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AGE / VALUE:   firestone 500 posted by: Claudia on 4/6/2008 at 7:27:11 PM
I have a Friestone 500 with a serial number W118959 does anyone know what year it might be? There was only one small decal on the front it is a small F in script. It is a great bike and I am in the process of restoring it. any help would be appreciated. thank you :)
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   firestone 500 posted by ken on 4/10/2008 at 10:51:54 AM
This is kind of a classic FAQ. Your bike was likely made by one of the big companies for Firestone to 'rebadge' and sell. Murray, Schwinn, Huffy,--some resellers bought bikes from more than one. You may need to get a fair idea of its age and narrow down where it may have come from before the serial number will be any help. You'll find that this site has most of the reliable serial number info posted, and that there isn't any cross-reference to determine maker from serial number (although some serial number formats start to look familiar).
If you can't post pictures, you can email (reasonably sized) ones to me.
So, to ID and date your bike you can look at pictures until you find one that has the same frame, chainwheel, stem and appointments as yours- and it might be a different brand, from the same maker. Or, you can post good clear pictures, from a number of angles, and let the old guys take a guess, which will probably get you in the ball park a lot quicker.
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BALLOON:   Shelby Donald Duck posted by: Patrick on 3/31/2008 at 6:30:00 AM
Hi, Was the DD bike made in a 26" model? Anybody have a pic? I'd also like to know when the Shelby Bike Co. stopped production.(out of business)Thanks. Pat
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WANTED:   Krusty tank for Black Phantom posted by: Eddie on 3/31/2008 at 4:19:08 AM
Looking for a tank for this Phantom rust and wear ok .email me at azhearseguy@yahoo.com Thanks

AGE / VALUE:   Blundered onto 2 bikes posted by: Ted on 3/28/2008 at 6:10:53 PM
A friend was cleaning out his mother's house and found 2 bikes that had been stored there for many years. Supposedly both were sold to a relative in 1941 at a Western Auto store. One is a ladies The World Schwinn with a serial number of H89804. The men's bike is more of a problem. The headbadge is gone, and I cannot find any make or model markings on the frame. It has a serial number on the bottom bracket shell, but the numbers/letters are a bit crude like they were hammered on by hand. As best as I can tell they are HJJ, and then below that 3186. The bike is a one speed coaster brake with new departure hubs front and rear. It has what I believe is called a skip link chain, and the saddle has what looks to be HOBDALE embossed on it. It has Firestone High Speed 2.125 tires on it.

Does anyone have a clue what this men's bike could be? Would anyone be intrested in these bikes?

I will try to find the camera to take some pictures, but until then, what do you think.


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Blundered onto 2 bikes posted by jj on 3/29/2008 at 5:23:10 AM
They both sound interesting.
What model is the New Departure rear hub? That will help date it.

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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Blundered onto 2 bikes posted by Ted on 3/29/2008 at 12:55:19 PM
It's a Model D on both bikes
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Blundered onto 2 bikes posted by Ted on 3/29/2008 at 1:48:24 PM
Here's my first attempt at posting a picture. First, the mystery bike.


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Blundered onto 2 bikes posted by Ted on 3/29/2008 at 1:50:05 PM
Second try!


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Blundered onto 2 bikes posted by Ted on 3/29/2008 at 1:52:28 PM
Yah, it worked. Now here is the Schwinn.


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Blundered onto 2 bikes posted by ken on 3/31/2008 at 10:52:15 AM
I think the problem bike might be a Huffman - chainguard and chainwheel look possible. 41 looks real close. Wonder if they made bikes for Western Auto?
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MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Help needed here to I.D this bike!! Help! posted by: Audrey on 3/21/2008 at 6:20:23 PM
Ok, this bike has the old leather seat with 3 springs, and 28"x1 1/2 tires, 36 spokes, the sprocket has 5 heart shaped cutouts, with little 3/4" circles too....I could find no name..and it looks like where the emblem used to be it's white, though now painted red, the front tire says Leicester Rubber co. Ltd. Granby Cord British Manufactured. The rear tire is United states No. 77 Giant chain Tread. There is also a red reflector on the back fender which has 19 circular raised nobs...and is about 2 1/2" across. Any suggestions on where to research,or what type-kind-etc. would be very much appreciated.... Thanks all!
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          RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Help needed here to I.D this bike!! Help! posted by ken on 3/24/2008 at 10:48:43 AM
Your tires are the kind that were going out of style in 1930. I looked at a lot of pictures on Nostalgic.net and didn't find one that I thought met your description. Take a look at
http://www.nostalgic.net/pictures/244.htm
or
http://www.nostalgic.net/index.asp?S=arc/bicycles/1924gendron%2Ejpg
or
http://www.nostalgic.net/index.asp?S=arc/bicycles/1920%27s+Mead+Ranger%2Ejpg
and see if your sprocket is similar.
Take good pictures. If you can post them to the web, we'd appreciate seeing them.
Dave's Vintage Bicycles is a good resource; the Wheelmen if your machine is older than 1918; the Classic and Antique Bicycle Exchange; National Bicycle History Archive, if it's still there...
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AGE / VALUE:   1964 mustang mattel balloon tire bicycle posted by: Wally on 3/21/2008 at 10:15:03 AM
I would like to get information concerning a 1964 mattel mustang bicycle that has one speed,shocks, all chrome,fenders,balloon tires, has a seat more like a motercycle, also has a platform for a varoom motor.
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BALLOON:   36 elgin oriole posted by: branche on 3/21/2008 at 9:52:01 AM
we are parting out what we are told is a 36 oriole ,this machine has 2 speed new departure, bluebird style rims , there is a vintage horn, crash bars with reflectors etc.. if there is something you can use for your project ,,contact wbranche@cfl.rr.com
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BALLOON:   Help with tires posted by: Bruce Noble on 3/20/2008 at 7:45:57 AM
Hi all, after much searching I find I now have to turn to you folks as the experts for hopefully some assistance with my dilemma!

Walking thru a swap meet last year, I spotted an old CCM bike I fell in love with. All it needed was a bit of TLC, which it has now had and will hopefully soon be on the road. I just need some tires… I did not suspect this would be such a big issue. I had ordered two sets of tires from my local bike shop before I realized there are definitely different rim sizes out there….. Can any of you good folks get me pointed in the right direction for a set of balloon whitewall tires for my new pride and joy?

Here are the details; the original (worn out tires) have stamped on the side of them the following: 26 x 1 ¾ x 2 – 650 x 50C (oversize 26 x 2 fits 26 x 1 ¾ rim F 12) Made in Holland, Parragon with a V in a circle.

I also measured the rim and the inside measurement at the shoulder of the rim is 1.015 and the overall outside measurement is 1.50, with the closest profile I can find to that is a Schwin S7 I think. Also the overall outside diameter of the rim is 23 inches.

Well any advice and help on what and where to find tires would be really appreciated... and where the heck is that letter that notes the year hiding? I can't find it!

Many thanks, Bruce

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          RE:BALLOON:   Help with tires posted by ken on 3/20/2008 at 11:26:02 AM
http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
http://sheldonbrown.com/rim-sizing.html

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MISC:   Schwinn Speedster ( F991638) posted by: dave m. on 3/16/2008 at 5:58:15 AM
I have a green Speedster with a serial # of F991638. It came with 24 X 1 3/4 tires. also with a rack on the back. can anyone PLEASE tell me what year it is AND if those are the right sized tires. I'd like to convert it to 26 in. tires and rims. is it possible? thanks
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          RE:MISC:   Schwinn Speedster ( F991638) posted by jj on 3/16/2008 at 6:12:36 AM
If it originally came with 24" wheels, the 26" wheels won't fit.
Since one the the tire dimensions is 1 3/4, I'd guess those are the original wheels.
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          RE:MISC:   Schwinn Speedster ( F991638) posted by Gordon on 3/16/2008 at 6:19:52 AM
According to the charts on this site, your bike was made in June of 1959. Your 24 inch S7 wheels have a greater diameter than non-Schwinn 24 inch wheels, but I doubt if it is enough to allow you to substitute 26 inch. It wouldn't hurt to try though, you never know.
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          RE:RE:MISC:   Schwinn Speedster ( F991638) posted by ken on 3/18/2008 at 11:36:14 AM
Gordon's response made me go back to
http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
again. We miss you, Sheldon! Mr. Brown does not mention S-7; only S-5; and he does not mention 24x1 3/4.
However-the difference in radius between two sizes he does list, the 24" S-5 (547) and the 'decimal' 24x (507), is 3/4 of an inch, whereas the difference between 24" S-5 and standard 26" mountain rim (559) is about 1/4" radius. I give you a fair chance of success with 26" mountain wheels if you use smallish slicks.
Gordon, It's about time somebody published a clear explanation of Schwinn's 'S' rim designations, perhaps with the dates each was used and sizes. It won't be me- I'm confused by it, and always refer back to the above site. Sheldon lists S-7 as 26x1 3/4, S-6 as 26x1 3/8, and S-5 as 24x1 3/8, but I'm sure I've seen Schwinn OE tires labeled 'to fit S-5 or S-6 rims ...am I dreaming? What do you say?
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          RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Schwinn Speedster ( F991638) posted by Gordon on 3/18/2008 at 5:15:04 PM
I wish that I felt confident enough to write a Schwinn wheel size chart, but I'm afraid my knowledge is limited as well. Here is what I do know about the infamous Schwinn "S" wheels. The S2 was available in 20, 24 and 26 inch and they took standard size tires. The S7 was also available in 20, 24 and 26 but required 1 3/4 width tires made specifically for S7. The S5 and S6 came in 20, 24 and 26 and required the same tires, 1 3/8 inch made for Schwinn S5 or S6. I know I left out some things, such as the S4, but I don't want to put down anything I'm not confident is correct.
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          RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Schwinn Speedster ( F991638) posted by ken on 3/19/2008 at 11:12:19 AM
That's excellent. Thank you.

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          check this out posted by Gary M on 3/24/2008 at 10:49:01 AM
I have a Schwinn 27x1 1/4 rim, with a narrow Knurle and guess what is clearly stamped on it? S6!
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          RE:check this out posted by ken on 3/25/2008 at 11:02:51 AM
See, that's what I'm talking about, Gary. We're making progress here: apparently S-6 comes in 630 (27"), 597 (26x1 3/8) , and maybe 571 too? (schwinn 26x1 3/4?) - as well as 20s and 24s!
Everybody check your Schwinn middleweights - we should get a list of what years which rim series were used. We can figure out when S-6 morphed into S-7 maybe... where's Schwinnderella? Where's Mark bunch-o-bikes? These guys oughta have this already...
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          RE:RE:check this out posted by Don D on 4/4/2008 at 12:09:51 PM
My 1965 Schwinn Heavy Duti has the single gnurled S-7 rims w/ 1 3/4 Goodyear black wall tires.
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          RE:MISC:   Schwinn Speedster ( F991638) posted by nate on 10/12/2008 at 5:07:52 PM
My Scwinn unicycle marked S-7 had 24 in. whitewalls. The tire was also actually marked unicycle on the side.
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          RE:MISC:   Schwinn Speedster ( F991638) posted by micah on 12/7/2008 at 6:26:24 PM
hey i have a speedster 77 you know the 3 speed with the shifter in the hub i need i replacement can anyone help out...thanks
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          RE:MISC:   Schwinn Speedster ( F991638) posted by Patrick on 12/11/2008 at 1:28:23 AM
Hi,An offbrand (non Schwinn) middleweight 26" wheel/tire might squeeze past the rear fender mount. You can probably find a cheap doner bike @ any Thrift Store. As for the Schwinn rims S-2,S-7 ect. They are Schwinn specific sizes,in other words you have to buy tires made for these rims.It does you no good trying to convert diameters fom an off brand to Schwinn. That Sheldon Brown site should and probably does state this fact. The tires are still readily available,just more expensive. Check the link I've posted for a diagram of Schwinn rims.Good luck,Patrick


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AGE / VALUE:   New Departure Hub posted by: john on 3/13/2008 at 2:24:54 PM
I've rebuilt a number of New Departure (D) hubs and I know the inner hub, bearings, and other parts get grease, but what about the Disks. Does anybody know the "approved" method? Should they be oiled before assembly or greased. Thanks. john
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          RE:AGE / VALUE: New Departure Hub posted by Antony on 4/9/2008 at 9:39:38 AM
The original literature that I have from ND states that it only needs 20 weight oil. Whether or not that still holds true with today's advanced lubes, probably not.
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AGE / VALUE:   iver johnson posted by: doug silva on 3/10/2008 at 11:06:53 AM
would like to know how to tell year of iver johnson bike. it has 2 speed hub and shifter on cross bar.thank you for any info
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          RE:AGE / VALUE: iver johnson posted by paul on 3/10/2008 at 1:16:54 PM
the ones from the 1930's may would have inch pitch, "skip tooth" chainwheel, sprocket and chain. The cross bar may have another "arched" cross bar under the top straight bar. The wheels may be steel clad wooden rims with tubular tires (no tubes inside) if from the 1940's or later may have steel wheels/ rims but also may have inch pitch drive system. paul
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: iver johnson posted by doug silva on 3/10/2008 at 2:01:05 PM
thahk for reply. do you know how i can find exact year it was made? and value? i think 2 speed hub is rare

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BALLOON:   Shelby/Hiawatha posted by: Jeff on 3/10/2008 at 7:16:04 AM
I just bought what appears to be shelby/hiawatha scout.I havent been able to find any info about this model.It does have a skip tooth with springer front.I'm brand new to this hobby and any help would be appreciated.Got a steal on this bike and it is rideable. Am looking to restore. Was told it was pre-war 41 vintage. Does this sound about right?
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          RE:BALLOON:   Shelby/Hiawatha posted by broadsteroise on 3/10/2008 at 9:42:58 PM
What! You stole that bike......Auto be ashamed...........
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          RE:BALLOON: Shelby/Hiawatha posted by jeff on 3/11/2008 at 6:53:39 AM
Lol...The air in the tires is what cost me the most.
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BALLOON:   year of manufacture posted by: brett on 3/9/2008 at 3:19:26 PM
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BALLOON:   year of manufacture posted by: brett on 3/9/2008 at 3:08:12 PM
according to the serial # charts, my schwinn cantilever frame is a 1961 -
i believe it is an earlier model - serial # on bottom of crack is E197094 -
it has the factory indentations for the whizzer belt -
headbadge is planes, trains model -
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MIDDLEWEIGHT:   identification posted by: Ingo on 3/8/2008 at 11:41:14 AM
I need help identifying a vintage bicycle, at least pre 1974. It is missing the headbadge but was fastened with two vertically placed rivets. It has twin top tubes that run from the neck to the rear axle mount. Twin tubes also below that intersect with the upper tubes just before the vertical seat post section. All connections are brazed, except the rear axel mounts that are inserted into the frame ends. Serial number is on bottom crank housing, R6333731. It also has two small holes on the back of the neck. Was originally a bright red.
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