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AGE / VALUE:   Help with Identifying bike? posted by: Matt on 5/8/2010 at 10:09:09 AM
Hi, i just brought this bike. From the badge i can tell its a Coventry racer, but thats all i know! The bloke i brought it of said it was from 1952, i was wondering if anyone knew anything about it. Thanks
there are pictures on this site
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26521438@N02/


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Help with Identifying bike? posted by Matthew on 5/8/2010 at 10:57:15 AM
Hi,

It's a Coventry Eagle. Try posting on vintage lightweight discussion board.

Matthew - enlightened by photos
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Help with Identifying bike? posted by Keith Body on 5/8/2010 at 3:16:15 PM
Hi Matt, It looks more 1970 +/- a few years to me. Fairly low end, but looks in good rideable shape, I would be happy to use it.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Help with Identifying bike? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/10/2010 at 5:34:16 AM
Whatever it is... I like it. Very classy looking machine and it would appear to be completely original.

Good find!

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Hey, if it's got mudguards... it's all good!
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's "original" condition Raleigh Tourist posted by: Stephanie on 5/6/2010 at 4:40:34 PM
Is an older Raleigh Tourist (early 80's, "T1-Raleigh Limited 20-30, high tensil, made in England") an "English Roadster"? If not, what is it? I could use help classifying my bike, and describing it.

When I was about 10 years old (1983-ish) my mom got a new bike. When she ordered it from the bike shop (in Houston TX) the salesman told her it would be one of the last bikes made in the Nottingham England factory. We waited forever for it to finally arrive, and my mom loved it dearly. But she barely road it, and it spent most of its life in our garage. Sixteen years later
(circa 1999) I inherit her worldly possesions and can't part with her beautiful bike so i ship it to my new life in Portland, Oregon. I have it serviced, the shop informs me it is a "classic" and then I park it in my garage for 10 years. I am finally ready to let go, and let someone really enjoy this bike. It has all of the original everything... even the tires. But I am stumped to name it and stumped about what to talk about when I finally list it. I have photos at the link below. If you have any advice, please do write me.

This is a partial list of features, as I can identify them from markings on the bike:

-early 80's Raleigh Tourist, 3 speeds
-made in Nottingham, England
-"T1-Raleigh limited, 20-30, high tensil"
-enhanced steel tubing
-original"Sturmey Archer England" rear component (what function does this component serve?)
-original Brookes leather seat "B66"
-original stiff-post style shifters and brakes
-original Raleigh Roadster tires, 40-635 (28 x 1.5)
-always parked in a garage
-some teeny rust spots on the surface that all seem to pop right off when i scratch them with a fingernail

photos: http://picasaweb.google.com/106082003077455721616/RaleighTouristFromEarly80S?feat=directlink


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Geoff Rogers on 5/7/2010 at 9:57:29 AM
Beautiful. You have a Raleigh DL1-L Tourist, indeed one of the last made. And it's gorgeous. These splendid old machines have been "discovered" in recent years. At one time you could find them for a song at yard sales and thrift shops, but no longer. In my opinion, your bike is worth $300 and up, depending upon who is buying, of course. I hate to suggest it, but ebay will be a good venue for getting the highest price. If it were a man's frame, it would be worth half again as much.
Best of luck,

Geoff Rogers
Shutesbury, Massachusetts
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Chris on 5/7/2010 at 12:06:17 PM
Nice post. Thanks for the pictures. I suggest taking it out and riding it and let it grow on you. It is a lovely bike, graceful and elegant. It was your moms, keep it. Yes $300.00 is about right for value.

Can you go into a bit more detail why you don't desire to keep it and ride it regularily?
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by David on 5/7/2010 at 1:47:08 PM
Keep it and ride it. These 28" wheel roadsters have a great ride that's quite different from anything else. They're good on lousy pavement and gravel and just seem to float along. You'll enjoy riding it long after the $300 you might get would be gone.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Ken on 5/7/2010 at 5:27:33 PM
Some bronze wool and effort will get all that surface rust off the still good chrome. Its gorgeous and in a very good condition. I hope it goes to a loving home.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Ken on 5/7/2010 at 5:27:41 PM
Some bronze wool and effort will get all that surface rust off the still good chrome. Its gorgeous and in a very good condition. I hope it goes to a loving home.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Stephanie on 5/10/2010 at 11:28:42 AM
Thanks for the naming help!

Chris - I have tried to make it my own, especially lately. But I just can't seem to get comfortable on it. I am 6 feet tall, so maybe it is just too small (my mother was down around 5'7")? But my knees hit the handle bars everytime I turn. Also, I live in a hilly neighborhood, and 3 speeds is just short of what I want. This year I tried to find a solution to our biking about town dilemas = I want to bike for our errands, and I need to carry my 5 year old and sacks of goods. I considered adding attachments to this bike (like an xtracycle) for the cargo and kid, but then I'd also need to change out the gears. That seemed like too many changes for a great bike. So I bought a new bike (with cargo space and more gears), and opted to let someone else have this one. It has been a hard decision becasue I am sentimental about it, but I am also not that confident on a bike to begin with so i can't feel awkward and still be successful. Hopefully it will suit someone perfectly.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Chris on 5/11/2010 at 4:48:41 PM
We don't let these go these easily, we are all hooked on these bikes.

I understand and wish you well on the new bike. Please wear a refletive safety vest and use and operate lights and keep an eye out for motorist cars who don't care about anybody except themselves. I am trying to say be careful and I wish you hours of safe and enjoyable cycling.

We are ahppy to have been of help to you.

Vests for everybody even the 5 year old so he or she is seen by cars.

You know, a thing I want to see reintroduced is the classic Watsonian sidecar from way back in the day the 1930's they had atachable sidecar aluminum and light wood beautiful fabrics that was next to the bike and not behind it. the kids and the groceries were put it the side car and everybody was smiling these were closable so the passenger was dry in case of rain these were like motorcycle sidecars only made and used with our bicycles.

Our Raleigh Tourists the tandems you see these sidecars, in old C.T.C. cyclists touring club magazines

Keith Body, please add your memories and experiences with these sidecars .

I don't like the modern child trailers. We had a horrifying experience with the Canadian made Adams Trail a bike. The thing came unattached in mid ride and every one I see I want to have destroyed. Lets just say we were lucky and I don't want to have nightmares over it again it was horrible.

As for our bikes

I want it brought back, all of it the tea shops the stops along the way the clothes they wore whilist cycling, the whole thing all of it in all it's nuances.
It's fading away and I want to see it remain alive and brought back to life.

A thing that bothers me is the demise of Roll Britannia

can somebody remind me what happened, what killed Peters wondeful and honourable work.

That web page needs to be brought back.
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           RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/12/2010 at 3:06:50 AM
As I recall, the demise of Roll Brittania was just corporate hackery. Yahoo perceived the "group" as being "idle" and simply deleted it.

Or something along those lines. I know it was very arbitrary and senseless and Peter was (rightfully) incensed.... as well as quite a few of us here.

I wonder how he's doing these days... if he still "lurks" here from time to time.

As to Mum's "Tourist"... and this is my opinion only.... I wish I had my dad's machine. He's been gone 8 years... I never actually saw his olde machine as my grandfather disposed of it many years ago.... but... I hear tell...

it had wood wheels... :-S

I would proceed with caution here.... once it's gone... well... it's not easily retrieved, I assure you.

But... we all know... we must do what we feel is best and thes machines are meant to be ridden.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Peter... you still out there????
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Keith Body on 5/12/2010 at 12:04:28 PM
Hi Chris, Your comment on Watsonian, really a bit before my time. Usually fitted on tandems, typically 1930's, and worked remarkably well. Attached by a large bolt on bracket which could be left on the bike, the sidecar was removable and clamped in to a sort of swivel. Unlike motor cycle side cars, the cycle side car allowed the bike to lean over on a corner, otherwise the stresses on the frame would have been far too great.
In 1964 my 2 year old twins were more likely to ride in the back of a Jaguar XKE fixed head (e-type in UK), while their mother was racing. I was also a bit of a car maniac (mechanic?).
There is a Waysonian in a local TCA cycle auction 16th May at Barrington in Somerset UK, (look it up) but I doubt if I will go. Also one of my non-favourite frames Thanet Silverlight with no description.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by David on 5/15/2010 at 7:15:52 AM
Peter's interests moved toward racing bikes and he still frequently posts on the Classic Rendezvous email list. Re sidecars, my mom had one around 1950 in Boston that was used by Globe newsboys. She used it to carry groceries or a second child. There was an amusing family story of her riding to Central Square with my 2 older siblings to get a puppy and the resulting difficulty with getting brother to sit in the sidecar with the dog. I last saw the sidecar in Dayton, Ohio, about 1962.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:���My mom's posted by Amanda on 5/16/2010 at 10:49:27 PM
Stephanie,

I realize you are set to sell your tourist-- but as to your problems with your knees hitting the handle bars and the 3 speeds being geared too high--- these can be addressed. The handlebars may be raised a bit higher than they are currently, and on my recently acquired tourist, I put a larger sprocket on the hub (24 teeth--used to have a 17). I can climb hills fairly easily with this set up. good luck with it... in any case, it will surely make someone a very happy lady.
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           ladies Raleigh Tourist for sale posted by Chris on 5/19/2010 at 4:42:25 PM
She's willing to sell the bike!! Oh! all the times I have seen these and they told me it was not for sale at all all the folks who tightened their grip on the handlebars and told me it was not for sale all the bikes that were never ever gonna be mine because somebody told me no. Some bikes were being used, some not been off the wall in 40 years somepeople didn't care if it was ever gonna be used they got a kick out of not letting anybody ever ride and own it.

All the money waved in their face and they would not sell it no matter what.

then they loose the number I gave them and here it's at the kerb and In get it for free! that was weird had to wait until somebody dies and then the kids were more than glad to get 20.00 for the thing or give it away.

I remember this one young gal who acted like it was a piece of junk and she was just so burdened with the shame ooh the shame of having to ride the old relic. Here it was, a Tourist. These are hip, chicque, and magical and she looked at me like I was nuts.

Myself,
I wait in anticipation does it come with the leather brooks bag too?

I would be in the garage looking thru their junk for the toiols and the sturmey archer oil can that beautifully decorated oil tin a spare reflector anything else that goes to the bike I linger after the sale looking for more. there has to be more and often I found more. Is it just a brightly painted tin of bicycle oil? Or is it more?

These vanished from the shops they were no longer in the mainstream they were no longer current stock and I loved them and was unhappy that the common customer could no longer stroll in the shop and discover these wonderful bikes themselves. So I went looking I chased the tourist and it has been interesting.
anyways, I did enjoy hearing that one was being offered and she was thoughtful enough to come to us in the part of the lake where the fish are biting!


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Brian Swander on 5/27/2010 at 9:16:59 AM
Hello,
Do you still have the Raleigh Tourist?
I recently had the one I owned for 34 years stolen from my garage (a 24 inch men's tourist) but fortunately I found one on Craig's list, in Washington state, purchased it and it was shipped to me in California.
I paid $300.00 for it and the shipping was $39.00.
I have been looking for a "Ladies" model for some time now to have as a guest bike.
I am willing to make you the same offer. Perhaps a local bike shop could box it up for you.
Let me know if you are interested.
Thank you,
Brian

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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Fiona on 6/28/2010 at 10:30:39 AM
Hi Stephanie,

Have you sold the bike yet? I just bought a Tourist yesterday but am still interested in another. I live in Canada and quite shipping to pay any associated boxing/shipping cost on top of the cost of the bike:)

Take Care,
Fiona
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Fiona on 6/28/2010 at 10:30:50 AM
Hi Stephanie,

Have you sold the bike yet? I just bought a Tourist yesterday but am still interested in another. I live in Canada and quite shipping to pay any associated boxing/shipping cost on top of the cost of the bike:)

Take Care,
Fiona
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Tim D. on 8/4/2010 at 7:58:16 PM
I inherited my father's 1973 Tourist. This was the first bike he ever owned. These bikes are very special, the ride on the 28" wheels is so smooth. I remenber this bike hanging upside down in our garage for years, my father passed and one of my brother's rescued it. He always knew how much i liked that bike and gave it to me. It is my pride and joy, it's ultra corny, but when i ride it, i can see my dad when he use to take it for spins after dinner. Please, anytime one can get a tourist or other old raleigh, please rescue it and cherish what you have.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Emily on 8/5/2010 at 7:20:21 PM
Hi-
I have recently acquired a 1946 Raleigh Women's Touring bike with all original parts. Someone offered me $500 for it. I was wondering if that was too much or too little. Thank you! Emily
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/7/2010 at 7:45:57 AM
An old machine.... without knowing the condition, originality, etc. difficult to put a value on it.

Pictures?

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Gotta see it to believe it.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My mom's posted by Stephanie on 5/3/2011 at 6:37:21 PM
Thank you to everyone that responded to my post. Just thought I'd let y'all know that I've finally listed my mom's bike on ebay:

The “item id” is 180662626347 … if you type that into the search field on ebay it should return my bike. Just thought I’d let you know…

This link may work too:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180662626347&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

Stephanie
Portland, OR

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AGE / VALUE:    bicycle Transfers decals- progress or no? posted by: Chris on 5/6/2010 at 6:17:29 PM
It appears all the old school transfers (decals) in their massive, vast and collossal inventory have been scanned onto compter and when somebody wants a decal transfer now..... the customer gets a computer made one on vinal.

I didn't put this idea in their head, they already had it in motion this is why they have been kinda half open and closed a lot. I got this tearse attitude, "that's what we are already doing!"

So the look of the restored product will be different.

With real Copal Oil varnish difficult to find and the synthetic noew entrenched and the only thing one can find without making a project out of hunting for it. We now have modern transfers hooking up with modern fixing varnish on a vintage bike. Does not sound so good but I am old school to the end. The computer is handy and they have the Genuine English Lightweight decal available but there will be diffrences.
The the over all inventory has shrunk. I've been watching them over the years.
I forget the name of the company I am mentioning about and I need one more look at the site before I set this post in cement so to speak .
So we keep a note taped to the time machine's inner cockpit "decal transfers"
I'll finish this post by monday
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Hardware for Raleigh Sports Front Hub? posted by: Rob Williams on 5/6/2010 at 12:18:18 PM
I just purchased a 1974 Raleigh Sports. Although in generally good condition, the front hub has some washers and spacers which don't look quite right. I know there should be the axle nut and a washer and then the fork; what comes next? Are the right and left hand sides the same? Thank you for your response.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Hardware for Raleigh Sports Front Hub? posted by Keith Body on 5/6/2010 at 2:02:07 PM
Hi Rob, Although Phillips/TI had to cheapen production anywhere they could, I think your front hub would have had a bearing cone, tabbed washer and locknut to adjust and secure the cone, same each side, so the wheel is reversible. If you have the fork ends with a recess on the outer face, the outer hub nut would have fitted in this, through a plain washer so that the wheel would be held straight. The hub spindle is 5/16 inch by 26TPI. Most other UK bikes just used plain nuts over a flat washer.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Hardware for Raleigh Sports Front Hub? posted by Jeff Bikeguy on 5/7/2010 at 5:26:05 AM
I took this from the late, great Sheldon Brown's website:

Most front wheels can be installed without regard for which side is left and which side is right. This is not the case with Raleigh 3-speeds. Raleigh front hubs usually don't have cone locknuts. Instead, they have one cone with wrench flats, the adjustable cone. The other cone is round, with no place for a wrench. The non-adjustable cone is supposed to screw down all the way on the axle until it runs out of threads (there is a raised shoulder on the axle for this purpose). All adjustments are to be made with the adjustable cone. The fixed cone must go on the bicycle's right, the adjustable cone must go on the bicycle's left. On the left side, the axle nut will keep the left cone from loosening up. If the wheel is accidentally reversed, so that the adjustable cone is on the right, it can tighten itself up and ruin the hub.

Raleighs also used an unusual wheel retention feature. The axle slot in the front fork end is keyhole shaped. Older hubs came with special axle nuts and washers. The axle nut had a shoulder which fitted through the axle washer and into the round part of the axle slot. Later hubs have a shoulder on the cone which fits into the round part of the axle slot, and it is necessary to spread the fork blades a bit to get the wheel in or out. This is the more common arrangement.

This should hold true for your bike. There should just be a nut and flat washer on each side to hold the wheel in place.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Hardware for Raleigh Sports Front Hub? posted by Rob Williams on 5/8/2010 at 4:41:53 PM
Thank you for both responses. On closer inspection, I see that the cones are different as described by Sheldon Brown, The right cone is "non-adjustable cone." There is a thin washer which I think goes between the non-adjustable cone and the fork blade (with the axle washer and axle nut on the outside. On the left side, there is an adjustable cone. An old Raleigh Cycle Maintenance Handbook details how to adjust the front wheel- all adjustments are to be made on the side with the adjstable cone. The accompanying picture shows an adjustble cone, a thin washer, a locknut, the axle washer and the axle nut.

On my bike, the adjustable cone + the locknut is about the same width (on the axle) as the non-adjustable cone, so the two sides are balanced.
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AGE / VALUE:   Ray or Raven Cycles--info? posted by: mark on 5/5/2010 at 10:15:14 AM
Hi, any of you know if Ray cycles (Nottingham) was a Raleigh stable brand or takeover (or dept. store) not mentioned by Sheldon? i just bought one --a ladies-- on fleabay--has 3 sp, SA trigger, genuine English lightweight decal, Ray seattube decal beautiful headbadge raven flying in sky saying "Ray cycles--made in Nottingham England" no info on web save 2 old postings here, one's a set of photos, also a one line mention of a 58 ladies with SW hub. somwhere on the web someone said Ray is Raven cycles but no details. i don't have the bike yet. the ebay ID # is 180500973973 thanks
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ray or Raven Cycles--info? posted by David on 5/6/2010 at 4:10:12 AM
I think Sheldon's clue of rear mudguard eyes behind axle is the giveaway. Also, lug details, etc. Probably a Raleigh, though. There were a million private brands.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ray or Raven Cycles--info? posted by Geoff Rogers on 5/7/2010 at 10:05:19 AM
I had a RAY, although I sold it last year. RAY was once Raven Cycles, named after the company's founder in the 1930s. I corresponded with his grandson a few years ago, who was looking for one of his dad's bikes. Unfortunately, he's in the UK and shipping would have been too high, and then he found one in England so all's well. Raleigh bought the company early on, probably before the war. The ones I have seen have been B-grade, nicely-made Raleigh machines, with the lovely enamelled headbadge showing the raven. They aren't especially valuable but any Nottingham cycle is worth keeping.
Geoff Rogers
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:Â Â Â Ray or Raven Cycles--info? posted by mark on 5/7/2010 at 12:37:24 PM
thanks David--i will check that!--and Geoff...i will try to post a pic when i have the bike....if you know of any book or website with Raven pls let me know
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ray or Raven Cycles--info? posted by Ken on 5/7/2010 at 5:42:57 PM
I recently discovered a Ray roadster frameset with a double top tube. The packing card that came in the same crate indicated export to Asia in June 1971. Serial number is KG 0412. The tubing and lugs were made in Nottingham. Serial number prefix suggests that it was made for what I suspect to be Kenya in 1970 - an order by Raleigh Industries of East Africa? Or could it have been assembled in Kenya from CKD kits? After all, such roadsters were highly popular in Africa. Its just my guess... In any case, the frame was obviously built as a workhorse. A little crude in finish compared to the UK-built Raleigh Superbe roadsters, but very strong nonetheless.


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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ray or Raven Cycles--info? posted by Mark on 11/2/2010 at 8:20:30 PM
Geoff-do you happen to recall what was on the Ray chainring [RIN maybe?] also what decals on the Ray chainguard and downtubes? i ask because i got stiffed on the ladies ray bike--only rec'd the fenders-with ray emblem by duck tail but not the frame etc--Anyhow, i have a Ray headbadge, Ray fenders and a bare 23" Raleigh mens frame; i want to recreate a Ray even if it was a nearly unknown steed in the Raleigh stable. That's also why i never posted fotos of same after asking questions on this forum. Fotos of my 53 Norman will come soon though. thanks Mark
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   LEXOL: Not bad at all! posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/5/2010 at 2:55:45 AM
Applied LEXOL to a couple of my... shall we say... "dessicated" Brooks saddles.

I'm thinking a few more applications and it should improve them immensely.

I also have a MacGuires [sic?] product that is more cream-like and utterly solvent free (it actually smells lovely) that I've been wont to try.... I have another seat I'll apply that to.

Be interesting to see what, if any differences come to light.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Buffed out what WHAT?!?!?!?!?!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   LEXOL: Not bad at all! posted by David on 5/5/2010 at 4:13:49 AM
There's been a lot of discussion recently on leather saddle care on the Classic Rendezvous email list.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   LEXOL: Not bad at all! posted by Roderic D. Schmidt on 5/6/2010 at 8:07:56 AM
I've put Lexol on the saddle I'm working on three times, and it is just about getting there. As a bonus, my hands have never been softer. Putting it in a plastic bag overnight seems to be a big help, I guess by retarding the evaporation of the solvent so it has more time to absorb. I've done that for 2 of the 3 doses.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   LEXOL: Not bad at all! posted by Kevin on 5/6/2010 at 12:30:23 PM
The plastic bag is the key. I learned that trick from a guy who restored an old, dried out baseball mitt. It's amazing how the Lexol restores and replenishes the leather fibers, but it needs that enclosed environment.

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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   LEXOL: Not bad at all! posted by Stephen on 5/7/2010 at 9:00:06 AM
Larry,
I use a meguiers product on the paint and chrome, it works very well, it seems to be the same as yours. What i have found to work the best on saddles is Westleys Bleech White Tire cleaner. It eats away dirt, and restores shine without hurting the leather.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   LEXOL: Not bad at all! posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/10/2010 at 5:38:10 AM
Bleche White, eh? I would have never thought to try that on leather. Certainly will give that a go on one of the saddles I have.

The saddle on my DL-1... the rivets are beginning to tear through the leather. A shame... but... I've got some stuff inbound that should take care of it.

Stay tuned.... I've had some ... "things" longtime waiting in the wings to do to the DL-1 that along with the aforementioned incoming, should make for a most interesting ride. Not to worry, it's all "proper" stuff and will not detract from it's personality whatsoever.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - yeah... it's time.
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AGE / VALUE:   Take a look! Blue handlebar grips? posted by: Chris on 5/4/2010 at 1:04:43 PM
Never seen these before! And what a lovely shade of blue these are!

Item # 250623630033 U.K. e- bay

After all these years of study, still new, never before seen or known stuff appears

What a huge empire it was! All the stuff produced so many variations and colors! Incredible! these are lovely.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Take a look! Blue handlebar grips? posted by Chris on 5/4/2010 at 1:20:34 PM
seller is: ozzikins

U.K. e- bay
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Take a look! Blue handlebar grips? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/5/2010 at 2:54:43 AM
Those are startling! Got the "Blues" yet Chris? ;-) Yeah... I've not ever seen any such thing before either. So often... we see this sort of thing as you mention...

Always causes me to wish... "if only it could talk...."

Then of course, there's my dark side that sez... this was a conspiracy with a ladies handbag manufacturer... after all, we all know that our grips MUST MATCH... our purses and shoes after all!

;-)

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Aint got those... but got the blues anyhow.....
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Take a look! Blue handlebar grips? posted by Keith Body on 5/6/2010 at 2:08:17 PM
In the UK the better models of Raleigh, Humber and Rudge were distinguished only by distictive front forks and colour. Raleigh dark green, Humber dark blue, and Rudge dark maroon. Some Humber were supplied with dark blue handlebar grips, more usually grey, if my memory is correct.
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WANTED:   Hardware for chain guard 68 Robinhood/Raleigh posted by: Nathan T. on 5/2/2010 at 7:19:09 PM
Hi, Reconstructing a late 1967 Robinhood 3 speed (essentially a Raleigh Sport). I found a rusty chain guard that is correct & refinished it. I need the hardware to mount it. :( Believe it is a clip/bolt/nut (for rear seat stay) and a clip/bolt/nut (for down tube). Bike has no braze ons. Anyone, have some NOS parts? Clean used parts? Thanks!

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           RE:WANTED:   Hardware for chain guard 68 Robinhood/Raleigh posted by Chris on 5/3/2010 at 7:40:05 AM
I've seen these on e- bay, seller is located in greece
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           RE:WANTED:   Hardware for chain guard 68 Robinhood/Raleigh posted by Nathan T. on 5/6/2010 at 1:06:10 PM
Thanks, I spotted those too. Those are correct for later years, 1970's and later. I believe I am looking for chrome plated clips, versus the later Zinc coated. I know Zinc would work, but I am shooting for the chrome, correct vintage.
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           RE:WANTED:   Hardware for chain guard 68 Robinhood/Raleigh posted by David on 5/6/2010 at 2:05:27 PM
I doubt Robin Hood would have had chrome plate. (There's no evidence of it on mine! Just rust!)
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           RE:RE:WANTED:   Hardware for chain guard 68 Robinhood/Raleigh posted by Chris on 5/6/2010 at 6:14:01 PM
A fairly common part, look about
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           RE:RE:WANTED:   Hardware for chain guard 68 Robinhood/Raleigh posted by Nathan T on 5/19/2010 at 9:50:49 AM
Hi, still looking for Chrome mounting tabs. My bike is all chrome, no zinc...and no rust. :) I will post photos in the near future, now that school is out. :)

Also, in need of fender support bolts, as they are missing and am in need. THANKS, and if you can offer parts...PLEASE right here. Thanks, again.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP, I havent a clue what this is? posted by: dave on 5/2/2010 at 10:21:31 AM
hi all. me and my girlfriend are trying to restore a pre war ladies loop frame roadster.
We are quite new to this, although i do know plenty about bikes of the more modern variety.
Its a really cool project but we want to know what it is so we could possibly get some new decals made up once restored.
All we know is that it has a serial number on the seat clamp which reads A278439, it seems to have a standard thread in the bottom bracket as i have ran a shimano UN52 BB cup through it easily with no issues, and the forks that came with it have a 30TPI thread.

We have spoken to a few people about the fork thread, all of whom have never heard of that TPI before, but after some Googling, we have found it could be a Rudge/whitworth.

Any help would be awesome.


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP, I havent a clue what this is? posted by Keith Body on 5/2/2010 at 1:37:52 PM
Dave, we had a pre-Raleigh Rudge on here recently with a 30 tpi screwed top head race. I have remembered that this thread was also used for the head clip type, very common pre WW2.
Can't access your photo, email me some if you like.
Frame numbers are rarely any use, unless its common enough that people with known history quote their own, to build up data.

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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP, I havent a clue what this is? posted by dave on 5/3/2010 at 9:42:46 AM
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP, I havent a clue what this is? posted by dave on 5/3/2010 at 9:43:31 AM
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try this
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP, I havent a clue what this is? posted by Tony on 5/3/2010 at 2:27:50 PM
Doesn't prove much, I know, but I've just been working on my (late '20s?) Rudge Whitworth Gentleman's All-weather, and found the frame number, A505515, on the seat clamp. Apparently the Rudge marque specialist at the V-CC should be able to date the bike from the frame number, but you'll have to join first, which'll cost £20. Tony
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP, I havent a clue what this is? posted by Chris on 5/4/2010 at 12:44:00 PM
It's worth it to join the Vetran Cycle club and more worth it to have access to their information but I doubt anybody can date the bike from the frame numbers. As Keith said, they rarely are of any help.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP, I havent a clue what this is? posted by Chas on 5/4/2010 at 12:50:52 PM
The Rudge Marque enthusiast i.d' year and month from mine,
I have no reason to doubt him.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP, I havent a clue what this is? posted by Chris on 5/4/2010 at 1:10:08 PM
Wow! Apparently the keepers of lost information steer the ship at the Vetrans cycle club

Go for it!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP, I havent a clue what this is? posted by grubb1937 on 5/13/2010 at 1:53:10 AM
The Steerer tube thread is CEI 31/32" x 30 TPI which was BSA standard steerer tube thread. If the frame has not got a metal head badge and the transfer head badge is missing it may be a BSA that you have got. If the frame does not have a headclip type headset it may be a post war model that you have. There is not much knowledge around old British cycle threads. The Raleigh/Chater-Lea use of 26 TPI on steerer tubes and bottom brackets is more well known because Raleigh churned machines out by the million.

grubb1937
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           ROD BRAKE ( BUFALO)? posted by KRAIG SMITH on 5/15/2010 at 10:46:48 AM
About a year ago I came across rod brake bike that I think is of English decent it has the word mispelled (BUFALO) as the motif on the sprocket two top tubes semi drop bars the front brake is on the right English style I supose and 28" rims. Does anbody out there know anything about this bike? I am haveing it powder coated and am beginig restoration. Thanks Kraig smith
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           RE:ROD BRAKE ( BUFALO)? posted by Chris on 5/17/2010 at 5:59:43 PM
would love to see the badge on the bike
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP, I havent a clue what this is? posted by Andy on 5/20/2010 at 8:42:37 PM
I would say another indication that it is a BSA frame is that the fork bridge looks very similar to other BSAs I have seen. All Raleighs, as far as I know, have the simple tube bridge with the inverted thimbles on either end. I would google BSA, Rudge, etc. bicycle photos and compare.

Hope this helps,
Andy
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP, I havent a clue what this is? posted by THomas on 5/24/2010 at 4:49:49 PM
I have a 7 digit serial number plus a letter "C" above the serial number stamped at a 90 degree angle on my assume late 60's Hercules Sports according to my SA hub dated 4-67. Can anybody really confirm that? I can't get any definite answer online because nobody really knows. This is tough.


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MISC:   treatment for a dry Brooks Saddle posted by: Roderic D. Schmidt on 5/1/2010 at 7:02:48 PM
Greetings All,
I just picked up a lovely '55 Raleigh Sports (working Dynohub (yeah!), no fenders (boo!)) with a very dry Brooks B72 saddle. My LBS said I could use the stuff used to condition baseball mitts to recondition it and save myself a bit of money- has anyone out there tried this with success?

Thanks in advance
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           RE:MISC:   treatment for a dry Brooks Saddle posted by Warren on 5/1/2010 at 7:52:21 PM
Neats Foot oil tends to wet the leather too much and cause the saddle to deteriorate more quickly than normal. Brook proofide is not expensive and if you properly use just a little. it goes for years.
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           RE:MISC:   treatment for a dry Brooks Saddle posted by Kevin on 5/1/2010 at 9:18:06 PM
Lexol works pretty well, too. Coat the saddle, put in a plastic bag overnight. You will be amazed how much better the leather will be.
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           RE:MISC:   treatment for a dry Brooks Saddle posted by Roderic D. Schmidt on 5/2/2010 at 7:52:35 AM
Thanks Warren and Kevin- I've got some Lexol in the house and will be breaking it out shortly.

Roderic
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           RE:MISC:   treatment for a dry Brooks Saddle posted by ann on 5/7/2010 at 7:12:07 PM
My original Brooks saddle is 48 years old...honest! been using Proofride periodically, but saddle is now pretty rough. Would Lexol soften the saddle too much? I don't want the saddle to stretch out of shape. My bum has finally molded it to fit perfectly just the way it is. Bike was bought in '62 by my aunt who handed it down to me in "70. I just need to smooth some of the rough spots/flaky bits....should I try Lexol?
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           RE:RE:MISC:   treatment for a dry Brooks Saddle posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/10/2010 at 5:55:56 AM
Perhaps apply a wee bit of it in an area that's not overtly notice-able. Should give you an idea as to how it may... or may not perform on the saddle overall.

A "Veteran" saddle like that... must be impeccably comfortable.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Form fitting, indeed!
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need Holdsworth Advice for build posted by: Jay on 5/1/2010 at 2:46:29 PM
I am looking to build up this Holdsworth, but not sure what are age appropriate components. Also the serial number on the rear dropout is 17613. Any and all information will be valued and appreciated. Than You, Jay



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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need Holdsworth Advice for build posted by Warren on 5/1/2010 at 4:58:22 PM
Wow...a Holdsworth track/path bike. See the mudguard eyelets? Very special. This is very similar to your bike here...http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/bikes/holdsworthgray-rb.html

Good luck with the parts...it will take time and mucho dollars to do this up period correct. I'd jump on a 151 bcd campagnolo pista group from the 60's if I could find it. Steel Cinelli bars and stem are tres cher as well. Beautiful! Outstanding!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need Holdsworth Advice for build posted by Warren on 5/1/2010 at 5:04:32 PM
Post this in lightweights too
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need Holdsworth Advice for build posted by Keith Body on 5/2/2010 at 4:07:30 AM
Hi Jay, You have a typical early 1950's British club bike, built for all year round riding, probably clearance for 27" wheels and mudguards, 73/73 angles, not specifically for track. The one on Peter Underhills site that Warren suggests is later, but still well before Campagnolo components. I think it could be the Zephyr about 1953.
There is confusion between W F Holdsworth, and the later Holdsworthy Company, (wholesalers and Campagnolo importers)who bought the name, (was it late 1950's) also had Claud Butler and Freddy Grubb names.
Yours would probably have had a Williams chainset, originally Dunlop narrow HP rims, a GB front brake, B17 saddle, alloy handlebar, stem being steel or alloy. Also before Cinelli were generally in use.
It would look and ride better with Campagnolo equipment but the chainset did not arrive till 1958.
The time trialist would have carried his racing wheels to the start of a race, probably BH hubs, and alloy rims, but probably not the conloy, more likely Weinmann, or one of many French or Italian makes.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need Holdsworth Advice for build posted by Jay on 5/2/2010 at 5:47:48 AM
Wow Keith, finally a little help, thank you. So it seems I have several choices and short of repainting the frame could not do anything too offensive. I have some NOS wood clincher racing rims from about 1930, never laced. I was going to put on the new Sturmey Archer 2 speed Kickback coaster brake hub, which should be a perfect fit. I do not know if there will be room for fenders after that, but will try. Campagnolo made a purple/red pantographed Gran Sport Cranckset, that looked great for this bike, even though it was 70s-ish. I guess Chater-Lea would always work, but we have a 20+ mile tow path through this river that mules use to use to pull barges up the river, and it is a bike/running path now. Thought it would be the perfect bike with 2 gears. Thank You for your ideas, Jay
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need Holdsworth Advice for build posted by Keith Body on 5/2/2010 at 1:03:09 PM
Hi Jay, I was a lightweight cycle retailer in UK when your Holdsworth was made. Warren is far more knowledgeable than me on later bikes and values, and whats what in the US and Canada.
Rather than create a museum piece your bike has a purpose, so the exact original parts are not an issue. As long as you can get tyres that are narrow enough to clear the chain stays behind the bottom bracket, and you can get the long spoke nipples to fit the spokes required, and the rims have the same number of holes as the hubs, you should be OK. It is also possible for the coaster brake torque arm to bend the chainstay, perhaps make a much longer clip for it. Coaster brakes are extremely rare over here.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need Holdsworth Advice for build posted by Jay on 5/4/2010 at 3:38:04 PM
Keith, thank you for your help. I have decided to redo it with some 70s campy gran sport. I found a pantographed crank arm that happens to have initials on it that match the racers initials on the top tube. Also, the color matches the frame. I was worried about the coaster brake. I might do something uber cool, like make a very cool bracket that attaches to both rear stays. Thank You, Jay
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AGE / VALUE:   Get a physical, see the doctor, don't have a stroke! posted by: Chris on 4/29/2010 at 4:34:09 PM
I'm not sure how to begin this post. I have finally found a good friend of 25 years, bike mentor, fellow collector pal, sometimes rival, teacher, another fellow crew member of mine from past adventures abord the flying dutchman as we chased old bikes and old cars. Many of my tales here have been my memories with him.

It was 1 1 /2 hour each way all those trips along the highways over all those years I always loved the drives.

Well, I located him, he's not dead just suffered a stroke. He could not remember or acknowledge me, didn't know my name, there was nothing i could mention to snap him back to reality. He explained he didn't understand, needed help holding the phone, he drops it.
Everything we did, all he collected and done and all he had. No memory of it. How in the he** can you visit with somebody who's mind is wiped clean?

I put it on speaker phone and listed to him talk just to hear his voice speaking and I started to cry and got off the phone.
This is why you don't let the car sit in the garage for 60 years. you enjoy it or sell it. Use it up while you have it. Somebody pulled it out, all the hidden treasures in the lair years of collecting and trashpicking all the money stashed and saved he saved like a fiend.

A stroke and it's all gone.

Yet he lived it his way and did as he chose and that is most important I guess. I hope he snaps out of it again, it can happen. I thought to myself he's left, it's all over, the memory is gone.
These things happen.

When I attended the funeral of John Delorean, the carmaker. Instead of the 23 Psalm, a Catholic quote or what is usually on a prayer card, John Delorean had:


Do not go quietly into the good night, but
Rage Rage, Rage against the dying of the light.

Bob Dylan.
And it had Delorean's picture on the card.
Outside the funeral home was an honor guard of the Delorean cars with the doors up. I got to speak to his sister who said he had on the desk plans for another Delorean car to be produced. It was in the Detroit area at Vasu Rodgers funeral home at the A.J. Desmond chapel
on famous Woodward avenue in Detroit and John wanted the common man from off the street to be able to attend and we did. It was up the street. He had jeans and cowboy boots on.
My friends memory was gone if it was not gone he would keep me talking for hours while I ran the motor idling for 2 hours or run up my phone bill.

I suggest taking the bikes or cars or whatever out into the day light up for ice cream and enjoy yourselves.

The time was well spent it was magical and I would not have missed him, not for all the world.

He's in a nursing home.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Get a physical, see the doctor, don't have a stroke! posted by Chris on 4/29/2010 at 5:15:09 PM
He's had a good live and would probably tell me. "I'm old and tired, kid."
But no, not him, he was more eager and voracious, and crazier than me it took something like this to stop him he'd be out working the streets for the old bikes at trash time and the scrap metal before me up at 3 a.m. while I still slept he beat me to it.
Also, it's a stroke and the nursing home he's not gone and it's weird to talk like he is gone when he's not but the mind is gone, blank. makes me remember a pals wife who called to explain she had altzheimers and was calling to say good by her husband went to see her and she didn't recognize him and she went on living for a bit it was difficult for him. These things are not in our control. I guess we need to be wise with our time we don't know what is going to happen.

They say, The Show must go on. When the Wallenda's fell in Detroit they switched to the next ring and another attraction they shifted the spotlight and the show went on.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Get a physical, see the doctor, don't have a stroke! posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/30/2010 at 5:26:56 AM
Scary and unsettling stuff Chris. Oddly enough, aside from I'm sure a level of frustration, you're friend is probably blissfully unaware of what's happened to him.

Alzheimer's... dimentia, IMHO the worst.... I've seen advanced Alzheimer's patients...

I hope, should I get that diagnosis, I have the wherewithall at the time to check out on my own... I see no reason to continue on as an husk of the man I was... at the emotional and financial expense of others.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - You can check out anytime you want... but you can never leave....
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Get a physical, see the doctor, don't have a stroke! posted by Chris on 4/30/2010 at 7:52:46 AM
Yes, blissfully unaware that everything went to auction and they likely got 9% of what it was really worth

sounded fine it's a good nursing home he was at dinner when I called so they said.

back in Michigan the Kevorkian van has reappeared it was supposed to be scrapped and not available to be sold to anybody as a whole piece and the scrap guy ignored the wish of Dr. Death and hid it and now it was offered and then pulled from e- bay soon to be sold elsewhere it's a mess
I haunted recycled bugs and heard the stories and now it was in the freep.com article.
they have a movie out on Jack he was a interesting case painted with human blood in the paint...
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Get a physical, see the doctor, don't have a stroke! posted by Chris on 4/30/2010 at 7:55:37 AM
I'd drive for 1 1/2 hour and then he'd say it's too hot out there not today. Didn't want to have a stroke then
I almost had them on the freeway after dealing with him

oh, the goodies!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Get a physical, see the doctor, don't have a stroke! posted by Matthew on 4/30/2010 at 1:17:07 PM
Chris,

Do not give up on your friend. Hearing is the last faculty to give up and memory is deep. Your pal may have lost the ability to assimilate language through frontal lobe damage but photos and artefacts may revive long dormant memories. he may not be able to tell you what an item is; nor may he name the people or places in a photograph but a vague smile or much nodding could be the signal that somewhere deep in his cerebral cortex a memory has been relit.

Youth and time are the two great helpmeets in any stroke. Youth will help anyone fight off the effects of all but the most severe stroke. Timely medical attention will give the best opportunity for recovery and time itself is a healer.

Much of my work revolves around people with stroke damage, vascular dementia, Alzheimer's disease or Lewy Body dementia (look them up). One thing I can tell you is that whilst character and memory disappear, the light of humanity is slow to extinguish and chance remarks, kind words and kindness can be responded to long after recognition has failed.

You cannot catch dementia; hug some one who thought they knew you.

Matthew - all in a days work.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Get a physical, see the doctor, don't have a stroke! posted by Kevin on 5/1/2010 at 6:16:12 AM
Sad story, but you offer good advice about getting a physical exam and not letting this stuff that we love just sit -- enjoy it instead.
I know a man who has a big collection of Model T Fords. He said he bought many of them from the widows of men who bought them, put them in their garages, and planned to fix them up and enjoy them someday. That "someday" never came so the wives were stuck with inoperable cars they knew nothing about and simply wanted to get rid of. It just goes to show that we only own our things for a little while, then somebody else owns them. Having said that, I think I'll start getting that 1930s Raleigh in the basement up and rolling. It's been begging me to do something with it.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Get a physical, see the doctor, don't have a stroke! posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/1/2010 at 7:01:31 AM
Your words are truth Kevin. Yes... we're merely 1/10th of the blink of an eye on the grand scale of time for sure. Even less probably.

Meanwhile do keep the hope up Chris. Many of us have been there. The lady I am with was once in an horrible car wreck... Coma for two months... YEARS of rehab... Was once told in no uncertain terms she would never SPEAK again... nor WALK again...

OK... so the recent knee replacement has her slowed down a bit as to the walking... but I daresay she's quite the conversationalist.

However... and stroke applies.... T.B.I. (Traumatic Brain Injury) does rear it's ugly head from time to time... actually, myself as well pursuant to a very serious accident. I've never felt the same since that day... it took YEARS to put a name to that beast... yet I live with it. It's funny though... as we're both T.B.I. ... we have a strange... hard to explain... understanding. It's like, I know she can't get the words out... but know what she's saying....

Same thing when my brain gets stuck "in gear" so to speak... she knows what it's about... and can cognitively understand what it is I can't seem to say. (queue Twilight Zone Theme here).

I hope your friend improves. One never knows... of all the things we do know... we know absolutely the LEAST... about the brain. Sometimes the things it's capable of... are downright startling and utterly inexplicable.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Yeah... It's dinged up... but spares aren't available I'm afraid.
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Get a physical, see the doctor, don't have a stroke! posted by Chris on 5/3/2010 at 7:08:46 AM
Thanks everybody, it sounds like he's getting good care
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           RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Get a physical, see the doctor, don't have a stroke! posted by Chris on 5/6/2010 at 6:16:02 PM
Must say, I was blown away by the tour of the place on the web. He's getting the best possible care.
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MISC:   Sorry.... posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/29/2010 at 5:57:40 AM
I just realized something....

I'm a pedalphile....

:-S

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Yeah, I know... it's just... WRONG
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           RE:MISC:   Sorry.... posted by Matthew on 4/30/2010 at 1:04:24 PM
Or are we just all a bit Cycotic?

If we own one more than two bicycles are we Cyctriatric?

Stop me... please.

All is madness.

Matthew - not quite as incorrect as Larry.
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           RE:RE:MISC:   Sorry.... posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/2/2010 at 6:57:01 AM
Cycotic.... absolutely! Or... O.C.D.? Obsessive Cycle Disorder?

That I'm not sure of... but I do have C.D.O. Wich is actually like the true O.C.D. with the exception of the letters being in the correct alphabetical order.

;-)

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Larry "Boneman" Bone - It's all good actually
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MISC:   Sorry.... posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/29/2010 at 5:57:40 AM
I just realized something....

I'm a pedalphile....

:-S

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Larry "Boneman" Bone - Yeah, I know... it's just... WRONG
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           RE:MISC:   Sorry.... posted by Chris on 4/30/2010 at 7:57:07 AM
pedal as in pedaling a bicycle
bicycle pedals
not funny larry
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           RE:RE:MISC:   Sorry.... posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/30/2010 at 12:28:46 PM
As in I love to pedal bicycles.....

I'm also a logophile which is a love of words. But then... we knew that, eh?

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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/28/2010 at 9:30:52 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150437451345&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

It's LOCAL (or local enough anyhow) to me... so I'm watching with great interest...

LateR!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - I can pick that one up....
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Jeff Bikeguy on 4/28/2010 at 10:03:28 AM
Kind of local for me too. Neat bike but I'm more interested in what else he is putting up for sale in the near future. He says he's thinning the collection.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/28/2010 at 11:07:17 AM
Yeah... I daresay it could be very scary. Sometimes... I envy the married guys.... as really, I have nobody to tell me.... "No!"

;-)

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Larry "Boneman" Bone - It's older than I am!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Keith Body on 4/28/2010 at 12:28:47 PM
Hi Larry, this certainly looks 1951, like a home market bike, but it is a 23 inch frame not 21 as described.
And the handlebars are set at least 3 inches too high.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Warren on 4/28/2010 at 5:06:37 PM
Larry you'd be foolish to let that one go...it's the last bike you'd ever need to buy! Just like the last one...and the one before...

Seriously it looks very tidy and near complete. What's that thing on the bars?
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/28/2010 at 6:26:05 PM
Yeah 23" and hub dates it to 12 of 1950. She sure looks all there... with the exception of the frame pump. That thing on the bars is odd... looks like a cup holder maybe? Yes Keith... those bars are dangerously high...

The saddle could easily absorb a pint of Proofhide [sic?] I bet!

I agree Warren.... that would be the perfect "Light Sports" to have most certainly.

I will continue to watch... with great interest.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Hawk mode ON.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Darkwater on 4/30/2010 at 9:37:35 AM
Larry, I'm leaving the field to you, but for the good of the cause I wrote to the manfromeaston:

"Nice! I have some chatty questions. Would you
share what you know about the bike's history--when
& where you acquired it, anything the previous
owner told you? Do you have any idea what the
rusty accessory on the bars might be? There seems
to be a sticker on the right fork blade; what does
it say? Thanks!"

He replied:

"Hi, I acquired it from a person who bought it at an estate sale a while back. I have no history on it..sorry. The rusty accessory on the bars is a flashlight holder..common during the 1940's-50's. The sticker says Bicycle License Milford Borough (NJ) Thank you for your interest."

Looks like a good bone to chew on . . .
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/30/2010 at 12:25:53 PM
LOL... yes... watching it still. Flashlight holder.... I wonder if the dynohub was ever hooked up?

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Gettin' my SNIPE on......
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Jeff Bikeguy on 5/2/2010 at 8:05:51 AM
The rear carrier appears to be riding kind of high. Could it be from a DL-1?
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/3/2010 at 1:59:16 AM
"A man has got to know his limitations..." - Clint Eastwood

Well, I put my max bid in, was immediatlely out-bid electronically. Perturbs me that it went for $5 more... but you gotta draw the line somewhere.

I'll keep checking tag, garage, yard, driveway and estate sales...

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - The one that got away.....
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