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MISC:   Old Schwinn and Raleigh dealer Open House - 28-APR-02 posted by: Menotomy Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 4/9/2002 at 4:28:41 PM
A shop in our area (Massachusetts) is having an Vintage Bicycle sale on Sunday, April 28, 2002.
They are placing all of their new bikes downstairs and filling their shop floor with over 100 vintage bicycles including a 47 WHIZZER.
They've been a Schwinn/Raleigh dealership since 1969 and have some great bikes.
We'll be posting a larger notice with directions, pictures and more info shortly. In the meantime, mark your calendars!

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AGE / VALUE:   Flying bicycle, did it work or not? posted by: ChristopherRobin2_atsign_starmail.com on 4/4/2002 at 1:00:05 AM
This article I have mentions that this professor's flying bicycle project was discontinued for lack of funds.
Lack of funds? I don't believe that.

It was supposed to fly at 60 feet for a 30 mile radius. Now next thing he's transferred to another project,
Worked on re- entry problems for space vehicles!
Space vehicles for Gods sake!
Hoo- boy. I got dizzy!
I think the flying bicycle was real, real enough that somebody took notice and gave this fellow some "Real work to do"
Discontinued? No, I think not.

If he was a crackpot, idiot, nitwit and the flying bicycle was a failure then why promote him to important work.
This was 40 years ago too.
So come on here, the flying bicycle has been done already. Think of it as somebody's mid term project that got him or her sent on to better projects. Or was the newspaper writer smoking something and pulling my leg.
Then why write it and in something trade related and respectable? Now if I find him and ask about it. he'll say "Now I can't talk to you about that!" and even if he didn't say that and let you in on it, you likely would wish to heaven you never met the man nor seen what is covered up in the barn shed.
imaginary scene:
Roger that, 10 4 we have a flying bicycle, 10 4 over!
requesting assistance, over. I'm shaking them off me (trying to) yelling, What?? I got this in a garage sale!

What happened to this man and the prototype bike/ plane I'll never know and it's probably better this way.
But, If I do manage to come up with something like this I hope I get to work on important things like he did!

Better to say that it crashed, the fellow was weird and crazy and whatever you do, Don't tell me he went on to work on something important sounding like space work. IT sounds too legitimate when they say that.

Article say's "A Frenchman" anyways! So who will know!

          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Flying bicycle, did it work or not? posted by sam on 4/5/2002 at 12:19:04 AM
Sept.1931-Glide-O-Bike Company Lock Box 266,Dallas Tex. Friends here is my 25cents.please rush my Glide-o-Bike Plans along with air terms and airport instructions.

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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Speedibike Motor posted by: JimW. on 3/31/2002 at 9:31:00 PM
A friend recently sent me a set of photocopied pages from a
book published by Johnson-Smith in 1938. Yes, that's the catalog with the X-Ray Spex. The book is titled
"How To Build Midget Racers", and it covers the basics of building small vehicles of various kinds, even a seaplane!
This book actually serves as a kind of catalog of plan sets
for the various vehicles. One short chapter on "Motorizing Your Bicycle". What the chapter was actually selling was
a bike motor sold by Johnson-Smith. Called "Speedibike" it
featured rear wheel friction drive, with a large lever for disengagement. It cost $59.95 at that time. That was a fair amount of money, but I'd think they would have sold a lot of them. How come I've never heard of it before? Chances are that J-S didn't make it themselves, but got them somewhere else. I have an illustration showing the set-up, but it looks pretty generic, engine-wise.

          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Speedibike Motor posted by JimW. on 3/31/2002 at 9:44:55 PM
I just ran a search and didn't find much info, but I did find that Evinrude made it. I want one.

          RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Speedibike Motor posted by Rif on 4/2/2002 at 2:59:27 AM
Me too! :-}

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WANTED:   LOOKING FOR DAYTON MOTORBIKE OF FRAME posted by: Brian on 3/24/2002 at 3:48:13 AM
I have a Dayton bicycle motor circa 1917 and am looking for a frame. The motor fits in the front fork. Would buy or trade complete bike also.

          RE:WANTED:   LOOKING FOR DAYTON MOTORBIKE OF FRAME posted by sam on 3/25/2002 at 12:25:16 AM
Brian can you email me a photo of this? I just finished building a teens Dayton and would really like to see this motor---sam

          RE:WANTED:   LOOKING FOR DAYTON MOTORBIKE OF FRAME posted by Bill on 4/3/2002 at 9:36:56 PM
I have a fairly complete Dayton, but need some spares. Would you consider selling your engine?

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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Whizzer Gas Tank posted by: Jimmy on 3/23/2002 at 3:52:57 PM
hello, Yesterday I finished painting a Whizzer gast tank, the one with WHIZZER stamped into it, and now I want one to restore or paint, I found a few on ebay but does anyone make a reproduction for a cheaper price?I only want it to paint and maybe sell.These gas tanks are pretty neat! and I would enjoy producing my own paint job. Any help would be appreciated!!Thanks.

          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Whizzer Gas Tank posted by JimW. on 3/25/2002 at 6:27:38 AM
The Whizzers are being made again, and you can buy tanks from them. I don't know if they're cheap, and I kind of doubt that the Whizzer logo is stamped in the metal. Looks more like a decal to me. See the catalog page at:

          RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Whizzer Gas Tank posted by Chris on 4/3/2002 at 9:06:27 PM
Mr. Honda who already had 100 patents to his name took a good look at the Whizzer bike comming from Pontiac, Michigan. Then he used army two stroke engines that ran on pine tree root extract. He put the engines on not heavy, gaudy balloon tire bikes but onto the Japaneese version of English rod brake bikes with the 28 inch wheels.

This was the start of the Honda Motor Company. Fuel was scarce in immediate post war ruined Japan and once they got the thing started it ran alone just fine. Pine tree root extract! Then another two models of motorized bicycle.
Then a European factory, then agressive marketing in Britain.
The Early Honda 50 was equiped with decent leg sheild farings and a standard clutch where as Raleigh and ALL the other manufacturers made you pay for and order a fairing.

The Honda was powerful, key word here is R-E-L-I-A-B-L-E,
leg shields kept you dry. It was far ahead of all the competion and there was a lot of it for the Japaneese in the late 50's early 1960's. The British and Italians and French but especially the British took it apart, got a look at what they were up against and they were saying "Oh Sh**!" This was the end of the Raleigh Moped, Phillips Panda, Norman Nippy, N.S.U., Phillips Gadabout, Hercules Corvette moped and a good deal of other names too. Soon it was all gone. A memory. I have an very early Honda 50 Moped but I still love to collect the Brit stuff.
First motorizerd bicycles running on alternative fuel
then the scooter market
light trucks
later the luxury car market
One article mentions light aircraft as something they were looking to get into. However I am not certain what they did with aircraft as I have not yet heard of Honda planes.
It knocked me on my butt to learn the Mitsubishi Zero was designed by Howard Hughes! Our Howard Hughes! They stole the plans and built it! Light, agile, able to turn on a dime and then open fire on our guys. That was not good people! Not at all!

When the **** (and ******* too) lawn mower engine balked at tall, wet grass I mumbled "This is Bull- Shi!" I looked into the trailer of the professional companies. Guess what the small machines were? Decks with HONDA ENGINES!

So I pulled off the ***** and ********* engine off and tossed it out. I didn't even have to drill in the mower deck. It droped in easily, ran so nicely, never hesitates for a second in wet grass neither. It was a good "marriage" the Honda engine with the ***** self propelled 5 speed selector, deck and drawer type grass catcher. You see the pros need and depend on this equipment so, It has to be reliable. So why not me too? And besides, I went into business on the back of this reliable engine.
The mower shop guys had a real fit, angry! But now I only need them for a belt or some small part and thankfully and surprisingly, the ******* gearbox is fairly reliable.

Now Honda Marine engines too! Think of it! No problems out on the lake, just fishing, boating, water sking as God intended!
If Preston Tucker had a diffrent mindset and system behind him like Mr. Honda did, things would be very diffrent. America would have been much, much better off.
Given the choice, I would rather hang with Preston too.
American styling, the luxery of a Cadillac or Lincoln with real reliability under the hood and innovation not stupidity at the companies and dealerships. It could have been truly glorious.
The inventions concieved here on the home soil are wonderful and incredible. This country is not made up of "Spinger" but BRILLIANT, SHARP, INTELLIGENT, and INVENTIVE people.
I sat throught the movie "Black Hawk Down" and my prayer is this. Just do not send us into war or conflict with antiquated, unreliable, obsolete garbage. If somebody can hit a tail rotor and bring the whole thing down with a domino effect unfolding, and everything getting worse and more lives lost then it has to be re- thought. Hit a tail rotor with a single missle? My brothers and contrymen in that helicopter? Then the helicopter as a tool has to go. Or be made secure. It's not acceptable, it's obsolete and stupid.
Look, the television, V.C.R. industry, scooters, cars, trucks and the rest of it is bad enough. But the Military Equipment needs to be updated. The military men need to sit down and talk with the modern day Honda, Tucker, Tesla type genius and look at "Black Hawk Down"
and ask "What can we do diffrently?"

Our soldiers should not die of bullet wounds anymore. Not in the New Age of Technology. We solved many problems 80 years ago, with brilliant minds working on stuff since. So where is it? Night vision goggles are a good start. Now protect men, machinery,buildings, and the country.

If you were to go to Nikola Tesla or others and tell them and show them the bloody bodies of wounded or dead soldiers and ask for his help what would he say to you?
Perhaps, "They won't let me work on it" Or "They won't spend money to build it, son." Do they not realize untold trouble could be avoided by some little electronic gizmo that was invented by some guy in his garage in South Dakota in 1928?
Why do we waste and hamper,and surpress the life work of innovative minds in our this country? I'm sick of hearing
"It is the American way"
The America I believe in, is a glorious, smarter,better place than what we see today.

We do not need to cry like King Peter of Serbia did in 1942. We have made progress since.

It's like you love something dearly, and it is a thing to be proud of, A thing that is special like nothing else. And then what gets in the way and wrecks it is some stupid, small thing. A life draining mindset from among your own people. No less.

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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   hekp please... posted by: Rif Addams on 3/22/2002 at 4:05:13 PM
Hi All,
I am seeking any and all info concerning a 1903 circa California Motor Bicycle.
Any old photos, advertisements, specifications, ANYTHING at all.
a few of us are working on building a near replica, but only have a few rough xerox pictures.
Can anyone at all be of assistance?!?!
Thanks in advance,
Rif :-}


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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Electric anyone? posted by: Jym on 3/19/2002 at 1:53:20 PM
Anyone here experimenting with electric bicycles?
And what do you think about "Ginger" or "It" or the "Segway Scooter"? - It has too many names, but it is that scooter with 2 wheels side-by-side.

          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Electric anyone? posted by Rif on 3/25/2002 at 6:27:16 AM
It doesn't go fast enough.

          RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Electric anyone? posted by JimW. on 3/25/2002 at 6:54:24 AM
Neither do electric bikes. 8-)

          RE:RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Electric anyone? posted by Kim on 3/26/2002 at 2:52:19 PM
Yeah, nothing can beat gasoline for power.
Electric bicycles require too much weight (heavy batteries, heavy motors) to have any kind of range or performance.

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WANTED:   Antique vintage velosolex bicycle posted by: Michael Jones on 3/16/2002 at 7:21:30 PM
Velosolex; l949 through l963 or newer, before th production of the l9" rim size. The frame would be our 26 and 1/2" size. I am willing to pay top dollar for a well
running solex. However, I would be interested in a solex of any condition.

          RE:WANTED:   Antique vintage velosolex bicycle posted by FYI on 3/20/2002 at 7:33:29 PM
Try Lazy Walker Bike Shop. Velosolex dealer, bike collector, cool website.

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WANTED:   Antique vintage velosolex bicycle posted by: Michael Jones on 3/16/2002 at 7:21:30 PM
Velosolex; l949 through l963 or newer, before th production of the l9" rim size. The frame would be our 26 and 1/2" size. I am willing to pay top dollar for a well
running solex. However, I would be interested in a solex of any condition.

          RE:WANTED:   Antique vintage velosolex bicycle posted by bob pendl on 10/12/2002 at 10:00:08 PM
I just got one of these bikes. Dont know nothing about them. Can you tell me how to tell what year they are?? and wear can I get parts for one of these?? I was surprised it runs and drives but it is missing the chain. Let me know you help would be appreacaited.
Thanks Bob

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WANTED:   vintage/antique velosolex bicycle posted by: Michael JONES on 3/16/2002 at 7:06:28 PM
l949 through l963 velo solex bicycle. It would be kin to our26 and 1/2 fram size of 30 years ago. I am willing to pay good money for the best vintage velosolex to be found


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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Saddle Bags for Motorized Bikes posted by: Mike Schneider on 3/6/2002 at 6:34:00 PM
Got this messsage from a friend. Thought you might want to check it out.

I viewed them and bought 3 pair.

Have been putting paperboy rear baskets on my bikes in the past. Baskets run about $32.00 and are great. Figured I would try the bags. Most BIG Bikers have bags.

To member: msamigo
From member: paults2


Note that the Swiss saddle bags can be obtained from the Sportsmans Guide company for $5.97 a pair. See http://www.sportsmansguide.com and search swiss bags. The bags are also shown on a moped website to help people obtain low-cost saddle bags from Sportsmans Guide. I am not associated with the Sportsmans Guide company

          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Saddle Bags for Motorized Bikes posted by JimW. on 3/7/2002 at 7:06:24 PM
Sportsman's Guide is a great source for stuff like that. The merch always lives up to the descriptions, the prices are great, and they have fast order fulfillment. I get most of my wardrobe from them. Where else can you get black jungle boots as good as anyone else's for about $10 a pair?

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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   araya rims on a whizzer posted by: virgil elings on 3/3/2002 at 3:44:48 AM
I have a whizzer special from the late 50's or early 60's and it has Araya 26" rims. When did Araya start making rims and does anyone know if they were supplied on Whizzers?


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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   K$S Bike Machine posted by: Ed Lawrence on 2/27/2002 at 11:21:28 PM
Does anyone have an owners manual for the K&S Bike machine
That I could buy a photocopy of?
Anyone know of a parts resource?

          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   K$S Bike Machine posted by Mike Schneider on 2/28/2002 at 5:56:34 PM

www.moped2.org has the K&S Bike Machine listed in their grouping of Bicycle Motors.

They might be a resource for you. Appears several folks have asked similar questions could be a contact in that group with information.

Sometimes gathering information on these little jewels takes a lot of effort and patience.

Best of Luck


          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   K$S Bike Machine posted by Scott Nelson on 4/16/2002 at 9:44:20 PM
Did you find a copy of the Bike Amchine manual? If not e-mail me. I got a new machine in the box yesterday and it has a manual. I would be glad to copy it for antone who would like it. Let me know.

          RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   K$S Bike Machine posted by Larry Wlos on 2/25/2003 at 8:37:47 PM
Scott I need a copy of the manual for the K&S bike machine

          RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   K$S Bike Machine posted by John Hadley on 1/14/2004 at 4:38:55 AM

Been searching the net for weeks on the Bike Machine. I had one as a teen, and boy was it great. Was looking for another to relive the old days, as mine went kaput when I got car driving age. My pop tossed it. Where did you get it, how much did you pay, and do they have another??? Please reply! Was looking at the new Honda 4 stroke, but I know the reliability of the K&S unit. Thanks!

          RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   K$S Bike Machine posted by steve stout on 1/18/2008 at 2:30:04 PM
just checking if my response went through. i have a k$s bike machine as well i have had it for years. e mail if interested. ss

          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   K$S Bike Machine posted by cosmo on 3/27/2008 at 11:23:41 AM
does any one want to sell a bike machine how much got one now but want a loner for dates cosmopena@yahoo.com

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FOR SALE:   1983 Aqua Bug Bike Bug QBM23 posted by: Ian Foley on 2/27/2002 at 10:34:58 PM
I have a 1983 Bike Bug, with less then 200 hours on it. Mainly rode it through 2 years of high school, then garaged it for many, many years with intermittent short jaunts on it. It ran great 1.5 years ago, but the roller/drive wheel needs replacing. I'd be interested in offers, and willing to negotiate price. I only know what I paid for it new, but don't know what they're worth now, being vintage 20 years old, and in good running order and physical condition.

Any offers, just email me at: ifoleycrc@yahoo.com. I look forward to hearing from you.

          RE:FOR SALE:   1983 Aqua Bug Bike Bug QBM23 posted by john on 3/22/2002 at 10:40:02 PM
To get your drive to work, you might, and I say might, try this. Buy a soft radiator hose that you can just squeeze on over the remaining drive wheel and re-adjust for clearance.

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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Bike Bug QBM23 parts list and diagram posted by: Ian Foley on 2/27/2002 at 10:25:19 PM
Hey fellas. I found an email I received last year from Tanaka, which still sells parts for our old motors. The parts list if for the QBM23, the Aqua Bug Bike Bug manual version, rather than the automatic clutch version, but most is the same. She cites: "The roller, 231-36100-800, is still available at a retail of $33.93. The attached file is an acrobat reader (.pdf) file of the parts book for the bike motor. (There is also a QBM-23N/NA. Let me know if this is the incorrect book for your unit!) This will help you find any other part numbers for the parts you may need. Please call us before ordering any parts to check stock. Some of the parts for this motor have become no longer available.

We do sell these parts direct via Visa, Mastercard, or American Express. You can send in an order via email or phone us at (253) 333-1200. Or if you prefer you can mail a check or money order along with the part numbers you will need to the following address:

1028 4th Street SW #B
Auburn, WA 98001
Please let me know if I can be of any other assistance.
Thank you!
Amber Hamblin
Customer Service

I hope this helps everyone with their parts hunt. I know many, many of you have asked about the drive wheel/roller assembly. A bit pricey,but here it is! (Aren't our little motors worth it?!?)

Happy motoring,


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