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MISC:   Another resource for you to use posted by: Vin – Menotomy Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 10/27/2010 at 5:40:06 AM
One of our philosophies here at OldRoads.com is to share the tools we use.
We share tools with our customers in the shop and we share our on-line tools with you, Dear Reader.
So here’s something we use when we determine how to price a used or vintage bicycle.
It reads classified ads and on-line auctions, every 10 minutes, from cities around the US.
This tool is slow to load, and it is not particularly user-friendly, but you may find it of value.

http://oldroads.com/active_bicycle_price_search.asp

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           RE:MISC:   Another resource for you to use posted by Corey K on 11/2/2010 at 7:01:39 AM
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AGE / VALUE:   Phillips Catalogues posted by: Luciano on 10/26/2010 at 11:41:02 AM
I am very interested in getting copies of Phillips catalogues (period 1892 - 1939). I would greatly appreciate your help. My e-mail: lmolinalp@gmail.com
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:���Phillips Catalogues posted by mark on 10/26/2010 at 6:40:17 PM
Dear Sir-don't know where you would find paper copies, except maybe ebay once in a while, but you might check the library section of the following--you can purchase pdf downloads--the 50s and 60s Hercules, Raleigh catalogs downloads i bought look pretty good and are in original format/color etc
http://www.cyclemuseum.org.uk/library/

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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   value/age posted by: brenda on 10/24/2010 at 7:43:26 AM
Ihave an old "made in England" Raleigh tricycle,chain driven,solid rubber tires,leather seat(no rips or tears)with a gold or brass colored metal basket mounted on front,rusty but in good condition.interested in value and age.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   value/age posted by Keith Body on 10/24/2010 at 10:24:42 AM
Brenda, If it's a child's trike, then do a search for Raleigh catalogues, possibly 1950's. If an adult trike then it's pre 1900 and very rare.
Keith
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   value/age posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 10/25/2010 at 8:50:40 PM
Brenda,

It's been said here many, many times.... Whilst a thousand words may download faster.... a picture... would be, especially in this case, immeasurably valuable.

Not only pursuant to Keith's information... but we'd all love to gander this machine. Trikes are wonderful things... in this case especially, should it be the ever elusive adult trike Keith alludes to... magical.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - 3 points determine a plane and there's absolutely nothing plain about it!
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   rethreading fork tube posted by: Jerry on 10/21/2010 at 5:41:15 PM
I'm trying to replace the fork on an old Armstrong bike. I have found a Raleigh fork but the fork tube is too long for the Armstrong. Can anyone tell me where I can find a die to rethread the tube and then cut it to fit? I'm assuming that this is a 26 tpi thread and the tube, by my measurement, is 1 in. diameter. Does anyone sell this die or would a machine shop have one? I am in the U.S. Thanks for any help.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   rethreading fork tube posted by Keith Body on 10/22/2010 at 1:29:48 AM
The standard British thread was 24 TPI, Raleigh were 26.
If you have standard Raleigh forks they were not very strong, if the Armstrong was pre TI takeover then probably better. The 24 TPI die would have been part of any decent UK bike shop 60 years ago, I had one, but not now.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   rethreading fork tube posted by Patrick on 10/22/2010 at 9:34:11 AM
I bought a 1"X24 die @ a local industrial tool supply
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   rethreading fork tube posted by Keith Body on 10/22/2010 at 3:08:27 PM
Found this tool and component list.
http://www.ceeway.com/
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AGE / VALUE:   Shhh, don't tell him Peugeot Mixte frame Champion Du Monde posted by: Chris on 10/19/2010 at 5:54:21 PM
Sticking my head thru the doors, seeing the bike not out on the floor it just came in like 3 seconds ago.

me: "I want this bike! I'll do anything! I'll sweep the floor! Take me! Take me!"

store manager: Um, It's ok. You just need money."

Money?
I'll be right back! So, I got stuck for $33.00 They ask for your first name and it was 33.00 something and

"yes, you may go get it now."

and like a grinning fool I wheeled it out of the store. Nobody told me about the bent fork and I am glad nobody ruined the moment for me. It's a mixte frame Peugeot Champion du monde white 27 x 1 1/4 Mafac brakes racer brakes one front skewer is Simplex the rear should be simplex but somebody switched it. the rims are worth having. What made my heart beat was the Blumels alloy mudguards 27 inch wheel version it has a flag!!
a vinal flag that had the Peugeot checkerboard and it said champion du monde it was attached to the front brake cable casing I call the flag "candy" something rare and sweet

I put air in the tires and rode off. Nice little bike.

Oh, the fork is bent! they didn't tell me!
I saw it but was too smitten with the bike to care. And then to take it and ride it home and downhill?? I was crazy. The fork could have failed and I'd wipe out and go under a car to my death.

I need a front fork for a Champion Du Monde Peugeot mixte bike. Hee Hee. I told the bike. Sorry to have to part you out. Well, I will look for a replacement fork.

French bottom bracket! Ya know,
I didn't see much replacement French Peugeot parts in any of the old shops I went thru. It's an attractive little bike. French cycle parts are not easy to come by are they? I removed the flag and will keep the bike in seclusion until I can find a fork or not.
Alloy handlebar stem with the lion emblam. I am very wary about alloy handlebars stems they fail they corrode and break and are not to be blindly trusted.

It' seems to be ok. The bike is a 10 speed. basic tubing nothing special. No rack, no bell original kickstand a nice little leather saddle bag it's a tool roll. rims are straight,

Normandy hubs. It's the front Skewer that is a prize. Normandy hubs good cheap hubs. No re- sell mojo.
Mafac racer brakes they work and work well if the brake shoe does not come out of the holder.

Do not squeeze the brakes and rock the bike back and forth this removes the brake shoes out of the holder sometimes and I did loose one. Plastic handlebar brake levers. Longing for all alloy brake levers. Mafac made more than one version of brakes the made the "driver" versuion and others all rare the racer brakes are the most common the cheapest but a lot of good desireable bike frames and bike builders used and installed the Mafac Racer brake and it works well so don't dismiss the Mafac Racer. But when you are in the shops.....Look for the Mafac "driver" and the others.

Ok, it's a thrill, but not like a Hercules Royal Prince, a Raleigh D.L.1. or anything ancient, British, and with an enclosed chainguard. Longing for Brooks Leather seats.

You know, I know nothing about Where in France the Ideale saddle is made. Or was made. No publicity on Ideale
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shhh, don't tell him Peugeot Mixte frame Champion Du Monde posted by Chris on 10/19/2010 at 6:41:05 PM
! INCREDIBLE! I LOVE THIS STUFF!!

TAKE A LOOK AT E- BAY ITEM # 29048776062

THIS IS THE FLAG I HAVE!
AND THIS GUY'S "BUYIT NOW"IS $199.00 FIRM.

MAKE THIS ALL THE MORE FUN! DOESN'T IT.

I HAVE THE EYE FOR THIS STUFF. I AM RIGHT NEXT TO THIS THRIFT STORE OTHER WISE I'D MISS IT.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shhh, don't tell him Peugeot Mixte frame Champion Du Monde posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 10/20/2010 at 11:57:12 AM
Sounds like a winner. I gotta say... I would be in deep trouble being propinquitous to a thrift store.... I forget how many bikes I rolled through the doors of the "Sally" in Binghamton, NY.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Oooooo! There's ANOTHER one!!!!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shhh, don't tell him Peugeot Mixte frame Champion Du Monde posted by Keith Body on 10/20/2010 at 12:39:42 PM
Chris, the frame and forks are made of ductile material. If you want to improve the front forks the "quick and dirty" method is to get an assistant to hold the bike up, and you lie on the floor under the front wheel, feet on the chainwheel, and grab the front wheel. All you have to do is pull fairly gently, the assistant has to tell you when you have gone far enough. This will improve it, but the forks may be a little off to one side.
There is only one place on a standard bike frame where a failure of one tube will mean your nose scrapes along the ground. The fork column above the fork crown. The french used to take a piece of wood, like a broom handle, and cut it down to fit inside the bottom of the fork column (steerer) anchored by drilling through the brake hole. If the critical failure occurred you get a wobble but not disaster.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shhh, don't tell him Peugeot Mixte frame Champion Du Monde posted by Chris on 10/21/2010 at 1:06:24 PM
Thanks to Keith and Larry for the interesting comments. Back up systems are always good.
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:  Peugeot "Champion Du Monde" derailers posted by Chris on 10/21/2010 at 1:19:12 PM
Rear derailer is Schwinn GT 420 "Le Tour" made By Shimano front derailer is a Schwinn Le- Tour GT 450 also by Shimano wheel rims are Rigida Chrolux chromage superior 27 x 1 1/4 HP rims The French made wheel release hub skewer ( I forget the name right now) has a round metal end piece that fits into the front fork end fits inside snugly not mashes against the outside but fits inside. Secures the hub in the fork ends- Perhaps this is part of the reason these skewers are collectable and sought after.
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           RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:  Peugeot posted by Chris on 10/21/2010 at 1:24:08 PM
The quick release skewer is old school Simplex unfortunitly the black plastic "wing nut" style screws fall apart but this round metal end piece fits in the fork ends. I find the French stuff interesting.
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           RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:  Peugeot posted by Chris on 10/21/2010 at 1:44:39 PM
Wow! Take a look at this bike! Mine is exact, only mine is white and not green. e- bay item # 390128450248
Same componets, same handlebars and handlebar grips, same handlebar stem made by Atax who made alloy parts for Peugeot. I had an interesting rare picture filled book I found in a rare book store. The fellow I sent it to never did anything with/ never wrote about it. He said: Gee, thanks, kept the book and never did an article on ATAX/ Peugeot. Never lend literature. It showed behind the scenes pictures of ATAX/ peugeot.

I didn't think this bike was worth this much.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shhh, don't tell him Peugeot Mixte frame Champion Du Monde posted by Jean-Marc on 10/24/2010 at 5:51:18 AM
Hi Chris,

I can give some explanations on Ideale saddles, which was the french equivalent to "brooks"!

Ideale Saddles have been created by Jean-François Tron in Paris in 1890, then he has implanted its workshop in Pont-Saint-Pierre In Normandie in 1900. the company have been managed by his daughter and his son-in-law Marcel Berthet. Marcel Berthet was the first cyclist to ride 50km in one hour (Monthléry le 13th of November 1933). He was also world recordman in 1907 and 1913 of distance in one hour.

Factory Tron et Berthet produced high quality saddles but is now closed because the price was too high!

On the saddle, you might see a T and a B engraved on the leather for Tron & Berthet.

The following link shows some models:
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/France/Ideale_main.htm

Kind regards
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shhh, don't tell him Peugeot Mixte frame Champion Du Monde posted by Keith Body on 10/24/2010 at 10:18:25 AM
J-M, My wifes 1972 Colnago has an Ideale 88 (I think), which was on a previous bike. Although I had a direct account with Brooks, I did sell some Ideale from Ron Kitching. I actually preferred them to the Brooks of the time (1950/60's). I also liked the rivets being lower down the back. In the 50's there were a lot of alternative materials coming on the market, and some saddles were 8 or 9 ounces instead of 24.
By 1960 the direct account gave me a discount of 50%, while quantity rates at RK a mere 40% on a £300 order. A top road bike would cost £75, a top Raleigh roadster about £25.
M Berthet also lent his name to some very popular Lyotard solid centre pedals.
Keith.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:  Ideale Saddles posted by Chris on 10/25/2010 at 10:05:10 AM
Thanks for the information!

I can say that finding Ideale saddles has been very good to me. Sitting in the cold bike shop basement or on the wood floor in Detroit and finding stash after stash of old alloy rail I dealle saddles with just a tinge of green on the copper rivits that deep green and seeing what these sell for today and sitting on that cold floor and smelling the leather and closing ones eyes and then finding a box a big box for all of them that i found and greedy me bought them all all and cheaply too!

Oh! I tell you its magical! wonderful!
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:  Ideale Saddles posted by Chris on 10/25/2010 at 4:33:12 PM
Thanks everybody and you know what? this is the first time I have gotten an real answer with some info,that one can get their teeth into, something with some meat on the bone to gnaw on, about the scoop on Ideale Saddles. Thank You !! Would love to see pictures of the factory building what it looks like today what it looked like then, hopefully, one day somebody will unearth some for us! I'm caught up in them but still, my passion is first for Brooks by a nose. I don't go smelling the bicycle parts usually but Ideale saddles n.o.s. ones, yes!

Anytime the bike has a leather saddle it is a bonus a thing to smile over, the extra beat of the heart. It has a leather saddle! it's a special thing, a marvelous thing.

Old Peugeot had what was called a demi balloon tire on their bikes and those with deraileur gears is a special and wonderful thing to experience.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shhh, don't tell him Peugeot Mixte frame Champion Du Monde posted by Jean-Marc on 10/28/2010 at 5:31:36 AM
Hello,

Another link in english where you should found informations on Ideale Saddle:
http://www.ebykr.com/2006/08/ideale-saddles/
Regards
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ideale saddles posted by Chris on 10/28/2010 at 3:44:53 PM
I am very grateful for the link to more information.
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AGE / VALUE:   Front Axils posted by: Dale on 10/19/2010 at 9:12:49 AM
Does anyone know of a source for front axil cones for 60s-70s era Raleighs? Or another one that has the same bearing surface profile, even if the seals don't match?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Front Axils posted by ken on 10/19/2010 at 10:22:44 AM
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AGE / VALUE:   Email adreess correction posted by: Kim Shepherd on 10/17/2010 at 7:00:57 PM
Hello:

This is Kim, who inquired about rubber tires.
My correct email address is,kim-shep@att.net.
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AGE / VALUE:   Rubber Tires for wheelchair posted by: Kim Shepherd on 10/17/2010 at 6:39:04 PM
Hello:

Can anyone tell me where I can get a set of 22 and 1 3/8 in. 80% rubber/latex tires similar to antique indian rubber U.S. chain tread or antique English slicker tires for my wheelchair?

I have severe allergies to polyurethane/pvc tires.
Your help is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

Kim

kim-shep@att.ne
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rubber Tires for wheelchair posted by Chris on 10/21/2010 at 1:08:15 PM
Struck out on this one, guys. I hope somebody has or can, assist with this request.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by: Jean-Marc on 10/16/2010 at 3:02:18 AM
Hello all,

I have found an old Rudge-Whitworth bicycle I would like to restore. I like its frame very modern. But it has not brake. I suppose that it was provided with rod rim brakes with inverter levers on the handlebar. The frame is very rusty and I cannot find any serial number! If somebody can help to know what model it is and how old it is!

I can post others pics. Regards


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Chris on 10/16/2010 at 10:49:29 AM
Very good find. I am mosy jealous of you. Those handlebars are rare and unique. WOW!
Keith what do you think?
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Keith Body on 10/16/2010 at 11:40:08 AM
Rudge fitted some fine thread headsets in the mid thirtys 31/32 inch, instead of the more ususal headclip with the same thread. I think they were 32 tpi instead of 24. Then became Raleigh with 1 inch 26 tpi
Any sign of brakes? could have had levers that clipped on the handlbars, but they were a bit earlier.
Thats the best I can do unless we get some more close-ups.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Jean-Marc on 10/17/2010 at 1:46:45 AM
Hello Chris and Keith

Thanks for the quick reply! I am going to describe deeper the Rudge. When I have bought it it was provided only with a RADIAL front cable rim brake:
[URL=http://img96.imageshack.us/i/rudgefrein.jpg/][IMG]http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5787/rudgefrein.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
I think it was not the original brake. You can see a screw on the frame under the handlebar which should be used to attach a rod brake system for the back brack. Also the handlebar is strange. It has some holes at the base of the attachment, which seems to be used to guide cables into the handlebar:
[URL=http://img694.imageshack.us/i/guidondemonte.jpg/][IMG]http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8607/guidondemonte.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
Detail of the holes:
URL=http://img140.imageshack.us/i/rudgeguidon3.jpg/][IMG]http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2423/rudgeguidon3.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
I suppose the handlebar was provided with inverted levers at the tip of the handlebar:
[URL=http://img36.imageshack.us/i/rudgeguidon2.jpg/][IMG]http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/561/rudgeguidon2.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
I have found some old Rudge with such levers as this 1912 one:
[URL=http://img524.imageshack.us/i/1912rudgewhitworth.jpg/][IMG]http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6493/1912rudgewhitworth.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
I would like to restore it as it was, even if it will be difficult to find the missing parts!








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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Jean-Marc on 10/17/2010 at 2:01:01 AM
Sorry, I have difficulties to insert pics. I try again!


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Jean-Marc on 10/17/2010 at 2:07:38 AM
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Chris on 10/17/2010 at 10:05:59 AM
Wow. Simply awesome!!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Chas on 10/17/2010 at 10:26:52 AM
The handlebars are very similar to an 189? Rudge I was shown over today, the only thing that kept the inverted brake levers in place (in the handlebar ends) was the tension on the cable itself!
Those small holes pictured underneath the bars would be for the brake cables to exit if same set up.
What a smashing machine ride!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Keith Body on 10/17/2010 at 10:54:45 AM
The Rudge is likely pre WW1, with the inverted brake levers connected by cable to a rod brake system. They did use an expander bolt. From the hand curved look of the handlebars I would guess early 1900's.
Internal lugs were widely used around 1900 in US.
Don't know how to start a restore. More likely to get a better example, I think a "rideable" one sold at a UK auction 2 years ago for £35, but I'm not a bike collector. I would be concerned about internal rust.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Chris on 10/18/2010 at 4:35:43 PM
Keith has a point about internal rust. It's fine to display the bike, look at it, preserve it for history but this particular bike may not withstand riding. We don't want you to get hurt.

Overall, with the silverpolished rust resistant surfaces and preparations these companies did to the bikes before they were painted and Raleigh came up with their Spra Bonderized surfaces and the Pyrene metal finishing Company had their own Spa Bonderized or Bonderite finishes and so, the majority of old, ancient bicycles are fine for riding and using daily. There are exceptions, this one may fall in that catogory.
This particular bike looks a bit under par for rust resistance. It has rust. I am excited about this bike but don't recomend a restoration job that cost money. I am not sure I would ride this one either. I would yes, because I love these more than I can tell you but we want you safe and I generally urge people to have more sense than I like to use myself. So I have to agree with Keith.

Overall, we don't have to worry about rust. The original finishes and preventative measures these companies used was too good. Alloy parts can be a worry. Alloy handlebar quils, stems, a few other things to worry about.
The alloy turns to powder and some of the stems fail the later day G.B. alloy stems the cheap stuff from the 1960's some of it has to be not used. Overall, the alloy stuff is usable and collectable and valuable. I will prepare a post on Rudge as I have one of my books here with me at home. So check back tomorrow. It's difficult I am not there with your bike so saying this just by pictures well we are running the risk of error but we are error-ing on the safe side and cautioning you about a rust issue. Your health and safety is most important.
Overall, these bikes get new tires and tubes and a few other things and they are ridden, daily. These old bikes are better than the new bicycles and that is a fact. Go back where this was found, are there any more. You did very well and I am jealous I want to find these!! Stay checking here I'll cough up some info on Rudge of this era.
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           RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Chris on 10/18/2010 at 4:37:22 PM
The Southern Vetrans Cycle Club has a marque enthusiast for Rudge bikes pick their brain as well. I will contribute a post about early rudge company info from one of my books tomorrow.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Jean-Marc on 10/22/2010 at 2:32:33 PM
Thanks a lot for your encouragement! There are quite a lot of old bikes in french countryside, but I am very lucky to have found this one. I will try to restore it to be able ride it safely but keeping its vintage appearance. I am not worried by the rust because under, the steel is good. I am sure I would use it daily!
I think I will only rub the rust and then put a protection against rust as "RUSTOL", I don't know if this product exists in US, it give a brown dark color to the rust. I fear if I paint it in bright black I will lose its old aspect. Also all mechanical parts, bearing..., work well. I will find easily a saddle. The main point to ride it downtown safely is to find brakes. I fear I will never find the original brake because so specific. I have seen on 1914 Rudge catalog a bike very similar (but not exactly the same), it was provided in option with coaster hub brake instead of Back rim brake. So it could be a solution.
Chris I am very interesting if you can found in one of your books the same bike!


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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Old Rudge-Whitworth posted by Chris on 10/25/2010 at 4:35:45 PM
stay with us give me a few days I have my book, just gotta do a book report about Rudge of this era
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   gents raleigh tourist - looking to trade for ladies posted by: jessey on 10/15/2010 at 3:04:51 PM
I have an older (1973) Raleigh Tourist that belonged to my Grandmother. My husband has my Grandfather's. My Grandmother, for some reason, was riding a Gent's bike, and it is just too big for me, so I'm looking to trade it for a ladies version. It doesn't HAVE to be a Tourist, but it has to be a Raleigh, with roller-lever brakes, and preferably a generator hub. Any one out there have any leads or interest? I don't have any pics right now, but can post some if there's any interest. Thanks!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   gents raleigh tourist - looking to trade for ladies posted by KiraB on 10/19/2010 at 10:18:46 AM
Hi,
I have two ladies' Tourists. What size is your gents'?
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   gents raleigh tourist - looking to trade for ladies posted by KiraB on 10/19/2010 at 10:19:06 AM
Hi,
I have two ladies' Tourists. What size is your gents'?
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bent Crank posted by: Roger Blake on 10/14/2010 at 12:34:12 PM
I recently purchased a Raleigh Royal Scot that I think has a bent crank on the left side. I plan to pull off the cranks to lube the crank bearings. Can this fixed by putting the crank in a vise and bending it using a pipe as lever? It was made in 1970, that is the date stamped on the hub.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Bent Crank posted by David on 10/14/2010 at 1:58:42 PM
This has, I presume, the usual steel cottered crank. I'd guess you can straighten a moderate bend in it quite safely. Good luck.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bent Crank posted by Keith Body on 10/15/2010 at 1:53:00 AM
In the 1950's I could sometimes bent Raleigh cranks by just pedalling. I used to have crank straightening irons, strong iron bars about 4 feet long with several suitable shapes on the ends. Always straightened the cranks on the bike. Most Raleigh cranks then were made by Nicklin, and definitely malleable.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bent Crank posted by Roger Blake on 10/15/2010 at 4:11:03 PM
It would be easier to do on the bike but I was worried about damaging the frame.
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AGE / VALUE:   George Wyman ride/ E.R. Thomas motorbikes posted by: Chris on 10/9/2010 at 1:31:36 PM
I was re- reading the George Wyman ride article a few days ago and today I was leafing thru, entirely by pure chance Popular Science Monthly from june of 1928 and my eye caught something of interest. I have no idea if this is the same fellow or not. Probably not possible to find out. I like to try and see what I can turn up- I was wondering if there was any way to trace what happened to George Wyman after his ride across the country on the railroad ties with his motorbike. The story mentioned a Mr. E.R. Thomas of the E.R. Thomas motorbicycle factory early 1903 period early cars and motor bicycles / motorcycles. He help George Wyman had his shop and men make up a set of forks as the 1903 motorbike Wyman was using had forks that were shot totally and E.R. would not acceptm payment for the forks and the gasoline. He lent Wyman an auto Bi another brand of early motor bicycle on which Wyman toured the city while the forks were being made up and mending done on the bike Wyman was using. So, in the Wyman story a brief mention is made of E.R. Thomas.

Besides in the Wyman story is any trace of E.R. Thomas and his bikes/ factory left?
I was wondering if it was possible to try to look up the E.R.Thomas company. I found a photo and an article:

This boat rolls on Water
This curious boat is propelled by a small outboard motor. "Uncle Ed" R.Thomas, the inventor, concieved the idea of galvanized iron drums by watching a tin can as it tossed about near hih home at Miami Beach, Florida. In the picture below we see the craft being piloted by the inventor's son.

In the picture E.R. Thomas is in his senior years and perhaps this fellow is the same, E.R. Thomas mentioned in the Wyman story. Perhaps he moved, sold the business, retired to Florida and still was messing about with motors, cycles, and decided to make a unique type of boat that rolls on the water. How many E.R. Thomas's could there have been who had an interest in motor stuff. A lot of things are discovered/ uncovered by accident.

Perhaps it's just another E.R. Thomas

Anyways the trip thru old time popular science is a lot of fun. I always wonder "what happened to?" the stuff shown in the pictures plane engines, helping the deaf hear radio thru their teeth. all strange and wonderful and sadly, lost stuff.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   George Wyman ride/ E.R. Thomas motorbikes posted by sam on 10/9/2010 at 7:12:57 PM
George Wyman lived out his years as an auto machanic in Northern Calaiforia
No one knows what happened to his motorbike after he got to NY City in 1903
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AGE / VALUE:   look this up posted by: Chris on 10/6/2010 at 6:32:55 PM
e- bay item # 250707000493 ( U.S.) without the Mojo or the power of a name to go with it. Not real or magical enough for me.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   look this up posted by Chris on 10/6/2010 at 6:37:56 PM
No decals or box lining I like the chainguard don't like the fork and for the money, we can go hunting and bag the real thing.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   look this up posted by Chris on 10/7/2010 at 9:02:04 AM
and 900.00 u.s. too! No..
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   look this up posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 10/9/2010 at 8:13:54 AM
That's a lot of money for a single speed machine. Hand built or not and I agree Chris.... get the real deal... or if you want one like that, find a Flying Pigeon for far less. Of course, one can't glean from a single picture the quality, fit and finish.... but still... for $900 it's a bit high.

I sure hope they didn't spend the money on it they claim to have.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - I need to dust off the DL-1
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   look this up posted by Corey K on 11/2/2010 at 7:25:33 AM
The Abici city bikes are a modern Italian made machine. They get rather good reviews, and are a much more aggressive-geometry bike than the older Raleighs. I've heard them compared to the French city bikes of the 60s in terms of handling. Velouria of the Lovely Bicycle! web blog did an in-depth review of that same model a few months back. It's worth a read.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   sad day posted by: Pete on 10/3/2010 at 4:26:47 PM
A sad day indeed,after grief and untold unpleasantness from very bitter x wife my prized and loved bicycles are being touted on the fleabay.Forced to sell all my lamps now my bikes.Been along time since I,ve been here due to lack of internet connection and all the time that moving out and sorting a home for myself and son takes.Still gonna hang on to one of the less expensive bikes so as to continue my enjoyment of ownership and raise a few more pounds for the air ambulance.Watch the sad tale of a sad man who really does not want to have to part with his beloved bicycles amassed over the years on fleabay under the user name of ciderheadz1 Enjoy em while you got em cus as I found out it may not last forever.Thanks for all your help advice,knowledge etc over the years to all of you esp Matthew,Chris,Dave etc etc you know who you are and don't need naming.Cheers all .Pete.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   sad day posted by Chris on 10/4/2010 at 6:48:15 PM
I got a look at what is up for sale and my heart goes out to you. Put it in low gear for awhile, take it slow, things settle after a bit, and soon you'll get back up to second and then, third gear again. I'm sorry to hear you are touring a lousy stretch of path now. I was thinking about the movie "Cash" about Johnny Cash with Joquim Phoenix and Reese Witherspoon. Things go nasty with Vivian Cash and one day he runs into, literally, June Carter. He gets his guitar caught in a bow of her red dress as she is about to go onstage. "I'll be right there," "When June bug?" "I'm caught in Johnny Cash's guitar string, he's a strapping boy, this Johnny Cash and his Guitar is strapping too!"
She rips it so she can get up on stage- and leaves the red bow with Johnny Cash. It was not easy, there were challenges but in the end June marries him and they had a son and spent the next 35 years touring the world together. Heres hoping your "June Carter Cash" is out there someplace and I hope you run into each other. Work into a schedule a time to ride the bikes, see the sights and get exercise and benefits of cycling it's good for body and soul. Wishing you the best in your future. Humberchristopher29@hotmail.com
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   sad day posted by Chris on 10/4/2010 at 6:49:28 PM
ride a bike, anything, stay in cycling.
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           RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   sad day posted by Chris on 10/6/2010 at 9:25:07 AM
I was reading last night the George Wyman Ride across country and at one point he was having trouble with the motor bicycle and he was out in the middle of nowhere and he said he "wanted to just shoot the machine full of holes and desert it." Tempting!.........Ohh! But No. No. Things get better, these low moments pass and you never know what the tide will bring in what may happen next. I asked "What happened to turn things around?" "He met my mother, they have been married 50 something years and it's still passionate and wonderful between them, all these years later. I think of "Hearts in Atlantis" when the "low men" are driving by looking for Ted and Ted say's to Bobby "Don't look at it! think of a Happy memory think of Carol, Don't ever let her go, Bobby." So in your mind, go to a birthday party or any other happy memory you can remember and there are morte happy hasppy memories yet, to unfold, yet to experience. More bikes, and all the better things in between.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Has anyone heard of?? posted by: Allison on 10/1/2010 at 3:43:20 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a bike called a Portland? It's a circa 1950's black women's 3-speed, built in Birmingham, England. I'm assuming it was made by some incarnation of the BSA or Philips bikeworks, but I haven't seen any mention of such a company or such a bike on the web. The cycle guys a took it to here in Portland Oregon were a bit thrown off by the fork and the headset and think they aren't original (and thus don't fit), but the bike's been in my mother's basement for 40 years and I doubt that it has been monkeyed with. I thought if I knew what it was it might help me determine whether those parts in fact are not original.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Has anyone heard of?? posted by Chris on 10/1/2010 at 4:29:19 PM
We need to see a picture of the bike. We recognize the parts from the various makes and a photo will really help. As to the name of the bike- department stores or about anybody who was willing to order a certain number of bikes could get badges and decals made to order and put on their bikes. It could have been monkeyed with years ago.
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