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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Bike Bug posted by: JimW. on 12/15/2000 at 9:27:57 AM
Our friends at "Buzzing" the English motorbike site have a
current inquiry about information to do with the AquaBug motor, with a photo of one on a cute girl's bike.
It may be seen at: http://www.buzzing.org/index.htm
If anyone (Rif? Keith?) has any useful info on the subject to share, they'd appreciate it. There is no current phone
number for Aqua International in the NYC phone book.

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          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Bike Bug posted by Rif on 12/15/2000 at 5:58:43 PM
That is a pretty cool site. Right on...
The Bike-Bug motor is now being distributed through Tanaka American (so I've been told, I have yet to contact them myself) located in Kent, WA.
The phone # and addy are:
(253) 395-3900.
2241 72nd Ave S. #3
Kent, WA. 98032
Hope this helps out...
Rif




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AGE / VALUE:   whizzer motor bike posted by: Mr. Motormouth on 12/14/2000 at 5:11:40 PM
Never used 2.2 miles, black with white sidewall tires. perfect for Christmas. $1195.00 obo (909)393-2910

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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   What to buy??? posted by: Ben on 12/5/2000 at 8:38:41 PM
I'm considering buying a motorized bicycle. I was looking at motorizedbikes.com and saw some pretty nice ones. There low end model has a small engine, about 50cc, that achieves 30mph and 200 mpg. That one runs about $850 plus shipping. Any suggestions as to what/where else to buy? I would like something near those specs, 30+ mph, 150-200 mpg. Please email me and let me know what you know. benn112@yahoo.com

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          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   What to buy??? posted by Rickey Riley on 1/12/2001 at 7:00:02 PM
have for sale 1946 H model whizzer on schwinn frame restored runs like new , meets your specs $2,000.00




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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   whizzer posted by: jerry mahoney on 12/5/2000 at 6:26:32 PM
Looking for a used echo pipe for the early whizzer sportsman

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          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   whizzer posted by Knuclehead on 12/14/2000 at 5:38:31 PM
TRY MEMORY LANE CLASSICS.TALK TO HARV HE WILL HELP YOU WITH YOUR NEEDS. HE HAS A LARGE SELECTION OF WHIZZER PARTS.AT 419-832-3040 PERRYBERG OHIO




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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by: JAMES on 11/21/2000 at 11:57:29 PM
I JUST PURCHASED A NEW WHIZZER MOTORBIKE AND HAVE FIGURED OUT SEVERAL WAYS OF INCREASING THE POWER OF THE ENGINE. THE STOCK TOP SPEED OF MY BIKE WAS 24 MPH OUT OF THE BOX. I FIRST REMOVED THE FIBERGLASS BAFFLE IN THE MUFFLER. SECOND, REMOVED THE CYLINDER SHAPED RESTRICTOR IN THE INTAKE MANIFOLD, WHICH NETTED THE MOST POWER OF ANYTHING. THIRD, I ADVANCED THE CAMSHAFT ONE NOTCH WHICH SEEMED TO BROADEN THE POWERBAND. FOURTH, REMOVED RESTRICTOR IN AIR CLEANER AND LEANED OUT THE CARB BY MOVING THE C-CLIP ON THE NEEDLE ONE UP. WITH ALL OF THE MODIFICATIONS THE THING WILL GO NEARLY 50 MPH!!!! WHICH IS PRETTY FAST ON A BICYCLE. ANOTHER THING I DISCOVERED IS THAT IF YOU OVERFILL THE CRANKCASE BY EVEN A MINUTE AMOUNT IT WILL BLOW THROUGH THE VENT TUBE AND RIGHT INTO YOUR AIR FILTER AND REALLY MAKE A MESS OF THINGS. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE IF YOU MODIFY THE ENGINE. (HIGHER RPM=HIGHER CRANKCASE PRESSURE) SO WHAT I DID TO REMEDY THIS WAS TO REMOVE THE HOSES AND LITTLE FILTER AND REPLACE IT WITH A HOSE LONG ENOUGH TO GO DOWN TO THE KICKSTAND AREA OF THE BIKE, SO ANYTHING THAT BLOWS OUT GOES ON THE GROUND AND NOT ON YOUR JEANS. ALL IN ALL I THINK THE NEW WHIZZERS ARE A PRETTY GOOD DEAL FOR THE MONEY AND I HOPE TO SEE MORE PEOPLE RIDING IN THE FUTURE...

PS: IF YOU HAVE ANY TECH QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME, GLAD TO BE OF ANY HELP

JAMES

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          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by JimW. on 12/1/2000 at 8:00:45 AM
Congratulations on your Whizzer hot-rodding results. Larry
Lauderback, who builds high-powered moto-bikes has a lot to
say about running bicycles at outside-the-usual-bike-envelope
speeds. Check out his bike, and see what he has to say about
50 mph speed, and its effect on frame geometry, spokes, tires,
braking, etc. It's very interesting:
http://bikerodnkustom.homestead.com/gallery30.html

          RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by Rif Addams on 12/1/2000 at 5:17:11 PM
That clears up a couple of questions I had! Thanks.
I was wondering about the durability iof standard bicycle tires at sustained high speeds. I had a blowout once at 35 M.P.H.
Rear tire shredded and popped (sounded like a .22 cal. shot) The back end began jumping all over the place like you wouldn't believe! All I could do was release the throttle, hold on and try not to go down.
Good learning experience.
And yeah, heavy spokes are the only way to go!
I am curious though as to why no rear brake, and How does he have his front brakes adjusted so as not to endo...
Perhaps B. R.&K. could do an in depth interview? Covering more of these technical/safety points for maniacs like us that need to push our cycles to that 40+ M.P.H. threshold.
Rif

          RE:RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by JimW. on 12/4/2000 at 11:14:58 AM
That's a great idea, Rif. An even better idea would be for him to be interviewed my a maniac exactly like you. I think that would be a very good interview combo. There's still room for it in the next issue, too. Say yes, and I'll set it up with Larry. Doing an interview is fun for both people involved, I've found.

          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by GARY on 12/17/2000 at 8:45:42 AM
just purchased new cruzzer sportsman...have question on
assembly of front wheel. info from seller indicated
there would be a bracket that would attach from bolt
on the left inside of fork...to a "wing" on the brake
assembly. cannot find any bracket. is this "wing"
supposed to bolt right onto the fork? instructions
for assembly are very sketchy. thanks...if anyone
can help.

          RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by Rif on 12/20/2000 at 4:08:22 AM
If I'm picturing this correctly the "wing" or "arm would come off the brake assembly itself.
This "arm" or "wing" would attach to the fork with a bracket similar to ones used for attatching the (rear) coaster brake arm to the frame.
If this is the piece you can get 'em off any old bike or aquire a new one from a local bike shop.
Dunno if that was a help or a hinderance,
Rif




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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   TAS Spitz - Clutch Type posted by: Mike on 11/13/2000 at 9:09:38 AM
Looking for someone with knowledge about the TAS Stiz, SEars Free Spirit or Aqua Bike Bug that has a clutch. This is my second one of these engines. First has no clutch - It works fantaisc. If you have any infomation/ experience about the clutch syatem please contact me.

Thnaks

Mike

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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   whizzer parts wanted posted by: Jerry Mahoney on 11/12/2000 at 5:24:26 PM
I am looking for the front fork tubes for a 20 inch whizzer sportsman. If you have them or know of someone who may have them please email me at sandi7800@aol.com Thanks Jerry

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AGE / VALUE:   Island Hopper motor kit posted by: Rif Addams on 11/12/2000 at 3:50:43 AM
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had feedback as to the Island Hopper bicycle motor kit.
Good, bad, whatever. Been checking out their product as well as the variety of others out there. Excluding Whizzer, Cruzzer, Cyclone types. That's a whole different game.
Thanks,
Rif

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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Island Hopper motor kit posted by DOUG D. on 1/10/2001 at 11:34:37 PM
RIF, THE ISLAND HOPPER 49cc 2hp is a super good engine kit, Heavy Duty brackets and TECUMSEH engine will get the job done! ONLY inprovement would be to knurl the roller wheel for better wet traction. Doug




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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   info. wanted please help posted by: Rickey Riley on 11/4/2000 at 7:52:46 PM
i just purchased a wizzer motor completly rebuilt, H model on a schwin bike. the bike is almost all original, except for tires, wheels, paint.and pedals. i dont know how to tell the year or type of schwin it is the only numbers i have been able to locate as to date are on the rear of the frame by the axel. i have not removed the motor to check on frame there. it has a springer front but the springs go up an down and do not stick out. and also i was told by the prior owner that the bike did have some type of center piece between the lower two top rods and the single top rod. the bike looks and runs great.my question is can anyone help me with the year of the bike so i can try to restore it to my best ability. and what is the aproximate value. you are welcome to e-mail me with any info.as i will try to get some pictures as soon as posible. thanks very much underpar4@hotmail.com

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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Cyclone 2000 26" posted by: Don Brown Age 71 on 10/29/2000 at 6:38:01 PM
Atten:Rif Adams, I just recently purchased a new Cyclone in the "box". I assembled it, put gas in the tank and checked the oil. It started up and ran fine,as of now I have 75 mi. on the bike. It truly is a" blast from the past" for me as I had a "Whizzer" on a Schwinn Bike in 1946.The Cyclone rides like a whizzer, sounds like a whizzer and looks like a whizzer.So I bought Whizzer decals and put them on the tank. So now it is a Whizzer!! I sure hope I won't need any parts any time soon! Right now, I'm enjoying the RIDE!!

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          RE:Moto Bikes in New BikeRod&Kustom posted by JimW. on 10/31/2000 at 6:24:18 AM
The Cyclone and other new Motos may be seen at:
http://bikerodnkustom2.homestead.com/moto3.html

          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Cyclone 2000 26 posted by Rif Addams on 11/1/2000 at 3:00:59 AM
Hey Don,
Glad to hear you are happy with the cyclone! What's your top speed on that? I'm putting my money aside for one, bit by bit. I enjoy all the Motor-bikes I've ridden, but those are the Cadillacs of Motor-bikes! I can hardly stand waiting for my chance to ride one!
I hope you'll keep us posted on performance, reliability, and such.
Have Fun!
Rif




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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   New Whizzer No Warranty posted by: Glenn P. on 10/19/2000 at 7:40:03 AM
Dummy me. Just purchased a '99 Whizzer motorbike from a dealer in Ill. from and EBay auction. No where in the text does it say "good luck with warranty" and stupid me didn't ask. I had it shipped to Portland, Oregon. Some parts were damaged, not from the freight company but from poor packing at the factory. (Over tightened retainer broke throttle cable nipple.) OK. Make a call to Whizzer Customer Service and find out that if the bike wasn't "assembled" by an authorized dealer the parts would not be replaced under warranty, absolutely! (Debbie in CS was adament about this and wouldn't return calls. Said I should work it out through the selling dealer. Dealer is now ignoring me too.) I'm tempted to dispute this purchase from my credit card until I'm satisfied. All I wanted was to ride this new toy. I also learned of similar stories from an associate in Vancouver, WA. and Idaho. Whizzer has just plain lousy service in general or ignores any warranty altogether. How can they maintain loyalty and respect from customers? Scary. Schwinn has allowed me to assemble bikes personally and been very obliging with warranty parts by just showing a receipt. Sure each Mfgr. is different with respect to parts replacement, but for an upstart company to ignore it's limited sales base is not good. Guess I won't be to eager to recommend or want to purchase future units. Just my two cents.

Cordially,

Glenn P.
Portland, Oregon

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          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   New Whizzer No Warranty posted by Rif Addams on 10/20/2000 at 3:20:54 AM
Hey,
Thanks for the tip. I had similar problems trying to purchase parts w/o buying a whole bike. The Harley dealer here in Tacoma was absolutely wonderful in trying to help. What can ya' do when the Mfr. won't even help the dealers?!
Pitiful. It's really too bad that this company isn't owned and operated by those who really care, appreciate, and just in general are real fans of the Whizzer.
My 2 cents worth,
Rif in Tacoma

          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   New Whizzer No Warranty posted by Rif Addams on 10/22/2000 at 10:56:02 PM
I wonder if the Cyclone Motorbike Co. is any better? Their product looks enticing, but I wonder how it holds up as far as quality.
If the product is as good as it looks, and if their customer service is better, Whizzer could have a real problem soon...
Anybody have any input/info on the Cyclones? Ridden on one? Own one?
Would like to know more about them.
Thanks,
Rif

          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   New Whizzer No Warranty posted by mike q. on 10/24/2000 at 6:39:03 AM
No service after the sale appears to be the norm for these motorized bicycle/scooter outlets based on personal experience and what I've heard from others. The fad will probably die fast because of it. Until then, buyer beware!

          RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   New Whizzer No Warranty posted by Rif Addams on 10/26/2000 at 3:13:39 AM
I had the same problem with the Zipper Bicycle motor I had.
If no one minds too much, I'll try to be brief with THIS great adventure! :-}
July 4th, 1999. A good friend of mine was throwing a party not only for the Independance celebration but also a going away party, as his wife had just landed a teaching position at a university in the midwest. Anyway, He gave me an old Huffy that had been painted camoflauge. It had a Zipper bicycle motor on it.
In in August I discoverd a Design flaw. The main mounting bracket cracked almost in half; and the drive roller was worn smooth, (This engine was old and who knows how many HARD miles were on it, just to be fair). Well after months of exhausting research I finally located the current manufacturer.
No body would give me the time of day or return my calls.
Nothing. Zero. Zip.
Now I've redesigned the bracket, I had a coworker write a program to machine a brand new one out of high grade aircraft aluminum. I just have to wait until a machine doesn't have a job set-up or running in it. I'll have a new bracket.
I priced a brand new motor for it, ( the old one blew so bad when it finally gave up the ghost that it blew chunks of the outer case! I still have the scar on my leg for that one...Not fun at 35 M.P.H.)
I'm still working out the drive roller design. I didn't really like the old one. I would like to utilize Dimension Edge's interchange system. They not only have ones for wet use, but different diameters so you can tune it for torque or speed or what have you. They also use urethane, so it doesn't wear your tire as rapidly.
Sorry to take up so much space with all this, but DARN I wish I had the money tomanufacture these things. DARN right you would see customer satisfaction and complete support parts, tech. whatever!
Anyway, keep the tire side down.
Rif

          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   New Whizzer No Warranty posted by John Herron on 11/1/2000 at 5:05:37 PM
Hi, The New Cyclones have a one year unlimited mileage warranty.
We have had a few Cyclones get damaged in shipping, but we
know it happens and send the replacements as soon as we can.
John
http://rbicycles.com




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AGE / VALUE:   New Whizzer No Warranty posted by: Glenn P. on 10/19/2000 at 7:40:03 AM
Dummy me. Just purchased a '99 Whizzer motorbike from a dealer in Ill. from and EBay auction. No where in the text does it say "good luck with warranty" and stupid me didn't ask. I had it shipped to Portland, Oregon. Some parts were damaged, not from the freight company but from poor packing at the factory. (Over tightened retainer broke throttle cable nipple.) OK. Make a call to Whizzer Customer Service and find out that if the bike wasn't "assembled" by an authorized dealer the parts would not be replaced under warranty, absolutely! (Debbie in CS was adament about this and wouldn't return calls. Said I should work it out through the selling dealer. Dealer is now ignoring me too.) I'm tempted to dispute this purchase from my credit card until I'm satisfied. All I wanted was to ride this new toy. I also learned of similar stories from an associate in Vancouver, WA. and Idaho. Whizzer has just plain lousy service in general or ignores any warranty altogether. How can they maintain loyalty and respect from customers? Scary. Schwinn has allowed me to assemble bikes personally and been very obliging with warranty parts by just showing a receipt. Sure each Mfgr. is different with respect to parts replacement, but for an upstart company to ignore it's limited sales base is not good. Guess I won't be to eager to recommend or want to purchase future units. Just my two cents.

Cordially,

Glenn P.
Portland, Oregon

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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   New Whizzer No Warranty posted by ken on 11/26/2000 at 3:04:10 PM
i just purchased a new whizzer and it has a one year unlimited milage warranty.from what you said i hope i don't need to use the warranty..ken




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AGE / VALUE:   COX BIKE ENGINE posted by: gary on 10/18/2000 at 2:54:09 PM
i have had a Cox Bike engine now for over 20 yrs, i have been carrying this thing around in my boxes of stuff. It was looking new in the box when i got the engine, minus the carb and reed plate. inside the engine, there is no trace of ever having been run. Does anyone have a Carb, and Reed plate??? Would anyone want to buy a good engine to replace one that dont run? this has good compression and gangbusters spark, but it has been moved around so much, it looks far from new now. it will run no questions asked if the parts are fitted. OR I will buy a non-running complete unit. I think they were called Chicken power

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AGE / VALUE:   That poor little motor... posted by: Rif on 10/7/2000 at 11:22:04 PM
WOW! I just spent all day today tooling around on my '66 Schwinn Typhoon, with the aqua-bug motor. I left at 11:30 this morning and finally called it a day at 9:30 this evening. Stopping back at the house to scarf a little food and coffee, let the engine cool some, re-fuel, and I was off again!
Man I gotta get my other motor-bike finished so I can actually take a decent road trip on one. Anyway, I put a LOT of miles on that thing today.
I'm turning some drive rollers at work to experiment with, to see what kind of different performance aspects I will achieve with different sizes. Today was research to get to know the bike and motor and all it's little quirks and such. What a great day, I found flight, freedom, and bliss all in one little toy. Boy the people around sure do seem to enjoy seeing these great little contraptions. It sparks conversation anywhere I stop. Where I don't stop people smile, wave, give the Fonz thumbs up, and what have you.
Anyway, For those who haven't ridden a motorized bike it's just about the most fun you can have with your pants on! Anyone who has will no doubt agree...
Keep on keepin on...
Rif "the creature from the black leather lagoon" Addams

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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   That poor little motor... posted by Carl on 10/16/2000 at 8:21:42 AM
Good going, Rif. Those things are a blast and are real head-turners. It would be cool to organize some kind of motorized bicycle brigade. Can you imagine the sound fo 5 or 10 of those bombing down the street? It would sound like a pack of bees!

          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   That poor little motor... posted by Rif on 10/17/2000 at 9:21:57 PM
Well,
to be honest I hope to have two more put together by next summer (HOPE being the operative word).
I am going to grab a couple of friends and bomb around sounding like a pack of mutant bees!
I know that at least one of my friends (likely most) will get hooked on it.
Really there's nothing like it. A motorcycle is too fast, you don't get to really enjoy the scenery like one does on a motor-bike, and yet you do get the same taste of a motorcycle, speeding along free as a bird, wind in your face...
Rif

          RE:AGE / VALUE:   That poor little motor... posted by Ken on 10/26/2000 at 3:15:35 AM
Anybody have any tips on these motors? I've been trying to find as much as I can since I've got a (alledged) NOS bug motor on the way. (I'm planning to attach it to a '63 Schwinn American I've got... http://web.beol.net/kitsune/bike.html )
The only info I've found so far on the web was someone moaning about how underpowered his was and several complaints about lack of spare driving wheel/cylinders.
One thing I've been trying to find out is if I need to remove my front fender to run it or if it mounts lower than the fender.




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MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Electric or battery powered posted by: Craig S. on 10/7/2000 at 1:41:45 PM
Does any one know if a battery powered electric motor (front wheel roller style) was produced either by a bike co. or as an add-on by another mfg.? iv'e found a ladies western flyer with the above set up. the battery pack is under the rack it just seems to clean to a garage project. thanks for your time and this wonderful forum. it's what keeps this world of wheels goin round..

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          RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Electric or battery powered posted by Jon on 11/8/2000 at 5:09:07 PM
The shop I worked for sold an electric bike that used a large battery in a marine type box that sat on the rear rack. It had a brake handle type arrangement that you used to apply the roller to the front wheel for a boost. It didn't have enough hp to use full time. I believe it was made by 'Electric Bike' and appeared in the back pages of Popular Mechanics before we offered it in the shop around 1980.

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