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AGE / VALUE:áááNew Departure 2 Speed? posted by: Joe on 3/21/2010 at 9:51:25 PM
I was looking at this hub on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230452643447&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

I was thinking it might be a neat addition to a 1939 Western Flyer I have but am concerned about how old it was and whether or not it could have been an original part or not? The bike I have is a base model WF, made just before the war, but it's a good rider but I'd like a lower gear option. It's not a restored bike, just a clean old bike that I take out for a ride every so often.

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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááNew Departure 2 Speed? posted by chris on 4/27/2010 at 1:56:52 PM
these are cool hubs get it!
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááNew Departure 2 Speed? posted by alan on 5/2/2010 at 1:45:48 PM
yes it would be correct, some actually came on the 37 shelby airflow... i assume your western flyer is also shelby built as the did most department store models of that era
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BALLOON:áááLot of balloon bike stuff/Need info/For Sale-JC Higgins, Hawthorne, Golden Gate posted by: Troy Warnick on 3/21/2010 at 4:24:04 PM
Greetings,

I just acquired a lot of old balloon tire/middleweight bikes and parts. It will all be for sale as I am more into lightweights, but I have no idea of value or how to go about describing some of it. Please take a look at the following items and provide some info/ value estimates. I appreciate your input and expertise in advance!

J. C. Higgins ladies bicycle with tank, rack, and fenders. Jewels adorn the tank and rear rack. Skip tooth chain, New Departure hubs.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47915650@N06/sets/72157623666706316/

Hawthorne Trail Blazer with wooden rims, skip tooth chain.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47915650@N06/sets/72157623666702708/

F. M. Jones "Golden Gate" with wooden rims, skip tooth chain, really neat.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/47915650@N06/sets/72157623666691928/

There are some other photos in there of some wooden rims, New Departure hubs, Schwinn chainguards, etc.

Inquiries to purchase are welcome.

Many thanks,
Troy Warnick
Olympia, WA


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          RE:BALLOON:áááLot of balloon bike stuff/Need info/For Sale-JC Higgins, Hawthorne, Golden Gate posted by frankie on 3/27/2010 at 8:19:58 AM
Could you please let me know what the price is for the ladies JC Higgins bike? Don't know if you ship, but I'm in Calif. Thank you!
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          RE:BALLOON:áááLot of balloon bike stuff/Need info/For Sale-JC Higgins, Hawthorne, Golden Gate posted by frankie on 3/30/2010 at 6:25:23 PM
I've tried to pull up the photos from fliker, but no luck. Could you give me a price on the JC Higgins girls bike? Thank you!
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BALLOON:ááápeerless posted by: hector on 3/21/2010 at 5:56:17 AM
hi i have a peerless bicyles it must be from 1930 or early from all of the research i have done but i have not found any infro for the bike can anyone help
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          RE:BALLOON:ááápeerless posted by Cycleogical on 4/4/2010 at 3:37:21 PM
I had one of the few of these bikes in the SF Bay Area in 1993 it was stolen from me on the Oakland/Berkeley boarder near Ashby BART. It had fenders, drum breaks front and rear, a woman's step thru frame original color was light blue but I had painted flames on it. It had a huge Wald basket on the front. I lent it to a friend who needed to get home late at night when his car was impounded. He locked it to itself in the entryway of an apartment and it was gone in the morning. I had hand built this entire bike from scratch and spent two years on it. It broke my heart to loose it. If you decide to sell yours please let me know. Most of them were melted down in scrap steel drives during World War II to make weapons. The company Peerless made rifles for warfare and bicycles.
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          RE:BALLOON:ááápeerless posted by will on 7/12/2010 at 10:46:47 AM
I have a peerless bike does anyone know where to find any info on it??
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AGE / VALUE:Serial numbers posted by: Scott on 3/18/2010 at 7:52:44 PM
Has anybody ever come up with a bike that has no serial number? I have come across a few lately. Ideas?
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:Serial numbers posted by yhdy on 3/20/2010 at 10:50:13 PM
i found this challenger on the bottom under where the peddles go it says B88 or thats what it looks like i changed the peddles tires and hanle bars


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:Serial numbers posted by yhdy on 3/20/2010 at 10:51:11 PM
i found this challenger on the bottom under where the peddles go it says B88 or thats what it looks like i changed the peddles tires and hanle bars


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:Serial numbers posted by yhdy on 3/22/2010 at 3:21:54 PM
does anybody know what it could be the second picture i messed upn the first
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AGE / VALUE:áááUnknown Age of a B.F. Goodrich posted by: Anthony Matthews on 3/17/2010 at 10:58:34 AM
I have an old B.F. Goodrich bicycle. The frame plate says, "Challenger", and the chain guard says "Vanguard 2(in Roman Numerals). I have had the bicycle since I was atleast 10 or so, I am currently 26. I used to ride it all over and can still air up the same tires and ride it now for a short time before the air starts letting out. I was given the bicycle by my great uncle. I am seeking more information on it pertaining to the value and the age of it. I have taken down the following markings from the frame.
Back Left Dropout: In sequence of how it is stamped

MO7 .10x8 433540

Front Left Fork: Top of Flat Portion

M in a circle

Rear Wheel Brand: Kome 1
Super

Rear Wheel Hub Markings: F&S J
KOME 1
Super
161 36

I am seeking any and all information. The paint is starting fade off quite a bit but has never been repainted. It still has its maroon paint on most of it though. It does have both fenders in good shape with the rear one with the reflector intact. If you could help me that would be greatly appreciated. Sorry I do not have any pictures yet. I will try to get some soon. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Anthony Matthews
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááUnknown Age of a B.F. Goodrich posted by ken on 3/18/2010 at 9:23:57 AM
What size tires?
it's a Komet hub:
http://3speedblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/komet-hub-identified.html

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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááUnknown Age of a B.F. Goodrich posted by Anthony Matthews on 3/18/2010 at 11:07:20 AM
If memory serves me right it is 26".
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:áááUnknown Age of a B.F. Goodrich posted by ken on 3/19/2010 at 11:50:31 AM
I meant, balloon or middleweight.
I was thinking the number format looked like Murray, but I wouldn't bet. Does anyone know of another maker with a dozen-digit serial like that?
Meanwhile, Anthony, better get some pictures going.
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááUnknown Age of a B.F. Goodrich posted by Drane on 4/15/2011 at 1:48:43 AM
I too have a kome1 super 161 96. its on my AMC, made by murray. far as ive been able to come up with is that its 1950s. Thats all I got.
drane1@live.com
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááUnknown Age of a B.F. Goodrich posted by Gary M on 4/15/2011 at 7:38:32 AM
I had a prewar BF Goodrich, it was a cleveland welding bike, specifically a rebadged Western Flyer.
Most of the time its easiest to get an idea of the age of the bike by its vendor supplied parts, so apicture is the most valuable thing you can give us.
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááUnknown Age of a B.F. Goodrich posted by Gary M on 4/15/2011 at 7:38:34 AM
I had a prewar BF Goodrich, it was a cleveland welding bike, specifically a rebadged Western Flyer.
Most of the time its easiest to get an idea of the age of the bike by its vendor supplied parts, so apicture is the most valuable thing you can give us.
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MIDDLEWEIGHT:áááSchwinn Chainguard rear mounting screw posted by: John Zuiss on 3/13/2010 at 10:49:28 AM
Can anyone tell me the specs on the rear mounting bolt for the "standard" chain guard for the 26" bikes? I lost one and don't want to pay $6 on ebay if it is something I can find at the local hardware store. My quick research had some info at 10/32 tapered. Does this sound correct or is it truly a schwinn unique part? A not very interesting post, but I want to finish this bike. Thanks
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          RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:áááSchwinn Chainguard rear mounting screw posted by John Z on 3/13/2010 at 1:52:11 PM
Found the answer. Just a standard 10-32. The frame threads were just damaged a bit and I cleaned them up with a tap. Thanks for the information.
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AGE / VALUE:áááAMC VIII posted by: Jim Copen on 3/7/2010 at 11:38:24 AM
I came across an old bike that I think is an AMC VIII.It has the tank that extends past the front of the frame with headlight and horn the headlight has a red white and blue AMC logo on it.I can't find anything about it online and of the two bicycle shops in my town neither knows what it is.The serial number is 64x96 155167.

I have never seen a serial number like this and can't find a way to track it.Another thing this bike has is a rack on the front that looks like a springer,but it's nota springer front end.Does anyone know anything about this bike? I tried to post a picture of it and a Graco mx 1000 on here,but I don't think the upload worked.If anyone can tell me what I have it would be greatly appreciated.
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááAMC VIII posted by ken on 3/12/2010 at 11:16:32 AM
Jim, I sent you an email asking for a picture. You can attach it to a reply.
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:áááAMC VIII posted by ken on 3/17/2010 at 10:55:35 AM
Jim's bike is a Murray-built with the Spaceliner frame, circa 1965. My question now is, who or what does AMC signify? Anybody know of a chain store or something by that name?
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BALLOON:áááCurious to Anyone know Old Columbia's? posted by: Gary on 3/4/2010 at 11:17:05 PM
Hi All ( sorry for long read lol)
I bought this old Columbia w/ the idae of making into a Clunker. I found the vin# here and found out the frame is a 1937 Columbia.It has a built in kickstand and I beleive the original tank and rack. I klnow the forks have been changed and I am curious if this had the floating springer at one time.Also curious to what type chain guard belongs on it, the round type of small sleek type? Also if it is suppose to be skip tooth sproket as well?? It also has 5 stars on the top of the rack. Any help would be gratley appreciated and helping to determine to clunker it ,ride it the way it is w/ a few newer additions or find the original parts to make it correct.
Gary


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          RE:BALLOON:áááCurious to Anyone know Old Columbia's? posted by Gary on 3/4/2010 at 11:28:52 PM
Wow,sorry for the bad spelling as well,It's been a long night at work.....
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BALLOON:ááá1949 shelby donald duck male/female bicycle for sale posted by: Perky on 3/2/2010 at 5:44:38 PM
I am looking to purchase a male and a female 1949 shelby donald duck bicycles and would like to know what to look for before purchasing these rare bic,s.I believe they have been restored does this bring the value down?He is asking 2,300 for them both,I believe they are each valued at 3,500 for each bic.Please give me some insight on this.
Thanks,
Perky
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          RE:BALLOON:ááá1949 shelby donald duck male/female bicycle for sale posted by jr on 3/5/2010 at 9:13:16 AM
Restored bikes are generally worth less than originals. If it were restored by one of the few people who know how to do it properly then the value might be comparable. I would say that the price is fair IF they are properly and professionally restored, no bargain, around top dollar in the current market..


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AGE / VALUE:áááRollfast posted by: Mike Stepp on 3/1/2010 at 8:32:21 PM
Found this Rollfast at a church yard sale .Does anyone know anything about it? It has a springer suspension front end.


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááRollfast posted by ken on 3/4/2010 at 11:33:56 AM
Any luck, Mike? That's a sweet springer- I couldn't find a Rollfast photo on Oldroads or on nostalgic.net that has one like it.
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AGE / VALUE:áááwestern Flyer posted by: Jonathon on 2/23/2010 at 2:26:55 AM
Im sry about the earlier post i didnt have the pic right here the bike is if you can help me with a year range on it i would really be thankful...i know its a 5 speed with the western flyer sticker on front i found it rusted and in the woods just restored it...anyways thank for any answers


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááwestern Flyer posted by ken on 2/23/2010 at 12:06:31 PM
Is that a one piece crank? Does it take 26x1 3/8 tires? Are the bars, rims and/or hubs aluminum? (I'd expect steel with a one piece crank.)
The handlebars are upside down. See if there's anything etched on the bars. Hubs often have some info on them too.
If the derailleur hanger is part of the dropout, that's an indicator too.
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááwestern Flyer posted by Jonathon on 2/23/2010 at 7:02:18 PM
It has 27 1 1/4 tires i looked around on the bike and could not find any serial number anywhere checked the hubs, handle bars,under saet nothing..the derailleur hanger is seprate of the dropout and the crank is one peice
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááwestern Flyer posted by Jonathon on 2/23/2010 at 7:11:18 PM
The rims,bars,and hubs are like you expected steel
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:áááwestern Flyer posted by ken on 2/24/2010 at 12:42:29 PM
Well, it's a low-priced bike-boom machine. Say mid-70s - early 80s. You could get closer if you had the components. The frame could have been made in the US if it was early in that period, or in the far east. No real value. At that time you could buy a ten-speed at any hardware store, department store or general store in America if you didn't care how much it weighed (the bike, not the store...).
If it had a three-piece crank it would be a candidate for singlespeed, since there's no derailleur hanger. That's what I'd do anyway, probably, unless there's hilly country involved.
There's a Wikipedia article about Western Auto Stores which mentions the Western Flyer. The article also says there's a book about Western Auto which might have some detail. Does anyone know how long Western Auto sold bikes?

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          RE:AGE / VALUE:áááwestern Flyer posted by Jonathon on 2/24/2010 at 2:20:57 PM
Thanks for all the info its kinda cool to know alil background.. not really worried about the value i wanted a university of alabama bike cause i dont know anyone here with one still got some work to go and i have the derailleur hanger just haven't put it on yet but was thinking about changing it to a single. but yea thanks for every thing
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AGE / VALUE:áááwestern Flyer posted by: Jonathon on 2/23/2010 at 2:20:04 AM
I have looked everywhere to try and figure out when this bike could have been made. Can anyone help me with this please never seen these handle bars before i am restoreing it thanks so much o and its a 5 speed


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AGE / VALUE:áááMonark Silverking posted by: cody on 2/18/2010 at 10:12:41 AM
Looking for value/ age of a monark silverking.( brigadier) MODEL # SK50. Any info would be helpful. Thank you.

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AGE / VALUE:ááá monark silver king model 1318 posted by: Greg Frazier on 2/16/2010 at 11:26:27 AM
What year is my Monark Silver King Deluxe Ladies bike? It has 20in wheels. Model # 1318 & Serial #a0417451
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AGE / VALUE:╩╩╩Help to decipher Evans serial number/model posted by: Suppo on 2/13/2010 at 11:50:05 AM
Hey there enthusiasts. I have an Evans that I'm trying to get info on. Wondering what the year and model is and its value. Serial # E or F 127648B26. It is a two-speed with a Bendix brake with square fenders and had an amateur restore done at some time. Looks great and shifts and rides beautifully. I need to sell this beauty. Any info/help would be tremendously appreciated.


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:╩╩╩Help to decipher Evans serial number/model posted by ken on 2/15/2010 at 11:55:19 AM
You might want to talk to Dave at Nostalgic.net- the one there
http://www.nostalgic.net/index.asp?S=arc/bicycles/1950%27s+Evans+Colson+deluxe%2Ejpg
isn't the same frame - yours has that cantilever style - by eye, I'm guessing yours might be a little later, mid to late 50s. Those look like middleweight tires, too.
Tom Findley says "The 2-speed cable operated hub was made from 1952 to 1961." A very cool feature.
http://www.trfindley.com/pgbndxhbs.html

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          RE:AGE / VALUE:╩╩╩Help to decipher Evans serial number/model posted by Suppo on 2/17/2010 at 9:14:41 AM
Thanks Ken, I'll check with Dave. Do you have any idea as to the value?
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:╩╩╩Help to decipher Evans serial number/model posted by ken on 2/18/2010 at 10:35:03 AM
Not I. This site has a list of asking prices, which are upper limits. You can track ebay. But the only true value is the price the seller will accept and the buyer will pay- which can only be determined by selling it-
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