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AGE / VALUE:   made new paw springs for the N posted by: sam on 9/14/2010 at 2:43:52 PM
New springs to be installed
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l283/frameteam2003/pawsprings.jpg
Installed springs
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l283/frameteam2003/pawspringsinstalled.jpg

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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Freshly Restored 1971 Sunbeam posted by: Clint on 9/12/2010 at 5:07:51 PM
First Ride for the freshly restored 1971 Sunbeam. Seat, wheels ,basket, Dyno-luxe and lights are off of a 1956 Raleigh sports.


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Freshly Restored 1971 Sunbeam posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/14/2010 at 12:53:01 PM
VERY nice looking machine. Well done. Rides nice, I presume?

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - It aint bread!
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AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh frame posted by: Stephen Hogben on 9/12/2010 at 11:18:05 AM
One of the men at work brought in an old gents Raleigh frame with forks,handlebars (good chrome still)and rod brake levers,he had pulled it out of a skip and knowing my interest in old bikes had kindly brought it in for me!I think it is probably 1960,s but cannot seem to find a year for the frame number which is 1841 CG. Anybody help? P.S. He has been ordered back to the skip to see if any more of it is in it!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh frame posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/14/2010 at 12:54:48 PM
Only here at Oldroads.... is "Dumpster Diving" a fine art. ESPECIALLY... when well practiced and it yields such finds as this.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Skip, Dumpster, Bin... it's all good.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh frame posted by Ken on 9/15/2010 at 1:48:05 AM
Stephen

This should be a 1962

1955 - 1966
A new numbering system was introduced in 1955, though this ran concurrently with the old one for two years. The new system involved a second running letter, added to the first, which began at the start of the alphabet.

1961: 13126 AF
1965/6: 40814 FD

Got this information from the Raleigh serial number charts found here:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/dating.html

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh frame posted by Stephen Hogben on 9/16/2010 at 10:46:57 AM
Thanks for the replies!Unfortunately there was no more parts in the skip.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh frame posted by CHRIS on 9/16/2010 at 6:45:41 PM
He's a good pal to have gone to the skip not once but twice!

Saving the old bikes! AWESOME!
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by: Jason on 9/7/2010 at 12:02:33 PM
How early was the DL-1/Tourist imported into the US? Was it a rarity in the 20's/30's?
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Jason on 9/7/2010 at 5:19:50 PM
I scored what has to be my favorite bike so far- check out the shifter, frame kickstand, etc


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Jason on 9/7/2010 at 5:20:02 PM
I scored what has to be my favorite bike so far- check out the shifter, frame kickstand, etc


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Jason on 9/7/2010 at 5:21:36 PM
Trying pic again


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Jason on 9/8/2010 at 3:45:58 AM
I'd love some help determining age of this beauty. Serial number is ag 12485 which doesn't seem to fit any of the patterns I see on the Sheldon brown site. Sturmey archer has no date stamped but has patent application pending. I know it's at least a 1938 or older according to the shifter but can I get any more specific?

Also it has an extremely old Terry saddle - were these an option in addition to the b73?
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Chris on 9/8/2010 at 5:31:32 PM
Terry's had horsehair stuffing. I love all the terry's products. Yes, they were an option or customer prefrence and Raleigh catered to customer prefrences. The cranks are interesting and marvelous these have to be 8 inch cranks these varied acording to order to customer order back in the day it was different you ordered the bike as you wanted it like a custom hamburger. I'll go into the history in a few days from now stay tuned. MAGNIFICENT MACHINE! YOW! YOW!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Pete F on 9/9/2010 at 4:15:48 AM
Jason - Can you identify the Sturmey Archer model? is it a K series or AW? They can be told apart by the indicator rod, visible in the left hand end of the axle for a K type, whereas the AW axle is solid. K changed to AW around 1937.
White tail on the rear mudguard, if original, makes it post 1934.
Nice looking rims, stainless or very good chrome? What size tyres?
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Steve on 9/9/2010 at 6:39:52 AM
Nice bike and impressive bike carrying capacity on the vehicle....how many can it carry with that set-up.
Steve
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Chris on 9/9/2010 at 6:33:09 PM
I made some notes to share here fron one of my books.
The N.Y. Depot and assemble shop was closed in 1893 The failure in the U.S. market along with problems in the Canadian market Braverman Hardware of Hamilton, Canada was a distributor that had problems with American Eclipse bikes being competitors it was one of the 6 reasons Bowden displayed a side of his character that was contemptous of individual failure. Frank Bowden used the issue and others to get rid of WoodHead and Paul Angois who were made to answer to Bowden about the factory and everything else in and also out of, their control.

They were dismissed from the meeting while the directors discussed their position and on their return to the factory they resigned on the spot. The company was devalued, and the assets knocked down, were bought again by Bowden and some others and Woodhead and Angois were paid a sum and they were done completely with Raleigh. Bowden was really some clever, master manipulator- it is worth studying!

1892 Tubular fork crown invented sales office opened in 1892 assembly shop parts from Nottingham assembled G.P. Mills replaced Paul Angois and invented the cross frame bike. The Terry's Spring saddle appeared in 1927

In 1893 the John Griffiths Cycle corporation was the main U.S. agent
The Raleigh company got out of the U.S. market until 1933 When they re-entered U.S.A. in Boston with devotee Hamilton OsGood being the sole U.S. Distributor for Raleigh's. Osgood got Abercrombie and Fitch to sell Raleigh's in their stores.
Of course bikes came here when people moved or traveled on business. However due to tarrifs and strong U.S. competition and Canadian too Raleigh had a difficult time.

Exactly when the Raleigh D.L.1. as we know it came into being and who designed it I am not sure.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Jason on 9/10/2010 at 6:41:43 AM
Thanks all! I'm very excited about this find. I don't think it was ever used. No wear on original tires or pedals

I made a full thread he's with tons of pictures


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/4976883334_2391fd4681_b_d.jpg
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Jason on 9/10/2010 at 6:44:38 AM
Sorry here's link to full thread on my find!

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?678531-Pre-war-DL1-or-Tourist-need-help-identifying-year
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Jason on 9/10/2010 at 6:51:19 AM
Pete - the hub is a 'patent applied for' AW. Neat stuff..
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by CHRIS on 9/10/2010 at 10:26:45 AM
PATENT APPLIED FOR IS 1940'S WAR ERA
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           RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Jason on 9/10/2010 at 10:44:23 AM
Thanks! Yeah I actually determined it to be a '36 on the other forum...everything adds up to make it that year
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Keith Body on 9/10/2010 at 11:29:29 AM
Jason, The 1936 catalogue clearly shows an earlier handlebar than yours. I always thought the AW was 1938 on, possibly end of 37. K type were well into 1937.
The design of these bikes is about 1925. Post WW2 in the UK there were very few 28 inch wheels sold, the home market had moved on.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Jason on 9/11/2010 at 5:58:28 PM
Interesting - hub says aw patent applied for ('36), but there is an indicator rod on left side of axle. Does that tell you anything?
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Keith Body on 9/12/2010 at 12:12:59 PM
Jason, I had a look at this,
http://www.sturmey-archerheritage.com/history.php
and the only AW references in the time line for 1936 have the date hand written. July 1936 price list has K type only. The AW does not have an indicator on the left, so is it a K type? Does the shell have the "36" date on it and "AW patent applied for", which could mean exactly that, not what's inside the shell??
I will carry on searching.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Jason on 9/12/2010 at 12:44:05 PM
Hey thanks for checking this out. It says patent applied for and AW, with a 'Q' as well. Bike is definitely all original with no changed parts so I wonder what this all means
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           RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Chris on 9/14/2010 at 8:20:06 AM
interesting thread, neat
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by sam on 9/14/2010 at 2:38:33 PM
The quad. shifter was sold in the U.S. on import Hercules till about 1953
and also S.A. hubs stamped the flang with a spoke count number(36 or 40)not to be mistaken for the date code which was stamped in the center part of the hub.
S.a. hubs were offered on American bikes in the teens and made in the U.S for a short time.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Rick on 9/14/2010 at 6:51:18 PM
Hi Jason,
Try this site for frame dates. http://www.jaysmarine.com/TH_raleigh_serials.html
I have a Dawn Tourist with an FW dated 47 2 and a dynohub dated 46 3. The frame serial is 47131AK. I also have a Tourist 2L (ladies)with a frame serial AR53143, and an AW hub dated 49 3 and a dynohub dated 49 3. Your AG frame should be earlier than my AK frame.
I suspect that the transition to war production was not immediate and that frames were stored, or even continued to be built in small numbers. Probably the transition back to civilian production was also gradual.
There is probably a range of frame numbers that can not be assigned to a particular year, and the best we can do is say they were produced in the war years. I think it's likely that some components were stored through the war years as well.
It's a beauty, so none of this really matters anyway.
Rick
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   History of DL-1/Roadster in US posted by Chris on 9/15/2010 at 5:49:46 PM
Sturmey- Archer offered skip tooth sprockets that threaded onto their threaded drivers so skip tooth chains and front chainrings that were skip tooth or inch pitch chains and all this early old school American bikes could go hand in hand with Sturmey- Archer's hubs.

I found a skip tooth rear sprocket and was able to use a Sturmey- Archer hub in one of my Schwinn projects it was cool to mix skip tooth and Sturmey Archer.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Tire info needed for '59 Hercules posted by: Pearl on 9/6/2010 at 2:51:08 PM
Hi -

I have a 1959 British-built Hercules cruiser-type, ladies' with the original tires. The problem is I definitely need to replace these (I'll keep them in storage, of course!). The tires are 26" X 1 3/8" but everything I've read suggests that standard tires of that size won't fit. If anyone can give me pointers, I'd really appreciate it!

Thank you,
Pearl
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Tire info needed for '59 Hercules posted by David on 9/7/2010 at 5:52:40 AM
It almost certainly uses the standard 26 x 1 3/8 tires that are easily available (bike shops, this site, internet, Walmart, etc). Be sure that the sidewall has 590 molded on it. (The only possible confusion would be with slightly larger Schwinn tires of the same nominal size; they would say 597)
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WANTED:   Sturmey Archer K7 three speed posted by: Phil on 9/6/2010 at 9:37:37 AM
Hi all, I noticed in a previous discussion that mention was made re. SA K Series hubs. I have a K7 (1937) which is in o/a good shape except for the gear ring pawls which are worn and slightly chipped. Does anyone have experience in this area (or replacement pawls)? Note the pawls differ slightly dimensionally from AW pawls. Thanks
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           RE:WANTED:   Sturmey Archer K7 three speed posted by David on 9/7/2010 at 5:55:51 AM
If you can't find replacements (see Tony Hadland's site for part numbers, etc) it's possible to sharpen rounded off pawls on a grinder. Try to grind off the minimum material and, of course, don't allow the pawl to get hot or you'll soften it. Model the edge on that of a new pawl for an AW.
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           RE:WANTED:   Sturmey Archer K7 three speed posted by Phil on 9/7/2010 at 2:20:17 PM
Hi David, Thank you for your reply, I have tried the sources in England that I know of with no luck. Luckily I have a waterstone grinder which would work for grinding.
Phil
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           RE:WANTED:   Sturmey Archer K7 three speed posted by Pete F on 9/8/2010 at 6:49:20 AM
Hi Phil - I have first hand experience of this. I had a K5 hub in which one pawl had stuck down due to hardened grease. All the work over the years had been done by the other pawl, which had worn it out. I took a chance, fitted two stock AW pawls and I'm pleased to report it works fine.
Regards,
Pete.
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           RE:WANTED:   Sturmey Archer K7 three speed posted by Phil on 9/14/2010 at 1:09:36 PM
Hi Pete, Thanks for the info, I have a set of AW pawls so will give it a whirl. They are a bit skinnier so might try a washer. Thanks again, most helpful. Regards, Phil
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Dynohub Problem - Solved posted by: Ron on 9/4/2010 at 4:29:10 PM
On 7/30/2010 I described a problem I was having with a Dynohub . A kind fellow named David had a couple of suggestions. It turns out that the problem wasn't the Dynohub. The tail light lamp had the wrong wattage. I found out by chance. Having replaced the entire wiring system, I inadvertently left the bulb out of the tail light, so I was testing only the headlamp and it worked. The switch is a bit tricky, but the "sweet spot" is still there. When I put in the rear bulb, the headlamp stopped working. Then I compared the tail lamp with a tail lamp on another Dynohub-equipped bike. The latter was 6V 1.5W. The one that made the system stop working (which I installed after using the bike without a tail light for many months) was 6V 6W. Lesson learned.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   tandem Phillips in California posted by: Zach on 9/4/2010 at 12:37:28 PM
Now here's something you don't see every day. Imagine stopping this thing in the rain with a stoker aboard!


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   tandem Phillips in California posted by Larry "Boneman~ Bone on 9/6/2010 at 4:27:17 AM
I see that as an advantage. Extra pair of feet to drag on the ground. ;-) Intersting though.... most of these tandems I've seen... the gentleman sits to the front, no?

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Yes, I do own lots of sneakers why do you ask?
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: tandem Phillips in California posted by Al on 9/7/2010 at 9:56:57 PM

Nice. Perhaps someone simply welded two three-speeds together. I have a similar set-up. Royal Enfield in front, Hercules in the back. Nice big chunk of gaspipe linking them together. Works great for riding over to pick up some ice cream.

Ah, summertime.
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AGE / VALUE:   Christopher's Book report: The Flying Pigeon bike fell from the Zambian Sky posted by: Christopher on 9/2/2010 at 6:14:53 PM
Source: Forbes Magazine May 10, 2010

The Flying Pigeon Bicycle falls from the Zambian Sky

Sram's F.K.W. Day noticed piles of bike carcases while looking out the window in Zambia in 2006
of Course he would notice the bikes he and his older brother created Sram, the bicycle componet maker who is second largest maker of bicycle componets in the world with sales of 500 million. Having proved his worth in high end cycles he now turned his attention to providing millions of despretly poor people with reliable transportation , transportation that has already proven it can hold up under the stress and strain of Africa's back roads. These bikes don't fall apart like the Flying Pigeon or Black Mambas.

Gone are the 18- gauge steel frame tubes of the typical cheap Zambian bikes known in the region as Chinese bikes flying Pigeons or black Mambas they've been replaced by larger diameter tubes, with thinner 16-gauge walls. Gone are loose ball bearings in the headset replaced by caged bearings that are easier on the assemblers. The bikes withstand the shocks of African potholes without breaking or being knocked out of alignment. The bicycles rear rack is a improved delightful design, it is made of tubular steel instead of flat pressed steel. Wide and sturdy, it can carry about anything and looking at the photo of the rack this author wants one and wants to sling a wide saddle bag onto this rear rack. The backstay is bolted on type. replaceable if damaged another proven design.
Key parts are made to Day's specification in India, Taiwan, and the Czech Republic and China.

All assembly takes place in Zambia. Day was drawn to Zambia to assist Bruce Wilkinson's World Vision in a project to teach villagers to care for peers with HIV and AIDS. These magnificent bicycles are carrying the care workers out into the field, to the thousands of tiny far flung villages that dot the Zambian Countryside. The bicycles, Day's design are not failing in their important mission, rather are holding up well. The 1000 "Pigeon" bikes Wilkinson bought wound up as roadside scrap. Ouch!!

So far, 30,000 bikes of Day's design are in circulation in Zambia. He has also established a mechanic network trained by World Bicycle Relief personel.

"Our bikes don't suck" Mr. Day say's and it is a true blessing that these machines do hold up because they have important, serious work to do. Carrying knowledge, education and personel in the fight against aids.

Used Bicycles donated by Americans didn't work out because once the bikes arrive there the people don't have parts and there is too wide a variety of bikes.

Of course,Day's bicycle is a blessing to poor people who have needed a decent bike to conquor the rough roads and tracks.


This was written with a time deadling. Signing off for today.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Flying Pigeon bike fell from the Zambian Sky posted by Chris on 9/8/2010 at 5:35:51 PM
I ran out of time when I posted the above post. The rear rack will carry 200 pounds weight over the horrible pot hole roads. It's a modified Dutch Gazelle variant.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Flying Pigeon bike fell from the Zambian Sky posted by Chris on 9/8/2010 at 5:41:47 PM
And this rack is the best ever I have seen better than (yes, wow! I will say it GEEZE!) Better than any other rear rack new or old snooping thru the past of various rear racks of any of the best of the Old School! Yes, this is the best rear rack it belongs on the back of any Raleigh bicycle it will fit to. Any bike you are going to commute on, carry stuff on, and use every day. This rear rack is the answer to prayer. Angels flutter down and hand it to you blinded by the light you hold out your hands and they hand you this rear rack and they disappear and when you are gone and your eyes adjust and you can see again you are holding this magnificent rear rack. Find me my tools bring the bike over here lets pull this thing off and get this on the bike!


Yes! this rack is that good! I'l going to be commenting on this whole deal for a bit here.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Christopher's Book report: The Flying Pigeon bike fell from the Zambian Sky posted by KevinJ on 9/9/2010 at 8:01:23 AM
What a wonderful story! The vital importance of bicycles,well-made bicycles, for transportation.

Regarding that bike rack, I'd love to see one. We've been using a trailer designed for pulling youngsters to carry our groceries from the supermarket.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Christopher's Book report: The Flying Pigeon bike fell from the Zambian Sky posted by Chris on 9/9/2010 at 6:37:23 PM
Please got a copy of Forbes and see/ read the artiicle for yourself it has pictures too!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Christopher's Book report: The Flying Pigeon bike fell from the Zambian Sky posted by Al on 9/13/2010 at 5:51:40 PM
Here's the article:

World Bicycle Relief is great!

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0510/creative-giving-sram-zambia-charity-armstrong-bicycle-economy.html

Here's a photo of the rack, among other great photos:

http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/21/bicycle-charity-zambia-creative-giving-personal-finance-sram-founder_slide_2.html




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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Christopher's Book report: The Flying Pigeon bike fell from the Zambian Sky posted by Al on 9/13/2010 at 6:18:47 PM

And here's another article with better photos of the bike and tech specs:

http://velonews.competitor.com/2009/06/bikes-tech/tech-feature-world-bicycle-project-zambia-bike_93508

A Raleigh crankset! In fact, it sure looks like a Dutch Gazelle with a velosteel coaster brake. Of course much stronger. I wish they'd export!


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Christopher's Book report: The Flying Pigeon bike fell from the Zambian Sky posted by Chris on 9/14/2010 at 8:31:40 AM
thank you Al for helping me finish this project here. They do export to Europe we will have to find out how to get our hands on this bike and the rear rack.

What has me amazed is I met this Day fellow in 1999 at the Ann Arbor bike show. "There is somebody you need to meet" I walked over and met Day he didn't say who he was or anything we discussed these bikes. I pulled out my copy of the book "Story of The Raleigh Cycle" by Gregory Houston Bowden and pointed to a picture of a bike all weighted down with weights and on a teasting appartus at Raleigh in Nottingham years ago and he studied the picture and what a coincindence, the bike in the picture is the same style frame as Day's bicycle. This is called "research and developement" he got the book from me as I had more than one copy don't remember if he bought it or if I gifted the book to him. I remember some friction he said hey, I want to do this to help in the fight against A.I.D.S./ ok? So cooperate with me! He said something that got me agitated, perhaps that these bikes are not branded as Raleigh's but that is a long story Raleigh gave up their foreign ambitions and let their quality slip.

I have also rubbed shoulders at auctions and seen Day before out in the field.

Overall, I like this fellow very much. I just wish this magic genie was a Raleigh.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Christopher's Book report: The Flying Pigeon bike fell from the Zambian Sky posted by JS on 9/16/2010 at 11:58:16 PM
Read the artcile. Lots more pictures on-line.

About the bike, I'm really not seeing anything exceptional.
-Welded double bar frame with a wider tubing. China Post Office uses a similar frame.
-Caged bearings are OK, but you can hardly say this is new.

-Coaster brake? never discussed but I see this in some pics. Also not really new, but at least you can stop in the wet.

-Still uses cottered cranks, which in my mind would be the first thing they should have done away with. The chainwheel looks like it could come from any Chinese or Indian roadster which should be no surprise because they are admittedly sourcing parts there. (Note the one pic with the chinese supplier).

-Also the rack doesn't seem too exceptional. It bolts to the seat post in the Chinese way, which is much stronger than the Dutch type clamp attachment to the seat stays. Put serious weight on this arrangement and it will any serious inevitably bend or slide down the seat stays. Meanwhile 200lbs is not such a tall order for a Chinese bike rack.

Picture of the rack on my old "Little Blue Hat delivery bike" for example. Probably the strongest thing on the bike.

What I think is missed in the points above is that the bike is built in Africa, from parts sourced all over Eurasia. For sure THIS IS A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT.

-No English or Dutch make to my knowledge every managed that.

-Chinese manufacturers have tried to find assembly partners in Africa (one of their largest markets) but never been able to make it work.

The fact that the SRAM guys can do it, even at a more elevated price range is really THE STORY here.


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Christopher's Book report: The Flying Pigeon bike fell from the Zambian Sky posted by JS on 9/17/2010 at 12:11:14 AM
Correction to my post above. Frame is not welded but lugged. Can see that in the Velonews article but not in the Forbes article.

And you can see the rack on the my little blue hat here. Sorry about the messed up link above.

http://www.flyingpigeonproject.org/2010/04/new-project-the-little-blue-hat-part-1.html#tp

If I had to guess I would say that the World Relief rack is sourced in India.

You can see pictures of similar Indian racks here:

http://www.flyingpigeonproject.org/2009/02/indian-roadsters-part-3-the-details.html

They do not have tubular supports or bolt to the seat post, though. These are very Chinese features. T

he handlebars also have a very Indian design. (multiple angles rather than one smooth bend)

Cheers

JS

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AGE / VALUE:   rthe mysterious rudge posted by: Matt on 8/31/2010 at 8:38:19 PM
i have acquired a vintage rudge pathfinder phase III i cant seem to find info on it anywhere i would like to know if anyone knows its worth and possible year of production it is red and white and looks alot like the 50's style rudge's i have seen
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   rthe mysterious rudge posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/2/2010 at 5:58:20 AM
OK, you've piqued my interest for certain. PICTURES????

Sounds quite interesting!

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - LEMME SEE IT!!!!
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AGE / VALUE:   new one on me? posted by: sam on 8/27/2010 at 4:56:36 PM
Check out this post off the CABE web site
http://thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?11205-DL-1-Conversion
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   new one on me? posted by Joe Tondu on 9/1/2010 at 7:04:18 PM
This was my post on the CABE. Sure would love to know if Raleigh produced any more of these. Bike was bought new with the top tube in place.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   new one on me? posted by Chris on 9/2/2010 at 10:12:34 AM
I think they did in Africa for models that were to have motors attached between the loop frame for motorized African Raleigh's What does the badge say? does it say made in England on it? We have enjoyed seeing this


What year does the rear hub say?
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AGE / VALUE:   Famous cycling video's posted by: Chris on 8/25/2010 at 6:45:23 PM
Distributor for

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found a video today 1988 tour of Ireland Nissan classics

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AGE / VALUE:   Famous cycling video's posted by: Chris on 8/25/2010 at 6:45:23 PM
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found a video today 1988 tour of Ireland Nissan classics

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AGE / VALUE:   Phillips pedal dustcap posted by: mark on 8/24/2010 at 10:31:11 PM
Srs--one of the dustcaps fell off my lovely Phillips pedal (Phillips Manhattan)--i have screwed it back on before this time where it got lost for good--the last time i noticed it was not holding well. any suggestions for keeping one on while still having access to pedal guts? plumbers tape maybe? i do have a spare cap to cannibalize but i don't want to lose it again. i assume generic caps are not obtainable/purchaseable? do you know of any? thanks
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Phillips pedal dustcap posted by David on 8/25/2010 at 11:08:08 AM
The caps are threaded on the inside, aren't they? I think I might try slightly flattening the threads on the pedal body with a small pliers. Just a slight pinch will require a little bit of torque to get the cap on and off. It won't actually damage anything, but it will prevent the cap from unscrewing if it loosens. Try flattening the threads on a bolt and see what you think. Good luck. I'm sure those caps are hard to find.
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MISC:   mountie query posted by: mark on 8/24/2010 at 10:20:08 PM
Sirs--for greater tyre availablity etc, how much mght be involved switching a Raleigh Mountie w/ 20 x 1 3/8 aka 451 over to the more common bmx 406 rims/tires? i want to put spare Raleigh Sports calipers on the bike, also a 3 sp AW. also want to keep the oriignal fenders.. Would there be fork or handling issues? thanks. If this is too esoteric for roadsters my apologies. this bike would be for my son.
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           RE:MISC:   mountie query posted by Matthew on 8/28/2010 at 1:48:15 AM
Hi Mark,

Fitting an AW to a 20" rim, no problem just take rearwheel from a Twenty.

Otherwise be careful of axle widths which may not suit the frame / forks.

Matthew - measure twice cut once.
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