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Subject: More on the shift cables
Entered on: Nov 13, 1997 08:14
Entered by: JimB

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A few days ago I posted a note regarding the excess NOS Sturmey Archer shift cables I have. Last night I measured them and the plastic sheath is 17 1/2 inches long. There are two types -- smooth silver/grey and ribbed white. The overall length from tip to tip is approximately 55 1/2 inches.




Subject: Don't forget the BBC
Entered on: Nov 13, 1997 15:28
Entered by: Patricia

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I do not own any English bikes and I am impressed and slightly intimidated by ya'lls knowledge of these machines. I ran into a guy selling a not-British bike but I thought it might be a knock-off so maybe someone has some info. He said it was a late 40's Takai (Taiwan??) It had those hand brakes that extend the length of the handle bars (i don't know the term for them). It had a completely enclosed chain guard, which compared to 50's american chain guards, was quite large. It had a closepin (nomenclature?) seat and a very sturdy wicker basket in back. It was a large/tall frame (big enough for a 34" inseam and then some). The guy wanted $200 for it. It was pretty rusty. He said it was rare, but the guy was a salesman so of course he was trying to get his $200. Is it worth it? Is it rare? It sure was neat lookin'. I don't remember how many speeds it was. Any info much appreciated.




Subject: RE: The value of English bikes
Entered on: Nov 14, 1997 08:06
Entered by: JimB

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A bicycle is only worth what someone will pay for it. You should keep in mind that English style bicycles with enclosed gear rear hubs are the most prolific type of bike in the world. They were first made in the late 19th century and have been sold in the millions in one form or another in every former British colony and former trading partner. Keep in mind Britain was a powerful manufacturing and trading partner in the 19th century and the early 20th century. These bikes are still being made in England, Holland, Scandanavia, Asia (especially China), and Africa. In fact, they are considered "the family car" in China and Africa. What this means is there are hundreds of millions of these bikes someplace on this planet. Now most of us reading this discussion group live somplace in North America. The number of these bikes in North America is probably less than 1% of the total worldwide. Most of those in North America are concentrated in the 'rust belt' of the US and Canada because that's where most of the population lived when those types of bicycles were sold. The point I am trying to make is a specific type of 3-speed might be very rare where you live, but it's not rare on the world market. As prices increase, more of these used bikes located in cheaper areas are brought to high demand areas and sold for good money. That's why they will never be high-priced collectors items. As I said before, a bike is only worth what you are willing to pay.




Subject: and more comments
Entered on: Nov 14, 1997 18:41
Entered by: Kevin

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I have really enjoyed the discussion regarding the merits (and demerits) of English Three Speeds. I am a middle aged guy who has been "playing" with bicycles for years. I have only been THINKING about bicycles since I got on the net (recently) and began reading some of other people's comments. I find the bicycle community to be as "fad" driven as any other. Twenty years ago I provided amusement to the some of my friends who were driven by ten speeds and tire width measured in fractions of an inch when I mounted a five speed tandem wheel (internal drum brake) on a Schwinn frame fixed up two caliper brakes in front and another in the rear (2.125 tyres of course). Four brake levers on those steerhorn handle bars along with thumb shifts. (I wanted to ride in the hills of So. Arizona and my road bike wouldn't do.) Now nearly everyone with more than one bicycle has at least one mountain bike. (most all of which are better than my Schwinn was) Attempting to get back to the point I want to make. If you want a mountain bike - get one. If your goal in cycling is measured in grams don't buy an English Three Speed. They are not Beach Cruisers either. Most bicycles have their place and for many that place is a specialized one. The very reason these bicycles (three speeds) will not preform specialized taskes as well as specialized bikes is the very reason they are great bikes. They are versitile. I believe they will work well for 90% of the riding many (90%?) of us do 90% of the time. I can use a specific bike when I want to do a specific task, but I can (and like to) use my "general" three speed for general tasks. I have invested ("invested" is what I tell my wife)hundreds of dollars in a couple of my bicycles and still most often get out a twenty five year old Raliegh when I ride for pure pleasure. By the way any of you know the Colin Laing the frame builder? I ran into him a week or two ago and got to talk English cycling with him for nearly and hour. A real gentleman and a store of information!




Subject: FS: Raleigh tourist bike
Entered on: Nov 17, 1997 10:33
Entered by: DJD

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For sale to best offer: Raleigh DL-1 tourist w/rod brakes and 28" wheels, early 1950s; 24" c-t. Frame was repainted and all parts rechromed about a year ago. Full chain-case; rear dyno-hub. Wheels and tires are new & unridden. New brooks saddle with spring at each corner. The bike is very plain looking: gloss black with a couple of thin red & gold pinstripes, "RALEIGH" on chaincase in small letters. Everything has been renewed down to the brake linkage bolts; this is for all intents and purposes a brand new bike. It is surplus to our needs. Pls. advise if interested. I have no idea what this is worth, and will likely simply take the best offer.




Subject: Britstuff and Philsh
Entered on: Nov 17, 1997 13:30
Entered by: dave

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What a great and lively discussion philsh began with his message about the British 3 speeds and their perceived deficiencies. As to Lucas electrics, I've owned and raced Limey sports cars going back to 1962 and can tell you that in all those miles and all that time I have had exactly one Lucas coil go sour. That is the total extent of my Prince of Darkness "turn-offs" and even at that the car got me home with the failing coil.English cars do require more maintenance than the average Ford but they give it back to you in driving pleasure. The bikes are very undemanding and ask for a bit of oil in the proper places now and then. JimB is also right in stating that they have their limitations: they can't climb Vermont hills like a lightweight 10 speed. There's an old English saying that puts it best: Horses for Courses.But I also heartily agree with Sheldon Brown who has asserted that these bicycles may well outlast us all. Oh, and speaking of Shimano gears: I don't believe Sturmey-Archer ever had to have a massive worldwide safety recall on one of their products as Shimano just did. As for the poor downtrodden workers at Raleigh, I still have the guarantee tag that came with my 1941 Club Sport which prominently states that Raleigh Cycles have been built by trade union labout for 25 years. That would put it back to 1916, wouldn't it?




Subject: Britstuff and Philsh
Entered on: Nov 17, 1997 13:33
Entered by: dave

Message:
What a great and lively discussion philsh began with his message about the British 3 speeds and their perceived deficiencies. As to Lucas electrics, I've owned and raced Limey sports cars going back to 1962 and can tell you that in all those miles and all that time I have had exactly one Lucas coil go sour. That is the total extent of my Prince of Darkness "turn-offs" and even at that the car got me home with the failing coil.English cars do require more maintenance than the average Ford but they give it back to you in driving pleasure. The bikes are very undemanding and ask for a bit of oil in the proper places now and then. JimB is also right in stating that they have their limitations: they can't climb Vermont hills like a lightweight 10 speed. There's an old English saying that puts it best: Horses for Courses.But I also heartily agree with Sheldon Brown who has asserted that these bicycles may well outlast us all. Oh, and speaking of Shimano gears: I don't believe Sturmey-Archer ever had to have a massive worldwide safety recall on one of their products as Shimano just did. As for the poor downtrodden workers at Raleigh, I still have the guarantee tag that came with my 1941 Club Sport which prominently states that Raleigh Cycles have been built by trade union labout for 25 years. That would put it back to 1916, wouldn't it?




Subject: WTB: dyno-hub light
Entered on: Nov 17, 1997 19:19
Entered by: David

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Does anyone have a front (or front+rear) light for a Dyno-hub system in good condition that they would sell? Pls. advise. Thanks.




Subject: 1955 Raliegh Sports
Entered on: Nov 19, 1997 14:16
Entered by: Joel

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I have a 1955 womens Raliegh Sports for sale or trade. This is an original bike in good condition. It has all the original equipment including, dyno-hub, headlight, battery tube, taillight and pump. About the only thing I can see missing is the taillight bezel. I am always looking for trades for balloon parts. If anyone isinterested give me a call @ 906/428/9131 after 4:00 est. Thanks- Joel.




Subject: Labor and Raleigh
Entered on: Nov 21, 1997 21:11
Entered by: MarkA

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Just a point of clarification. I think it's important. My ideas about remembering the conditions of labor at Raleigh were simply to combat the all-too-easy erasure of labor in every commodity and its reinscription as an idealized past. Yes indeed, the workers were unionized at R. (they must of had it easy, huh?) and the steel workers at Sheffield were too, as were the miners who dug ore. I would only caution that "take it easy" responses to any critique of the (past) conditions of labor (such as "they wish they had those jobs back now") is the kind of foreclosure of discussion I was driving at . Such responses also support a false glorification of a imagined conflict-free and corporate past. The present has no connection to the past and a bicycle is just a bicycle???? If that's not damaging nostalgia, I don't know what is.




Subject: Socio-political Gobbledy-gook
Entered on: Nov 22, 1997 11:05
Entered by: johnB

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This site is about bicycles. Everyone here likes bicycles. We like to ride bicycles. We like to work on bicycles. We like to restore old bicycles. We like to talk about bicycles. We don't care about the plight of Sturmey-Archer hub polishers in the early '50s. If you want people to scratch their goatees and nod knowingly while you spout your left wing rhetoric, try the Utne Reader Cafe.




Subject: JohnB and MarkA and Raleighs, labor, and politics
Entered on: Nov 22, 1997 14:19
Entered by: Russ

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Yes, this site is about bicycles and the people who ride them. No, separating them from the time and place where they were built is not left-wing gobbledy-gook rhetoric. The point about turning the past into pure nostalgia is a good one, for another reason. Bicycles should be more than collectables, more than toys, more than a leisure time plaything. There are few machines more noble than a bicycle, and the social effects they generated between 1890 and 1910 in this country were astounding. A conflict-free past? Life is never conflict-free. At the same time, though, there are some conflicts that are better than others, and there are some ways of life that are better than others. Some of them happen to be in the past. This is not nostalgia. Now, a true lefty would sneer at me and say, "you're just trying to return to a time that never was." Anyone saying that can go and tell that to those European guys in the 14th and 15th centuries who looked back at Greek and Roman culture and said, "Things were better then. What can we reclaim from the past that works?" I am no expert on labor history or its conditions. I do know, however, that the laborers who built these bicycles we love, like the men and women who built Gibson guitars in the 30s and 40s, like many people working before WWII, knew the value of honest labor. And honest, manual labor that produced things was once greatly valued - unlike today. Work was once in and of itself of value to all social classes. I know when I straddle an old lugged-steel frame bike, French or English, that she'll get me where I'm going and back again, because somebody whose name I will never know believed in doing the job right - simply because that was the ethic of the time. I wish I could say that of modern bikes, but I really can't. FWIW, I happen to loathe UTNE reader, gushing sincerity and trendy social movements of people who CARE (gag!) just as much as I have come to despise rampant consumerism and the idea that all technological change is progress. Enough. I'm gonna go ride my bike now. And the UTNE reader is just so saccharinely SINCERE it makes me need to go ride my bike to get over my nausea.




Subject: belaboring the issue ......like it or not .......
Entered on: Nov 22, 1997 22:02
Entered by: calvert

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the history of bicycle-building labor is also part of bicycle history & i'm not allergic to it....anyone who is can of course scroll down.....markA's reverencial nod to the workingman's contribution wasn't inappropiate and his notes on brit conservative politics (did you mean "Thatcherism")were news to me.......................................................so, does anybody out there have any raleigh delivery bike parts?




Subject: Sturmey Archer Hubs For Sale
Entered on: Nov 23, 1997 20:31
Entered by: Bob Marshall

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Just landed about 75 SA hubs-dynahubs plus cables,3 speed shifters and dozens of top bar SA stick shifters. Let me know your SPECIFIC needs, Some are NOS




Subject: Denelt 4 Sale
Entered on: Nov 24, 1997 20:35
Entered by: Bob Marshall

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Have very early S/N 47 Denelt ladies coaster brake Pilot in gold in beautiful original condition. Asking $125 plus shipping




Subject: mm cycles ltd
Entered on: Nov 25, 1997 17:31
Entered by: Elvis

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I have recently purchased a used MkM bicycle. It is an older 10 speed with reynolds tubes and campy compoments. It was built in Harrogate England. Is there anyone out there who can tell me anything about this brand. I'm very intersted.




Subject: back
Entered on: Nov 26, 1997 09:10
Entered by: JimB

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I'm back after being offline for a week. This file has really gone from a repair/restoration discussion to a political soapbox. I guess everyone has completed all the restoration projects and there is nothing left to talk about. :-)




Subject: Tourist parts
Entered on: Nov 26, 1997 12:28
Entered by: Tim

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Hi folks, Political stuff over now? I need a set of 28" Mudguards (Fenders) for a 24" (28" wheel) Raleigh Tourist that I am restoring. Tried the UK but either received no reponse or got some REAL crazy prices. Any help or being popinted in the proper direction would be appreciated. Thanks Tim




Subject: Mudguards
Entered on: Nov 26, 1997 17:37
Entered by: johnB

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Tim, check the archives of this area for a bike shop in Philly that specializes in Brit bikes {it's a non-union shop, though...}.




Subject: In search of a roadster FRAMESET ...
Entered on: Nov 27, 1997 10:32
Entered by: Russ

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Does anyone, perchance, have an English roadster frameset for sale? I have acquired a parts-grade ladies' frame 28-in wheel Raleigh (I won't know which model until it arrives) and would like to switch the componentry to a men's frame. Some of you have received individual pleas for this, but still ... any ideas? Thanks! This bike, incidentally, will be a serious rider more than a restoration. I had a '77 Tourist once which was my all-time favorite bike ever. Everytime I rode it I would think of Flann O'Brien's novel The Third Policeman and Ireland.




Subject: WANTED
Entered on: Nov 27, 1997 13:06
Entered by: LARRY

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WANTED TO BUY RALEIGH DL-1 TOURIST




Subject: WANTED
Entered on: Nov 27, 1997 13:07
Entered by: LARRY

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WANTED TO BUY RALEIGH DL-1 TOURIST




Subject: NOS RALEIGH TOURIST CHAINGUARD
Entered on: Nov 27, 1997 23:04
Entered by: Bob Marshall

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Offers being accepted for this pristine black guard with red and gold graphics-STILL IN ORIGINAL BAG!!!!




Subject: NOS RALEIGH type vinyl saddle bags
Entered on: Nov 27, 1997 23:06
Entered by: Bob Marshall

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Large black new saddle bags with 3 attachment straps and double straps to close bag. Not leather but these look great on any Brit tourer. $20 each---2 for $35. Have about 15 left




Subject: Tourist mudguards
Entered on: Nov 29, 1997 07:38
Entered by: Tim

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JohnB That would be Via bike I guess. Non-union shop though....?? I don't know. Last time I was in the UK, the railroads were striking over which member of the train crew was going to put the tea bags in the pot and who was going to put up the kettle. I have received 2 phone calls from guys over in the UK who I sent letters to. Both said they would send over info re: mudguards and especially decals or transfers. Nothing as of yet and it has been 2 weeks. Did get a response from a fellow who wanted 40 pounds for a set of transfers for a Tourist! A little steep me thinks. Tim




Subject: A Mighty Churchill
Entered on: Nov 30, 1997 22:13
Entered by: george

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I have a "Churcill" english 3 speed that my sister bought used in 1958. It runs fine. The rims are a bit rusty, but otherwise it is certainly ridable. Alas, there is no more room in our stable. If someone wants to give this old steed a home, drop me an e-mail. I (and more imoprtantly, it) am (is) located in eastern MA north of Boston. It deserves more than a final ride in a crusher, but its time is running out...




Subject: RE: A Mighty Churchill
Entered on: Dec 1, 1997 15:54
Entered by: JimB

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I collect and restore old English 3-speeds, and I am located in your area. Let's talk by e-mail to arrange for me to pick it up if you still have it. Chances are if I get it, it will end up 100% restored and ridden.




Subject: New Web Site
Entered on: Dec 2, 1997 09:30
Entered by: MartinH

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This is the official announcement of the opening of my new bicycle web site. Please stop by and check out some English roadsters. Any and all feedback is welcome. http://beagle.biology.yale.edu/~hanczyc/toppage.html




Subject: Raleigh 3-speeds
Entered on: Dec 3, 1997 22:20
Entered by: Jim

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I have a pair of Raleigh 3-speeds, (a men's and a ladies), that I would like to find the year they were made. The serial #'s all start with AF. I believe they maybe somewhat old. They have an enclosed chainguard, rod brakes. And in the owners manual, it says to clean the paint with vegetable oil to shine them. Any info would be helpful. Thanks.




Subject: new zealand
Entered on: Dec 4, 1997 02:48
Entered by: claudia

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hi all--i just returned from a month in new zealand where i saw many many MTBs and very very well used raleigh 3 speeds. am happy to say at the very end of my trip i purchased the last in the bike shop of a very geeky hard shell bike bag that the kiwis (not the MTB sort) attach to their rear carriers. virgin vinyl with white piping and matching leather buckle closure. the inside is a kind of cardboard. mine is blue and white, but i spotted red/white and black/white. definitely for the well used no frills raleight geeser rider. first on my block to have one and glad.




Subject: Dates of your 3-speeds
Entered on: Dec 4, 1997 08:17
Entered by: kath

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Based on the "Raleigh date codes based on serial number" link at the top of this page, I'd say it is a 1961. You can also look for a 2 digit date code on the Sturmey-Archer rear hub.




Subject: HELP!
Entered on: Dec 4, 1997 11:31
Entered by: Bernie

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I have an old English woman's bicycle, it's a 3-speed Hercules made in Nottingham England and it looks to be anywhere from 30-50 years old, if anyone can help me to identify it's age and value, please contact me




Subject: JimB
Entered on: Dec 5, 1997 00:56
Entered by: Tim

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Hi JimB, Wanted to wish you a happy Turkey day but can't find your E-mail address. Keep ridin'. Tim




Subject: Bernie
Entered on: Dec 5, 1997 09:20
Entered by: jj

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Read the message that appears right before yours. Kath mentions 2 methods for finding the year. As for value, well, that depends (partly) on the year!




Subject: PEDALS
Entered on: Dec 8, 1997 16:37
Entered by: joe

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I do not know if my 15 year old Mercian Road bike falls into this catagory but... It has strong/light cranks and the treading for the pedals is slightly smaller than that required for switching to clipless pedals. Has any one out there faced this challenge and if so, how? Thanks, Joe




Subject: John Bull Pads
Entered on: Dec 10, 1997 12:20
Entered by: Jim

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Looking for John Bull brake pads. Need rubber pads and metal holders...new or used. These are for a 1969 (hub date) Robin Hood. Funny, but have noticed several post about Robin Hoods which were a budget (?) line from Raleigh. I can't see much difference in it and a similar vintage Raleigh except for the rims. The frame and most parts are exactly the same and quite a few parts have a Raleigh stamp. Got to admit the Robin Hood motif is kinda cool. Thanks in advance and really enjoying what I'm reading on this list!!!




Subject: Budget lines, etc.
Entered on: Dec 10, 1997 17:50
Entered by: Russ

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Jim's comment about Robin Hoods vs. Raleighs reminds me of how much more impressed I was with the workmanship on my '63 Rudge Sports than I have been with Raleighs. Don't get me wrong - I love the old heron crests just fine, but the fork crown on my old Rudge was a work of art, to my eyes. Aw, Geez, I get misty-eyed over that one. If you're living near Toledo, OH, and you find a 21-in. black Rudge with a Dynohub front and no saddle, let me know.




Subject: Sticker Removal
Entered on: Dec 11, 1997 09:35
Entered by: Jim

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Anybody know an EASY way to remove those pesky metallic "bicycle license" stickers?? Lighter fluid is generally a good sticker remover, but it won't penetrate the metallic surface of the license to loosen the glue. There's gotta be a better way that the long, slow, painful peel job I went through last night. HELP! Jim




Subject: RE: Sticker Removal
Entered on: Dec 11, 1997 11:39
Entered by: TimH

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I've found that applying heat from a hair dryer will soften the glue that holds self-adhesive stickers making them easier to remove. Its still a job though, be patient.




Subject: Sticker and decal removal
Entered on: Dec 11, 1997 13:32
Entered by: jj

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Nail polish remover.




Subject: 1978 Record
Entered on: Dec 11, 1997 13:13
Entered by: Matt

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I recently got a 1978 Record. I know that the record was a low end bike, however it was made with 531 butted tubing and has campagnolo drop-outs. Was this a bit excessive for an entry level cycle. The frame/forks are in team colors. Is this something different than what I think? It's a nice ride regardless.




Subject: Fleet Wing
Entered on: Dec 11, 1997 19:14
Entered by: charl

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I recently bought a 3 speed [Sturmy Archer]Fleet Wing bicycle at a garage sale for $1. I know nothing about this brand, but it had a Persons siren on it and I had to have it. Now I'm interested in the bike itself. Any suggestions on where I can look for information on this bike? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.




Subject: Raleigh Record
Entered on: Dec 12, 1997 08:35
Entered by: kath

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I thought the Record was a high-end bike in the late 1970's ?




Subject: Rod brakes and interchangeability
Entered on: Dec 12, 1997 23:14
Entered by: Russ

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Okay, y'all ... a puzzler. I am about to build a Raleigh Tourist up out of two incomplete bikes. I will have two front stirrup brakes and no rear stirrup. Are the front and rear stirrups the same with the exception of the length of the hollow rod that threads directly onto the top of the arch on a brake stirrup? I am sorely tempted to take one of the rods to a machine shop and have it shortened and rethreaded to work for the bottom bracket fitted rear brake - UNLESS somebody has a rear stirrup or hollow rod they wish to sell or trade.




Subject: FS Raliegh DL-1 NIB
Entered on: Dec 15, 1997 12:39
Entered by: Joel

Message:
For sale Raliegh DL-1, rod brake, still in box. Never opened! We estimate the year of the bike somewhere between the late 60's and early 70's. $1000.




Subject: RE: Rod brakes and interchangeability
Entered on: Dec 16, 1997 16:12
Entered by: JimB

Message:
I checked on this last night and it should work. The front stirrup is fancier because it shows more than the rear. It is also slightly longer on the stirrup section in order to clear the front fender (The rear stirrup goes directly under the bottom of the rear fender, and does not need to clear it). The hollow rod is definitely longer on the front, so you would need to have that cut to size and rethreaded for the top loop piece. The attachments to the brackets that mount to the frame seem to be the same. You will not need the special holders for the brake pads as seen on the front stirrup. Just fasten the brake pads directly to the stirrup. Overall, you can make it work. The only downside is a front stirrup used on the rear will be so long it will probably interfere with the kickstand. You don't need one anyway.




Subject: UK, Veteran Cycle Club
Entered on: Dec 16, 1997 16:58
Entered by: Tim

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Well folks, I've sent out about 20 letters to the UK re: rdstr parts. To date, I've received 4 returns. Not too good. One I got though was from the Veteran Cycle Club. They sent along an application for membership so if you would like one, E-mail me and I will send a copy along. If you would like to write directly... The address is... Mr. Geoff Paine 31 Yorke Road Croxley Green Rickmansworth Herts...WD3 3DW England (nice UK address, eh?) I also have a letter from a David White who sent along a list of marque specialists listing some 60 names. Let me know if you would like a copy. Maybe some of these guys will return a letter. Some very interesting maeque names on here. VCC membeship is 25.50 pounds a year. Tim




Subject: Price
Entered on: Dec 17, 1997 01:00
Entered by: Larry

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Jim B. Please email me your prices on the various parts you have offered, in particular white ribbed cable. Thanks, Larry




Subject: Brooks/Wallingford
Entered on: Dec 17, 1997 13:24
Entered by: JimC

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Just wanted to rave about the fine service I received from Wallingford Bicycle Parts (www.wallbike.com). They specialize in Brooks saddles and I ordered a B66 from them last friday and it arrived on tuesday as promised. The owner Bill Laine was super nice on the phone and his advertising stress the importance of patronizing your local bike shop before resorting to mail order. They do have used Brooks saddles from time to time and also carry ESGE mudguards and Carradice bags. I could only wish other mail order outfits were as easy to deal with. Highly recommended!




Subject: JimB's parts
Entered on: Dec 17, 1997 14:35
Entered by: JimC

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Jim B. - I'm also interested in your cables and also and white ribbed housing you might have. Please e-mail any information. Thanks!




Subject: Brooks/Wallingford
Entered on: Dec 17, 1997 18:23
Entered by: Matt

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Just wanted to say I have had equally positive experiences with Bill at Wallinford. He was very helpful on a wide variety of subjects.




Subject: Wallingford
Entered on: Dec 18, 1997 09:35
Entered by: Dave

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Add me to the list of Wallingford fans. Their service on buying some Proofide from them was superb. The big mail order outfits could take lessons in customer service from this shop.




Subject: Raleigh Sport Touring bike for sale
Entered on: Dec 18, 1997 17:52
Entered by: Dale

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I have a Raleigh Sport Touring bike in fair condition that needs a good home. It looks like early, mid '50's; 2030 steel frame, the 3 speed, fenders, head light extra generator hub, etc. I have no idea of its value and would take any reasonable offer. dseeds@acs.wooster.edu




Subject: Wallingford
Entered on: Dec 18, 1997 18:02
Entered by: claudia

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I have bought 2 brooks saddles from wallingford and it was a joy dealing with a small company that loves its product. one of the saddles was for my mounain bike which was recently stolen. really the only thing i miss about that bike was the saddle!




Subject: Welker
Entered on: Dec 18, 1997 20:11
Entered by: Ken

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Anyone have information on this English bike from the late 60's? Or, when I bought it then the salesman said it was english. Thanks.




Subject: Fleet Wing
Entered on: Dec 18, 1997 23:56
Entered by: Sheldon Brown

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charl wrote: "I recently bought a 3 speed [Sturmy Archer]Fleet Wing bicycle at a garage sale for $1. I know nothing about this brand...Any suggestions on where I can look for information on this bike?" Fleetwing was a house brand of the Jordan Marsh department stores, headquartered in Boston.




Subject: Raleigh NOS Fenders
Entered on: Dec 19, 1997 13:24
Entered by: Randy

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I have a few pairs of fenders for a Raleigh Sport. I think green red black and blue. These are like brand new. I also have a green rack for the same bike. I think the rack is the same one that you'd see on a Raleigh Superbe. If anyone needs this stuff please email me.




Subject: Brooks B-72
Entered on: Dec 20, 1997 20:51
Entered by: Randy

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I have a few Brooks B-72 seats. They have never been used and are in very good shape. I believe they are from the 70's or early '80s. Anyone interested?




Subject: Sekking Information on "Robinhood" of Notingham
Entered on: Dec 22, 1997 21:40
Entered by: Guy (toyfreaks@isd.net)

Message:
I am neither a bicycle colletor nor aficionado. [YET!] But I just found a bicycle which I mistook for a Raleigh. It turns out to be a "Robinhood" and the logo looks suspiciously like Raleigh's and they were also made in Nottingham. Can anyone shed some light on my discovery?




Subject: Robin Hood
Entered on: Dec 22, 1997 23:25
Entered by: Sheldon Brown (CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com)

Message:
Robin Hood was a second-level Raleigh model; not top-of-the-line, like Raleigh, Rudge and Humber, but the next step down. The frames were basically the same as the top line models, but they didn't have the fancy fork crowns, and had Endrick rims (lighter, but not as strong as the Raleigh Pattern rims on the top models.) They also usually had mattress saddles, instead of Brooks leather saddles. You can read more about bikes of this sort from my Web site...check out: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/english_3_speeds.html




Subject: Phillips and Rudge Chainguards
Entered on: Dec 23, 1997 16:50
Entered by: Randy (hirelevl@mindspring.com)

Message:
I have quite a few NOS chainguards in assorted colors. Please email with interest.




Subject: Brooks Racks (carriers) OLD
Entered on: Dec 23, 1997 16:55
Entered by: Randy (hirelevl@mindspring.com)

Message:
I have two old Brooks bike Racks (carriers) for English 3 speeds. Very dusty but in great condition with Brooks decals. Please email with interest.




Subject: 28 inch Wheel (Raleigh) NOS
Entered on: Dec 23, 1997 16:59
Entered by: Randy (hirelevl@mindspring.com)

Message:
I have one NOS front wheel. It is a 28" wheel from a Raleigh bike.I beleive its the type used with rod brakes. It has a Sturmey Archer hub. Please email me if interested




Subject: 3 speed Wheel Sets for Raleigh or Schwinn
Entered on: Dec 23, 1997 17:11
Entered by: Randy (hirelevl@mindspring.com)

Message:
I have four sets of wheels which were never used. They all have Sturmey Archer 3 speed hubs. They are 26x1 3/8 and are from the early 70's




Subject: Dynahub and complete light set
Entered on: Dec 23, 1997 17:23
Entered by: Randy (hirelevl@mindspring.com)

Message:
Have NOS 32 hole Dynahub and lights. One front light and one rear light. Also have bracket to fit front light on to stem and wires etc. Please email if interested




Subject: Raleigh Sprite 27 Five speed
Entered on: Dec 23, 1997 17:24
Entered by: Randy (hirelevl@mindspring.com)

Message:
Have this bike in the same color as the "add message" button. It is in near pristine condition except for a small area on the top tube where I tried to touch-up a scratch and failed miserably. This can easily be remedied by someone who cares to match the color more carefully than I. I would be open to trade or sell. Has huret gears . Sturmey Archer rims. 40 spokes in rear. 32 in front. Brooks mattress saddle. Original tires (match the paint). Pedals show no sign of wear. Rides beautifully. Pretty sure its a 23 and one half inch frame. Very funky aviation style handlebars. Excellent decals.




Subject: Sturmey-Archer gear oil
Entered on: Dec 23, 1997 23:13
Entered by: AlanB (beymer@cell2000.net)

Message:
I have a 1971 Raleigh Superbe and a nearly-empty can of Sturmey-Archer gear oil. At the time of purchase the Raleigh dealer said any other oil would clog the shifting mechanism. Is there a source, or substitute, for the S-A gear oil?




Subject: Randy..
Entered on: Dec 24, 1997 08:51
Entered by: PeterW (longtruck@aol.com)

Message:
Randy, you are gonna get a lot of email!! That 28" wheel will be interesting. Are the chainguards full case?




Subject: re: Sturmey-Archer gear oil
Entered on: Dec 24, 1997 11:03
Entered by: JimB ()

Message:
I use 30W Castrol in mine.




Subject: F/S Raleigh Shop Sign
Entered on: Dec 26, 1997 09:01
Entered by: Ray (Wheelman1) (Wheelman1@msn.com)

Message:
Have F/S early 70s Raleigh bike shop sign. It is red, white and blue and lights up. It uses a glass panel in the front with a fluorescent light inside . It says Raleigh Bicycles and has a detailed silhouette of a Raleigh ten speed bicycle on it. I am asking $110 including shipping. E-mail with your requests for more info or desire to buy. Ray (Wheelman1)




Subject: Raleigh identification page
Entered on: Dec 26, 1997 12:10
Entered by: Sheldon Brown (CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com)

Message:
I have a new page-in-progress on the various running changes in specification and equipment of Raliegh-built 3-speeds. I'd welcome additional data points. Check it out at: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/raleigh.html




Subject: Sturmey-Archer Oil
Entered on: Dec 26, 1997 12:15
Entered by: Sheldon Brown (CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com)

Message:
AlanB wrote: I a nearly-empty can of Sturmey-Archer gear oil. At the time of purchase the Raleigh dealer said any other oil would clog the shifting mechanism." This allegation is utter sales B.S., a bald-faced lie on the part of the salesman. Any decent medium-weight oil wil do just fine, but stay away from 3-in-One, and anything that comes in a spray can. My favorite is Phil Wood Tenacious Oil. Check our my page on Three-Speed Parts at: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris_three.html




Subject: Raleigh - Men's and Women's Circa 1946
Entered on: Jan 1, 1998 10:37
Entered by: Lee (netrics@ids.com)

Message:
I took 2 sets of numbers off the seat post of the two bicycles. Perhaps someone can give me an indication of when they were built and what their value is based on a good to very good condition. Thanks




Subject: Raleigh - Men's and Women's Circa 1946
Entered on: Jan 1, 1998 10:48
Entered by: Lee (netrics@ids.com)

Message:
I took 2 sets of numbers off the seat post of the two bicycles. Perhaps someone can give me an indication of when they were built and what their value is based on a good to very good condition. These are 3 speed bikes with 27" wheels and they are black. The numbers are "AJ8202" on the men's bike and "AE27227" on the ladies bike. Thanks




Subject: Warped gearcases
Entered on: Jan 2, 1998 13:07
Entered by: MartinH (martin.hanczyc@yale.edu)

Message:
Just to follow up on a question I posted a while ago: Two of my English bikes with full gear cases have this same problem: the right crank rubs against the gear case etc.... Here are two solutions: Lean the bicycle against a pole or similar object such that there is a constant pressure pushing the gear case away from the crank space. After about a week of doing this when I was not using the bike, the gear case moved back to its proper position and no more rubbing. Remove the right pedal and use a pipe to bend the crank just a tiny bit so that it clears the gear case. This latter suggestion is quick and VERY easy so be careful not to bend the crank too far. I would like to say thanks to both David and Sheldon who post here for their suggestions.




Subject: Wanted: Sturmey Archer Parts
Entered on: Jan 3, 1998 22:24
Entered by: TimH (timh@market1.com)

Message:
Need the following Sturmey Archer parts, desparate for K4xx and K8xx series parts and HSA137 and HSA149. K427AZ K807ZA HSA149 K804/K804A HSA136/HSA137 K505A HSA117 K527 HSA116 K401/K401A HSA144/HSA145 K426 K58 HSA112 GL612A GL316 GL333 K526A HSA163 K512 HSA119 K64 HSA120 K413 K414 K402 HSA139 GL540 HSD316 Please contact timh@market1.com




Subject: Great British Bike Weekend
Entered on: Jan 4, 1998 16:41
Entered by: Bob Hufford (bhufford@mail.orion.org)

Message:
Saw this on the rec.bicycles.soc newsgroup (wish I could go) ... NEWS FROM MICHAEL McGETTIGAN/Trophy Bike The Great British Bike Weekend. Philadelphia, PA, Fri., Sat & Sun. April 3,4 & 5th, 1998 Come to Philadelphia, the "Cradle of Liberty", to celebrate that most practical of two-wheelers, the British roadster-style bicycle. A gathering for owners of classic and not-so-classic "English Racer" bicycles, and all other British-made bikes: Raleigh, Rudge, Robin Hood, Dunelt, Triumph, Moulton, etc. Featuring: rides and rallies, a Bike & Pub Crawl, Brit Bike Swap Meet and more. Including: Morning rally and ride through historic old Philadelphia. A bike-on-rail excursion to Chestnut Hill and Germantown. The second annual British BIKE & PUB CRAWL. A show of unusual British bikes. A Brit Bike Swap Meet. Bring that unusual piece, or find the bits you need to complete a bicycle restoration. A Sunday Ride and pic-a-nic. A Sturmey-Archer three-speed hub workshop. Unlock the mysteries of epicyclic gearing. $25 REGISTRATION FEE INCLUDES map and admission to all events, T-shirt with reg. by March 1. make checks payable to Michael McGettigan 627 S. 27th St. Phila. PA 19146 SWAP SPACE STILL AVAILABLE --CALL McGETTIGAN 215-719-4669




Subject: Hetchins
Entered on: Jan 5, 1998 00:07
Entered by: John Good (Jgood2522@aol)

Message:
Wanted Hetchins frame 1960/70 56/57cm (curly)




Subject: Lee,
Entered on: Jan 5, 1998 09:12
Entered by: jj ()

Message:
There is a Raleigh date code chart near the top of this page.




Subject: RE: Raleigh - Men's and Women's Circa 1946
Entered on: Jan 6, 1998 10:55
Entered by: JimB ()

Message:
I have a Raleigh men's bike with a similar serial number to yours -- AJ55002. The bike is clearly earlier than the 1960's that are stated under the date codes I got from Raleigh. According to the rear hub, it should be late-1930's. The problem is there is a gap between 1937 and 1947 on the chart. Your bike and my bike probably falls within that gap in my opinion.




Subject: Bike show & swap
Entered on: Jan 6, 1998 13:38
Entered by: DaveB (davehmn@sover.net)

Message:
Happy 1998 everyone! Does anyone out there know the date for the bike show and swap held in Charlestown, Mass. each year? I believe I heard it was in April but beyond that I've come up blank. Thanks for any info you can share.




Subject: Info on Hercules Lion
Entered on: Jan 7, 1998 02:50
Entered by: Robert (moffett2@erols.com)

Message:
I just got a pretty nice Hercules Lion, and I'd like to find out the age and anything else I can about it. It was made in Birmingham,and bears the ser.# 4673. It's a 26" wheel, cable brake bike with a Hercules type 2 hub. It looks good, and rides fine,but has the wrong saddle and rear fender. Does anyone know what saddle it needs? Was the rear fender so distinctive that a Raleigh or other make would look wrong? I'd appreciate any input on this. Thanks, Robert




Subject: Rear brake stirrup
Entered on: Jan 7, 1998 10:30
Entered by: Russ (rfitzger@emeraldis.com)

Message:
Greetings, gang! I am seeking a rear brake stirrup for a 28-in wheel roadster. If, by chance, anyone happens to have a set of fender braces for a 28-in Raleigh Superbe they wish to part with, do let me know! Thanks, Russ.




Subject: Uk address, Raleigh
Entered on: Jan 7, 1998 16:35
Entered by: Tim (EMGEETD@aol.com)

Message:
Hi folks, The following is taken from the pages of the VCC in the UK. The Raleigh marque enthusiast for the VCC is: Roger Blakeley at 17 Pinewood Ave, Whittlesey, Cambs, UK. PE7 1UG I received a lovely letter from him re: parts etc. There are other addresses available for many different marques thru the VCC. VCC address is: Geoff Paine, 31 Yorke Rd., Croxley Green, Rickmansworth, Herts, UK. WD3 3DW Have fun.




Subject: Shipping
Entered on: Jan 8, 1998 21:47
Entered by: JimC (jcole@msuvx1.memphis.edu)

Message:
Anyone have any experience with shipping a bike to the States from England. Just wondered what it might cost. There's a chance I might be visiting there this year and would like to possibly find a cool old roadster. Thanks!




Subject: Rod Brake Raleigh 1969 For Sale
Entered on: Jan 9, 1998 08:59
Entered by: Bob (703)569-5240 VA (kbsiegel@juno.com)

Message:
1969 Rod Brake Raleigh For Sale 28" Wheels, Mens, $55 plus shipping. Contact Bob (703)569-5240 email kbsiegel@juno.com




Subject: light unit info.
Entered on: Jan 11, 1998 20:54
Entered by: Boomer (boomerads@aol.com)

Message:
Howdy fellow bike people-Im a balloon tire and Stingray collector so Im a little limited on the English stuff...anyways Im going to a swap meet in March in Seattle and I want to trade or sell a Raleigh Dyno-Luxe headlight,tail light,and battery tube.The graphics are close to perfect and the whole piece is overall great shape...anyone no what I should ask for it?THANKS in advance. Boomer




Subject: Bike & bits for sale
Entered on: Jan 12, 1998 10:55
Entered by: Dave (davehmn@sover.net)

Message:
Just cleaned out a long-closed bike shop of its English roadsters and used parts inventory. Brands include Armstrong, BSA,Dunelt, Humber, Raleigh, Norman, 3 Spires, Robin Hood, Triumph, Phillips, etc. Condition ranges from quite restorable and/or rideable as-is to quite deplorable.Have both men's and women's; majority are 26", a few 24's; most tradiational diamon frame but a few drop frames. Also got a fair amount of used wheels, S-A gearsets, a few lights, dynohubs, n.o.s. mudguards and braces, crank sets, etc. All used, except for the mudguards so operating condition is unknown. I haven't been able to inventory this load yet--I just moved it and put it in storage for the winter. Come Spring I'll have more info but meanwhile, if you write me by snail mail with your wants or interests I'll give you first crack if I have it. Earliest postmark gets first chance on wants/needs/desires. My snail mail address: Britbikes, Box 2183, Manchester Ctr., VT 05255.




Subject: Raleigh Sprite 5 speed c. mid 1950s (?)
Entered on: Jan 12, 1998 11:50
Entered by: larry (westbury@impulse.com)

Message:
A friend has this bike which is a dark olive green with all the original equipment (even the tires and saddle bag). He just wants to clean out his garage. Is there anyone who would want this bike or should he just trash it?




Subject: Raleigh Time Line
Entered on: Jan 12, 1998 23:42
Entered by: Bob Hufford (bhufford@mail.orion.org)

Message:
I haven't been to the official Raleigh site in a while. They now have a small time line with history and some graphics. Check it out at: http://www.raleighbikes.com/heritage.html




Subject: Raleigh time line
Entered on: Jan 13, 1998 08:09
Entered by: MFeeney ()

Message:
I hope it shows the Chopper! I'm going there now.




Subject: 1/9/98 message: SOLD Rod Brake Raleigh 1969
Entered on: Jan 13, 1998 19:21
Entered by: Bob (Sold-refer for message on 1/9/98)

Message:
Rod Brake Raleigh 1969 Was SOLD




Subject: AMF Hercules
Entered on: Jan 15, 1998 23:24
Entered by: Rick (trowbrid@netexp.net)

Message:
I saved a nice 3-speed AMF Hercules from a trip to the city dump a couple of weeks ago and have since disassembled it for a repaint. I would like to get new decals/transfers for it, and any info anyone might have about this bike. It's dark green metallic, with white trim. Age?




Subject: AMF Hercules
Entered on: Jan 16, 1998 08:49
Entered by: jj ()

Message:
For age, look for a 2-digit date code on the rear Sturmey-Archer hub. AMF made Hercs in the 1960s. Decals, I dunno. But there is a lot of info on Hercs here and in the archives listed at the top of this page. You can search for herc info using your web browser's 'find' key.




Subject: RE: AMF Hercules
Entered on: Jan 16, 1998 11:56
Entered by: MartinH (martin.hanczyc@yale.edu)

Message:
I was under the impression that Raleigh manufactured Hercs in the 60's. There was some arrangement that allowed AMF to slap their sticker on the Hercs. I believe there was a similar arrangement with Raleigh-made Armstrongs and the Ross bicycle company. I could be wrong about this stuff, but that is what I have gathered by checking out the bikes made in the 60's as well as talking to other English bicycle fanatics...




Subject: Larry with the Raleigh Sprite
Entered on: Jan 16, 1998 20:14
Entered by: Bob Hufford (bhufford@mail.orion.org)

Message:
Larry with the Raleigh Sprite. I'd like to save your neighbor's bike from the dump. Please e-mail me at Deluxe64@aol.com or the address above. Your e-mail keep bouncing.




Subject: Rod Brake Ride!
Entered on: Jan 17, 1998 14:10
Entered by: Bob Hufford (bhufford@mail.orion.org)

Message:
I purchased my first rod-brake English roadster ('78 Raleigh) last year, but had not ridden it due to a two flats (the rear had the valve, but no tube !?). I finally found the time to work on it today (in the living room as the wife was out of town). I also installed a Raleigh ding-dong bell I found on a similar vintage women's Raleigh at used bike shop. Taking my first ride was a thrill! It was so smooth! The shifting was crisp and accurate, the Brooks saddle was a luxury, and the bell (as well as the sight of a 265 man on a retro bike) brought smiles to the few neighbors who were out enjoying the unseaonably warm weather. I had a blast! I may park the car permanently ...




Subject: seat bags
Entered on: Jan 18, 1998 00:55
Entered by: claudia ()

Message:
All my bikes now have groovy brooks saddles But does anyone know where to get bags that attach to those great slots on the back of the saddle. Although, the saddles are so gorgeous, one hates to hide those chrome springs.




Subject: Touring Saddle Bags--NOS for sale
Entered on: Jan 18, 1998 09:34
Entered by: Bob Marshall (kalsea@marshplan.com)

Message:
Have still in pkg,black vinyl with black leather straps (5)-2 for "door" and 3 for mounting. Steel plate inside for strength.Very well built-$20 or $35 for 2-plus $5 shipping




Subject: Seat Bags
Entered on: Jan 18, 1998 13:07
Entered by: johnB (johnburt@mailexcite.com)

Message:
For Carradice seat bags try www.rivendellbicycles.com




Subject: Help!
Entered on: Jan 19, 1998 02:43
Entered by: Greg (ggroth9@xsite.net)

Message:
I was scrounging around the basement junk pile at the bike shop I used to work at and came across an english Hercules. I was hoping to find some info about it. Perhaps trying to date it. It's a single speed, with a flip-flop hub, fixed and freewheel. the freewheel, cranks, and hubs are stamped hercules, made in england. The brakes are cable acctuated. The rear is not original, the front is chrome stamped steel and has no anchor bolt, the cable is one piece. Any info anyone could send me would be most appreciated.




Subject: Rudge-Whitworth
Entered on: Jan 19, 1998 08:41
Entered by: Richard (Rozinante@webtv.net)

Message:
I have a 1947 Rudge-Whitworth,I do not want to sell it,but I would like to get any info on it. It is a mens 3 spd with front hub generator lighting system.It is in good original condition,I bought it from a gentleman that said he brought it home after WW2, Please respond to Rozinante@webtv.net Thanks Richard




Subject: 26x1 1/2" tires
Entered on: Jan 20, 1998 01:07
Entered by: Greg (ggroth9@xsite.net)

Message:
I was checking out the archive from november looking around when I found a post from people looking for 26x1 1/2" tires. My expertise is in schwinn bikes and I know that on their tandems they used this size. (I was working on one, threw away the tires, only to find out they were an oddball size, and the tire hadn't been made in years). It just so happens that this was the first year that schwinn had contracted with the china bicycle company to manufacture their "frontier". This bike came with 26 X 1 1/2" tires that were the same size as the old style. I believe the old rims were S-4, I'm not sure of the diameter. The tires were only available in gumwall knobby. I don't know if tires are still available, but the bike was made from 94 to 95. Some schwinn dealers should still have tires out there, I hope this has been of some help.




Subject: f/s
Entered on: Jan 21, 1998 01:04
Entered by: CALVERT (CYCLETRUCK@AOL.COM)

Message:
**************************************** ENGLISH sports **************************************** 1962 DUNELT men's 21" diamond frame 3spd, red, gold & chrome, xlnt/orig cond.......$100 **************************************** CANADIAN **************************************** 'teens CCM 24" wheel size, just the truss frame (like the iverjohnson), lugged construction & fork & two NOS 24" US Rubber single tube tires.....$125 Email me or for the fine details call me @ 816/363/4418 eves or weekends.....




Subject: RE: Rod Brake Ride!
Entered on: Jan 21, 1998 16:37
Entered by: JimB ()

Message:
Bob, Congratuations on getting the Raleigh rod brake bike going. I went doen last night and sat on my Dunelt. Alas, the roads are covered with snow here, so I couldn't take it out.




Subject: Raleigh Nottingham Today
Entered on: Jan 22, 1998 08:52
Entered by: Bill (Wakers3883@aol.com)

Message:
Just wondering, Does Raleigh still produce English 3 speeds in the British Isles or is everything made in Asia? Is the Raleigh of today the same company as the one that produced these fine old classics.




Subject: RE: Raleigh Nottingham Today
Entered on: Jan 23, 1998 16:42
Entered by: JimB ()

Message:
I know Raleigh produces about 1 million bikes per year, with a large number of those made in the USA, and a large number of them being mountain bikes. I am sure Sturmey Archer is still making and selling three-speed hubs but I don't know if Raleigh is still making any three-speeds in Notingham. Three-speeds are still being made in Holand by a company that may be owned by Raleigh (I know they own Gazelle).




Subject: Hercules bikes
Entered on: Jan 24, 1998 14:20
Entered by: Robert (moffett2@erols.com)

Message:
Does anyone know what years Hercules Lions were made, or tips on how to date them, even approximately? How about Hercules hubs? Were they S-A knockoffs, or were they their own design? What's the difference between a Type 2 and a Type 9? Any input would be appreciated. My Hercules is an unexceptional bike, but I really like it anyway, and I sure wish I knew more about it! Thanks, Robert




Subject: UK Raleigh at Nottingham
Entered on: Jan 24, 1998 17:49
Entered by: Tim (EMGEETD@aol.com)

Message:
I'm going t to the UK in a few weeks and I intend to stop at a few bike shops. We'll see what the deal is Raleigh in the UK. Raleigh sent me a catalgue a few months back with all of their current offerings. I'll see about getting some more. They do have a few 3 speeds still in the offering.




Subject: Raleigh Decals/Transfers
Entered on: Jan 26, 1998 23:03
Entered by: Fran (Dashiell@icdc.com)

Message:
Tim, Will you be looking for Raleigh decals/transfers while you are in England? As you've mentioned previously these seem to be scarce. Does anyone have a source? I am especially interested in the large Heron Logo decal for the rear mudguard just above the white section. Thanks.




Subject: PHILSH where are you?
Entered on: Jan 29, 1998 09:16
Entered by: MSavage ()

Message:
I enjoyed your Anglo-engineering bashing.




Subject: Anglo-engineering
Entered on: Jan 30, 1998 09:05
Entered by: jj ()

Message:
"Anglo-engineering", isn't that an oxymoron? Ha Ha, just kidding!




Subject: 26 x 1 1/2" tyres (A.K.A. 650B)
Entered on: Jan 30, 1998 15:14
Entered by: Sheldon Brown (CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com)

Message:
Greg wrote " I was checking out the archive from november looking around when I found a post from people looking for 26x1 1/2" tires. My expertise is in schwinn bikes and I know that on their tandems they used this size. (I was working on one, threw away the tires, only to find out they were an oddball size, and the tire hadn't been made in years). It just so happens that this was the first year that schwinn had contracted with the china bicycle company to manufacture their "frontier". This bike came with 26 X 1 1/2" tires that were the same size as the old style. I believe the old rims were S-4, I'm not sure of the diameter. The tires were only available in gumwall knobby. I don't know if tires are still available, but the bike was made from 94 to 95. Some schwinn dealers should still have tires out there... This size was also used by Raleigh U.S.A. (Huffy) in the late '70s, and remains a fairly popular size in France, where it is known as "650B" or "Demi-ballon". The I.S.O. size is 584 mm. I have a fairly thorough explanation of the different tire sizing systems and sizes on my Web site. Sheldon Brown




Subject: Charlestown, MA Bike Swap Meet/The Limey Show
Entered on: Feb 1, 1998 15:32
Entered by: Greg (ME2UNowell@aol.com)

Message:
The Limey Show has been going off once a year for quite a while. It is organized by a great guy named Dan Field. I have his old Boston phone number (617) 242-4988. He may have been tossed-out of the great building he was in along with the rest of the tenants. If previous number yields no Dan, try this one (617) 562-1467. If this also is no good, Email me and I'll try to track him down as we share the same neck of the concrete. Good luck! Greg.




Subject: Free Raleigh Dynahub
Entered on: Feb 1, 1998 15:42
Entered by: Greg (ME2UNowell@aol.com)

Message:
I've got said front Dynahub in excellent shape complete with OEM wiring, spokes to fit 32h front rim and headlamp which is a bit bashed-up but good for parts (need a new switch?) I will ship it to the first person who needs this thing if that person promises to reimburse me for the shipping charges. Call and leave message if you don't have Email. Greg. (617) 484-9306 MA




Subject: Re: Free Dynahub
Entered on: Feb 1, 1998 19:37
Entered by: Greg (ME2UNowell@aol.com)

Message:
The Dynahub I offered earlier today for free is on it's way to Kansas City. Maybe I should have asked for five bucks! Will post more as I find 'em. Greg




Subject: swap meet/ Limey Show
Entered on: Feb 2, 1998 13:28
Entered by: BILL (Stillfotog@aol.com)

Message:
Check under SWAP MEETS, Dan Field has Limey Show listed on Jan. 22 posting,includes date of show, e-mail& phone #




Subject: 1910-11 wall auto wheel
Entered on: Feb 2, 1998 18:17
Entered by: John Pelka (jjpelka@netlinkcom.com)

Message:
I need info on a 1910-11 wall auto wheel. It's sole purpose was to propel bicycles. first appeared in england in 1910.




Subject: Raleigh Nottingham today
Entered on: Feb 2, 1998 21:10
Entered by: Matt (mdekker@eskimo.com)

Message:
Warning, this post concludes with a commercial message. AFAIK, Raleigh UK are owned by Derby of Holland. They do sell traditional Roadsters in the 28" version (on the continent) but they buy these from Pashley of Stratford upon Avon. According to my sources, Pashley is the largest British owned bicycle manufacturer and the sole remaining UK maker of DL-1 style bikes. If anyone wants more info about Pashley, they can email me directly.




Subject: Wheel Size
Entered on: Feb 3, 1998 19:07
Entered by: Kevin (adrsg@net-nerds.com)

Message:
Just wondering... Why are three speed type bikes in the US represented by 26" wheels? It appears 28" wheels were popular in Europe. Why not 27" three speeds? I picked up what was a pretty good quality 70's era ten speed, laced the aluminum rim to a coaster brake three speed S/A hub, and lost the most everything "Ten Speed" except the Shimano 600 front brake. It's not traditional but it is nice to ride and fits me some better. (I have three or four more traditional 26" three speeds) Any comments?




Subject: Kevin's wheel size question
Entered on: Feb 4, 1998 09:38
Entered by: Dave ()

Message:
Just a guess--when Enlish bikes were brought here in quantity in the '50s and '60s the main market was kids rather than adults, and a 26" wheel fit more young people than a 27 or 28*. As I said, jsut a guess.




Subject: Tire sizes
Entered on: Feb 6, 1998 00:25
Entered by: Sheldon Brown (CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com)

Message:
The 28" (635 mm) wheels were mainly meant for riding on cobblestone or dirt roads. 26" (590 mm) wheels are lighter and faster. Also, 28" rims are not compatible with caliper brakes. As to using 27" (630 mm) wheels, that's quite reasonable. There's a picture of me on such a bike, taken in 1974, at the bottom of my PX-7 page http://www.sheldonbrown.com/px7.html. This bike is now a 7-speed with a Shimano hub, but for many years had a heavily modified, extra light Sturmey Archer AW 3-speed.




Subject: FS NOS Sturmey Archer 32 hole Dyno Wheel Assembly
Entered on: Feb 6, 1998 07:58
Entered by: Bob Marshall (kalsea@marshplan.com)

Message:
Never used-but some surface rust on underside of rim(covered by tire) rRare 27" diameter. Dyno hub marked 4/69.$110 or best offer plus shipping




Subject: WTB 28" Endrick Rims
Entered on: Feb 8, 1998 09:11
Entered by: Bob (kalsea@marshaplan.com)

Message:
Im looking for anyone who might happen to have a set of 28" Endrick Rims?Ņ? They have to be 36 hole.




Subject: Rod Brake Parts
Entered on: Feb 9, 1998 10:42
Entered by: David (davidd_dt@earthlink.net)

Message:
I recently acquired a bag of random used rod brake parts. They are somewhat dirty and in some cases show a spot of rust. But if you need a given part, let me know, and if I have it it's yours for free. This group has been helpful to me and I am hopeful I can return the favor.




Subject: Re: WTB 28" Endrick Rims
Entered on: Feb 10, 1998 18:26
Entered by: Sheldon Brown (CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com)

Message:
Are you sure you mean Endrick? Endrick rims are made for use with conventional caliper brakes, and I've never seen them in the 635 mm ("28 inch") size. The vast majority of rims in this size are Westwood design, made to work with roller-lever (rod) brakes. I'm expecting a shipment of Indian-made Westwood 36 hole rims in the near future; they'll probably sell for $25-30. Check in at my Three Speed Parts page: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/ha-three.html




Subject: decals
Entered on: Feb 10, 1998 21:57
Entered by: HOWARD (WOBEL1@AOL.COM)

Message:
I AM IN NEED OF DECALS FOR A RALEIGH SPORT DOES ANY ONE INFORMATION AS TO WHERE I MAY FIND THEM.




Subject: Wanted: 28" ederick rims 36 hole
Entered on: Feb 10, 1998 22:06
Entered by: Joel (flood1@erols.com)

Message:
hello bob, Call Via Bicycle in Philly they have them, I'm positive, I work there. They also have other wierd thing. Tell them Joel sent you. 215-627-3370




Subject: 28" wheels
Entered on: Feb 12, 1998 22:16
Entered by: Fran (Dashiell@icdc.com)

Message:
If you are really looking for caliper brake compatible 28" rims you may want to consider Weinmann's alloy 28" rims. I know that they were making them a couple of years ago. I have not actually seen them so I donít know that they are caliper brake compatible but the people at Weinmann told me they were shipping most of them to Benotto in Mexico and I doubt that they were using rod brakes. I believe Cyclo-Pedia in Michigan [(517) 263-5803] was carrying them. Of course, once you put alloy rims on your Roadster you may get a sudden urge to drill out the chainwheels and replace all of the bolts with titanium. If you want to stay with tradition follow Joel's advice and call Via. Weird?, come on now Joel.




Subject: 28" Endrick Rims
Entered on: Feb 13, 1998 08:51
Entered by: Bob Marshall (kalsea@marshplan.com)

Message:
Thanks everyone 4 the enthusiastic responses. Need these rims to complete restoration of a 1936 CCM Flyte-a rare Canadian bike with curved forks,Troxel Toolbox seat and these Endrick rims. It is only a coaster brake unit so rim profile vis-a vis brake shoes is not of concern in this case. Just have to be28" 36hole,flat profile and nice and shiny.Any one got any? Thanks again Bob




Subject: Parts
Entered on: Feb 15, 1998 19:36
Entered by: Marc (riverrun@newnorth.net)

Message:
I am tearing down an old garage and came across a lot of old bike parts. The gentleman apparently was going into the bike repair business at one time. There are about 50 handle bars, to many spoke and spoke ends to mention. Hubs, sprockets, rims, cases of the metal frame tubes, chains and many more parts. Brand names include Sturmey Archer, H. Miller&Co., Renolds & Coventry, Brampton, and Hercules. Also a wooden rim with the brand name Baruzzo. Any thoughts on who might pay something for this material. Any advice would be appreciated.




Subject: Sell/Trade?
Entered on: Feb 16, 1998 10:18
Entered by: Chris (vna.vnacb@memo.volvo.se)

Message:
Would like to sell or trade a 1964 Hercules ladies' 3-speed. Bike is in perfect mechanical condition, with new tires/tubes and brake shoes. Not ridden since 1965; some scratches from storage. Was stored indoors in heated basement. Would be interested in partial swap for men's Raleigh roadster, preferably one in good (or better) condition. Bike is in NJ; could arrange delivery to BritBike meet in Philadelphia April 4, or Greensboro, NC April 19. Let me know if you have anything to part with. Reply via e-mail, or call (973) 893-0831 eves/wknds.




Subject: Raleigh Competition
Entered on: Feb 18, 1998 13:59
Entered by: Dennis (dbolay@metrotech.org)

Message:
I have a Raleigh Competition, purchased new in about 1970 or so. I was manu- factured at the Carlton Works in Notting- ham. I am debating what to do with it. It has always been garaged and is in excellent condition. I would like to convert it to a roadster perhaps. Any thoughts?




Subject: Raleigh Competition
Entered on: Feb 18, 1998 19:03
Entered by: Bob Hufford (bhufford@mail.orion.org)

Message:
I would leave the bike as is and look for a Roadster to buy or trade for. The Competition, while not a high end Raleigh, does have some collectibility. What are you looking for? 28" wheels, 26"? There is a nice 26" mid-70's Raleigh Sport for sale at a local (Springfield, MO) bike repair shop. I could check it out for you. Where are you located? I'm sure you could find a Roadster fairly locally. Do you have pics of the Competition? I'd kinda like to see it ...




Subject: Nice Roadster Wanted
Entered on: Feb 19, 1998 13:11
Entered by: Chris (vna.vnacb@memo.volvo.se)

Message:
Nice English Roadster wanted. Prefer something with all the "bells and whistles", ideally a Raleigh Superbe. I can come pick it up if in the Northeast. Any leads appreciated. Contact me by e-mail, or via 'phone at (800)458-1552, x1670 (w), or (973) 893-0831 (h). Thanks!




Subject: Empo bicycles
Entered on: Feb 19, 1998 19:20
Entered by: Chuck (fredlud@aol.com)

Message:
Hello all and I must say, what a wealth of info in here. I just got back from the Netherlands with an Empo bicycle in tow. It has 28" wheels and is a one speed. I was wondering if anyone had any info on the Empo bicycle company (years of production, ect). You can find an image of the head badge and the bike itself plus one old tandem that got away at: http://members.aol.com/Fredlud/Dutch_bikes.html Thanks, Chuck Fred




Subject: BSA Parabike
Entered on: Feb 21, 1998 21:05
Entered by: Ilian (irov@bc.sympatico.ca)

Message:
I have a 1942 BSA Parabike that I am restoring for the local Canadian Museum of Flight in Langley, B.C. Canada. Does anyone have pictures or some information on the bike. All I know is that it was used by British paratroopers during WW2. RSVP by email.




Subject: Rod Raleighs DL1
Entered on: Feb 24, 1998 15:54
Entered by: Chris S (silverspecial@rocketmail.com)

Message:
Wow- people like me! I can't believe it! I have a Rod brake Raleigh, which when I die, I will be stuffed and mounted on. I was wondering if anyone would have any Miller generator light sets? Just one really, also, I have a Miller light, but it's an odd one, and I am positive it's rare. It's a standard light, but it has a speedo in it! It dosen't have the cable drive, or anything else. Can anyone help? I'm also looking for a woman's rod Raliegh for my wife. She'd probably be interested in doing a swap or something for her Firestone baloon tyre with a tank, and a fighter plane on the badge if anyone is inerested. I also found a Swift I might buy for her, it's from the 30's I'd guess, and it is a rod, but it's inROUGH shape. What should I pay for it? It's all there. I have a tired ladies Dunelt kinda rusty, with cable brakes and in need of loving. I rescued it from a scrap yard, it's very saveable, and free to anyone willing to pay the shipping. Ah yes, I live in Sacramento, Ca




Subject: Trip to the UK
Entered on: Feb 25, 1998 06:32
Entered by: Tim ()

Message:
I just got back from the Uk on the 22nd of Feb. Spent a week looking at lots of bikes. 95% of them are new. Even in the bike shops, new bikes abound and the shop owners are not really keen on the old stuff. Did see though at a local Post Office about 150 rod brake and other types that the Posties use for eveyday deliveries. All were painted a light red and had Royal Mail on them. I took a picture and a chap came out to inquiry as to what I was doing. When told him I was into bikes, He gave a GPO saddle bag (leather) from the 1960's that had never been issued. You'll never have that happen here. He also gave me a bell with the royal crest on it. In the town of Chichester I saw many older bikes, some with full chaincases, rod brakes etc. Saw a rod brake 26" wheel Raleigh Superbe with a full cc. circa l955. Lots of Dawes bikes. No transfers at any of the shops. Raleigh didn't like to sell them as they thought people would add them onto a cheap bike. Tim




Subject: Calling Jim Burton
Entered on: Feb 25, 1998 16:35
Entered by: dave (davehmn@sover.net)

Message:
Jim Burton, where are you? We all miss your informative messages here on the English Roadsters page. Let's hear from you and catch up on your latest discoveries/projects/etc. Dave Brownell (the guy with the other Dunelt)




Subject: Full Chain guard
Entered on: Feb 25, 1998 19:43
Entered by: Chris S (silverspecial@rocketmail.com)

Message:
Hey all, I'm new here, but you seem like family already, so I'll let you know that here in Sac. Ca thre's a bike shop called College Cyclery which hacs some nos stuff, and the last I checked, they had a Raleigh full chain guard. I'll look tomorrow before class, but I'm almost sure it's still there. FYI




Subject: RE: Calling Jim Burton
Entered on: Feb 26, 1998 08:54
Entered by: JimB ()

Message:
Hi everyone. I'm still here, but I have been very busy with work since Christmas. In February, our company was acquired and we are under major assult by the competition as a result. Since I do competitive analysis, this means many late nights working on special projects. Hopefully, things will calm down soon and I can get back to English bicycles. The 1930's Raleigh rod brake bike is coming together well. The last of the plating should be back within the next two weeks. The wheels are built and look absolutely beautiful with the whitewall Dunlop White Sprite tires. The only thing left is paint, pinstriping, and assembly.




Subject: JimB is Back!
Entered on: Feb 26, 1998 22:39
Entered by: Bob Hufford (bhufford@mail.orion.org)

Message:
Woo hoo! All is well with the world. Jim, keep us posted on the projects -- please! :-)




Subject: Mr Burton, where did you get them tires?
Entered on: Feb 27, 1998 00:11
Entered by: chuck (fredlud@aol.com)

Message:
Sound like a nice project, will we get to see photos of your Raleigh, Mr. Burton? Is that rubber you are putting on it new and are they 28 inchers and if so, where in the world did you find them?




Subject: Raleigh 3 speed fork or part
Entered on: Mar 1, 1998 11:01
Entered by: Larry (mhoff 50074@aol.com)

Message:
lOOKING FOR 3 SPEED FORK WITH TWO SIDE CAPS




Subject: 1975 Raleigh DL-22 (Sports)
Entered on: Mar 1, 1998 21:47
Entered by: Mark (axlerod@aol.com)

Message:
Brand new- no kidding! Mens 26 x 1 3/8" tyre, 23" frame. Never owned by anyone but me and ridden all of 100 feet (bought from a dealer in NY off the showroom floor about 10 yrs ago) and immediately boxed. It is absolutely mint, candy apple red, and am asking $350.00 plus shipping.




Subject: Swap Meet
Entered on: Mar 2, 1998 11:10
Entered by: Chris S (silverspecial@rocketmail.com)

Message:
Hey everyone, there's a swap meet this weekend out here in SacCa, is anyone looking for any obscure parts? I can pick them up if they're there. I found out yesterday at a car swap meet, and this elderly man had a 1928 Cadillac bicycle that was beautiful. but in need of a resto, but he wanted 200 dollars for it not bad if I say so myself. He said the swap is this weekend, and it's next door (just about) Anyone looking for a part?




Subject: College
Entered on: Mar 2, 1998 11:34
Entered by: Chris S (silverspecial@rocketmail.com)

Message:
Hi all, College cyclery does not have the chain guard, but they do have one for a Peugeot, thanks to a fellow Sacramentan. They do have a couple Raleighs, a Superbe, mens, and apparently a ladies.




Subject: Sturmey Archer Drum Brake Problems
Entered on: Mar 2, 1998 19:38
Entered by: Kyle (kylecole@yale.edu)

Message:
I recently bought a 1950 Sturmey Archer AB 3 speed wheel which has a drum brake. The problem is that when I tension the brake cable so the brake does not drag, the brake lever bottoms out on the handlebar before any significant force is applied to the drum. I took the drum apart and the shoes are made of brass filings embedded in a semi-spongy material, perhaps an asbestos compound. My questions are: where can I get new brake shoes (Ha ha ha) and will this solve the problem? This is all quite ironic because I got the wheel in hopes of improving my Rudge's pathetic braking in wet conditions. I appreciate any feedback anyone has. Kyle e-mail: kylecole@yale.edu




Subject: unable to locate dealer for "Raleigh Nottingham sport 3-speed"
Entered on: Mar 3, 1998 06:31
Entered by: Ehenry (toussain@dorsai.org ehenry_toussaint@smb.com)

Message:
can anyone help me locate a Raleigh dealer which still sales the old Raleigh black bikes. "Raleigh Nottingham sport" thanks.




Subject: having problem locating "Raleigh Nottingham (black bike)"
Entered on: Mar 3, 1998 12:53
Entered by: Ehenry (ehenry_toussaint@smb.com toussain@dorsai.org)

Message:
>having problem locating.. >can you help me locate or point me to a dealer which still sales the >"Raleigh Nottingham sport bike" (black).. I do not know the year >but looking over some sites the bike looks similar to: > >http://beagle.biology.yale.edu/~hanczyc/1960raleigh.html > >I don't know if there's a later model.. > >thanks




Subject: 3spd men's rudge
Entered on: Mar 4, 1998 22:56
Entered by: calvert (cycletruck@aol.com)

Message:
a woman i know just told me she has a 3spd rudge for sale.....the frame is too small for me (22.5") but @ 60 bucks(plus shipping) and in nice condition it sounds to me like a good deal..... call sarah @ 913/371/4868....(kansas city, kansas)




Subject: 2 BSA's for sale
Entered on: Mar 5, 1998 22:25
Entered by: Tom (wtpii@aol.com)

Message:
I would like to find a good home for two old BSAs. These were our only means of transportation when I was young. Man's is circa 1940, single speed, solid rod hand brakes, black with a little white on rear fender, decal says "War Time Finish", generator and light(top of light blacked out so it couldn't be seen by planes) included, original leather BSA seat, good condition $200/obo. Woman's is "Phillips City" made by BSA, black with red trim and chrome brake rods, single speed. Has metal 1948 Albany NY license.$100/obo. Both bikes all original and in generally good shape.




Subject: Mo-Bo-Totcycle
Entered on: Mar 6, 1998 09:10
Entered by: Donna (Donna.Bauer@Symbios.COM)

Message:
Does anyone know where I can find information on an old english bicycle called a "Mo-Bo-Totcycle"?




Subject: RE: Mr Burton, where did you get them tires?
Entered on: Mar 6, 1998 15:20
Entered by: JimB ()

Message:
I bought what I feel are the last two pairs of Dunlop White Sprite tires (from the late 1950's) in America. They are 26 X 1 3/8 with whitewalls. I had to unwrap yards of yellow cellophane and clean years of mold and mildew, but they cleaned up very well. The guy I bought them from has no more and knows of no one anyplace who does.




Subject: NEED HELP IN IDing BSA
Entered on: Mar 7, 1998 06:36
Entered by: Bob Marshall (kalsea@marshplan.com)

Message:
Have a mens BSA with a fork crown that resembles a face shield from a suit of armor and a 2-3" arrow below that pointing down the fork and riveted to it. Nice headbadge and very narrow handle bars similar to turn of century bikes.Top bar takes a severe bend just before seat post. Feel this is quite old but need input of anyone who specializes in BSA or who has literature.Any feedback here or to my e-mail greatly appreciated




Subject: child seat
Entered on: Mar 7, 1998 16:10
Entered by: charl (charlz24@aol.com)

Message:
Anyone have information on a child's seat which is bolted to the rear of a bicycle. It is made of metal and has a vinyl padded seat and is stamped "Made in England" It appears to be quite old but I am uncertain of its age. Thanks.




Subject: Sturmey Archer internal brake pads 4 sale
Entered on: Mar 8, 1998 08:12
Entered by: Bob Marshall (kalsea@marshplan.com)

Message:
Have several NOS pads in original box available at $24/pair postage paid




Subject: " The Raleigh "
Entered on: Mar 10, 1998 11:56
Entered by: Dan (extant@rust.net)

Message:
I've recently acquired a 28 inch wheel rod bike with sturmey-archer 3-speed hub, has hockey stick chainguard, black with pinstripe-rather plain looking. My question is: Is this model which only has the designation " The Raleigh " the same as the Dl-1 Tourist. It also was stamped "71"on the hub which I think indicates its date of manufacture. Also has Brooks leather seat. I know it was sold in USA as it has the original bike shop decal. Any info would be helpful.




Subject: "The Raleigh"
Entered on: Mar 11, 1998 09:29
Entered by: JimB ()

Message:
Dan, It sounds like you have a DL-1.




Subject:
Entered on: Mar 11, 1998 11:09
Entered by: Chris S (silverspecial@rocketmail.com)

Message:
Hi Dan, Yes, the 71 stamped on the hub is year of manufacture. Sounds like a DL-1 to me too.




Subject: Rod Brake part needed
Entered on: Mar 12, 1998 07:27
Entered by: Tim (centerstrt@aol.com)

Message:
Hi folks, I'm looking for the nut and small bolt that pinch the two rods together coming down from the handle bars on a Raleigh DL 1 Tourist. The present one I have is stripped. The bolt has a small hole in it where the thin rod slips into. Thanks Tim




Subject: Rod Brake Parts
Entered on: Mar 12, 1998 13:22
Entered by: Bob Hufford (bhufford@mail.orion.org)

Message:
David posted back in February that he had some extra rod-brake parts. Give him a shout. davidd_dt@earthlink.net




Subject: Mercury!??
Entered on: Mar 12, 1998 21:49
Entered by: Jesse (birchk@island.net)

Message:
I own two Mercury bikes a courier 3 speed with 26 by 1 and 3/8 tires and a Atlantic cruiser with 26 by 1 and 1/2 tires I have heard no tell of these bikes in this dicussion area but they say made in England and were ditributed in Canada by woodwards they are both nice bikes, the courier has bent back forks so the wheel hits the peadals when it turns. does anyone know how to fix this without risking further dammage. any info on these bikes would be appreciated, thanks.




Subject: Releigh Record tires
Entered on: Mar 13, 1998 13:08
Entered by: David (dbuttra@intelsol.com)

Message:
Are Releigh Record tires (26 x 1 3/8) still being manufactured? If so, any suggestions on where to find them? And what do they cost? I can find plenty of sources for a comparable Kenda make but would really like to find the Records. Related to that is what would be a reasonable price on a decent used Record? In my area the Kenda's go for $14 - $15.




Subject: Re: Mercury!??
Entered on: Mar 13, 1998 14:45
Entered by: greg (ggroth9@xsite.net)

Message:
As far as your fork goes, if you are planning on using it, I would replace the fork. If you're planning on restoring it, and not riding it, I would straighten the fork. I'm assuming the fork is tubular, when the metal gets bent back and forth, it loses it's strength. It's not really worth one's physical well being on a part that could fail. I suppose if it's not bent too bad, it could be straightened, but if it's hittng when you turn it sounds pretty bad. Are there any ripples in the metal by the frok crown? If so, definately replace it before you ride.




Subject: Re: Mercury!??
Entered on: Mar 13, 1998 14:51
Entered by: greg (ggroth9@xsite.net)

Message:
As far as your fork goes, if you are planning on using it, I would replace the fork. If you're planning on restoring it, and not riding it, I would straighten the fork. I'm assuming the fork is tubular, when the metal gets bent back and forth, it loses it's strength. It's not really worth one's physical well being on a part that could fail. I suppose if it's not bent too bad, it could be straightened, but if it's hittng when you turn it sounds pretty bad. Are there any ripples in the metal by the frok crown? If so, definately replace it before you ride.




Subject: Sturmey-Archer 1902-1952
Entered on: Mar 15, 1998 12:38
Entered by: Sheldon Brown (CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com)

Message:
In 1952, Sturmey-Archer put out a commemorative booklet celebrating the first 50 years of their history. I've scanned and edited this, and added it to my Web site. Check it out at http://www.sheldonbrown.com/sa50.html




Subject: Phoenix Area Bicycle
Entered on: Mar 16, 1998 00:23
Entered by: Kevin (adrsg@net-nerds.com)

Message:
Anybody out there around Phoenix, I was in Savers (Thrift Shop) at Thomas & 56th St. this morning. They have (had) a rod brake, women's frame, "Royal Cycle." The leather seat is shot but the only parys I saw missing was a brake pad or two. The decals are worn. It has some great parts! Interesting pedals and chain guard. I'm fairly sure it's pre WWII. Oh yea, its a single speed. The price is $49.99 but they are advertising 10% to 50% off everything on St. Patricks day. If anybody out there picks it up - let me know. Thanks, Kevin




Subject: dunelt
Entered on: Mar 17, 1998 17:34
Entered by: Geoffrey (parsons@jltc.army.mil)

Message:
My wife found a nice looking old English 3 speed at a thrift shop and I would like to know a few things about it. The SA hub is stamped with a 65. Where in the quality line up did this bike fall? Original purchase price? Value now? I would greatly appreciate any help.




Subject: RE: dunelt
Entered on: Mar 18, 1998 08:55
Entered by: JimB ()

Message:
If the rear hub is original, the bike you have is a 1965 Dunelt. Dunelt was in the middle ranges for quality. Actually, the only real differences between the medium and the higher ranges was was more in product features than in product quality. The brands in the higher range came with pumps, more pinstriping, better seat, more accessories, etc. I own two Dunelts, a 1966 and a 1969, and find them very durable and fun to ride.




Subject: More on Dunelt
Entered on: Mar 18, 1998 09:02
Entered by: JimB ()

Message:
The original purchase price in 1965 was probably under $60 and possibly under $50. Keep in mind that most bikes were priced in that range at that time. Its value today would depend on its condition, where in the US you try to sell it, whether it has rod brakes or not, and how you market it. They go from $10-15 at a garage sale to around $200 to someone who is wealthy and over 60 who wants to replace one they had when they were younger.




Subject: RE:26x1 1/2 (40-584)(650B) tires
Entered on: Mar 18, 1998 11:19
Entered by: richardhead (awesomecycles@montego.com)

Message:
This size tire is still available from J&B importersin a steet tread pattern w/gumwall.retail price is about $12.00..(Schwinn also called it S-4)




Subject: RE:26x1 1/2 (40-584)(650B) tires
Entered on: Mar 18, 1998 11:19
Entered by: richardhead (awesomecycles@montego.com)

Message:
This size tire is still available from J&B importersin a steet tread pattern w/gumwall.retail price is about $12.00..(Schwinn also called it S-4)




Subject: RE:26x1 1/2 (40-584)(650B) tires
Entered on: Mar 18, 1998 11:19
Entered by: richardhead (awesomecycles@montego.com)

Message:
This size tire is still available from J&B importersin a steet tread pattern w/gumwall.retail price is about $12.00..(Schwinn also called it S-4)