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AGE / VALUE:   bicycle id posted by: shawn loar on 11/6/2011 at 5:49:49 PM
seller told me he thought it was an elgin. not sure anyone have any ideals. and year? thanks serial number under bottom bracket is 718817. rear dropouts have axel adjusters. seat is a schwinn. sprocket looks shelby just wondering what the frame is thanks


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   bicycle id posted by shawn loar on 11/6/2011 at 6:00:04 PM
try the picture again


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   bicycle id posted by jj on 11/7/2011 at 4:01:25 AM
Have a look in the Picture Database. That chainring should identify it. Might be a Shelby.
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MISC:   New forum software? posted by: Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 11/4/2011 at 4:56:51 PM
I wrote the software for these Discussion Areas over 10 years ago.
At the time I thought that having a place where you don’t need to register or login, but could just post a question or post an answer, was the way to go. But when it comes to posting pictures and maintaining continuity in a conversation I see this model lacking.
Here at OldRoads our stats are at the highest they’ve ever been. So maybe this is the time to buy some forum software and have forum contributors have their own logins. On other forums I visit, I like to be able to search for replies to my posts and to upload photos easily.
What are your thoughts or recommendations?

-Vin


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          RE:MISC:   New forum software? posted by ken on 11/7/2011 at 12:15:51 PM
A few thoughts: 1) I have no problem with the existing format and I think it's something to be proud of, but if you have reason to change it you're the boss. 2) It would be nice to be able to include a photo in a post. A few times I've noticed that someone was able to insert a picture into the text of their post somehow, but I never figured out how. 3) I've been wishing for a database of balloon/middleweight manufacturers, with a way to crossreference dealers and makers - e.g. Chicago Cycle Supply badge, some built by Schwinn and some by Murray, etc. so when somebody has a bike they know about they can post it, to simplify identification, years of manufacture etc. Each bike would be a separate data point. 4) Oldroads is a great site. Thanks again, Vin.
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          RE:MISC:   New forum software? posted by Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 11/9/2011 at 4:04:56 PM
Update.
Thank you for your feedback here and via email.
We've purchased more server space and software for a new forum and are in the process of setting it up.
The rest of our site will not be changed – we’re just upgrading the Discussion Areas.
The hard part will be trying to put the 200,000+ messages from the old forum into the new forum, if that is even possible.

There will be a "Guest" mode which works as this forum does today – you can be totally anonymous – you can post messages, etc without logging in.
But you can also register and use your own account, easily find old conversations, maintain a profile, etc.
And there will be full picture hosting. No need to have an account on photobucket or snapfish or anywhere else.

-Vin

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          RE:RE:MISC:   New forum software? posted by ken on 11/10/2011 at 1:48:36 PM
Sweet.
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AGE / VALUE:   hawthorne id posted by: shawn loar on 11/2/2011 at 3:45:46 PM
can someone id the model and year of my hawthorne?? under the bottom bracket...55EH....on left rear dropout B649792.....THANKS
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   hawthorne id posted by gmain. on 11/4/2011 at 1:09:55 PM
Dating ANY old bicycle.
While almost all of them have a serial number, very few of them can be correalted to any date. However, even back into the 1800s No bike manufacurer made every single component. And this is how we can date the bike. The hardware, and accesories on the bike. Given a bare frame, unless its unique, you will never know. However if its say a CW frame, common for many years all the exact same, you can look at say the seat, stem, chainguard, rack, etc and by hoping these are original to the build of the bike, narrow it down to with a year or 2.
unlike a bike which can use a 1897 frame, and 2010 wheels, most accesories have a short lifespan between improvements, or design style changes, and then by adding up all these variables we determine the age.
simple things like the fender brace can be a huge clue.
Hence no request is able to be considered without at least a very good picture of the entire bike.
Gary Main
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   hawthorne id posted by ken on 11/7/2011 at 12:00:45 PM
Also, in addition to all Gary's excellent points, please note that a Hawthorne was Montgomery Ward's brand name, not a manufacturer.
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MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Huffy Express posted by: Kirk Haas on 10/22/2011 at 11:45:10 AM
I just bought what I believe to be a (1963?) Huffy Express serial # 3C003873. Some rust, needs new tires, but rides great. Can anyone tell me more about these bikes? I don't want to start working on it until I know more about value and rarity (doubt it.)
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AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn breeze posted by: chris on 10/11/2011 at 5:09:29 PM
blue, ladies frame, sturmey archer s3c coaster brake with original trigger shifter that alone is worth 20.00 new tires replacements and new tubes,

i am looking forward to putting loose ball bearings in that huge headset it has and loose ball bearings in the ashtabula crankset, a clean and an overhaul

I'm keeping it! Im putting loose ball bearings in every bike I get no more caged bearings!! the bikes come alive!! I am having fun and it was a good deal
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BALLOON:   Help in Bicycle ID posted by: Paul Rooney on 10/10/2011 at 10:14:40 AM
Can someone help me identify this Balloon Tire Bicycle. Base on my limited knowledge I believe it is a Firestone, but I am not sure what manufacturer or approximate year. I photos of identical frames and very similar sprocket designs, but I have not been able to identify the maker of that wicked looking chain guard. I believe the wheels and hubs have been replaced since the hub is a Bendix 70. There is a data plate riveted on the bottom of the frame with model # 4006 and S#0209460. The head badge is missing. Any info would be greatly appreciated. oldroads.com has been a very valuble tool for me especially just starting in the Hobby bicycle collecting. Thanks. Paul


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          RE:BALLOON:   Help in Bicycle ID posted by gmain on 10/10/2011 at 2:56:09 PM
looks to be a Columbia or some badged model. firestone with a deluxe chrome rack and qaurd most likely would have a springer. probably a Frankenbike. very cool
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          RE:BALLOON:   Help in Bicycle ID posted by Paul Rooney on 10/10/2011 at 6:04:23 PM
Thanks for the info.
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AGE / VALUE:   what is this springer from? posted by: jbm on 9/28/2011 at 3:42:30 PM
I have a schwinn serial#G212740 1950. obvious repaint.
I dont think this is the correct springer.
any idea what it came from?


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   what is this springer from? posted by jbm on 9/28/2011 at 3:51:06 PM
whoops. trying again on the photo


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   what is this springer from? posted by Patrick on 9/29/2011 at 7:10:20 AM
That looks like a Murray made springer from a Western Flyer.The upper clamp is identical to a "beehive" springer on a Murray made JC Higgins I had. Lets see the pivot @ the bottom,That would tell me for certain.
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WANTED:   Photo of Westfield springer fork? posted by: Jay Broemmel on 9/18/2011 at 7:42:03 PM
Anyone have a pic of what these are supposed to look like before they are run into something at a high rate of speed?


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          RE:WANTED:   Photo of Westfield springer fork? posted by Vin on 9/19/2011 at 3:40:20 AM
Some great photos there, Jay
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          RE:WANTED:   Photo of Westfield springer fork? posted by gmain on 9/19/2011 at 8:13:57 AM
i have straightened a bunch of antique forks, this one looks like most of the damage is near the top of the central fork, i would leave the rest alone, until thats straight, then reassemble and look it over. I straighten them in the frame, though.
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          RE:RE:WANTED:   Photo of Westfield springer fork? posted by ken on 9/22/2011 at 9:53:26 AM
They are indeed some cool photos. Made me wonder what's new at C.H.U.N.K. 666, but couldn't find anything newer than 2008. I suspect even Megalon-5 would have to simmer down sometime. I'd also like to see more about Slouch cycles.
Gary, could you please post a guide to your fork-straightening method? I've tried various ways with limited success.
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          RE:WANTED:   Photo of Westfield springer fork? posted by Gary M on 9/22/2011 at 2:55:59 PM
its simple. I have a Park Twin clamp bike stand a very old one. the center upright has many holes in it for the heighth adjusting pins. I put an axle in the correct hole, that fits where i want it. i take out the handlebars, and turn the fork backwards. I put the bike over the top of the park stand, fork backwards, and stab the fork eye into the axle. then i pull down on the rear of the frame evenly, and the forks easily bend back and are quite true usually.
I know i can fix the set in the picture as good as new. Using the frame for a lever insures a straight line pull, and your standing behind it to make sure its straight. every thing done off the bike will be tough to get straight. I also have an obsolete park tube straightener if a leg is bent at a bad angle
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AGE / VALUE:   head badge rivits posted by: sam on 9/8/2011 at 2:47:47 PM
Ever wondered wher to get these?
http://www.ereplacementparts.com/rivet-d25x48-pcs-p-183450.html
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AGE / VALUE:   Monark seattube decal/graphic posted by: Steve on 9/2/2011 at 12:25:54 PM
In my continuing quest for information and parts for my Monark Special Cruiser, I was wondering where I might find a source for seat tube decals? Thanks
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Monark seattube decal/graphic posted by Crazy Cooter on 11/2/2011 at 6:57:59 AM
You can find some decals at http://www.memorylane-classics.com/ and there are a few sellers on ebay that have them which is where I got mine (bicyclebones) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Monark-Super-Deluxe-26-Bicycle-Blue-Gold-Decal-Set-/220885750057?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336dd11129 and (axsep) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Monark-Super-Deluxe-26-Bicycle-Blue-Gold-Decal-Set-/220885750057?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item336dd11129
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AGE / VALUE:   Guess This Bicycle posted by: Shylow on 8/28/2011 at 8:52:38 AM
Anyone know anything about this bicycle. I recently purchased it on CL. It has New Departure coaster brake, troxel seat, looks like a Wald skip tooth sprocket. Chain guard looks pre war. Any guesses? Thanks!


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Guess This Bicycle posted by janetlee on 9/19/2011 at 11:07:39 AM
I would guess, a Hawthorne or a D.B. Harris and I think its been repainted.
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BALLOON:   Schwinn Panther 2 Restoration Question posted by: TJ on 8/27/2011 at 9:43:46 PM
I am currently restoring an old Schwinn Panther 2 and I've run into a little problem. The front rim I have is chrome and the rear is white with 2 thin black stripes. Both are Schwinn stamped and seem to be original. Should I leave them as is or should a pick a common set (either chrome or painted)? If I where to chose I think I'd go with the white rim scheme. Let me know your thoughts out there. Thanks.
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          RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Panther 2 Restoration Question posted by gmain on 8/29/2011 at 7:57:10 PM
Panther is a top of the line bike and would have chrme fenders, rims and partial chrome chaingaurd, as well as chrome on the tank
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AGE / VALUE:   foremost 50's or 60s bike? posted by: jim on 8/27/2011 at 1:43:10 AM
hi i have a ladies foremost bike and wanted to ask if this is a 50's or 60s release? and is it also made by sears back in the day? how much will such bike be worth?


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   foremost 50's or 60s bike? posted by Patrick on 8/27/2011 at 7:11:19 AM
Hi,Your bike was made by Murray Ohio in the 60's.They made bikes for several stores including Sears and under their own name.
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   foremost 50's or 60s bike? posted by jim on 8/27/2011 at 11:45:54 AM
hi thank you for the info. would you know what would be the bikes worth if ever one was to buy it today? thanks
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BALLOON:   Berry Cohen Special posted by: Glenn Gordon on 8/26/2011 at 12:47:26 PM
I have just purchased a Berry Cohen Special manufactured in Atlanta Georgia! I cannot find any information on this on any of the internet sites. Can anyone lead me in the coorect path for information on this bicycle! Example: date and possible color combinations for later restoration. Chrome is in good condition and bike looks to have been built in the 40's??? Thank you for the help in resolving my mis or lack of information. Looks like a Hawthorne bike! this is a ladies bike.
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MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Monark Special Cruiser posted by: Steve on 8/16/2011 at 8:02:09 AM
I have a Monark Special Cruiser. It is similar to the Firestone Special Cruiser and may have been made by Monark. The difference is the chain guard. There is a little plastic insert with a crown on it, instead of the Firestone "F". The serial number is stamped on the crank, but is unreadable. There is no serial number plate like on the Firestone. Any help in dating this bike would be appreciated.
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          RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Monark Special Cruiser posted by Patrick on 8/18/2011 at 5:49:06 AM
Look under the crank housing,Monark rivited a plate there with the s/n


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          RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Monark Special Cruiser posted by Steve on 8/25/2011 at 8:28:31 PM
No plate under the crank housing, only some very faint markings, which I can't make out.
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