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MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Handle bar size posted by: JY on 11/19/2009 at 8:36:35 PM
I bought a 1960's Murray Jet fire cruiser that my boyfriend and I are refurbishing. It came with sting ray handle bars, but I want to buy cruiser handle bars. Does anyone know which size handlebars the bike would origionally have had?


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          RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Handle bar size posted by ken on 11/20/2009 at 10:36:28 AM
check out this western flyer in the oldroads picture database
http://oldroads.com/pqdb_img.asp?p=http://oldroads.com/fdbdown.asp?1507&mod=&mak=Western_Flyer
The handlebars are correct for yours, and note how similar the chainguard and luggage rack are.
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AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer Regent posted by: Anna on 11/16/2009 at 6:05:42 PM
I picked up a Western Flyer Regent 3 speed, serial #MO290218 and am looking for additional information on age and value. Any help would be appreciated.
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer Regent posted by ken on 11/17/2009 at 12:50:28 PM
Anna, what brand of 3-speed hub does it have?
if it's sturmey-archer:
http://sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer.html#sturmey
if Shimano, figure early seventies or later, although their first 3-speed was produced in 1957 according to Shimano.
These machines are not collector items, but their value has been on the increase with commuters and urban riders.
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AGE / VALUE:   Wanted: 1962 26" Schwinn Typhoon posted by: Patrick on 11/13/2009 at 1:16:00 PM
Hi,I'm looking for the above as a complete bike or a project. I hope the picture works,as this year frame is different than the rest Please send e-mail to pcraik1960@hotmail.com Thanks.

Patrick


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BALLOON:   Prewar Wald coaster brake ? posted by: Dan on 11/9/2009 at 4:46:39 PM
I picked-up an old Western Flyer mens 26", a "bent tank" S/C CWC frame style, it has a Wald coaster brake in back. This is a first Wald coaster brake I've seen, it also has ND stamped below the Wald script. Did New Departure build these brake hubs? This bike also has a large diameter aluminum stem, I think it might be a 1941 model serial number H26981. Could be one number after the H that I can't make out or not?
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AGE / VALUE:   firestone pilot posted by: Jer on 11/9/2009 at 2:57:42 PM
I just picked up an old bike and haven't a clue about it's age. It says Pilot on the side of the "tank" and it has a Perry B-100 rear coaster hub. Anyone got a clue. Thanks
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MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Possible Western Flyer Middleweight? posted by: Luc Nicolet on 11/9/2009 at 8:37:25 AM
My girlfriend picked up this old bike at a mountain biking festival here in Florida last weekend. She wanted something to ride around the neighborhood and at the beach.
Any idea what it is?
Some poking around on the web has me thinking it's a middleweight Western Flyer (with 70's-looking handlebars added on).
The tank used to have twin headlights in it, and has a switch underneath it.
Attached is a pic she just sent me from her cell.


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          RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Possible Western Flyer Middleweight? posted by Ben Wright on 11/9/2009 at 10:08:23 PM
I think that's a 60's BF Goodrich "Challenger".
Murray "Meteor" looks like that ,too.
But it looks just like a Challenger I'm working on right now(see pics under Humboldt County Collector),
right down to the rear drops and sprocket.
I think it was the newer ones that had the integrated tank lights.
Hope it helps
-cheers,Ben Wright
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          RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Possible Western Flyer Middleweight? posted by ken on 11/10/2009 at 12:42:44 PM
It's Murray-built for certain. Early 60s. Ben hit the prime identifiers, rear drops and sprocket, and the rims are another sure indicator. Yes, the handlebars are later, and the saddle's not stock. You could probably find the headlight hardware in a Western Flyer, Firestone, BF Goodrich, Sears or Murray of the right age. They all had the dual lights if they had a tank at all.
Tell her to take something gentle like a brass brush or a copper scouring pad to the rust on the fenders and rims. Anything harder (like steel wool, sandpaper, or scotchbrite) will haze the chrome. A little light oil on a rag will do wonders for the red paint.
Look real close for remnants of a name on the chainguard.
Ride with pride.
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          RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Possible Western Flyer Middleweight? posted by Luc Nicolet on 11/11/2009 at 10:58:55 AM
Thank you both so much for all of the info!
Here's a link to some closeup pics I took:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_long/sets/72157622783051146/

The rear rim/hub are not original, but the front does appear to be. The red paint is also not original, and is flaking off. The paint showing underneath appears to be a nice clear-coated blue, possibly the original paint. Soda blasting the red wouldn't be very cheap, so I'm considering just stripping the paint completely and repainting in whatever color she wants. Just so you know, I'm not trying to restore the bike, only "make it pretty to ride." ;-)
She started polishing the chrome last night using aluminum foil, and it really made a difference on the rear fender. Will try the brass/copper idea next.
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          RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Possible Western Flyer Middleweight? posted by ken on 11/13/2009 at 11:44:52 AM
I should have guessed- most of the girls' models from that 'family' were blue.
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AGE / VALUE:   Decals and Logos posted by: Ben Wright on 11/6/2009 at 9:19:42 PM
Hi,I'm a Balloon Tire collector.I'm also a screenprinter.
I want to make shirts with old logos,and I was wondering if anybody out there in bikeland can provide me with high-quality scans of decals or badges.They need to be at least 600-dpi.Tank designs would be pretty cool,too.
Thanks in advance.
-cheers,Ben Wright(organicgear@yahoo.com)
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Decals and Logos posted by ken on 11/16/2009 at 12:54:20 PM
Ben, have you looked at the badges and old adverts on Jim Langley's site?
jimlangley.net
Maybe he would hook up with you- some of those would make great shirts.
If a jpeg will work, I've got pictures of a couple of interesting badges.
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AGE / VALUE:   Need info on a Hiawatha 24" bike posted by: Dave De la Garza on 11/5/2009 at 9:12:45 PM
I am almost done restoring this old 1952 or 1953 Hiawatha bicycle that is a friend's childhood bike. He remembers getting in 1952-53 but it does have prewar type rear wheel droputs with the screws. I cannot find a Hiawatha/Shelby serial no. guide to confirm the year made. Serial no is: 8979111--it was bought new at Western Auto. My friend Bob wants to know what this bike cost when new and what year it was made. It holds sentimental value and it is coming together nicely. Thanks and you can emil me direct at thegarz@hotmail.com if you wish.


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BALLOON:   mystery part posted by: mark on 10/31/2009 at 6:22:05 PM
I have been looking at vintage bikes and noticed a cylinder mounted usually under top bar of frame, appears to go into the fender with a cable mount. The tube looks like a battery holder but im not sure, any info on this?


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          RE:BALLOON:   mystery part posted by jj on 11/1/2009 at 5:35:05 AM
Yep, a battery holder!
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          RE:BALLOON:   mystery part posted by Mark on 11/2/2009 at 5:36:10 PM
Thanks, I thought maybe it was a nitrous canister!
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AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Sterling posted by: David on 10/31/2009 at 12:39:52 PM
I just posted a question and discovered I accidentally posted it in for sale wanted lol so I want to post again in this section to see if I get an answer quicker then on that other page!.
I have a Columbia Sterling, Womans model big balloon tire bike!
I cannot find the age as the serial doesnt match this sites list! it seems to be 02621 oe 0262I
Baloon tires Carlisle Tire & Rubber Division, Lightening DART. No head badge, nice big fenders, Seat back says By Persons, Columbia, USA!
Normally I would expect to find a year stamped on the rear hub but there was nothing however the front hub had Germany 491 or 49I! My understanding was you add a year if the 49 is 1949 then I assume this is a 1950 bike but would like to know for certain! Thanks for any help, David...
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Sterling posted by ken on 11/1/2009 at 10:24:51 AM
DAvid, does it resemble any in the picture database on this site? There are also a few Columbias on the picture archive at nostalgic.net
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MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Rare ?? Schwinn Breeze posted by: Mike Gregg on 10/30/2009 at 3:44:55 PM
Hi, I have a 1972 Schwinn Breeze in near mint condition. I have searched many websites and have not found one like it. I think it is a deluxe model; it has a basket, bell and chrome fenders. The strange thing is that it is a five speed. All the ones I have seen are single or three speeds. Does anyone have knowledge on this bike?
Thanks, Mike
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          RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Rare ?? Schwinn Breeze posted by ken on 11/2/2009 at 11:41:25 AM
Mike, one of my favorite resources, the Schwinn Lightweight Data Book, appears to have gone off the web, but there may be other places where Schwinn consumer catalogs can be consulted. If you find one, would you post and let me know, please?
I'm sure that the chrome fenders were factory standard and the basket and bell were aftermarket. I believe, but would not testify under oath, that the Breeze could be ordered in those days with a choice of coaster brake, Sturmey three-speed, or five speed Schwinn-approved derailleur from France, probably Huret. If I'm right, I agree it's odd you don't see more of them. The bike boom was getting under way, and maybe folks who wanted derailleurs were going for the 27" Suburbans and Collegiates?
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          RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Rare ?? Schwinn Breeze posted by Steve on 11/13/2009 at 4:46:23 AM
I noticed the link was gone, too.I used that site quite a bit as well. I did find this that someone has saved, but a few pages are missing.Hope it helps !!

http://www.velobration.com/sldatabook/cover.html
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AGE / VALUE:   AMF Shelby posted by: Jace on 10/28/2009 at 9:27:28 AM
Hi- Someone just gave me a really nice vintage bicycle that
is a ladies "AMF Shelby"- I know that AMF was not a Shelby
manufacturer, but has anyone heard of a AMF Shelby??
Just curios, wondered about year it was manufactured- I think it must be around early 60's- any input??????
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BALLOON:   help to ID posted by: Boyd B. on 10/25/2009 at 8:44:04 PM
Picked up this bike recently,old balloon tire, note behind seat tube is single tube about five in. then forks out for rear tire. no head badge,26''all there please email me i can send pic. thank you
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AGE / VALUE:   MALE 26" WESTERN FLYER posted by: ROB on 10/25/2009 at 5:02:04 PM
THE AGE OF BIKE #247058
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AGE / VALUE:   1931? CCM 28" Wheels posted by: Quentin on 10/23/2009 at 4:00:58 PM
I found an old cmm in a barn the other day, it has 28" wheels and the biggest handle bars ive ever seen.
I've looked up the serial number on the internet and it comes up as a 1931. The serial number is SV6420, i would like to know if that is correct and maybe even what model it is. I would appreciate any help thank you.
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   1931? CCM 28 posted by Quentin on 10/23/2009 at 4:26:38 PM
Woops sorry the serial number is 8V6420
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   1931? CCM 28 posted by Quentin on 10/23/2009 at 4:43:46 PM
Here is a picture


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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   1931? CCM 28 posted by ken on 10/28/2009 at 11:04:03 AM
Can you clarify the tire size? Can the imprint on the tire be read?
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   1931? CCM 28 posted by Quentin on 10/30/2009 at 5:56:01 PM
The tire size is 28"x1-1/2 the tire make is swallow if that means anything.
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