kentucky? His E-Mail is no longer active.




Subject: Motobike Stickers
Entered on: Jun 4, 1999 00:36
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
I received 6 sets of Yamaha Motobike repro stickers. They are for top tube and headtube. Thye look great...except they made the stickers Yellow and Black rather than White and Black!!!!! Top tube and Head tube on one sheet of clear vinyl $10. Since they made the screens and it was vendor doing a favor, I HOPE to get more in Black and White.




Subject: Skyway
Entered on: Jun 5, 1999 12:20
Entered by: Chris (ceegee@barrysworld.com)

Message:
Would anyone be able to remember when Shyway stopped making parts other than wheels - specifically stems ? Any help & memories appreciated.




Subject: NOS parts for sale
Entered on: Jun 5, 1999 22:16
Entered by: ben ()

Message:
NOS Flite frame pads in blue and chrome checks, red and chrome checks, blue with white stars or red with white stars. Also some Traker frame pads. NOS Tioga headsets in awesome freestyle colors such as pink, lavender, hawaiin blue, etc. Front high flange hubs by Suzue, Sunshine, Shimano and Suntuor in many colors. Blue sunshine low flange rear flip flop hubs. Tuf Neck chain rings with a really light purple anodization. A pair of used white Z Rims with ACS front hub and a coaster rear. ACS rotor in the bag. I also have some used parts for sale. Laguna frame, Vector frame and haro replica bars, NOS R&R frame, NOS Redline forks(newer style w/4"tube), TEAM HARO rub on window stickers in white. I'll post more as I go through it. E-mail me for details and prices.




Subject: Ben
Entered on: Jun 6, 1999 07:23
Entered by: Dan ()

Message:
How about an e-mail address so people can e-mail you Ben? Theres more then one Ben here.




Subject: ben
Entered on: Jun 6, 1999 14:14
Entered by: rich (flatmanrw@mailcity.com)

Message:
hey ben leave your e-mail address or phone number or someway to get a hold of you. iwant to buy some stuff from you !!!




Subject: parts for sale
Entered on: Jun 6, 1999 14:30
Entered by: Ben (webco@execpc.com)

Message:
Sorry about not leaving my address. This is Ben in Wisconsin. The Flite pads I will sell in sets of four, for $10 shipped. I will put one of each style into the pack. I have one complete set of Shimano low flange hubs in blue for $20 shipped. I have flight style chainrings for one piece cranks in colors, 40+41 tooth for $10 each. The other hubs are $10 each shipped. I have a used set of blue Tuff Wheel ones for $25 plus shipping. E-mail for other prices.




Subject: goose find
Entered on: Jun 6, 1999 16:38
Entered by: kluck (rebbluck@clsp.uswest.net)

Message:
just picked up a circa 75 mongoose at the arc thrift store for 20 bones.rides like a dream,and all era correct parts.to good to be true.




Subject:
Entered on: Jun 6, 1999 17:04
Entered by: kak ()

Message:
they should of made chrome skyways




Subject: Powerlite
Entered on: Jun 6, 1999 19:10
Entered by: Philip (chilphil@ticnet.com)

Message:
Does anyone remember a Powerlite called a Mark-4? I have searched through magazine ads from 1977 to mid 1980's and have not seen one. I have a new decal set sealed in the bag for one these. It is the same decal set as other models except for the headtube decal is a circle with the Powerlite "P" with a checkerboard edge around it. The set comes with 2 of these, I also have a single Powerlite decal I will throw in. If anyone is interested in it for 25.00 please feel free to email me but I will be out of town until the 13th.




Subject: Girls Huffy Sweet Thunder BMX Bike
Entered on: Jun 6, 1999 21:19
Entered by: Krash90 (krash90@aol.com)

Message:
Bike is up for auction on www.ebay.com Its under Huffy Sweet Thunder Girls BMX Bike. Ends in seven days.




Subject: who cares?
Entered on: Jun 6, 1999 22:24
Entered by: me (somedude@ou812.net)

Message:
Does anybody else get sick of the shameless "Oh, look at my stuff on ebay" plugs? Let alone a Huffy sweet thunder.




Subject: complete parts for sale list
Entered on: Jun 6, 1999 22:30
Entered by: ben (webco@execpc.com)

Message:
Here is a comp[lete list of parts for sale or trade. HUBS: Suntour high flange front hubs in blue red and gold, Shimano high flange front hubs in silver and blue, Suzue high flange front hubs in blue and black, Sunshine low flange flip-flop rear hubs in blue, Sunshine high flange rear hubs in gold. Any single hub $10 for 1 or $20 for three, One pair of low flange blue Shimano hubs(not DX)for $20. Un-brake for Shimano, Suntour and Bendix$5 each.CHAINRINGS: aluminum Sugino spiders $5/each. TufNeck gold flite style chainrings in red and gold(for one piece cranks) 40t,$10 each. Skyway Turbo Disc, 43t,white, $10. Tuf Neck light purple chainrings, 40+41t, $5. Sugino aluminum star style sprocket(like old mongoose style) 43t, $10. HEADSETS: All headsets areTange/Tioga for $10 each. MX-600 in pink, MX-6 in black, MX-101 in white, pink, lavender, orange. Beartrap 2 in Hawaiin Blue, lime green, plum. Misc. Parts: ACS rotor $20, IZUMI chain in white and pink$10, Izumi chain in rainbow colors, $10. Uni Hand Grenades in pink $10. ODI tec-7 grips in white $5. Suntour pedal cages in gold $5. Late model Redline fork w/4"tube$15. Large white TEAM HARO windshield decals, $5. Suntour Holeshot 2-speed deraileur and sprocket$30. TufNeck red alloy v-bars, $20. Light blue alloy v-bars, $10. Set of four Flite frame pads in blue and chrome checks, red and chrome checks, red with white stars and blue with white stars, $10. Also Traker frame pads, 4/$10. These parts are all NOS and with the exception of the fork and handlebars include shipping. Frames: NOS R+R in red orange, $50. Vector 20" frame with Haro replica bars-$50. Laguna 20" frame $20. GT mini 20" w/ euro bb $25. Blue Skyway Tuff I's, $25. I may also have a pair of Kawasakis for sale. E-mail for details.




Subject: Misc. wants
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 02:50
Entered by: Dave (daver6@concentric.net)

Message:
First off, i need some info on gjs frames. How many models did they make? How rare are they? Did they break alot? And yes, i'd like to find a chrome one. Anyone have one for sale? Frame only is okay. I'm also looking for a cruiser. I'd like to stay with the 1" threaded fork and no canti mounts. I just need a good rider. Not too worried about paint or stickers. Finally, Need info on cruiser numberplates and common gearing. I'm just getting back into racing and i'm going to give cruisers a try. Is 40/17t a good start? Thanks guys....




Subject: Some of my latest finds
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 12:00
Entered by: bob (wesbmx@webtv.net)

Message:
Hey fellas I finally got those NOS old skool stickers I promised long ago. I've spend alot of time,travel and phone costs getting this stuff so its not cheap but not overly expensive. Here it is: STICKERS (most $2 each): REDLINE chatsworth california (crazy rare), DG BMX Performance bicycle Prism(too Rare),Mongoose seat tube,RACE INC Prism,PANDA prism (super rare),SE headtube,100% BICYCLE moto-cross Prism (remember those?);Hutch seat tube in chrome or black. Hutch chrome headtube $3 each-I have about ten left. I have almost 50 stickers of all these..many date back to the 70's. These are NOT repro's!!!!! All 100% original Mint stored in fiberglass cases. I'm going back to pick up about 100 more different stickers...Oldest Haro headtube.terrycable stickers etc..most individual. Complete Hutch chrome sticker pack was too expensive for me to buy but will pick up if needed. I also have a very rare NOS JAG 20" pro frame and fork $179 or best offer!!!!! and Raleigh bmx posters still rolled up in wrapping untouched $4 each. Can get NOS Xcalibur seatpost clamps in gold and silver but expensive $12.95 each. Many of thee items are almost impossible to find.i also can get a NOS CW pro frame (not Z) but it was to high priced for me to buy. NOS Z-wheels in black only $59.95 a set. NOS Hoffman Evel Knievel frame and fork in white with low number- a true collectors Item. Hoffman made a limited amount and just stopped making them. I am also buying/selling/trading Raleigh Choper bikes/parts-These are lighter,better looking and funner to ride than the Schwinn Krate! Raleigh Chopper is the true ICON of all choppers(muscle bikes)! Also buying/trading/selling Kawasaki Aluminum motobikes (B2)...these are precusers to BMX and can be said the rarest of pre-bmx bikes. Any Suzuki motobikes out there? Looking also for rear 20 X 2.125 rear slic tires and front Carlisle Aggressor tires. Schwinn dealers: I want a limited production 1999 Schwinn Grape Krate bike new in unopened box.Any GT Harleys out there left? Any FMF's? I still have a Hutch racing F/F getting blue trickstar F/F in very soon. Prices on old BMX are starting to skyrocket as many people in the bike Industry especially road reps are buying this stuff up...its drying up. I see rare NOS or near mint bikes selling easily for $800 to $2200 even a rare limited production 1997 (2 years old) bike recently sold for $10,000 to a Japanese investor. Coupled with Old skool bmxers who are older with good jobs that are buying dream bmx bikes that they could not afford when they were kids. I'm getting cleaned out but trying to get more in for collectors at reasonable prices. Ooops One pair of Nos Oakley grips left. Have whole box of Rare Mid-80's NOS yellow GT Jerseys-small,med,large only $29.95 each-Just found them in our inventory a week ago. Contact Bargin hunter Bob at WES' BMX PH# 607-754-7311. We pack good,ship promptly and tell you the condition of each item...so you know exactly what your getting. Dealing 100% in the bmx community since the 1970's. No MTB's here.




Subject: a bit more
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 12:34
Entered by: bob (wesbmx@webtv.net)

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Picking up a chrome NOS Champion 24" cruiser fork this week. Stll have some NOS white z-rims left. and one pair of ODI signature Grips NOS. Driving 2 hours tonight to buy a bike shop whole inventory out and bringing back in trailer....Hopefully there will be some old skool....also a lady had 4 bike shops in the 70's-early 80's and closed them all down and put remaining NOS parts in attic in numerous dusty cardboard boxes unopened since way back. She says theres bmx up there !!!!!!!!!!! and possibly two big boxes of NOS Oakley Grips etc...Still trying to get her up there to pull it all down...Possible goldmine. Continue my hunt next week in Pennsylvania and then Ohio the week after. Bob at WES' BMX Ph# 607-754-7311




Subject: Anybody seen the Spot cruiser?
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 13:04
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

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Anybody seen one of the new Spot cruisers? www.spotbikes.com They say that they ripped off some of the geometry from an old school cruiser. I have seen a picture and it looks great. Anybody ridden one or seen one live? Spot is a cool company on the forefront of the new single speed mountain bike scene and kind of remind me of the old bmx companies of old. Check em out.




Subject: GJS info
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 14:25
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

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I saw there was a request for GJS info, so I'll throw out my two cents. We all know the initials, so I'm fore-go that one. The early frame was called the 'A' frame, and had the 2 extra tubes that Hutch used later for the Trickstar. The A frame was available from '78 - '80. They were also producing bars & forks around '79 and '80, and seat posts and spc's in '80. In '81 they came out with the 2nd generation frame which had one less tube up front, front and by late '81 had a 3rd generation frame. The 3rd frame had a beefy under gusset (like the Torker 2's). That's the one I'd like to find personally. They also made the Big Tube at some point (not sure of the year) in limited numbers. The tubing was so oversized that they scaled down the thickness of the tubing. For that reason alot of them snapped. Or so I've heard. Then comes freestyle. I only know of 2 freestyle frames, but I'd be happy to hear differently. The GJS Freestyler had the single extra tube up front and the large under gusset, and the other had the 2 tubes up front and extra tubes toward the back of the top tube which created a little standing platform. The forks on the second one had the built in pegs. That's all that I know of. Once I get a scanner I can post more, but I can Email pics of my fully restored 'A' frame (bike) and 2nd generation frame project. Not to be a prick, but I've also been fortunate enough to have a Big Tube and Freestyle frame/forks.




Subject: Comp IV's in the box
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 14:27
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

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I was just at a bike shop today which has 2 black, and 3 red Comp IV's still in the box. All are 2.125 and are $13 each plus tax. If anybody is interested in these, just email me and I'll pick them up for you. You pay me the cost of the tire plus shipping. Not much else old school in there other than a couple of ACS hubs in blue, and some IRC tires (the Comp II like ones). Let me know if you'd like any.




Subject: Hutch pedals available
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 15:03
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

Message:
Hey. Can of worms, I know, but I know of a pair of Hutch beartrap pedals. NOS. Guy has them in his display case for $63.00 (probably original price tag). I'm sure people will be all over me, but I'm opening it up.




Subject: Wish list
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 17:54
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

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Here is a list of things I need to finish up a project I'm working on...hope somebody can help me to locate these. Some I've posted before with no luck...so here goes. Black bullseye hubs (from about '82, although I don't think they've changed much), blue anodized spokes (72), black or blue suntour stem, black alloy Race Inc. handlebars, Blue MX 1000 brakeset with lever, Blue Maxi Cross cranks, Blue Suntour pedals (KKT Lightning style) 9/16" and last and most difficult...a Trakker Oval style fork. Thanks for any help.




Subject: wanted chrome lay back for older pk ripper
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 20:58
Entered by: la (lboy88@aol.com)

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i think its a 13/16 but i dont know for sure thanks




Subject: SKIP IS A CRAPY FLATLANDER
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 21:06
Entered by: SIMON (SZYMON )

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DAN J IS A CRAPY FLATLANDER JUST JOCKING HE LIKES GAY BOYS




Subject: Looking around
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 22:36
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

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I've been on vacation and have been looking around for older bikes. Unfortunatly all I seem to be able to find right now is older GT's. Did find a older mongoose with tuff 1's but its not for sale, guys hoarding it for his kid, which is cool. I saw the magazine with the 10 best bikes etc. Just curious as to how the Phaze 1 made the list, I thought they were real easy to break. Found a kid with a DK General Lee, I know its not old school but it is a nice frame.




Subject: Prices
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 23:21
Entered by: DAN (bmxca43@hotmail.com)

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I've heard stories of BMX prices like Bob is mentioning before. But, I'm still yet to talk to the people who are paying these prices. Are there guys on this page that would shell out that kind of money for a bike?? I know a few of you pretty well and I don't think any of the heavy hitters with nice collection have ever come close to paying those BS prices. If there are fools out there paying that kind of money here's a message to you ..... good luck getting it back suckers because most sane people are never gonna shell out that kind of bread. Weed out speculators now! Let's protect our hobby from these people you may think it's not a big deal now but head my warning or we all will suffer.DAN




Subject: Top 10
Entered on: Jun 7, 1999 23:54
Entered by: sbender ()

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Danno the Phaze One belongs on the list. The one's you should be worried about are the Kastan strut, and the Skyway TA. Now before some of you freak out, "like always". I'm saying the TA is still cool, but should be more like 25-30th on a list of most desirable/collectible. Does anyone have a GHP frame sticker set or padset to sell. We have a large amount of GHP in our area. The local track director used to distribute and promote their product for some extra coin. And a endless supply of nice stickerless excellent condition one's remain.I can't stand a frame without its stickers.




Subject: mongooses
Entered on: Jun 8, 1999 09:45
Entered by: brian ()

Message:
mongoose ism ok but for that price you can get a dyno air




Subject: John Piant drives a monster truck
Entered on: Jun 8, 1999 11:14
Entered by: skipper (skipton51@aol)

Message:
I am a crapy flatlander. We all know that BMX Plus(-) is Forked up, and we each have our own very biased opinions about bikes and such, and we will never agree on a top ten collectively, so how about we put our money where are mouth's are (I am going to be poor after this one). Post a list of your top ten and ellaborate--for real, do it man. Also, at the ABA website ABABMX.com, there is some really good info in the Hall of Fame section, with photos, history and current whereabouts of many of our most discussed BMX pioneers.




Subject: Schwinn Varsity with the bars turned upside down.
Entered on: Jun 8, 1999 12:00
Entered by: RandyS (groupd@softcom.net)

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I think most peoples top tens would be the bikes they couldn't have back in the day, whenever theirs was. Mine in no particular order would include #1 The Stingray Type bike that the kid at the beginning of On Any Sunday wheelies. This is part of the single most important event BMX wise for me. #2 The frame that Marvin Churchs' dad built, the first straight tube rigid frame. #3 one of the Thom Lund built monoshocks ridden by Ricks team members. #4 Redline Monoshock, do I need to explain. #5 Mongoose/Lynn Wilson monoshock, I don't know how many of these were made but I've seen pictures of at least two slightly different ones. #6 Kawasaki/Yamaha A #7 75 Squareback #8 FMF #9 That shock bike Gary Turner built pre "Pedals Ready GT", I can't remember what it was called right now but it was at the grands one year, it was the beginning of the largest company ever in BMX like em or not. #10 Anything early Littlejohn-Murphy, again I shouldn't need to elaborate. I've left out a few of the givens, they are obvious, Champion, K-R, Webco, Whitney Marine, General Fred Blood, first Haro,blah blah blah.




Subject: HOOFINMOUTH
Entered on: Jun 8, 1999 12:14
Entered by: skiptowne ()

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I realize the Plus article was based on which bikes were "most collectible", but my list is which companies were the most innovative and made the biggest contributions to bicycle motocross. Use your own criteria with your lists. 1. Mongoose. Mongoose frames from the 70s are still being ridden by teen aged boys all over the place to this day. Forget Standard and S&M, the original Mongoose frames were the first heavy-duty bikes built. Mongoose was also not afraid to step to the gate and try crazy stuff, i.e. Moosegoose, Kos Kruiser, Minigoose, 2/4. Danny Oakley couldn't have done without a 7 inch head tube. 2. FMF/SE I group these two together because Scot Breithaupt was an intregal part of both. We must, however, give the true credit to Mike Devitt, who continues to run SE today. Aluminum, full-sized frames and bars with FMF, pioneers of non-standard tubing and frame construction, not to mention creative terminology: Floval (flat-oval) tubing, Quadangle, Bologna-cut (for Landing Gear, which were the first over-sized chromoly forks). Scot B. also introduced the full-uniform look to BMX, which according to BMX Action, was received poorly "When Breithaupt showed up at the races in a completely red uniform, everyone fell over laughing." Proof positive that SE rules is the fact that most of these designs are still being successfully used today. 3. Redline. Linn Kastan adapted motorcycle technology to BMX and came up with some truly essential products: The first tubular chromoly fork, Flight cranks, Proline frames and square chain stays. All good. All time. He did, however, lapse off into the deep end with the Strut. 4. DG. DG bikes had some of the absolute worst geometry ever, but Steve Skibel Sr. must be credited for adapting such items as the European (small) bottom bracket, cantilever brakes and the smaller, road-bike type headset to BMX. His early minis were among the lightest early BMX bikes. DG also made good cruisers early on. 5. Gary Littlejohn. Littlejohn made sidehacks, 16-inch pit bikes, cruisers and the first low-profile competive cruiser frames before anyone. Littlejohn made have never been a very strong name outside of SoCal, but I feel they (he) made great contributions to our sport. 6. Cook Bros. I must first say that I swore off Cook Bros. parts completely after Bicycle Motocross Action printed a letter from one of the Cook brothers stating the Cook Bros. did not condone "stunt riding" and jumping. Aside from that black mark, the brothers Cook created some of the nicest, most innovative BMX components of all time. Cook Bros. use of sealed bearings in hubs and bottom brackets was a milestone and their attention to quality and detail in manufacturing (weld-beads, plating, etc.) was benchmark. The Uni-Clamp stem was the forefather to all clamp-on/thread less steering systems. Unfortunately, much of the Cook Bros. product line was built to such exact tolerances that the average BMX kid wound up stripping bolts and wrecking expensive parts. 7. Peddlepower/Powerlite. Steve Rink was a true pioneer of BMX and was one of the first guys to build quality chromoly BMX frames, as well as developing one of the first twin-top tube designs, which eventually evolved into the Torker. I know that Steve Johnson was involved with Rink at some point, but I do not know the specifics. Maybe someone could help me. 8. Matthews. Matthews made competitive monoshock frames and some of the first good hard tail frames. They also produced a crazy aluminum fork that is almost impossible to describe verbally: Machined flat aluminum legs that bolted to kind of a motorcycle type steel stem tube. Actually worked fairly well and was super light. Matthews evolved into LRV which evolved into Robinson, which were super nice frames. 9. Patterson/Panda. Neither of these companies actually made their own frames, but Carlos Lucia and his crew (who later ran Boss). Made some of the coolest early products from NorCal. The Panda Pro Am was truly one of the first Pro sized frames and the low-profile Patterson frames won a million races under the control of Brent and Brian Patterson and the Avalanche, Richie Anderson. Ron Anderson and Frank Post were early NorCal guys who destroyed tracks on these frames as well. 10. Schwinn. I never wanted to give Schwinn credit for anything because they were a "real" bicycle company and not a BMX company (early corporate rebellion), but the Stingray frame was the foundation for all of BMX. Later on, the Sting set a standard of quality that has been rarely achieved by anyone else. Have you ever looked at he joints on a Sting? I know they are brazed, but they are unreal. The Sting was also one of the first frames to use non-symetrical tubing, with the ovalized top and down tubes. There's my list, bring it on.




Subject: GT Buckeye Nationals
Entered on: Jun 8, 1999 12:17
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
Anybody going to the GT buckeye nats. in Kettering, OH? Let me know, I'll buy the first round at the local chicken wing house. Sbender, I thought the top 10 article was reffering to the best, not the most collectible. If its collectible yeah the phaze 1 should probably be in there. The Buckeye Nats is June 25-27. If anyone has ever been to this track, (Kettering Delco) the city just finished redoing the whole park. They moved the track back a little to the rear but kept the same course basically. Well I'll be there so let me know if your going. Danno




Subject: one more
Entered on: Jun 8, 1999 12:26
Entered by: towne ()

Message:
My above list is no particular order and I guess Webco should be on there somewhere. Randy S and I were compiling our lists simultaneously and I am stoked that we shared some common bikes. His knowledge is deeper than mine and he was in California in the heart of it all. I don't know much about some of those really early companies like Whitney Marine, but I'm sure they are responsible for much of the later evolution.




Subject: Mongoose Decals
Entered on: Jun 8, 1999 18:48
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

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I am currently working with some other people on this page to get an estimate for having the Early mongoose rainbow decal set reproduced. We have collected all of the original stickers. These stickers are kind of tricky (expensive) to make but I have a relative that owns a screen printing company. The more ordered, the cheaper they will be. Please e-mail me if you are interested in getting a set so I will have some idea how many to order. Thanks, Geoff




Subject: Great job Skip!
Entered on: Jun 9, 1999 01:41
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

Message:
Great job on your top 10 frames. I was gonna do mine but our choices are almost identical. Very well done. Geoff




Subject: OM FLYING
Entered on: Jun 9, 1999 11:17
Entered by: skiptownsend (skipton51@aol.com)

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I'm happy to report that the new Flashpoint BMX track in Wayland Michigan has finally opened and it is good. Long straights, bowled (dirt) berms and big, scary doubles. After bending my GT/Profile cranks at last week's practice, I "grounded" my DK 24 and raced my 26" OM Flyer revival project to a first place finish. I am proud to say that no jump was left unconquered, either. I also took second in the combined 18+expert class against an 18 year old, two 19s and a 26 year old man. I am not boasting, but I wanted all you old guys to know that this 34 year old teen ager is keeping it real.




Subject: Hutch
Entered on: Jun 9, 1999 21:31
Entered by: shinglehead ()

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I have a pair of Hutch pedals, 9/16, for trade. The bad part is that there are no cages with them. I would like to trade for anything JMC related.




Subject: Motomag 1 front wheel
Entered on: Jun 10, 1999 00:32
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
I must have a front original Motomag wheel!!! Please email if you have one for sale or trade. Thanks. Also, I have a freshly painted (not built since paint) Mongoose frame circa 1977 with coater brake mount complete with new stickers on head tube, seat tube and downtube, new Tange headset and NOS Ashtabula forks for sale.




Subject: Cool Stuff
Entered on: Jun 10, 1999 00:40
Entered by: Ben ()

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I have to run on about some cool stuff I saw at a guys hosue today. He is a collector by defualt. He has never sold a bike and has had a passion for Cafe racers adn side hacks. Yet you need to blend it with a taste for Campagnolo and Phil Wood. This guy basement had 40+ bikes hanging neatly on hooks, with a couple of bike stands to tweak the bikes. He had a rare 16" Redline with tuffs and redline forks, a complete JMC Shadow, 3 hacks, NOS Patetrson F/F and so much stuff your head would spin. Sounds like I'm full of shi_. It was amazing. Worst part is, he doesn't want to sell and has not riden the stuff for mostly 15 years!!!! The deatil was amazing Agreesort like new, grips like new, side hacks with orignal flight crankls and bottema forks. Don't email me, he won't sell. But I will get pcitures and email later.... My find and new possession - A Nickel Redline Monshock! Sweet!




Subject: Bikes for sale
Entered on: Jun 10, 1999 01:41
Entered by: Ben (Benjoy@teleport.com)

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The following bikes are for sale. I do not own them, but will be happy to facilitate the transaction: Riden Once Patterson F/F in chrome (maybe nickel), complete with Campy low flange hubs, Black 7 x rims, f/r brakes, slicks and down hill cafe bars stem. It is perfect down to the stickers and has been hanging since the early 80's, Price $600. Like new, not riden for 15 years JMC Shadow F/F Chrome w/ DY bars, Black AMe grips, Tioga CRO Mo tube cranks, Campy low flange hubs, polished 7b rims (The same as DY used), GT post, SME (?) stem that looks likea Pro Neck but is long, Haro vented plate, slicks. Looks new other than dust seriuosly $750. I own the following and they are for sale: 1978 Nickel Mongoose with Motomag 2's completly restored, Ashtabula forks, stems, original bars, New seat, NOS Mongoose yellow grips, NOS Mongoose yellow pads, new Tires,chain, bearing, pedals. Everything polished, bead blasted or repainted painted. Even new Headtube, downtube and seat tube stickers. Make offer and save yourself the work! Your wife will appreciate the time you saved! Red Mongoose frame (NOS stickers on headtube, downtube and seat tube) and NOS Astabula forks with Logos and new Tange headset. Make offer.




Subject: Thanks
Entered on: Jun 10, 1999 11:10
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

Message:
Just a quick thanks to Ben in WI for the Flight 400 bottom bracket. Haven't installed it yet, but it brings me that much closer to finishing my Proline 1 project. You the man.




Subject: GHP vs. TNT
Entered on: Jun 10, 1999 17:14
Entered by: jesboogie (tpjdiaz@bellsouth.net)

Message:
This discussion group rules! I am looking for TNT (hubs, bars)and GHP as well. I am looking to trade : a pair of red mongoose forks ( prizm stickers !), a purple terry cable and dyno ankle protector. Thanks. jesboogie PS I have a bunch of old freestyle pictures that I want to post, and was wondering that is the best site for them.




Subject: new email address
Entered on: Jun 10, 1999 18:03
Entered by: Brian (bml@digitalconnections.com)

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Here is the new email address. Still looking for JMC long frame, any color or condition. Visited the Grand National track in Louisville last week, it is a first-rate facility, with concrete berms. Very cool.




Subject: new email address
Entered on: Jun 10, 1999 18:29
Entered by: Brian (bml@digitalconnections.com)

Message:
Here is the new email address. Still looking for JMC long frame, any color or condition. Visited the Grand National track in Louisville last week, it is a first-rate facility, with concrete berms. Very cool.




Subject:
Entered on: Jun 10, 1999 23:09
Entered by: kluck ()

Message:
anybody know when tange stop making forks




Subject: DECALS
Entered on: Jun 11, 1999 00:43
Entered by: John ()

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If interested in "old school" Powerlite decals, please contact: Jeff at 619-298-5551. Thanks.




Subject: King Sting
Entered on: Jun 11, 1999 01:32
Entered by: darren (dcbmx1@aol.com)

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Picked up a Black King Sting 26" 10 speed model and would like to find the original gold wheels with five speed cog. My wheel-less bike is in good shape with original decals and all stock parts.




Subject: An amusing experience
Entered on: Jun 11, 1999 13:53
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

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While at a local (previously undiscovered) bike shop picking up some tires for somebody, I browsed around at the various used parts and bikes (nothing noteworthy to speak of). I'm putting together a rider and need some wheels that are round, but not perfect...don't want to spend a lot on them. I came across a "well used" set of wheels with Sunshine hubs and Araya 7X rims with flat spots and bubbling chrome...but rideable. I inquired as to the price of said wheels and told the old man my story of needing some used wheels and my price expectations etc... His words "well you won't be getting these baby's then...that's a sunshine hub, big money" I said "really? How big?" He says "Oh, I could let them go for $100 I suppose, they've been here a while" (which was evident by the gasping and coughing I did as the dust flew off the first time I spun them to check if they were true) I told him that they were probably worth about $30 only to hear him chuckle. Gee...I wonder why those wheels have been there so long?




Subject: Race Gear for sale
Entered on: Jun 11, 1999 17:29
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

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For Sale: Everything worn 2x only. Answer Edge race pants and Answer Stylus Jersey. Both in Blue/Black color combo. Also Bell Rythym Pro helmet (lg) in Black. $150 for everything. Wife says everything goes if I want the Redline Monoshock... This coupled with a new baby and multiple friends braking bones recently while racing, I have to chill for a while and stick to riding/drinking beer in the neighborhood.




Subject: Raec Gear
Entered on: Jun 11, 1999 17:37
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

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The pants are 34w and the jersey is large.




Subject: Portland
Entered on: Jun 11, 1999 19:43
Entered by: ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

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I apologize, but a guy from Portland, who visits this board had conacted me about Gold stuff for an FMF. I have some gold items, please email if you are interested.




Subject: Sheely's Wheels
Entered on: Jun 11, 1999 22:48
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx@hotmail.com)

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I just found a 83 mail order catalog from Sheely's Wheels. If you remember, Shawn Sheely posted here a bunch in Dec/January, but he hasn't been back. It was interesting to look at his old catalog. There were frames from 18 companies, only 5 are around today (GT, Robinson, Haro, Redline, Torker) and none are owned by the same owners anymore. Some of the departed from his catalog: Reach, Patterson, GHP, JMC, Jag, Navajo, CW, Race inc. Anyway, just made me nostalgic. Too bad he doesn't have any inventory anymore. Sure wish I could order up some MKS Graphite-X pedals for 10.95! By the way, not that anyone else cares, but Sheely is featured in the current BIKE magazine. It is a story about the Minneapolis bike messenger scene. Man, those guys live large.




Subject: Some good news
Entered on: Jun 11, 1999 23:00
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

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This might be old news to some of you guys in the bike biz but I was told by a rep. that comp IIIs are gonna be made in colors again!! 20's AND cruiser sizes. Said that they will be showing them at some large trade show this summer.




Subject: For Sale
Entered on: Jun 12, 1999 18:11
Entered by: Ben (Benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
JMC Shadow complete bike listed above. Owner listened that it was too high $600 OBO that is consideraed resonable. It is a nice clean bike that has sat for 15 years. Mongoose Motomag restored $250 or best above. It is very nice and can send a picture. Mongoose frame red 1/2 cro mo with NOS never installed Tange forks $60 or best above (The forks have the Ashtabule logo and a 5" stem).




Subject: Correction
Entered on: Jun 12, 1999 18:13
Entered by: Ben ()

Message:
The Frame coems with NOS Ashtabula forks, not Tange.




Subject: Chuck Robinson
Entered on: Jun 13, 1999 11:52
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

Message:
Found a complete LRV locally that looked like a Robinson so I did a little research and came up with this little article in an old BMXA about Chuck Robinson and thought it was interesting enough to share. Here is a snippet of the article. "Ya gotta figure that anybody who dates back to the days of Manny's Mudsuckers and Palms Park racing has got to konw which end it up. Chuck Robinson is one of BMX's vintage veterans. From Manny's he moved on to Dan Gurney's All American BMX in 1972. Next he started the Webco program and then did the same theing for DG. Both were highly successful teams. After a short fling with the abruptly aborted LRV effort, Chuck launched Robinson Racing in February 1978." Thought this was a pretty interesting piece of info. The LRV is a really cool bike with Dura Ace cranks, Cook bottom bracket, Tange TRX forks, and bullseye hubs. Looks just like a Robinson but has LRV stamped in the gusset. If anybody knows anything else about these bikes, please let me know.




Subject: Complete Book of BMX, by RL Osborn
Entered on: Jun 13, 1999 15:50
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
Just picked up this book, complete book of bmx by RL Osborne at the library. If you havent seen it yet check it out. It has some great old school pictures in it. A lot of JMC, Kuwahara, Hutch, CW etc etc etc. Danno




Subject: Where is....
Entered on: Jun 14, 1999 08:16
Entered by: Todd (kbritton@remc7.k12.mi.us)

Message:
Thought I'd try to reach Corey Slumkoski here, as I've been unsuccessfully trying to reach him by e-mail. So Corey, get a hold of me!




Subject: MooseGoose
Entered on: Jun 14, 1999 11:57
Entered by: Mike (michaelleonard@bmxnonstop.zzn.com)

Message:
Picked up a chrome MooseGoose this weekend for $75. Reasonably priced I thought. Does anyone know where to get a sticker set for this badboy? Also, the kid I bought it off also has a Cycle Pro Greg Hill replica. Are these worth anything? If any of you are interested in it, let me know. Please e-mail if anyone has info on some decals, or is interested in the cycle pro.




Subject:
Entered on: Jun 14, 1999 12:07
Entered by: ryan ()

Message:
i hate it when i see something on e-bay and i always get out bid and the prices are sky high !!!xcxit is such a shame . does anyone know where i can get a freestylin' auto window sticker ???




Subject: Freestylin sticker
Entered on: Jun 14, 1999 13:01
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

Message:
Ryan - I think I have that Freestylin sticker you want. Neon green if memory serves. I'd be willing to part with it, but would much prefer to deal in stickers/trade.




Subject: Complete Book of BMX, by BOB Osborn ?
Entered on: Jun 14, 1999 19:09
Entered by: STRIKE ()

Message:
Isn't that Complete Book of BMX, by BOB Osborn ?




Subject: Cafe Bike
Entered on: Jun 15, 1999 00:10
Entered by: benjoy@teleport.com (Ben)

Message:
ANyone interested in turning a bike into a downhill/cafe bike? If so, I have a set of Gold 7x/Suzue Wheels,New Tioga slicks, Tubes, GT Pegs, POwerlite powers, drop stem, Uni wheel cover, and f/r brakes (Diacomp MX) that I would like to sell as a set. Email if intested. Mid 70's front shocks also available. Chrome legs with balck ruber boots. All parts in tact. Forks are like what Thom Lund used on his Monoshock. SInce there is no interest in the Mongoose f/f combo, I am willing to sell NOS Forks ($35 is what I paid) and Mongoose frame ($25 is what I paid). Lastly, anyone know about "Moto Pro Competition Bicycles"?




Subject: What brand is this bike?
Entered on: Jun 15, 1999 09:41
Entered by: Scott (smorrow@gbutler.com)

Message:
I'm looking for someone to tell me what brand and approx. year this bike is. It has been sitting in my "project" pile for a sometime, and I am looking at either selling it, or finding some parts to restore it. It is all chrome, wide handle bars,ovalized top tube, bottom tube and forks, fluted seat post, rear free-wheel. If you are able to receive pictures, I could email a .jpg to you. Thanks for any help or information.




Subject: Appleton Wisconsin Show and swap
Entered on: Jun 15, 1999 16:47
Entered by: Luke (vcarlson@vbe.com)

Message:
We are having a vintage Bike show and swap in Appleton WIsconsin Sunday AUG 15th. There will be a vintage BMX show class and.....BMX swappers are VERY welcome of course... Call 920-731-1106 or email vcarlson@vbe.com to be put on the mailing list......




Subject:
Entered on: Jun 15, 1999 21:02
Entered by: christopher Theodore ()

Message:
They had a bike auction by my home in Ithaca and people came from all over..The guy ended up getting $50,000 for his "medium" sized collection; One Iron bike went for $5,000. The last annual vintage bike auction in Mich. Three bikes sold for over $100,000 each. I collect cars and the serious collector does not look at the price...He buys what he likes. Its doubtful Vintage Bmx items will go for big big mula but supply is drying up and its no doubt that prices will rise...I'm buying all I can now.




Subject: WANTED
Entered on: Jun 15, 1999 21:26
Entered by: ned (letmewin@webtv.net)

Message:
Willing to pay $500 for Mint or NOS Hutch 3 pc. cranks with original BB. Also looking for mint NOS pre-1983 Gold SE PK Ripper frame ...pay up to $400




Subject: Reply - What brand is this bike?
Entered on: Jun 16, 1999 09:31
Entered by: Scott (smorrow@gbutler.com)

Message:
Thanks to everyone who responded to my question concerning the BMX bike I have. Didn't find out for sure what brand it is, but did find that it wasn't anything special and really isn't worth hanging on to. I'll keep looking for more "quality" bikes for my project pile.




Subject: No thanx to Chris!
Entered on: Jun 16, 1999 10:25
Entered by: mike (michaelleonard@bmxnonstop.zzn.com)

Message:
Thanx for nothing Chris Theodore. In reference to your message above. Those of us here trade and buy because of a love for BMX, not monetary gain. It is because of people like you chris, that some of us have a hard time affording parts to finish projects. Go to ebay chris, you'll feel right at home. I apologize for posting a message with negative overtones, but I couldn't help it.




Subject: Buy/Sell
Entered on: Jun 16, 1999 12:34
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
I think most people on this board would prefer to sell to someone who needs that last part to finish their dream bike. However, Many people who try to sell on this board get no reponses on this board. So off to ebay. I stayed away from it, but have had to go just to move some stuff out. I have some stuff that I would like to sell: FMF Brake Bridge set, Silver Diacomp brake, Tange Offset axle forks, Front Shocks and triple clamps for an old school bike, 1 pr. Tioga slicks (Pool?), Powerlight JR bars (The kind that bend at the ends, Red Mongoose Frame, NOS Ashtabula forks (Last time I type this item) and a Complete Mongoose/Motomag bike (http://web2.airmail.net/gsebast1/bengoosepage.html) . If anyone needs any of this to complete a bike, I'm open to what they think is a fair offer.




Subject: Haro Master
Entered on: Jun 16, 1999 14:37
Entered by: Chris (ceegee@barrysworld.com)

Message:
Am building up an 86 Haro Master, and would really appreciate if anyone has access to the magazine advert from back then. I seem to remember they ran an ad for both the Master and the Sport, with both pictured. I just want to be sure of the parts. If anyone has such a thing would be grateful of a pic being mailed. Thanks in advance.




Subject: Torker: Does anybody know which model this frame is?
Entered on: Jun 16, 1999 19:15
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

Message:
A friend and I are trying to identify this Torker frame. Take a look at it: http://web2.airmail.net/gsebast1/torkerquestion.html Any help appreciated. Thanks, Geoff




Subject: Torker
Entered on: Jun 17, 1999 01:43
Entered by: DAN (bmxca43@hotmail.com)

Message:
Geoff, your Torker is kind of the last of a great bike. I'm not sure of the exact year probably 86? Torker switched to that gusset with the long slot. Shortly thereafter we faced the Torker2 and other crap luckily girls and cars had taken over for me at that point. I'm not sure the exact model designation, but if somebody was to hunt around in there later mags they might find it. I made a bad trade and got rid of some cruiser bars it turned out I needed!!!! If anyone has a set, any brand in decent condition please get in touch. I have stuff to trade or cash. On a different note is anyone starting to head my warning about speculators yet, seems there were a couple of tell tale post that things are heading that way. Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!!!!!!!!!!!!DAN




Subject: Speculators
Entered on: Jun 17, 1999 13:28
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

Message:
Dan, I think you are right. I go to a bike club meeting every once in a while and ask if anybody has seen any old bmx stuff. Some of the old balloon and stingray guys are now convinced that it is the next big thing, so they are starting to look for stuff. Kinda funny when you see a guy come up with a mag scrambler and think that it is killer old school material. This guy said he wouldn't "part with it" for less than 300.00!!! and funny thing is, I don't think will have to "part with it" any time soon……… BMX is not like stingray stuff where there are only a dozen or so variations of the same theme. You really had to be a dealer or part of the early days of bmx to understand the maze of small companies and innovation that the old school days were all about. I think that will be the saving grace of old school stuff.




Subject: Speculators, etc.
Entered on: Jun 17, 1999 16:34
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx@hotmail.com)

Message:
Geoff, I agree. Unless you lived BMX, you don't know what's up. Those of us who know what we value will pay for what we want and will pass on the rest. As for eBay, I don't think we should complain about it too much because (1) most of the stuff that goes up there, we would never otherwise see, and (2) a lot of stuff does get offered here for trade first, and there are no takers. At least if bike comes up there that you really HAVE to have, you can fork out the cash and get it.




Subject: Umm, this is kind of embarassing...
Entered on: Jun 17, 1999 16:37
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx@hotmail.com)

Message:
Does anyone have/know where to find any 12" or 16" wheel scooters? Don't care what condition or brand, but don't expect me to pay much. I'd like one or two for my kids.




Subject: Dating GT's
Entered on: Jun 17, 1999 17:19
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
Anybody know if you can date GT's by the serial number? I thought I heard that you could before. Also are the newer ones made in China? If so, how can you tell them apart? Geoff that is a nice Torker you have there. As far as the pricing craze that seems to be going around, that is what drove me away from bikes in the first place, I'm not saying thats bad but it is hard to shell out that kind of money when you can buy a car with it. Damn, wish I had some 3 piece Hutch cranks layin around. Danno




Subject: Message board.
Entered on: Jun 17, 1999 18:56
Entered by: STRIKE ()

Message:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/backinthedaybmx




Subject: id
Entered on: Jun 17, 1999 21:56
Entered by: kluck (youtellme)

Message:
could some one tell me what kinda of bike i have and what year it is. it has a hole in the gusset like mongoose and a badge in front of the frame thet says moto 1 bmx, the frame is red.




Subject: Virus alert
Entered on: Jun 17, 1999 22:39
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx@hotmail.com)

Message:
I want you all to know that I picked up the infamous worm.explorezip virus. It came to me as a file attachment called happy.exe I stupidly downloaded it without scanning it first. This thing replicates unbeknownst to the sender. So please, if anyone receives any emails from me (or anyone, even & especially someone you normally trust) with file attachments, do not download them or open them. Delete it. If you want to know more about this virus go to this website. I downloaded a "cure" for it from there, so I think I am clean now, but I don't know for sure. Be careful out there! http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/worm.explore.zip.html




Subject: Need mongoose cruiser bars and gold stem
Entered on: Jun 18, 1999 00:10
Entered by: geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

Message:
Looking for nos or very nice mongoose stainless steel cruiser bars and gold stem. Also need gold mongoose spider. Will pay cash or trade.




Subject: Moto Pro Competition Products
Entered on: Jun 18, 1999 13:00
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
Has anyone heard of "Moto Pro Competition Products"? There is a sticker with a guy jumping a biks and this text on my Redline. The stcikers in good shape and din't want to remove it if it had something to do with early Redline products.




Subject: Motobikes
Entered on: Jun 18, 1999 14:15
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
Anyone have a Motobike Model b or c set of seat brackets they would like to part with? These are for mounting a banana seat on year two and three bikes. Scott Meyers?




Subject: Moto Pro
Entered on: Jun 18, 1999 20:08
Entered by: RandyS (groupd@softcom.net)

Message:
Ben, Moto Pro was a Nor Cal company with ties to Bob Phillips/Dirtmaster. They made a few different frames, the best known the superstar. Scott Barrette has on Darren has one I think. They also made a Magnesium Motomag copy with the x replaced with a v forming a star. Speedo forks were copies of Moto Pro forks. No ties to Redline that I know of but almost everybody sold other companies stuff at the beginning. Leave the sticker on, it's definately the right era.




Subject: skyway ?
Entered on: Jun 19, 1999 12:10
Entered by: RICH (FLATMANRW@MAILCITY.COM)

Message:
FOUND THIS FRAME IN A GUYS SHED LAST NIGHT , i think its a skyway but not sure. the top tube and down tube and seat tube are tear drop shape and also is the seat post, ther are serial numbers on the underneath of the bottom bracket and also on the headtube . anyone got any answers for me??? THANKS!!!




Subject: Thanks
Entered on: Jun 19, 1999 18:17
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
A huge thanks to Scott Raynes who sent me Chatswaorth stcikers for my Redline Monoshock. But the best thing was he sent me an old buyers guide which about a dozen old shock bikes from the mid 70's including a shot and spec's on my new find. Rubber pedals were stock!




Subject: Frame
Entered on: Jun 19, 1999 22:08
Entered by: Dan ()

Message:
Hey Rich, that tear drop seat tube sounds like a Huffy to me.DAN




Subject: Hutch 16" forks
Entered on: Jun 20, 1999 00:22
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
I found a set of 16" Hutch forks in great condition. Anyone need them?




Subject:
Entered on: Jun 20, 1999 13:15
Entered by: jimmy (jpnavio@aol.com)

Message:
******FOR SALE 1997 GIANT MOSH PRO XL 20" BIKE PROFILE 3 PIECE CRANKS SHIMANO DX BRAKES ATOMIC FLAT BOY PLATFORM PEDELS GOOD SHAPE YOURSELF OR YOUR KID WILL HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THIS BIKE GREAT FOR RACING DIRT JUMPING OR JUST CRUISING ONLY ASKING $400.00 REG $700.00




Subject: torker 5.7 24" bike
Entered on: Jun 20, 1999 18:04
Entered by: hong (hongbits@mediaone.net)

Message:
i just got this torker 5.7 and am looking for any info on it. anything would be great!




Subject: help with a torker 5.7 bike
Entered on: Jun 20, 1999 18:08
Entered by: hong (hongbits@mediaone.net)

Message:
i just got this torker 5.7 crusier, it is brand new and very light, but thats all i know about it. any info/help would be great! hong




Subject: Bullseye Cranks
Entered on: Jun 20, 1999 20:42
Entered by: Greg (Pigbeavis@aol.com)

Message:
Just picked up two sets of Bullseye cranks (1 170mm, & 1 175mm) looking for any info about them. I set is complete with bottom bracket, but looks like it is missing some type of bearing holder (ala Profile), send set is missing bottom bracket. Any help appreciated.




Subject: wanted
Entered on: Jun 20, 1999 22:13
Entered by: la (lboy88@aol.com)

Message:
wanted black grips F1's or similar??, thruster farme and fork, also a set of black and white checkerboard pads. Can anyone help??thanks




Subject: test
Entered on: Jun 21, 1999 00:50
Entered by: test (ffdffddffd@hotmail.com)

Message:
test




Subject: I have a bmx and wanna know the info on it.
Entered on: Jun 21, 1999 01:50
Entered by: Wesley (dojha@webtv.net)

Message:
Ok... I was driving down the road and saw a yard sale with all these bikes laying around so I just had to stop. I was checking out all the bikes and I came across a bike that really caught my attention... so I bought it. Now, this lady wanted $25 bucks for it but I checked out the tires and noticed that they had to be changed (this was before I even noticed it was a bmx) and said "I'll give ya 12 for it" and she agreed so I took it home. I was sitting on my porch changing the tires when I noticed it had two stickers just below the handle bar on the front of the bike that read BMX. Im wondering how much this bike may be worth if anything so I came here hoping one of you is enough of an expert to help me out. My bike has a banana seat and a "bitch bar" (girl bar). Its red with little white stripes on it wrapped around the bars everywhere... It also has covers over the tires. I hardly ever ride this bike because it has the bitch bar so it's still in very good condition. It looks like something someone would ride in the 70's. Now if any of you think you know of the bike that I am talking about please mail me and tell me the make and model of the bike... I would really appreciate it. Just mail me at dojha@webtv.net.




Subject: Bullseye cranks
Entered on: Jun 21, 1999 09:56
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx@hotmail.com)

Message:
I too picked up some Bullseye cranks not too long ago. These cranks are very well thought out and really should be more popular, but alas, Bullseye doesn't seem to know anything about marketing. Anyway, Bullseye made BB sets to fit BMX and several different MTB bb shells (euro, Klein, Fisher, etc.) So you may have one that is for one of those bikes. Not to worry though, you can buy the parts you need from Bullseye. They will be on the spendy side ($20 for bearings with no cups, more if you need the cups, and it sounds like you do.) If you call there, the company founder, Roger Durham will likely pick up the phone. 818-846-9163. If anyone has any Bullseye hubs or cranks that they'd like to sell, e-mail me.




Subject: Get a thesaurus Wesley
Entered on: Jun 21, 1999 12:37
Entered by: Kathy ()

Message:
I hate to make this into a politically correct forum, but "bitch bar" ?? c'mon wesley.




Subject: super Chicken
Entered on: Jun 21, 1999 17:35
Entered by: SCAPER (SKIPTON51@AOL)

Message:
Awhile back, someone was looking for plastic caps for Shimano DX pedals. I have two of those caps, NOS, if someone needs them. Will trade Ben Joy for Redline Monoshock--if any of you haven't seen this thing, have Ben send you the pix, it is unbelievable. Even more unbelievable is the fact that the guy who had it before Ben had it set up as a downhill bike. On a different note (and I don't want to get ahead of myself here), my RRS project should be completed this week, repleat with eccentric BB and era-correct parts. Much props go to Todd Britton for getting the obscure bottom bracket for me and also to Scott Raynes for hooking me up with some good old stickers, including a Cheetah sticker. A Super Cheetah II was my first real BMX frame in 77 when I started racing. watch the lights.




Subject: Motomags
Entered on: Jun 21, 1999 21:21
Entered by: jeff (winndle@webtv.net)

Message:
I am looking for a set of motomags, I have a Profile f/f, and a CC racing frame to trade.




Subject: webco mags
Entered on: Jun 21, 1999 22:36
Entered by: ben (webco@execpc.com)

Message:
I found a front webco mag, need a rear for a set-any help is appreciated. I also have a chrome Torker frame for sale-20", has intact head and down tube decals-$50.




Subject: Bullseye Cranks
Entered on: Jun 21, 1999 22:46
Entered by: jesboogie (tpjdiaz@bellsouth.net)

Message:
Are those bullseye's lighter than similar 3pc (Profile, Flites)? And are they really two piece, because the spider is attached? Curious ; ) jesboogie PS How would Bullseye hubs stack up against Crupi's?




Subject: Bullseye cranks, etc.
Entered on: Jun 22, 1999 09:34
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

Message:
The 2 piece crank design on Bullseye cranks have the spindle built into one of the crank arms. They seem pretty strong and I've never heard complaints on them. And thanks Jesse for the GJS forks. They're the sweetest. Srry about the spider. I'll drop one in the mail this week. And thanks to Scott Towne for the GJS sticker. I actually know of a jersey I'm gonna work on next.




Subject: Bullseye Cranks
Entered on: Jun 22, 1999 11:14
Entered by: Greg ()

Message:
I have a set of the 84' Bullseye cranks, and they are the lightest cranks I have ever seen. They are only slightly heavier than an alloy 3 piece crank of the same length. Very innovative design! I did have to get some new bearings from Bullseye for them and Paul was correct, a little pricey and the company founder answered the phone.




Subject: Bullseye Crank Thanks
Entered on: Jun 22, 1999 14:14
Entered by: Greg (Pigbeavis@aol.com)

Message:
Thanks to Paul for the number to Bullseye. Called them today and they are sending bearing cups, ($10.00), and one complete BMX bearing set ($40.00), and free stickers for the crankarms. Cranks are heading to the powdercoaters today. Thanks again.




Subject: crit plates
Entered on: Jun 22, 1999 15:56
Entered by: scoott (skipton51atamericaonline)

Message:
thanks to Jeff winndle for the GJS sticker in the first place and for being my friend to the end, brother from another mother, etc. Here's a story that will make some of you cringe: Coming back from a National in 1984, Jeff stuck duct tape under my (bare) arm, sticking very thoroughly to my armpit hair, therefore inducing great pain upon removal. Heated words were exchanged, followed by silence from the back seat for the rest of the trip. I left my car at his house for some reason and the next day when I went to pick it up, there was a crumpled JMC Shadow frame wedged under the windshield wiper as a token of anger toward me. Jeff rules. He can hang a one-handed, one-footed wheelie on a Honda Trail 70 for two blocks at speed. Speaking of crumpling, I recently destroyed a set of Haro 24" forks at the local track, as well as seriously twisting a GT/Profile crank arm and a Profile spindle. I know I weigh a little more than I used to, but jeez, I'm pretty disillusioned about all of this. I know this isn't a vintage topic, but a lot of you guys are racing and I just wanted to pass this info on.




Subject: CRANKED
Entered on: Jun 22, 1999 17:14
Entered by: Greg ()

Message:
Skip, 3 words REDLINE FLIGHT CRANKS!!!! Back in the day, as I recall, the knock on Profiles was that the spindles were easily tweaked. Any one else remember some of the probs associated with any of the older components? I.E. Hutch Cranks coming loose, seat posts becoming stuck in Patterson Frames, ETC.




Subject: old mongoose
Entered on: Jun 22, 1999 19:51
Entered by: bc (robinchil @ aol.com)

Message:
Just pulled an old Mongoose outa the landfill. Chrome or nickel frame, rainbow decal on down tube, one red "lester" mag wheel on front and the cheesiest crank/pedal setup ever. Gold Mongoose stem,steel post and binder. Need matching rear wheel and some idea for brakes or will part out if anyone needs stuff. What is it, and when was it made?




Subject:
Entered on: Jun 22, 1999 21:37
Entered by: THE SHADOW ()

Message:
Whoever is over bidding on the EBay Trickstar will be disappointed to find that it is a later one with the Taiwan HI CALIBER parts. The cranks are just the HI CALIBER 1 piece. Sorry.




Subject: Bullseye cranks
Entered on: Jun 22, 1999 22:26
Entered by: scott b (sbender@btigate.com)

Message:
Bullseye cranks were far lighter then any other chromoly crankset available in the 80's. Unfortunately they had problems there were 3-4 sets within my riding circle. All of them wouldn't stay tight, and I know one set broke at the junction of the arm to spindle area.The bolts on the B/B never stayed tight either, and they seemed to have a chronic creaking to them. Another bit of advice is Bullseye makes a Square beartrap style pedal, which is probably the Ugliest pedal ever created. As far as other product troubles, I'd say I've seen 5 broken Quad's. All broke at the TT to brace bar junction. Hutch cranks were a headache from the sets I've seen where people actually rode them. They never stayed tight, and the collar on the spindle where the disc/sprocket sits is only a 1/3 of the size it needs to be. So under heavy accleration the disc would slip off this collar usually ruining the disc.Early PK's all broke off at the seattube, at least the one's that were ridden hard. Also I believe , but can't prove that some of them had trouble with bending in the rear triangle. I remember that at the 93 Grand's I saw 3 Hawk Aluminum forks snap at the bend in the leg area.Just ordered myself a Brooklyn Machine Works frame kit, its one of the trickest rides out there right now, they have a cool website if some of you want to check it out.




Subject: Webco Stickers
Entered on: Jun 22, 1999 23:24
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

Message:
I've got a few Webco frame stickers that I would like to trade for other stickers. Thanks, Geoff




Subject: BMXAction Trick Team tribute. http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Ridge/1106/
Entered on: Jun 22, 1999 23:59
Entered by: STRIKE (gemtek@usa.net)

Message:
Well I was working on this site tonight, check it out if you remember any of the BMXA staff. http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Ridge/1106/




Subject: ugh
Entered on: Jun 23, 1999 00:01
Entered by: pat (pquinnbmx@jump.net)

Message:
Hey Wesley, just what in the heck is a "bitch-bar" anyway? We BMX dudes say we have a "bmx bike" or a "ride" or something, but we don't have a "bmx". In fact there is no such thing as a "bmx" , in noun form. My guess is Granny stuck some cheesey decals on an old Stingray wanna-be bike. as for eBay , I've made some good deals on there but it seems like the word "Hutch" makes people go nuts. and how about that PK for three bills and the reserve is "not met"! I gotta a reserve right here....as for Rich: sounds like a Raleigh from around 1983-84 with that oval seat tube { or Cycle -pro } these were Taiwan or Japan. I bet it has a hanger for a chain guard. As for kluck: everyone in Taiwan tried to copy Mongoose gussett but usually had a loop-tail or some other rear end. I know of a Sears model like that { free spirit } and it catches my eye in this bike shop here cause it looks old school. As for Bender: beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder when it comes to Bullseye pedals. I think they remind me of Suntours. As for Skipton: My friends used to shoot me at point blank range in the outer thigh with a high powered BB gun-leaving golf ball sized welts. Ugh.




Subject: Frames
Entered on: Jun 23, 1999 00:16
Entered by: DAN (bmxca43@hotmail.com)

Message:
I was selling a guy a Harley today and it came up that he was a bicycle builder. It also turned out he raced BMX for about 22 years! So at this point I got interested, we talked about bikes for a while and he mentioned he could build a replica of just about any bike I wanted. So I said I was working on a 26" Cook Bros project and he said he could copy the frame no problem. I wondered about the brake bridge but I think he could pull it off. So I'm going to go check out his place and talk a little more about making a frame. I imagine the cost will be pretty high but if someone was interested I may get him to do a small run of maybe ten frames. Please email me if this interest you at all. If this works out I'd like to do a 26" Champion replica as well. on the "bitch bar" bar subject, being a Harley guy for a while now I don't think I've never heard anyone refer to a "sissy bar" as that before. If people are wondering what it is, it's a back rest for your passeger. DAN




Subject: Chromoquad
Entered on: Jun 23, 1999 10:40
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
Hey gang...I have another frame I'm going to get rid of...this is a modern day one. I have a '98 Chromoly Quadangle in black...1 1/8" with Canti mounts. It was put together, and raced once...then disassembled. It's been hanging in my basement collecting dust ever since. I would be interested in cash, or trade for something interesting. Let me know if you're interested. This is my daytime email... jason.leikam@na.manpower.com




Subject: WELCOME TO THE THUNDER ROSE
Entered on: Jun 23, 1999 13:01
Entered by: SCooper (SKIPTON51)

Message:
Yo, mad props to my man Todd Britton for delivering the eccentric bb shell for the RRS project to Fleshpoint Raceway last night, as well as some o.g. Kuwahara adhesive gold. Todd also had photos from the "Cruiser Guy" in SD, who has some of the sickest 24s & 26s of all time (DG, Kuwahara, RRS, Floval Flyer, OM Flyer, Kawasaki BX 200 (20 inch of course--how rad would a 24 inch Kawasaki suspension bike be?). As for 24s, Todd made his racing debut last night as well and he and I battled to a 1-2 finish. Some other old friends came out of the woodward (most with their own kids), checking it out and talking about doing it. BMX is fully into it's second generation and father/son/daughter (where the fathers actually raced in previous lives)combos are going to be kicking it live. word.




Subject: WOODWORK TRAINING CAMP
Entered on: Jun 23, 1999 13:20
Entered by: SCidtown ()

Message:
I was just talking to my friend who teaches bike BMX freestyle at Woodward before that last post. I meant to write "coming out of the woodwork". Also, in reference to the posts regarding modern cranks, last year I bent my right Redline Flight arm and those things came loose every five minutes. Although the Flights I speak of were a couple of years old and single, not double, pinch-bolt models, I felt they were a sad imitation of the sacred originals (of course, those came loose as well). I guess what I'm saying is that either all modern cranks are weak or that I land way too hard or I weigh 30 pounds more than I did 15 years ago. Or "C", all of the above. Also, last night I stopped at michigan BMX pioneer Larry's house, where I drooled over his BD-III frame fork that he is considering setting up for his son. The BD-III was basically an FMF Jr. Pro painted tan with SE stickers, but regardless, one of the first ever SE frames, along with the JU-6. Larry also has a JU-6 frame, but he broke it last year (!!!) after 20+ years of use. Oh yes, BD=Breithaupt Design (downtube stickers feature his autograph) and JU=Jeff Utterback, right before he left SER to start GJS. The JU-6 had a gussett added to the head tube and became the.....PK Ripper. Everyone knows that though, right?




Subject: Cruiser Wanted
Entered on: Jun 23, 1999 14:18
Entered by: Jimmy (jimmygeske@hotmail.com)

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Speaking of cruisers, I would like to buy an early to mid-eighties cruiser. If anyone has any frame and forks that are in better than average shape-please let me know. I have cash waiting. I would prefer something from a common brand such as GT, Redline, etc. I also would like to find some blue or red 24" rims or wheels as well. Thanks.




Subject: Bullseye cranks & Hubs
Entered on: Jun 23, 1999 14:56
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx)

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Bullseye products are guaranteed for life (except bearings are not.) In 1993, I sent in a 1979 or 1980 vintage Bullseye rear hub shell that had come apart (the hub shells are 3 pieces pressed together.) They replaced it right away, and I wasn't even the original owner of the hubs. After talking with Roger Durham recently, I am sure that he would replace any Bullseye cranks that failed. Also, regarding the cranks' propensity to loosen, there is a modification that can be performed using a bigger bolt. I found it on the Interloc Racing Design website in Dec. 98 (IRD is an old school MTB company that designed some MTBs to use custom made 220mm long Bullseye cranks.) I don't remember the website address but if you want it, e-me and I will find it (I printed the page). Be forewarned, I don't know if this modification voids that iron-clad Bullseye warranty.




Subject: need trucks
Entered on: Jun 23, 1999 16:15
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx@hotmail.com)

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Anyone know where I can get some '80s vintage skateboard trucks? Is there a page like this one anywhere for boards? I need 150s - 160s in width, can be used but not used up. Also need mounting hardware. Thanks! Paul




Subject: Squeeky Rocks BMX
Entered on: Jun 23, 1999 16:27
Entered by: RandyS (groupd@softcom.net)

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I've seen everything now I can die in peace. I've seen the OLD SCHOOL BMX kneepads on E-Bay for the last couple of days but didn't care enough to look. I finally looked a couple of minutes ago. OLD SCHOOL bmx kneepads seen to be identical to the AXO ones that come with their pants. Considering that they have the new logo which they changed to in 97 the definition of OLD SCHOOL now seems to be 2 years or older. By the way some of the other OLD SCHOOL gems this person has include a Clodhopper frame which was a late 70s department store wonder & a Sears Free Spirit Monoshock frame. I'm all for profiting from the stupidity of others but this is getting out of hand. By the way, the current bid on the OLD SCHOOL kneepads is $26.00. Dealer cost on these is about $5.00. Retail $9.95




Subject: July SNAP, ABA Rockford Nationals and other ramblings
Entered on: Jun 23, 1999 23:20
Entered by: KO'D (kevin.odonnell@zdg.com)

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two things about the July issue of SNAP grabbed my attention ... of course, the photo of OLDBMXDC getting down to business with his careful final inspection of Redline Flite cranks as well as the rant of Wisconsin old schooler Ric Liskowicz (Lakesurfer@aol.com) in the letters column. Saw so many cool things at the Rockford nationals that it's sort of hard to re-cap here ... but to compact my thought as much as possible ... the KOD was insane. Dirt jumping is absolutely unbelievable ... bars spinning under hands off the grips while feet fly through the air inches off the pedals. Backflipping and spinning, twisting and turning into an incredible display of control and grace. The racing wasn't half bad either. From a skinny little kid on the then dominant HUTCH team to his current stature with the new NEXT team. Steve Veltman is still hooking it on and finding his way to the front on almost every gate he takes. His riding style is so on the edge that he rarely stays there though. Romero cleaned house which will likely make Chan stick his old school, nor-cal chest out and thump the nor-cal party line. As for other ramblings ... I'd just like to thank former SE Utterback frame rider, Ben Joy for putting his money where his mouth is for accepting my offer for his stuff which was probably 1/3rd what he would have gotten with e-bay. I now have two blue 1-3/8 NOS Cycle Pro snake bellys for trade ... along with 2 well used Sun Chinook rims. There are also some older DK hubs sitting in the basement if anyone is interested in having me lace up this wheel set. Finally, thanks to my buddy Jason for getting me to that national ... at 32 I'm still having a ball on a 20" bike ... weird, but somehow very rad at the same time. KO'D




Subject: miScELLaneous
Entered on: Jun 24, 1999 00:12
Entered by: Todd (kbritton@remc7.k12.mi.us)

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...begin rambling.....now...I too had Bullseye cranks, they never stayed tight, but they were a cool design....looking for trucks (as in boards, not monster) talk to Towne....As for Scott and his tweaked forks/cranks, I don't ever remember seeing you (or really anyone else for that matter) catching as much air in the old school racing days as you were last night over those second straight doubles!!!YEE HAH!!...so cut your parts some slack!!...I have some nos CyclePro 24" cruiser tires (two red, two blue) for $10 each or trade....also have one '96 Auburn CR20S frame to trade/sell...and I still need some ODI signature grips!!!...anyone have an old Skyway jersey?....finally, go out and ride at the track...you don't have to race (YET!)...BUT if you haven't been out to the track in a decade or two (like the two guys who showed up at the track the other night), I highly recommend it!




Subject: PART WANTED / PARTS TO TRADE
Entered on: Jun 24, 1999 12:00
Entered by: Wakeman (wake@qbp.com)

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NOS or near-perfect parts needed to finish project, cash paid or will trade, full or partial: Vintage cruiser bars (Mongoose or CW), stem (Cook Bros or Mongoose (gold or sil) or Tuf-Neck inverted or ? inverted stem, gold only), 20" 36h rims (Araya 7x or Ukai, gold only), Gold DX pedals. Have to trade NOS DX post in box, NOS 20x1.75 yellow Comp III's (2), NOS gold DX brakeset in bag, NOS ODI signature grips (Brackens, Hill, and?) in box, NOS Oakley 1&2s (twist my arm), NOS Schwinn King Sting fork, red(?), Pete's Precision sealed BB, NOS SE Quad pad camo. I really don't wanna sell, just trade. Also would love to buy or trade for pair of NOS or really nice motomags. Thank you, Wakeman (wake@qbp.com)




Subject: SE Helmet Stickers Wanted
Entered on: Jun 24, 1999 22:36
Entered by: Greg (Pigbeavis@aol.com)

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Looking to but any old SE helmet wing stickers.




Subject: Needed items
Entered on: Jun 25, 1999 10:36
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

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Needed: Yamaha Motobike double seat brackets and one front Motomag One (sandcast finish).




Subject: KOD
Entered on: Jun 25, 1999 11:42
Entered by: skiptor (SKIPTON51@AOL.COM)

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KODs post was so right on. I've got two years on him and I absolutely understand what he is saying. I love BMX. I ride my 20" bike almost every day and I think about BMX all of the time. Todd's post was awesome as well. Not the part about me (although that, of course, makes me feel great) but the words of encouragement for everyone to go check out a track. I can't even put into words how happy it made me the other night when two of my oldest friends showed up at the track with their kids. One of them, Tom, I hadn't seen in almost ten years, and he's been e mailing me about how stoked his son is about racing BMX. Larry, my other friend, already has the BD-III I rambled about earlier put together and his son and daughter are both super excited. On the vintage subject, the RRS should be completed today. The BB is in and I must say that modifying it to fit smoothly into the frame was almost as difficult as it was to find the damn thing in the first place. I do need some better pedals for it, however. If anyone has good pre-82 pedals in 9/16" (for three-piece cranks) let me know. I would also like to acquire a cleaner set of crank arms. Silver preferred. Oh, and I need some mid-70s forks for a prospective dream project that is hopefully coming together.




Subject: Yay - Patterson 240
Entered on: Jun 25, 1999 12:36
Entered by: Paul (retrobmx@hotmail.com)

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Got my Patterson 240 together this week (frameset from Darren - thanks!) I really like how it rides. Like it a lot better than the Powerlite S24 I used to ride. I did this cruiser in gold colors and I need gold brakes and levers to complete it. Used is OK. Will trade parts or cash. I'm always looking for Patterson pads!!!




Subject: Little SE
Entered on: Jun 25, 1999 12:58
Entered by: ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

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The JU6 was for Jeff Utterback (Natioanl #6) and the little bike was DBIII for Derek Brown number 3 (From Colorado I think). Was it DB3 or BD3?




Subject: early SE
Entered on: Jun 25, 1999 13:44
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

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Since it's the topic of conversation, here's what I know. Most people know that teh JU-Vi was the predecessor of the PK Ripper (named after Jeff Utterback, ranked #6, blah, blah, blah). There were 2 different JU-VI's. One with a round top tube, one with the floval. Neither had the extra gusset which was used when it became the PK. The DB-IV was named after Derrick Brown (ranked #4) and yes he was from Colorado. There was also the BD-3 (thanks for the Breithaupt Designs - I was wondering on that one) and the GH-Flyer (named for Greg Hill). Between those 3 they sorted out into the Mini-Ripper and Ripper models. And of course, the illustrious STR-1.




Subject: Roost NW?
Entered on: Jun 25, 1999 19:38
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

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Much to happiness, it looks like this old school stuff is starting to happen here in Oregon. Thanks to people like Ken Pliska (BMXNW.com) and several untimely injuries in the old guy classes, it looks like we may have a "Roost" type event here in Oregon. Darren and Dan, come on up! I'll let people know when a date gets firm, but there seems to be a growing interest.




Subject: GT Buckeye Nationals
Entered on: Jun 25, 1999 22:27
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

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Just got back from the first day of racing here. Didnt race myself, sure want to now though. Cannot believe the number of people here. I believe they had 90 motto's alone today. I'll try and find out tommorow but an average guess would be about at least 600 racers alone. The 28 & over gang was pretty low though. This park is jammed packed with people, we never ever drew that kind of crowd around here in my day. Havent seen not one old school bike or part yet though. Had I honestly known there would be this many people I would have taken a couple days vacation and set up a "ROOST" hospitality tent. Get a couple people to display some old school bikes and parts, get a grill and let the bs begin. Jason I dont know if you made it here or not, but I'll be walking around tommorow after work with a mailman uniform on. Danno




Subject: The last few posts.
Entered on: Jun 26, 1999 02:24
Entered by: STRIKE (gemtek@usa.net)

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The last few posts have been out of my league since I never raced (only freestyle). But I am getting the coolest vibe from this message board. Being as I started out memorizing all the stuff from '81 on up it is nice to be one of the "new schoolers" for a change. KO'D, skipton, Ben, Danno and especially Scott, I am learning so much by just reading. I have much respect for all of you. Scott, that whole JU-Vi, DB-IV, BD-3, GH-Flyer, STR-1 thing was really interesting.




Subject: lester rear wheel
Entered on: Jun 26, 1999 10:21
Entered by: Barry (robinchil@aol.com)

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Still looking for a rear 5 spoke "lester" mag wheel and original rear brakes to complete my landfill-found Mongoose. Can anyone help?




Subject:
Entered on: Jun 26, 1999 17:49
Entered by: oe800 ()

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how much did cooks bros cranks sell for baxk in the day?




Subject: SER
Entered on: Jun 26, 1999 21:46
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
I looked back at a picture I ahve of the first SE Mini and it is indeed a "BDIII". Scott is the most studied guy I have ever come across. Excellent! Funny thing is the bike in the picture was for photos and not heat treated, plus had a coaster brake and Caryle Agressor Front tire. Nice Mini! Man have they changed.




Subject: kuwahara?
Entered on: Jun 26, 1999 22:26
Entered by: Jason (hickorygrove@msn.com)

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I have an old bmx bike that i don't know much about. It has a cut out of a heart in the head brace. Does anybody know who could have made it.




Subject: Danno ... Rockford & ROOST
Entered on: Jun 26, 1999 22:58
Entered by: KO'D (kevin.odonnell@zdg.com)

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Danno ... you wouldn't find Jason at Ohio this week ... his former A-pro, now expert self got stuck racing me, a slightly above average 32 novice with good first straight pull at Oshkosh at a single pointer today. Unfortunately, there were three other experts in the class. Fortunately, Jason was gracious enough to take a seat on the third straight. A long way of getting at the fact that he didn't make it to Ohio. The ROOST tent at a national seems like such a good idea that you can pretty much write it in stone that we (the midwest ROOST dudes) will do something at next years Midwest Nationals in Rockford. Even if there are only a handful of vintage bikes in attendance ... it would be really cool to meet and greet between races, which can be a really long time as I was in moto 178 last Sunday !!! Jason was 180 !!! Strike ... seems like each day, I learn as much as anybody here ... this forum absolutely rocks. Also, very cool of the ABA to feature all past AA pro number ones in their current ad which is in the July SNAP ... a much better effort than their last. Keep ridin' KO'D




Subject: SE
Entered on: Jun 26, 1999 23:46
Entered by: pat (pquinnbmx@jump.net)

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Speaking of SE, did you guys realize that in 1978, while SE was screwing around with all those BD-III's and stuff, that there was no suitable SE bike for Stu and all the big dudes to ride. They rode Mongoose's! I've got a "Minicycle BMX Action" showing this 1978 tour and they all are riding Mongoose's, with the telltale "BMX" on the headtube. The article explains that they are working on designing a frame for the team. { STR-1 , PK Ripper, etc. } They also had red and yellow uniforms instead of the now familiar brown and light blue.




Subject: Nomura
Entered on: Jun 27, 1999 06:22
Entered by: Ian (arpolley@ar.com.au)

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I have been chasing up leads in regards a 26" Nomura and yesterday it finally paid off! I'm know looking at one of the fattest downtubes I've seen, complete with 26" on the front and 24" on the rear, DX peadals, Kos Kruiser bars, Uni seat, Oakley .5's, Takagi 1 piece, SR stem, Landing Gears, a fat Nomura top tube pad, racing jersey and downtube stickers. He used to be sponsored by Nomura (obviously) and even had a 20" in gold anodised but sold it a long time ago. After intense questioning by myself he still couldn't remember who he sold it too. Damn!! I'm going to keep trying to jog his memory. Anyone got any advice as to a good memory tonic??




Subject: Nomura part 2
Entered on: Jun 27, 1999 06:26
Entered by: Ian (arpolley@ar.com.au)

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Oh yeah, it also has yellow, orangs and red pinstrips on the chain-stays. Yeah baby!!!




Subject: SE and Mongooses
Entered on: Jun 27, 1999 10:59
Entered by: Geoff (gsebast1@airmail.net)

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Pat, I saw an early Skyway ad featuring the SE team and I noticed that they had SE stickers on the headtubes of Mongooses. Thought I was seeing things......




Subject: 4 SALE
Entered on: Jun 27, 1999 11:36
Entered by: Ric (lakesurfer@milwpc.com)

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Torker 24" w/ 2 profile chain wheels, Bell Rythym pro helmet(black/ med.) Fox pants blue and black size 34 but really fits 32, Fox gloves blue and black the good ones I forgot the name. Torker used/ raced only 3 times, gear used only 1 time. Must sell!




Subject: Nomura
Entered on: Jun 27, 1999 13:02
Entered by: Scott (sbender@btigate.com)

Message:
Ian the only working memory tonic is Grant & Franklin in heavy doses. It'll work every time.




Subject: GT Buckeye Nationals
Entered on: Jun 27, 1999 14:32
Entered by: Danno (danwolff01@yahoo.com)

Message:
Made it out there yesterday just as the last 2 mottos were going on. Pro cruiser and pro 20". Didnt go today because of rain, Jr. doesnt want to go sit in the rain. Still didnt see not one old school bike or part, a "ROOST" hospitality tent would have been an excellent idea, being as just about all the parents were my age. At Rockford we should definetly get something together, if I cant make it I have a couple bikes that could anyway, for show only of course. Show these "newbees" or "boots" where that $900 bike he's riding came from. Since I dont follow the new parts frames etc I did get to see some really nice new things, I think about every jr racer had the same bike, a mini powerlite with answer forks. It seemed as if a lot of the teens were riding redlines or gt's. Also didnt see 1 ripper, with the trend towards aluminum I thought I would see a few of them. The jr racers were biting the dust bigtime, this track is really just to "big" for them, they went and added 2 big jumps to what I thought was already a jump heavy course. The only place you can pick up real speed is 2 berms. Someone send me a "ROOST" symbol and I'll see if my buddy will make a bunch of stickers, Get a tent at some races and give out stickers and at least the kids will see what were doing. Danno




Subject: SER
Entered on: Jun 27, 1999 19:31
Entered by: Ben (Benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
When I started racing for SE we got 100% cro mo Mongoose frames that were chrome plated. The funny thing was while SE had no frames, I went over to Utterbacks and he and his Dad had this strange looking frame welded up (Early GJS). And Yes early SE was Red/Yellow JT pants with Bel-Ray Jerseys. Soon thereafter REed/Yellow Jersey, then thew whole earth tone thing. The Yellow/Red was a left over from the FMF days.




Subject: PK Rippers
Entered on: Jun 27, 1999 21:33
Entered by: Dave (hodgesiii@aol.com)

Message:
I am interested in any PK Ripper info or bikes from the early 1980's. I raced and streetrode in that period on a Redline MX II. There were a lot of bikes in Columbus back then, but there was no frame I wanted more than the PK Ripper ! It has been about 17 years since I rode but I would love to have one in my garage. Would be excited and thankful if anyone could drop me an e-mail. Stu Thompson was my man back in the day.




Subject: Please, be CAREFUL !!!
Entered on: Jun 27, 1999 22:26
Entered by: Kevin O'Donnell (kevin.odonnell@zdg.com)

Message:
Guys, I received an e-mail today from my new friend and fellow old school racer Ric Liskowicz. He's another of the guys like me that recently returned to racing as an adult. In just his fourth race back he was leading his cruiser main when everything went terribly wrong. While trying to clear a large, first straight, step up jump ... he clipped his rear tire on the lip of the upper tier and endoed hard. In the ensuing impact with mother earth Rick sustained an extremely serious back and neck injury. Thankfully, after a week in the hospital, Rick was able to return home, and although he has missed a long stretch of work, he expects to make a significant or full recovery. I just thought we all should remember that there are major dangers involved with this sport. Rick and I had a long discussion about safety stuff just two weeks before his wreck. I'm not going to editorialize this with my own opinions, but, it just seemed like something you all should know. BTW, Rick's message was the first I heard of the incident, which happened three weeks ago. KO'D




Subject: Highest Highs & Lowest Lows ...
Entered on: Jun 27, 1999 22:46
Entered by: KO'D (kevin.odonnell@zdg.com)

Message:
is what I should have called my previous post ... because I have just been sitting on cloud nine about BMX since Rockford. But that letter from Rick has really shaken me up. My wife was sitting with me as I read the message and was reading along with me. When we were both done reading it ... we looked at each other and it was the same look as last fall, when I had my own bad crash. It was a low point for sure. All we could think was go give our best wishes to Ric and his family. KO'D




Subject: ROOST Stickers
Entered on: Jun 27, 1999 23:50
Entered by: Bill (wds@bitstream.net)

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Danno, talk to your buddy & find out what format he needs the ROOST logo in (ex: Mac or PC), get as much info as poss. E-mail me w/ the info & I'll set you up w/ a copy. Also, if Three colors is too costly, we can adapt it to two-color.




Subject: Old School Suspension BMX Bike
Entered on: Jun 28, 1999 10:19
Entered by: Scott (smorrow@gbutler.com)

Message:
How many and what companies offered suspension BMX bikes in the early to mid 70's? I know the obvious, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Mattel, Webco and even the Huffy, but what others? Thanks for any information. Scott




Subject: General thanks
Entered on: Jun 28, 1999 10:32
Entered by: Scott (boyboy) (TripleRBMX@hotmail.com)

Message:
Thanks for all the comments on my posting. All I can say is that I'm well read. And pretty anal about my info. As for that frame with the heart shaped cut in the gussets. Sounds like a Shogun. I took a picture of one once and have it somewhere in my files. Couldn't tell you much about the company unfortunately. And when it comes to shocker bike, Dan in CA seems to know more about it than anyone I've met. Darren a close second.




Subject: Talkin' Roost!
Entered on: Jun 28, 1999 10:42
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
Hey...good to see people talking ROOST again. I guess it kind of fell off there after the get together in March. I've been working on getting someone to put up a site for us, but, as is normally the case, when you want something for nothing it usually gets put on the back burner when a paying customer comes in...and that seems to be the case here. I'll keep you posted to that end. Danno...Bill is right on the money with the sticker thing...he did the original logo and provided the art work for the jersey's and such. Stickers would be cool. Hey Bill.....Minnesota national coming up in early August...feel like hosting a mini-roost gathering? Also...if there is anybody out there well versed in web design that would like to help with the ROOST web page...please email me. We probably can't pay you, but you'll get all the gratitude in the world from us old schoolers. :-)




Subject: OH Snap!
Entered on: Jun 28, 1999 14:00
Entered by: Mike (michaelleonard@bmxnonstop.zzn.com)

Message:
Hey All. Check out the latest issue of Snap. There's a two page spread on Stu. Some great old pics(nice chrome Pro-line) of him racing and a neat article. Also included is a rider survey. Complete this if possible and request more old school stuff. Most of the questions are so corporate pigs can figure out how to sell us stuff. But some are in reference to mag content. I just answered questions to relay the interest in old school. The rest of the questions got answers that, well lets just say that they won't try to sell ME anything. Snap is a decent mag, and maybe they'll listen to the voices of 100 sceaming old schoolers and give monthly articles about the old days. Ride fast! Take chances!




Subject: Stuff I thought I sold but really didn't so here it is again
Entered on: Jun 28, 1999 14:23
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
Okay...I thought I had this stuff sold, but there were complications with the shipping process overseas and it turns out I still have this stuff...let me know if you're interested. Black Chrome GT frame and fork. The stickers are in good shape...the Black chrome is "fair" Some fading, some scratches. I'd like $30 plust shipping for the Frame and Fork. Torker 3 piece cranks (same as poverty/XS) Arms are in brand new condition, cups have been in a frame and punched out....looking for $70 plus shipping for those. Email me if you're interested.




Subject: Or....Paul!
Entered on: Jun 28, 1999 17:16
Entered by: Jason L (racefans@execpc.com)

Message:
Paul...you're from the Minnesota area too...how about you and Bill hooking up and hosting a ROOST thing? Just a thought...and a little public pressure. :-)




Subject: RRRRSSSS
Entered on: Jun 28, 1999 18:24
Entered by: towne ()

Message:
The RRS is complete! Full details tomorrow. I will say this, however: There is a reason that RRS bikes were only made for two years--they are a big fat pain in the ass to work on.




Subject: Motomags
Entered on: Jun 28, 1999 19:11
Entered by: Ben (benjoy@teleport.com)

Message:
I have a set of fully restored Motomag 2. They have been blasted to a new clean finish. Clear coated for dusrability, newly rebuilt hubs and have new Chen Shin tires/tubes (20x2.125). If you are interested email me. They looks new. I had them ready to go on one of my restores, but sold the bike. I spent $125 buying and restoring the wheels including the tires.




Subject: Roost
Entered on: Jun 28, 1999 22:48
Entered by: pat (pquinnbmx@jump.net)

Message:
Anybody interested in a Kuwahara freestyle bike? {Dark yellow/black parts}I saw one at a pawn shop for $69.99 today. Also saw a proline II or something from around 1983 -but- it has been spray-painted blue- but- they took care in leaving the vertical oval headtube sticker intact. It has the 5 inch headtube and the rear dropouts with the smooth welds that looks like a Sting. I think it is blue under the blue spraypaint. Anybody going to the San Antonio ABA world cup on July 15-18? I thought about trying to organize some kind of a roost-type get together but time is running out! I don't know how many old-schoolers are coming to my back yard of San Antonio, but I wouldn't mind having a swap meet in my back yard behind my house! Pat




Subject: Stuff
Entered on: Jun 28, 1999 23:23
Entered by: DAN (bmxca43@hotmail.com)

Message:
I have a n.o.s Skyway T/A xl that is up for trade. The frame has never even been painted and looks very cool in its raw state. It comes with a xl sticker set and forks. The forks are pretty beat but will work. This is a trade only deal so please no cash offers. It was going to be buil t up with Graphite tuffs but that part of the deal fell apart so I kinda lost interest. Please email with any potential trades. I also have a used Moosegoose f/f and a Supergoose frame both used but decent shape up for trade. DAN