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Subject: How old is my bicycle?
Entered on: Jul 21, 1997 08:37
Entered by: Menotomy Vintage Bicycles

Message:
How do you determine the age of a vintage bicycle? Serial numbers? Features? Tire size?




Subject: firestone
Entered on: Jul 22, 1997 15:31
Entered by: chad

Message:
I got an old Firestone bike. It was made by Firestone Tire Company. It has a rear flaredfender(chrome). It was orginally Blue and White.It is a boys bike. Has a bananna seat but not sureif it is orginal.(note: This bike is big it is bigger than every one of my vintage bikes. All 7 of them.)




Subject: Age of bike
Entered on: Jul 22, 1997 19:13
Entered by: Duane

Message:
I have a Royal Flyer girls bike. Has big ballon tires. Serial no.01446.Ser. no. located on post half waybetween seat and crank.Would like to find date of manufacture. Please send me an e-mail if you can help me.




Subject: "Thunderbird" bike - what is it??
Entered on: Jul 22, 1997 20:15
Entered by: craig

Message:
I have a black 60-ish bike; has "Thunderbird" on chain guard;top frame bars are opposite of what I normally see: TWO bars on top, ONE bar below. What is this thing? TIA.




Subject: Schwinn
Entered on: Jul 23, 1997 01:10
Entered by: Keith

Message:
I have a Schwinn Breeze anyone know the year?




Subject: HERCULES & TEXAS RANGERETTE
Entered on: Jul 23, 1997 16:58
Entered by: Geneva Z. Bailey

Message:
I have a beautiful pale blue Hercules (English made) bicycle I'm trying to find out the age. I believe it to be from the 60's. Also I'm looking for the age of my Texas Rangerette (believed to be from the 30's). Does anyone know how to research these two bikes? I'm also curious if the Texas Rangerette had ape-handles originally. ThanX, Geneva Z




Subject: age of Schwinn Breeze
Entered on: Jul 23, 1997 20:40
Entered by: Jodi

Message:
In the book Evolution of the Bicycle II (a book by the way I recommend highly) there is an add from a 1967 Schwinn catalog. There are two junior bikes listed as the breeze. You may want to give more info though as I'm sure there is a great possibility of the model existing before or after that.




Subject: English Bike dating
Entered on: Jul 24, 1997 12:16
Entered by: Menotomy Vintage Bicycles

Message:
Any English bike (Raliegh, Hercules, etc) or any other bike with a Sturmey-Archer rear hub will have a 2-digit date code on the hub.




Subject: firestone
Entered on: Jul 26, 1997 13:04
Entered by: chad

Message:
What is the age of a firestone bike with rearflared fender. has balloon tires. Orginally blueand white. please help me.




Subject:
Entered on: Jul 26, 1997 15:24
Entered by: roy

Message:
I have a 1959 or 60 western flyer, with basket, back flat rider, and battery light, doesanyone know how i can find a estimate of its worth.




Subject: Gold Mohawk Bike
Entered on: Jul 26, 1997 17:07
Entered by: Gwen

Message:
Free. I got it free you can have it free.Fairly good condition. A littlerust on the handles. Has a light, maybeballoon tires.E-mail for details. I am located inCollege Station, Texas




Subject:
Entered on: Jul 27, 1997 11:55
Entered by: carl

Message:
j.c. penny light wieght 5 speed yr. ?????????




Subject: bike accidents
Entered on: Jul 28, 1997 09:10
Entered by: leigh

Message:
if anyone has any bicycle accident stories...I would love to hear about them...I am collecting them ...please email me at towler@ozemail.com.au




Subject: German Bicycle
Entered on: Jul 30, 1997 15:55
Entered by: Duane

Message:
Looking for information about a bikethat looks like it's early 60's. A tagunder seat on post reads"Made In Germany"Half way down the same post is a semi-oval with an eagle facing out with itswings spread out,colored black.Over the eagle is printed PERFEKTUnder the emblem is written a word thatbegins with either an O or a Qualitat.The last a has two dots beside each otherover the top of it. Serial no.3742234is written on bottom side of pedalcrank housing. Fenders are sliver colorwith two grooves on the top of fendersthat are painted red, like a pin stripe.It's a men's 26 inch. Can anyone help me with date of manufacture, name of the bike,(badge is mising) and aprox. valuein restored condition? Please send e-mail




Subject: trade
Entered on: Jul 30, 1997 17:20
Entered by: Alden

Message:
I have a Columbia middleweight Rambler girls bike Bendix coaster brake I would like to trade for a Mossberg middle weight 2 speed coaster brakeAldlen j Durant50 Connor RoadPotsdam NY 13676




Subject: Serial Numbers - Please
Entered on: Jul 31, 1997 09:39
Entered by: jj

Message:
Can someone post a Schwinn serial number guide here? I know they are aout there somewhere. Also Columbia? Cleveland Welding? Anyone?




Subject: Firstone
Entered on: Jul 31, 1997 13:22
Entered by: Chad

Message:
Help me find out the year of a Firestone tires bike. The tire size is 2X1.75. Blueand White. Please e-mail me at 1Horvach@uvsc.edu.Help!




Subject: Firestone
Entered on: Jul 31, 1997 13:49
Entered by: Chad

Message:
The sproket on my bike has stars onit.




Subject: Triumph?
Entered on: Aug 2, 1997 00:40
Entered by: Lorraine

Message:
I have a "Triumph" bicycle that looks quite old. It says "Made in England", has several fancy "crests" stamped on it and is a 26" ladies bike. If anyone knows anything about this type of bike (ie. company, possible age, etc.) I didn't find any type of serial numbers on the bike. It is in good condition. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.




Subject: Firestone
Entered on: Aug 2, 1997 10:04
Entered by: Chad

Message:
The serial number on my bike starts with N104then I cannot read the rest.




Subject: Elgin
Entered on: Aug 2, 1997 18:44
Entered by: jim

Message:
I have an old Elgin 26" balloon tired women`s bicycle from the `40`s-`50`s.It is all original,except for the seat and front tire.The color is blue/white.The serial # is 223931.I would like to find out what year it is if possible.I think it maybe a war-time bike because of the lack of chrome.




Subject: Schwinn Dates
Entered on: Aug 4, 1997 10:43
Entered by:
Kath

Message:
Here's a list of Schwinn serial numbers I pulled off the web:

(CT = Cycletruck; WZ , S-10 = Whizzer; Tdm = Tandem. )
1948 D92598 - E67000 E670001 - E262108 11001 - 13398 WZ 1-3447 S-10
1949 F000100 - F31649 F321358 - F364549 S312650 - S321357G000100 - G003166 T001000 - T001217 Tdm F160598 - 163107 CT 5000 - 7408 WZ 3825 - 5986 S-10
1950 G003167 - G294890 G310130 - G318061 G335123 - G343221 G355966 - G531230 Z294891 - Z310129Z320777 - Z335122Z343222 - Z355965H000001 - H000666 5987 - 6244 S-10 G164355 - G165580 CT
1951 H000667 - H437160 A01370 - A87593 H166581 - H166580 CT H273273 - H437160 CT 6657 - 7738 WZ 7739 - 8110 S-10
1952 A87594 - A97867 B00001 - B99999 C00001 - C99999 D00001 - D66447 E00001 - E99999 F00001 - F99999 G00001 - G44000
1953 H60001 - H99999 J00001 - J99999 K00001 - K99999 A00001 - A99999 B00001 - B99999 C00001 - C99999 D00001 - D20266
1954 L00001 -L99999 M00001 - M99999 N00001 - N99999 P00001 - P17600
1955 P17601 - P99999 R01452 - R99999 S00001 - S99999 T00001 - T99999 U00001 - U56286
1956 U57805 - U99999 V00001 - V99999 W00001 - W93942 L00001 - L99999 M03569 - M25000 N25164 - N99999 P00001 - P25622 R25623 - R383161957 B18549 - B99999 C00001 - C99999 D00001 - D24842 7D24843 - 7D49811 7E00001 - 7E99999 7F00001 - 7F10609 R58261 - R61241 R66270 - R99999 S01400 - S47570
1958 8F10685 - 8F99999 8G00001 - 8G08079 8GL00001 - 8GL39400
New numbering system: First letter is the month; first digit is the year. D836694 = April 1958
1959 - A900000
1960 - A100000
1961 - A100000
1962 - A200000
1963 - A300000
1964 - A400000
New numbering system: First letter = month; second letter = year. I and O skipped to avoid confusion with one and zero. 1965 - AA00000
1966 -AB00000
1967 -AC00000
1968 - AD00000
1969 -AE00000
1970 - AF00000
1971 - AG00000
1972 - AH00000
1973 - AJ00000
1974 - AK00000
1975 - AL00000
1976 - AM00000
1977 - AN00000
1978 - AP00000
1979 - AQ00000
1980 - AR00000
1981 - AS00000
1982 - AT00000
This information was taken from The Bicycle Trader August 1996, The West CoasterMay/June 1991, and Collectable Schwinn-Built Bicycles by James L. Hurd.




Subject: Thanks. Now what about..
Entered on: Aug 5, 1997 08:44
Entered by: jj

Message:
Kath, thanks for posting the Schwinn date codes. Now, who has Columbia, Cleveland Welding, etc date codes?????




Subject: Triumph?
Entered on: Aug 5, 1997 12:48
Entered by: JimB

Message:
Triumph English 3-speeds were made by the same company that made Triumph motorcycles. Like all the English 3-speed manufacturers, they were acquired by Raleigh in the 1950's. If your bike is later than 1960, it was made by Raleigh. Check the Sturmey Archer hub to determine the date of manufacture. The Triumph bikes were similar to the Phillips and were considered inexpensive English 3-speeds. In the 1970's you could get one for around $59-79. Last fall, I completed restoration of a nice blue 1970 Triumph for my sister-in-law.




Subject: Elgin
Entered on: Aug 5, 1997 12:54
Entered by: JimB

Message:
Take a picture of your Elgin and send it to Chestnut Hollow (someplace in Ohio) and they will date it for you at no charge. They are also an excellent source for Elgin restoration parts and advice.




Subject: Texas Ranger
Entered on: Aug 6, 1997 22:20
Entered by: Leigh

Message:
I have 2 Texas Ranger bikes given to my brother & I back in the mid 60's to us by my grandparents. We kept them on the farm until 2 years ago. They were used when purchased, riden by many children since then & are still all original. Any ideas on the manufacturer?




Subject: TEXAS RANGER & RANGERETTE
Entered on: Aug 8, 1997 14:27
Entered by: Geneva

Message:
In response to the messages from Leigh (and Fran on another page) I too am looking for any kind of information on Texas Ranger or Texas Rangerette special bikes. So far I have found nothing. The antique dealer who sold me my rangerette says it dates back to the 30's. The bike is a beauty but rides like a beast. I would appreciate any information regarding the manufacturer, photos or dates. ThanX




Subject: shwinn
Entered on: Aug 11, 1997 16:10
Entered by: Dave

Message:
I have an old shwinn bicycle. It is probably 195-. I am not certain how old it is or how much it is worth. I can find no serial number on it, only something that says "Quality Chicago". It is in near perfect conditionand has original everything(chain, tires, saddle, paint) Any info would be helpful, like where to look for a serial number or where I can get more info on the subject.




Subject: what is it worth
Entered on: Aug 12, 1997 12:30
Entered by: Jaimee

Message:
My dad has gotten bitten by the bike collector's bug he just found a blue and whiteShelby Airflow....how can we tell how old it is and what it is worth? Any info is appreciated!




Subject: Re:shwinn
Entered on: Aug 12, 1997 19:40
Entered by: Jim

Message:
That`s Schwinn.And you can pobably find the serial # on the left rear drop-out(the place where the axle bolts to the frame).




Subject: Three speed shifter
Entered on: Aug 12, 1997 22:44
Entered by: Brandon

Message:
Please help me!!!!I recently purchased a bicycle at an antique store with a very unique shifting system. It is a black box located in between the right crank arm and the chain. The chain runs around a twenty tooth front gear and all of the shifting is done inside of this metal box. The box has two cables coming out of it that run to a grip shift style system. The unit was manufactured by the Dana Corporation. (A large maker of auto transmissions) Its patent number is 3.727.484. It was invented by Dennis Shea of Toledo, OH, and William Stoneman of Temperance,MI. It was purchased in Indiana, which is not far from where the inventors lived. It was produced between 1971 and '73. I am trying to find out if anyone has seen this before, noone I know has. Does anyone knwo anything about this? Incidentally it was attached to a 1945 monarch cruiser with springer fork and a headlight integrated in the front fender.




Subject: Re:what is it worth
Entered on: Aug 13, 1997 16:22
Entered by: Jodi

Message:
In order for anyone to give an est. of worth or year for the bike your dad found you need to give a description w/ as much detail as possible. Along with that condition is very important.




Subject: 1960's or early 70's apollo inherited
Entered on: Aug 14, 1997 02:46
Entered by: Sean

Message:
My grandfather recently passed away and among other things he had we found one was an OLD Apollo Bicycle complete with all decals, fenders, solid brakes (not cables I thought this was interesting), 3 speed, it seems to be about a 1965 but I don't know I was wondering if anyone might be interested in it everything is good except the tires(it has been sitting under an house in california for who knows how long no rust though) my grandmother was just going to give it to goodwill but I told her I would surf the net a bit and see if anybody collects these so if you do could you tell me what it's worth it's in excellent shape in every aspect except the tires are flat.Thanks!Seanplease e-mail me ateliter@hotmail.com




Subject: Schwinn Yellow Heavy-Duti
Entered on: Aug 15, 1997 15:41
Entered by: Mike

Message:
I recently bought a yellow mens Schwinn bike. Would appriciate any information on it. It's called Heavy-Duti. Made in Hungary. Fat 26" tires.Serial # HE804981located under the pedal crank. Thanks




Subject: huffy "daisy daisy" tandem
Entered on: Aug 15, 1997 22:16
Entered by: wayne

Message:
I have been given a mint condition huffy "daisy daisy" tandem, single speed. serial number 3h062955 If anyone can tell me the date of manufacture I would greatly appreciate it.




Subject: huffy "daisy daisy" tandem
Entered on: Aug 15, 1997 22:26
Entered by: wayne

Message:
I have been given a mint condition huffy "daisy daisy" tandem, single speed. serial number 3h062955 If anyone can tell me the date of manufacture I would greatly appreciate it.




Subject: peerless
Entered on: Aug 16, 1997 01:12
Entered by: marty

Message:
Have a 20" Peerless bike. Has odd tooth sprocket. Double sprung seat. Runs tubular tires on metal rims. Has "Morrow(?)" coaster brake. Original fire engine red paint.Value? Age? Source for 20" tubulars? Source for pedals?




Subject: Tyler bicycle
Entered on: Aug 16, 1997 18:06
Entered by: Mike

Message:
I have what looks to be a 1950s vintage 16" boys bike.The manufacturers label is Tyler, and says made in Poland.The bike has the "gas tank" top bar, original saddle, hi rise handlebars, and thewhitewall tires (also made in Poland). It's top "tank" and chainguard are red, the rest of the bike is white. Front and rear fenders are smooth chrome.I'm wondering if anyone has information on this make of bike, andcould possible give me a good date approx.ThanksMike




Subject: Tyler bicycle
Entered on: Aug 16, 1997 18:12
Entered by: Mike

Message:
I have what looks to be a 1950s vintage 16" boys bike.The manufacturers label is Tyler, and says made in Poland.The bike has the "gas tank" top bar, original saddle, hi rise handlebars, and thewhitewall tires (also made in Poland). It's top "tank" and chainguard are red, the rest of the bike is white. Front and rear fenders are smooth chrome.I'm wondering if anyone has information on this make of bike, andcould possible give me a good date approx.If so, please email me at wl7cju@skyenet.net.ThanksMike




Subject: age and type of bicycle
Entered on: Aug 17, 1997 09:25
Entered by: Paul

Message:
I have a Volkscycle Mark III bicycle. It has shimano shifters, Weinmamm 750 center pull brakes, lightweight steel tubular frame, generator and light and a nifty leather seat. I was wondering how old it was and was it considered a good road bike for its age? Would you know if it has any antique value?




Subject: How old is my JC HIGGINS?
Entered on: Aug 17, 1997 11:27
Entered by: Dave

Message:
I just found a JC Higgins (given to me by my father-in-law). I saw a picture of the 1948 Higgins on this site. Mine looks similar to that, but how do I know?The bike looks to be black in color with stuff like the tank and the chain guard being a burgundy color. There is a place on the front fender for a torpedo light. The fenders look to be burgundy too. It is terribly rusty, the tires are flat and the wheels do not look salvageable. I am looking for any suggestions. I do not plan to make the bike a full up restoration. I want a good old bike to ride every now and then. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks, Dave




Subject: CONTINUED: JC HIGGINS
Entered on: Aug 17, 1997 13:33
Entered by: Dave

Message:
By the way, the bike has a sort of book rack over the rear fender and has white markings on the tank and chain guard.The spokes are even rusted and the seat looks really bad. The springs underneath the seat are rusted together. The bike looks like it sat in a barn for 30 years and rusted.Please help! Don't have a clue what size. Doesn't have cable brakes. I think just pedal brakes. Maybe 25 inch?




Subject: What do i have
Entered on: Aug 17, 1997 18:34
Entered by: Matthew

Message:
I have an old Schwinn 20" tandum bicycle. I want to find out more aobut it and what it looked like when it was new. I am thinking of restoring it and need some technical help and info.Thanks




Subject: vintage Puegot
Entered on: Aug 18, 1997 18:16
Entered by: Kathy

Message:
I recently acquired an old bike of indeterminate age and manufacturer,possibly Puegot. The badge is missing. It's a mixte-frame, white withblack lugs and chrome fork, and a mustache handlebar with "BF stampedon the stem. Components are New-Star hubs, Mafac "racer" brakes andSimplex derailleur 5-speed with downtube shifters. It's got drop-outson both hubs and the tires still have metal valves. The bike stays andfork are also equipped with eyelets for racks or fenders. It used tohave a white pump, and still has pegs. Has the original leathersaddle, and nothing looks replaced. I don't really plan on selling,but would like to polish it up a bit and have some info. Any info isappreciated!




Subject: Age and value of bike
Entered on: Aug 18, 1997 20:15
Entered by: Belinda

Message:
I recently bought a colombia bike because it looked cool.It looks as though it might be of the 50's era .Everything looks original. Very slight rust on tank and very little any where else.Biggest flaw crack on light. It is burnt orange and has what looks like an airplane on front chrome fender that's black with a red and a green decoration. It' s a man's 26 six inch bike . Serial number R540770.And does anybody have a suggestion for books about colombia bikes?




Subject: RE: vintage Peugot
Entered on: Aug 19, 1997 09:39
Entered by: JimB

Message:
I just completed restoring my wife's 1968 Peugeot with chrome fenders, amber headlight, generator, and tail light. From your description, I would tend to doubt that yours is a Peugeot since they tended to put the "Peugeot" name all over the bicycle, not just on the headbadge. You might want to check out http://www.sheldonbrown.com/velos.html and e-mail Sheldon (page owner) for a positive ID of your bike. I can tell you that French bikes are beautiful and unique when restored. They are also rapidly appreciating in value as people recognize their beauty and uniqueness. People will stop my wife on the road to get a good look at her Peugeot. The only downside is even though the bike is restored to like new condition, the brakes and derailleur are still French 1960's low-end technology. This was prior to the Japanese entering the bicycle market and raising the quality barrier. The brakes make strange noises and the derailleur never works perfectly. These are just things you have to live with on a beautiful vintage bike.




Subject: Age and value of bike.
Entered on: Aug 19, 1997 09:32
Entered by: Belinda

Message:
Address added for request of info on Colombia bike. Thanks for any info.




Subject: Re: Texas Ranger & Rangerette
Entered on: Aug 20, 1997 17:07
Entered by: Jodi

Message:
The model I could find of the Texas Ranger and Rangerette were made by AMF Roadmaster in the late 1950's. The model I saw was blue and white with Texas ranger on the tank and chain guard. The sprocket was solid except for six star "cut outs". The bike also had truss rods, luggage rack, and a fender light.




Subject: Schwinn Starlett III ?
Entered on: Aug 20, 1997 19:43
Entered by: Sara

Message:
I just picked up an old schwinn ladies bike and I was curious what it's worth or what yearit is or if anyone has any info at all on it. The bike is a bit rusty but has all of it's parts.I can just barely read Schwinn Starlett III on it's side the serial number is HC43287. It is quitea looker! Thanks for any help!




Subject: Information on my bicycle
Entered on: Aug 21, 1997 13:11
Entered by: Dee

Message:
I just picked up an old bicycle and would like as much information on it as I can get. It has a tag on the front that says Hawthorne Montgomery Ward. Was Hawthorne the bicycle manufacturer? It looks to me like it is from the late '50's to early '60's. Any info would be appreciated.




Subject: Old Bicycle with name Cadillac on the front
Entered on: Aug 21, 1997 12:58
Entered by: Hakeem

Message:
I recently purchased a old bicycle with thename Cadillac on the front, it has wideFenders on both the front and back and alsohas a mud flap, it also has a basket on thefront, and wide "U" shape handle bars. Cananyone help to figure out the age, or whoto contact, because I would like to restoreit. Thanks a bunch. - Hakeem




Subject: Re: Schwinn Starlet III
Entered on: Aug 21, 1997 21:41
Entered by: Jodi

Message:
Schwinn carried the "Starlet" model for a number of years I have seen an add for the Starlet III model in a 1967 catalog. If the serial # is at the bottom of the left rear fork then this is probably the bike. Also the bike had a very slim tank and a light on the handlebars. There is a lot of information regarding Schwinn bicycles on the Schwinn home page, check it out.




Subject: Re: Cadillac
Entered on: Aug 21, 1997 21:44
Entered by: Jodi

Message:
Try checking the vintage bicycles for sale list here on Menotomy's site, they have a bicycle for sale called Cadillac given by dealerships as a promotion, could this be your bike?




Subject: RE: Cadillac and Hawthorne bikes
Entered on: Aug 22, 1997 09:36
Entered by: JimB

Message:
For information on the Cadillac, check out the Menotomy site. He has one for sale. Hawthorne was and is a brand owned by Montgomery Wards. They contraced with some bicycle manufacturer to make them under their brand name. Montgomery Wards and Sears sold millions of bikes up through the 1960's.




Subject: Old Raleigh 3-Speed
Entered on: Aug 22, 1997 09:39
Entered by: JimB

Message:
I just picked up a very old man's Raleigh 3-speed. It has rod brakes, Dynohub, front and rear lights, and a full chainguard cover. I tried to date it by looking at the rear hub, but all it said was "Patented". Can anyone help me with a year or decade of manufacture?




Subject: western flyer "' trophy"
Entered on: Aug 22, 1997 17:18
Entered by: gary

Message:
have a western flyer Trophy in completebut rusty shape. its been in storage for some time. any body want to make offer? thanks gary




Subject: My "Spaceliner"
Entered on: Aug 22, 1997 17:38
Entered by: Chris

Message:
Hi, I'm just getting into this old bicycle thing and it all started when i discovered this beautiful bike that was sitting in about two truckloads of branches and rocks. It had no wheels, but it was otherwise in pretty nice shape. Completely silver, except for a red rack in the back and a little bit of red on the chainguard where it says, "Space Liner". The most unusual feature, I think, is the frame design. Rather than having one main, top tube, it has four, spindly tubes that go completely uninterrupted from the front forks all the way to the rear hub. Of course, they kind of meld together at the back. Does this sound familiar to anybody? Does anybody have any idea how old it might be and whatever else. I found it in Windsor, ON (Canada) where I live. Maybe it's an oddball Canadian bike. Any thoughts or input would be welcome. Thanks. Chris.




Subject: Re: Spaceliner
Entered on: Aug 23, 1997 14:35
Entered by: Jodi

Message:
The bike you have was a model carried by Sears in the early 60s.




Subject: Dunelt Cycle Co. LTD.
Entered on: Aug 24, 1997 22:06
Entered by: Nancy

Message:
I bought this bike at a yard sale in Arizona for $25. The person who sold it to me said it is from England. I'm not a bike connouiseur (or a good speller for that matter) and don't know the correct terminology to describe it very well, but here it goes - it has fenders on both the front and back tires , it has a small (width wise) handle bars w/ white rubber grips, foot brakes, all black, a Dunelt Cycle Co. LTD. emblem on the front and on the frame, the seat says Rampar on the back, it looks like it could be from the 50's (but what do I know?) it's ridable but has quite a bit of rust on the fenders. I was riding it on the strand one day when a cyclist stopped me tn ask where I bought it. He said it's probably worth $1,000. I'm not interested in selling it I just want to know if anyone has any info to share with me - year, country, $, etc. - and if this guy knows what he's talking about. Thanks




Subject: RE: Dunelt Cycle Co. LTD.
Entered on: Aug 25, 1997 11:45
Entered by: JimB

Message:
Is this a three speed or a one speed? If three, check the rear hub for a date. Liik for something like "57 4" which means April 1957. Let us know what you find and we can probably give you more info on the bike. I just completed restoring a Dunelt.




Subject: YOU GUYS WEREN'T EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT HELPFUL
Entered on: Aug 25, 1997 20:21
Entered by: DAVE

Message:
I sent in a letter about an old jc higgins and nobody replied.You must be to good for my bike and I. Thanks for NOTHING!




Subject: POOP
Entered on: Aug 25, 1997 20:23
Entered by: Dave

Message:
Everyone else gets replied to in a couple of days. I've waited 8 friggin days for nothing.




Subject: Dunelt Cycle Co. LTD.
Entered on: Aug 25, 1997 20:50
Entered by: Nancy

Message:
Jim B., Thank you for your response. My bike is a one speed. I checked the back hub anyway and it says Sturmey Archer then under that SC, and under that 5. Hopefully you can tell me more by that info. If not, thanks for trying. Nancy




Subject: Re: No response
Entered on: Aug 26, 1997 01:14
Entered by: Someone who cares

Message:
Hey Dave you've got to be patient. JC Higgins is a tough brand to date and name a model, "why" you ask. Well unless you know every serial # for their bikes they're tough to identify. Usually they just go by size 20" 24" 26" back then. Hey if you just want to ride the bike fix it up to your own liking. Happy riding.




Subject: RE: Dunelt Cycle Co. LTD.
Entered on: Aug 26, 1997 10:15
Entered by: JimB

Message:
I e-mailed a message to you.




Subject: RE: YOU GUYS WEREN'T EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT HELPFUL
Entered on: Aug 26, 1997 10:25
Entered by: JimB

Message:
Dave, You don't seem to understand how this web page works. None of us are paid to answer questions here. We do it simply because we want to help and we enjoy doing this type of thing. Also, you should not consider this to be your only source of information. It is but one avenue of many to resolve your questions. I would suggest searching your public library and the web for JC Higgins. Also, send a picture to Chestnut Hollow and Memory Lane Classics and see if they can help. Your success in finding answers is dependent on you, not us. Speaking personally, I saw your posting and could not answer the question because of my limited knowledge of JC Higgin bikes.




Subject: RE: POOP
Entered on: Aug 26, 1997 11:36
Entered by: kath

Message:
Dave, as the person before me said, this is a bulletin board for people to ask and answer questions. None of us has all the answers. Did you send your question to Menotomy? Anyway, my suggestion is to clean up the paint (see the paint discussion at this web site). Then buy some new wheels and tires, a new seat, a torpedo fender light, and ride the bike! All of that stuff is for sale by Menotomy. Their prices on tires are a little high, but the rest of their parts are priced right. It is a lot of fun restoring/fixing/riding these old land yachts. kath.




Subject: Jim B.
Entered on: Aug 27, 1997 16:01
Entered by: Nancy

Message:
Jim - I didn't receive your e-mail. I re-entered my address for this message, please try again. Thanks, Nancy




Subject: Nancy
Entered on: Aug 28, 1997 08:48
Entered by: JimB

Message:
I sent the e-mail again.




Subject: SCHWINN TOWN & COUNTRY TANDEM
Entered on: Aug 28, 1997 12:34
Entered by: KEVIN

Message:
LOOKING FOR INFO ON SCHWINN TOWN AND COUNTRY TANDEM THE YEARS THEY WERE MADE AND HOW MANY MADE ALSO THE YEAR MINE WAS MADE SERIAL # T004311




Subject: Jim B.
Entered on: Aug 28, 1997 23:15
Entered by: Nancy

Message:
Jim- I still did not receive your e-mail. I have received other e-mail today, but not from you. I re-enterd my address again. The "at" symbol is inbetween the 7 and aol, but its not show here because my keyboard is old and freaks-out on me. It crosses keys and loses the symbols every so often. Anyhow, please try again. Nancy




Subject: Nancy
Entered on: Aug 29, 1997 09:04
Entered by: JimB

Message:
I sent the e-mail numerous times and it hasn't bouced back. Please send a message to Menotomy and have him forward it to me. I talk with Menotomy all the time. You might also try sending a message directly to me. I added my e-mail address to this reply.




Subject: J.C.Higgins dating
Entered on: Aug 29, 1997 16:54
Entered by: NBHAA

Message:
Regarding J.C.Higgins, National Bicycle History Archive of America can date ANY J.C.Higgins and we have serial records, but you would need to contact us directly since we seldom read bulletin boards.




Subject: Roadmaster
Entered on: Sep 1, 1997 19:56
Entered by: Stephen

Message:
I have a woman's roadmaster bicycle with a horn built into the upper frame What is its year and worth?




Subject: fred deely cycles ltd.
Entered on: Sep 1, 1997 22:49
Entered by: dylan

Message:
anyone ever heard of a "Deelite" bike by Fred Deely cycles ltd




Subject: Rollfast tandem bicycle
Entered on: Sep 3, 1997 16:55
Entered by: Earl

Message:
I have a tandem Rollfast bicycle that I got in a garage sale in New Jersey a few years ago. I fixed it up for my son, who is blind, and I to ride. It is single speed, has one hand brake in addition to the back peddle brake. Chrome fenders, luggage carrier. Does anyone have any I idea how I can determine the age and value of this bicycle?




Subject: identify a bike
Entered on: Sep 3, 1997 19:07
Entered by: Jeff

Message:
I was recently given a bike and I want to find out what it is and fix it up. Drop in for pictures at: http://www.rollanet.org/~spencer/jeff/bike/ Thanks, Jeff




Subject: INFORMATION ON VINTAGE BICYCLE
Entered on: Sep 5, 1997 01:15
Entered by: TONY

Message:
INFORMATION ON "RED" KLINE DINST, YEAR BUILT, MAKER, RESTORATION PARTS, ETC.




Subject: RE: Roadmaster and Rollfast
Entered on: Sep 5, 1997 09:06
Entered by: jj

Message:
Be sure to tell everyone the size that is written on the tires. This can help a lot in determining age!!!!!




Subject: RE: Indentifiying Bike
Entered on: Sep 5, 1997 09:08
Entered by: jj

Message:
That is a Schwinn. Probably a Fiesta or Breeze, from the late 1950s or sometime in the 1960s.




Subject: identifying my bike, take II
Entered on: Sep 5, 1997 09:54
Entered by: Jeff

Message:
Ok, So my ISP has been having problems and finally fixed them. If you dropped by to help me with my bike, you probably didn't see any pictures and got error messages. They've fixed it at least for now. Drop by http://www.rollanet.org/~spencer/jeff/bike/ and see the pix. Any info on age/value/where I can get literature/etc. would be greatly appreciated. --Jeff




Subject: Ben Hur bicycle info
Entered on: Sep 6, 1997 20:58
Entered by: Scott

Message:
Hello, Can anyone give me any info on Ben Hur bicycles? A friend of mine just bought one(very old) It was made in Indianapolis Indiana, but we know nothing else about it nor can find anyone who has even heard of them. ANY info will be appreciated! Thanks in advance. Scott




Subject: Re: Identify bike II
Entered on: Sep 6, 1997 22:29
Entered by: Jodi

Message:
After looking at the sprocket and rear hub I must say this really looks like a Western Flyer. I have a mens '63 Strato flyer and the styling as well as the parts I mentioned are the same. Western Auto put out a lot of bikes in the early to mid 60s in this style. If you have the book Evolution of the Bicycle I there are a bunch of ads for many of those models. Sorry I dont have even more info for you. I have really had a tough time getting any info or photos of my bike for reference. As for the decals you show my bike is all chrome finish so I cannot verify if they are from Western auto. Hey, anyone out there know who actually manufactured the bikes for Western Auto?




Subject: Columbia built Rambler
Entered on: Sep 7, 1997 17:40
Entered by: Charl

Message:
Where can I obtain information on the year of manufacture for Columbia bicycles? I have the serial number. Thanks for your help.




Subject: Re: Re: Identify bike II
Entered on: Sep 7, 1997 21:12
Entered by: Jeff

Message:
Thanks for the info Jodi. I also found that the bike has 'Sportcrest' on the chain guard. I've added it to the pix at: http://www.rollanet.org/~spencer/jeff/bike/




Subject: Re: Re: Identify bike II
Entered on: Sep 7, 1997 21:13
Entered by: Jeff

Message:
Thanks for the info Jodi. I also found that the bike has 'Sportcrest' on the chain guard. I've added it to the pix at: http://www.rollanet.org/~spencer/jeff/bike/




Subject: RE: identifying my bike, take II
Entered on: Sep 8, 1997 10:09
Entered by: JimB

Message:
I looked at the bike. Although I could not identify it, my guess is that it is from the period from 1958-1965. If it's a baloon tire bike (26 X 2.125), it's probably from early in that period. If it's a middleweight (26 X 1.75), it's probably post-1960. That's the best I can do.




Subject: Re: Identify bike
Entered on: Sep 8, 1997 14:47
Entered by: Jodi

Message:
Well Jeff with the new info I take back what I said about the bike being a Western Flyer. It seems many of the components are the same but after taking a good look at the chain guard I've changed my mind (a womans prerogative of course). I've seen pictures of B.F. Goodrich's Challenger and the sprocket is the same. Maybe someone out there owns one and can tell you if the hub is the same make. If I knew who actually manufactured the Western Flyers that would help because there is always a possibility Goodrich also used the same manufacturer. Just for further info the sprocket is also used on JC higgins but as far as I know they only had one model in the 60s like this called the Flightliner. Oh the possibilites, I just hope I have not added to your confusion. Good luck!




Subject: Help dating Columbia bike
Entered on: Sep 8, 1997 16:29
Entered by: Tim

Message:
Columbia Newsboy Special. s/n Q5272149 24" red bike with Bendix Tandem hub Can someone please help me date this bike? Also, any info on the tandem hub. Was it meant for tandem bikes, and just put on this bike to be "heavy duty"?




Subject: Jeff's SPORTCREST
Entered on: Sep 8, 1997 23:44
Entered by: NBHAA

Message:
What you have there is a bicycle built by Murray-Ohio company. It was built around 1962 (for more precise dating, send your serial number to National Bicycle History Archive of America http://members.aol.com/oldbicycle ). It is very, very definitely a middleweight and was private-labelled for a department store retailer, thus the SPORTCREST name.




Subject: Rollfast
Entered on: Sep 9, 1997 20:54
Entered by: charl

Message:
When did Rollfast cease production? I have a girls with tank which looks like possibly from the 60's. Is this the same company?




Subject: age/value
Entered on: Sep 12, 1997 20:40
Entered by: gerald

Message:
I have an old american flyer girls bike. There are two sets of number one set 2731 and the other 17624. This bicycle is possibly from the early thirties. Can someone help me confirm the age and approximat value. thanks




Subject: Sears
Entered on: Sep 15, 1997 22:40
Entered by: jay

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I's like to find out when my Sears bike was made. The # on it is 502462122268171. It is a blue women's bike with a rear rack and tires that say Sears "Crusader" (1.75). Can you please help?




Subject: Rollfast
Entered on: Sep 18, 1997 08:16
Entered by: charl

Message:
What is the year of manufacture for a Rollfast number C 214996? I think it's early '50's but not sure. Thanks.




Subject: RE: Sears
Entered on: Sep 18, 1997 08:53
Entered by: jj

Message:
Based on the tire width (1.75) it is probably 1958-1969




Subject: RE: Rollfast
Entered on: Sep 18, 1997 08:55
Entered by: jj

Message:
How wide are the tires? (1.75? 2.125?) Generally figure 1.75' = 1957-1970 and 2.125' = 1930 - 1957




Subject: Need Information On Speed King
Entered on: Sep 18, 1997 10:35
Entered by: Michael

Message:
I aquired a bike that is a look alike to the Sting Ray of the late 60's. Its a boys 20 inch, 3 speed. The decals say Speed King made in Japan. I would like to know if its worth fixing up (slight rust, needs tires, cables) the shifter works fine. Also what is the value, if any, so I don't waste money fixing it up. Anyway Its cool looking. Let me know




Subject: RE: Speed King
Entered on: Sep 19, 1997 09:02
Entered by: jj

Message:
I've never heard of 'Speed King', but if it has a stick shift shifter (a shifter on the top tube), I'd keep it. Tires and cables are cheap and easy to replace. There are some cheap and easy tricks to cleaning up rust and paint (see the Rust and paint discussions on this site). So for a few short bucks and a little time (which is usually enjoyable, unless you've got 10 thumbs and are prone to turning them all black and blue), you can get a cool-looking rider. As for value - the stick shift helps a lot. Maybe $150+ ??




Subject: RE Speed King / Power King
Entered on: Sep 19, 1997 11:17
Entered by: Michael

Message:
It a Power King not a Speed King. Hope to find some some info. thanks Michael




Subject: Info needed on Schwinn Flying Star.
Entered on: Sep 19, 1997 13:53
Entered by: Lance

Message:
I have just aquired a Schwinn Flying Star (Girls). Any information about it would be very helpful including value, parts availability, year made and any restoration tips. Thanks in advance, Lance




Subject: To Jaimee (195? Schwinn, Quality Chicago)
Entered on: Sep 19, 1997 16:01
Entered by: Roy

Message:
In response to the serial #, it should be located either on the headpost, the bottom bracket, or on the rear drop-out. In regards to the year of the bike, there is a book that dates your schwinn. A place called Memory Lane Classics, in Perrysburg, Ohio, that sells it. As for your question of value, mens bikes are generally worth more. If you have any more questions, you can write me at P.O. Box 39535, Rochester, NY 14604.




Subject: what make and year is my bike?
Entered on: Sep 21, 1997 12:26
Entered by: JERAD

Message:
I have an old red bike that i recently converted to a lowrider. The original paint is red and the serial # in on the rear dropout . It is a 20 inch frame that looks like a cantilever frame. It has two small holes on the head part that i assume are for the badge.when I received the frame it had all lowrider bike parts on it except all of the crank bearing set which had Schwinn on it .Any help would be greatly appreciated in identifying the make of my bike.




Subject: Woman's Hawthrone
Entered on: Sep 21, 1997 20:10
Entered by: hazlee

Message:
I have a woman's Hawthrone, blue and silver. Horn, head light, carrier with light, white wall tires small amount of rust on seat and chain. all original. Can anyone tell me about where it came from and what it is worth?




Subject: RE: JC Higgins
Entered on: Sep 22, 1997 08:15
Entered by: kath

Message:
Sears made JC Higgins bikes starting right after World War II and stopped make JC Higgins bikes around 1962




Subject: Motobecane Super Mirage
Entered on: Sep 23, 1997 13:10
Entered by: Ron

Message:
Motobecane Super Mirage. Trying to find out year it was built. I think the serial number is:339 1654 Not stamped very clearly on frame. Is this thing worth anything? Payed $65 for it. Average cond.