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AGE / VALUE:   Paging Peter Brown posted by: Chris on 4/27/2010 at 4:06:05 PM
Peter
Please e- mail me
regarding C.J. Adie and Nephew bell company

thanks

humberchristopher29@hotmail.com
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AGE / VALUE:   Ring your bell, grease your bottom bracket, oil your chain!! posted by: Chris on 4/27/2010 at 1:24:52 PM
I have to admidt I am getting a bit fed up with folks sneaking up behind me and then passing right by me silently without any warning they are approaching. No bell rung, nothing shouted out, just all of a sudden he is there and well what if I step back or move I don't want to get hit or step into his path they come up from behind. I'm standing there. It's not right they need to ring a bell or let me know they are there.

Another thing, every one of these bikes are junk mountain bikes all of them not ever seen grease or oil since it was assembled new in Taiwan or China. None of those bottom brackets have been greased or any of the chains everything is run dry and neglected rusty and neglected. None of this stuff is ever maintained like it's supposed to be magically made where it does not need it?

When did it become fashonable to not take care of a bike. This junk is not made to be serviced the makers do not encourage it, folks just don't do it parts are not made available easily for things to be rebuilt or repaired or maintained. This is why I like our bikes and we have bells, horns and flags on our bikes. A genteel aura too!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ring your bell, grease your bottom bracket, oil your chain!! posted by Law on 4/28/2010 at 6:14:19 PM
Chris,

I hear what you are saying.... we all do. Our bikes are from another era, when things were kept and repaired. Now it seems that things are used with the idea that becoming expendable is the norm. We do not choose to believe this way. Let them go on with their ways, continue with your. Be ready and open to bringing them around to see the benefets of finding quality made bikes and taking care of them.

As for me, I'm getting tired of yelling out, I will get a bell.

Law
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ring your bell, grease your bottom bracket, oil your chain!! posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/28/2010 at 6:35:33 PM
So... how izzit U know their bottom brackets aint properly greased? HEAR 'EM SQUEAK didya? ;-)

Law's spot on. Seriously... EVERYTHING these days is designed to be "maintenance free" and disposable. Doggone it, I remember dad teaching me to METICULOUSLY grease the steering linkages on the car every time I changed the oil.

Yeah... that's working out real well these days... THERE ARE NO FITTINGS!!!!

Oddly enough.... when such things as ball joints, tie rod ends, etc. do require renewing... the new parts come with grease fittings.

What was real interesting was a few years back I had a Dodge D50 pickup truck... by Mitsubishi... and being a truck that thing had grease fittings EVERYWHERE... including Upper and Lower control arm shaft bushings. It was AWESOME!

In a way, the dubious Wal*mart throwaway bikes are well suited... It chagrins me to no end to see the way kids treat their machines these days... just toss them over out in the lawn... leave them sit in all the elements... Lord knows when I was a lad I nearly WORSHIPPED my bicycles. They were my FREEDOM for cryin' out loud. I took care of them.

Heck... 90% of the kids I see riding around... have barely enough air in their tyres to keep the rims off the pavement.

It's quite unsettling to say the least.

As to bells... yeah... they're the deal on our English machines. My Rat Fink Chopper though? LOUD AND FUN CLOWN HORN.

The right tool for the job and all that, eh?

:-)

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Loud and proud IS SAFE AFTER ALL!


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ring your bell, grease your bottom bracket, oil your chain!! posted by Kevin on 4/29/2010 at 11:49:20 AM
Chris -- I agree, but at least the dry, squeaking chains and all those dry, grinding ball bearings sort of let you know they're coming up behind you.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ring your bell, grease your bottom bracket, oil your chain!! posted by chris on 4/29/2010 at 5:07:16 PM
squeaking seats, chains, yes, it helps.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ring your bell, grease your bottom bracket, oil your chain!! posted by Andy on 4/30/2010 at 12:15:17 PM
I will say that here in Oakland, there is a youth culture that worships their bikes, called Scrapers. They deck them out with candy wrappers and the like, modify the hell out of them, and cruise around in big packs... it's a sight to see:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94318161
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ring your bell, grease your bottom bracket, oil your chain!! posted by Chris on 5/3/2010 at 7:45:15 AM
We seem to be living in an age where nobody maintains their bikes they don't know how, own no tools, don't know how to use the tools, they don't want to know until it fails completely. I see so many bikes without brakes. Brainless zombies pedaling down the street on squeeky, rusty junk.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ring your bell, grease your bottom bracket, oil your chain!! posted by Steve B. on 5/5/2010 at 2:55:38 PM
Look on the bright side: I have retrieved Bianchis, Specialized, and other assorted brands from our local trash bins and metal mongers, all which Have repaid my time invested handsomely.I have a stable of lubed, adjusted and reclaimed retro rockets, some of them quite eclectic, which I couldnt have dreamed of owning on a retail buying basis. I fix them to sell- only problem is, I fall in love with my trashy finds and cant seem to give them up; Im starting to feel like a bicycle pimp who cant sell the goods he's in love with -so\\-SOMEBODY STOP ME!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ring your bell, grease your bottom bracket, oil your chain!! posted by Steve B. on 5/5/2010 at 2:56:35 PM
Look on the bright side: I have retrieved Bianchis, Specialized, and other assorted brands from our local trash bins and metal mongers, all which Have repaid my time invested handsomely.I have a stable of lubed, adjusted and reclaimed retro rockets, some of them quite eclectic, which I couldnt have dreamed of owning on a retail buying basis. I fix them to sell- only problem is, I fall in love with my trashy finds and cant seem to give them up; Im starting to feel like a bicycle pimp who cant sell the goods he's in love with -so\\-SOMEBODY STOP ME!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ring your bell, grease your bottom bracket, oil your chain!! posted by curtis on 5/9/2010 at 9:29:43 AM
These posts made me finally get off my lazy bone and make my bell!
Used a bracket from a reflector, and a brass bell from a stash of old telephones I've had laying around.
Genteel aura, indeed! Ding!!!!!
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AGE / VALUE:   Have you see it? posted by: chris on 4/26/2010 at 6:46:58 PM
GHave you seen the nre Schwinn T.V. comercial I love it!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Have you see it? posted by JDuck on 4/27/2010 at 7:13:49 AM
Yes, I loved it. The first bike commercial I have seen for a very long time.
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MISC:   This is just.... so very very wrong! posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/26/2010 at 7:28:23 AM
http://www.kansas.com/2010/04/25/1285561/tattooed-bicyclist-miffed-at-traffic.html

Let this be a lesson to us all... keep it over 5mph at all times?

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Picture that willya!!!!!
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           RE:MISC:   This is just.... so very very wrong! posted by Ken on 4/26/2010 at 5:27:44 PM
:) I marvel at how different life in the USA is compared to where I live in Asia. If this happened in Singapore, the guy would've been arrested and thrown in the lockup. 5mph wouldn't even have been an issue. The laws would've been indecent behaviour in public or being a public nuisance, and if a lady who reported him for a 'slipped' thong, possibly (3) outraging her modesty...
Haha!

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           RE:MISC:   This is just.... so very very wrong! posted by sam on 4/26/2010 at 8:27:56 PM
San Antonio had the "original Thong Bicycle rider" Only he died a few years ago.He made headlines by riding his bicycle in only a thong--Police gave up and just left him alone--he was not in violation of the law.Dies in a climing accident!
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           RE:RE:MISC:   This is just.... so very very wrong! posted by Chris on 4/27/2010 at 1:46:24 PM
In a town where motorists already hate the cyclist too! One reason why our bikes have enclosed chainguards so pant cuffs don't get in the chain. For hockey stick or "open chain" bikes without a full, enclosed chaincase the Terry's company made metal clips or trouser bands as they were called. Today's bike shops have velcro reflective bands to be worn around your ankles to keep the pants out of the chain plus, it is reflective too. It's a good thing I don't have and carry my "Scotish Thorn stick" with me. Too many nitwits out there. Plus Imagine the nice police officer holding it up after they stoped me and took it away from me.

(police officer is holding it up, examining it, swinging it around)
"It's called a what?" Neat! Wow! Where did you find it?
It's how old?
Yea, I saw you ram it in that bicyclists spokes and smack the fellow up side his head!

Yes, you can carry it legally as a cane but you have to only use it for self defense not to take out fustrations.
Chris- better off without a cane!
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Raleigh lock nut posted by: Dan on 4/25/2010 at 12:00:14 PM
Okay, I know there's an obvious answer to this but darned if I know it. When removing the front forks off of a 1940's Raleigh, the lock nut is round with 4 cutouts. I've tried everything feasible, did Raleigh make a special tool for this or am I just plain dumb?!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Raleigh lock nut posted by Keith Body on 4/25/2010 at 12:15:07 PM
Hi Dan, There used to be a "C" spanner to do this, not very well. The top head race is case hardened, you could chisel the slots in it gently to tighten it a little (screw downwards) to loosen the top nut.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Pedal disassemble posted by: law on 4/24/2010 at 3:48:50 PM
Hey all,

Got another question for ya'. My raleigh pedal needs a cleaning. I got the cover cap off and took the nut off as well but it will not come apart. I turned it over and took the 2 small nuts off that side as well, no go. What is the proper way to take this down for re-greasing ?

Does it matter that it is still connected to the crank arm ?

Thanks a bunch ! Law
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Pedal disassemble posted by Larry "Boneman" bone on 4/24/2010 at 5:40:45 PM
That's a bit of a conundrum... Sounds to me as if you've done all that should be... the "cap" off... then the nut... wait.. .there is a bearing cone in there as well if memory serves... You may need to back that out as well... and be ready... the balls will merrily fall out of there and bounce around like madmen... don't lose any!

Good luck!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - balls.... would not want to be short one!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Pedal disassemble posted by Keith Body on 4/25/2010 at 2:30:24 AM
Hi Law, original UK raleigh pedals have a tabbed washer under the nut, when eased off exposes the end bearing cone, which then unscrews, ordinary cup and cone bearings, were they 5/32 inch? Its something like 55 years since I had one apart.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Pedal disassemble posted by Keith Body on 4/25/2010 at 2:31:15 PM
Hi Law, forgot to say it's a lot easier with the pedal off the bike. They are screwed in tight, RH is right hand thread, LH is left hand thread.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Pedal disassemble posted by law on 4/25/2010 at 5:44:23 PM
Kudos to the " collected " knowledge !

I appreciate the info Larry and Keith. Both of you got the project one step closer. It was the tabed washer that held me up. Once I got some BB blaster on it and took a look with a magnify glass, yes I know , I was able to see the tab. I about stabbed my hand with the small screw driver when I remembered the trick. Lift both sides up with the needle nose. Parts are all cleaned and back together.

I hear you on the bearings. Anytime I work on loose ones I use the top off a big industrial scale turned upside down for a catch all, made of steel 40 by 40 cm with shallow sides it is ideal.

Too bad I only had one of the pedals (R ), the other is a union made in Germany. Not rebuildable ?

I need to find a ( L ) one.

Moving forward. Law
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Pedal disassemble posted by Warren on 4/25/2010 at 7:22:40 PM
Many Union pedals were of very good quality and rebuildable. In fact I think they made pedals for Raleigh in the twilight years.
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           RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Pedal disassemble posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/26/2010 at 3:01:21 AM
I've heard Union pedals are pretty good as well. I have a Colt from 62 that's been cannibalized over the years... lemme looksee as I don't think I've even removed the pedals.

Will advise.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - It's spring... when we pedal past the newly bloomed petals... (OUCH!)
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Western Flyer posted by: Stephen on 4/22/2010 at 1:11:22 PM
Did raleigh ever buy out western fler? If so when, thanks, stephen
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Western Flyer posted by Chris on 4/22/2010 at 5:26:32 PM
My guess is they just produced some bikes with their name on them under contract. What became of the actual western flyer bike company I do not know.


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Western Flyer posted by Stephen on 4/22/2010 at 6:39:28 PM
I have a 1960 model, it says western flyer manufactured by western auto spply, so i imagine that that's pre raleigh buyouts.

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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Western Flyer posted by sam on 4/22/2010 at 8:09:59 PM
Western Flyer bicycles were sold by Western Auto stores.Western Auto did not make bicycles---or any of the 1000s of products they sold.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Western Flyer posted by David on 4/23/2010 at 1:03:50 PM
Western Auto sold "guy" stuff; tires, car parts and accessories, sporting goods, etc. They were big into the 60s, at least.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Western Flyer posted by ken on 4/25/2010 at 6:31:16 AM
Two of their suppliers were Murray and Huffy. Three-speed Huffys (Huffies?) with S-A hubs were common during the boom. Did Raleigh do rebadges? I thought they just supplied some lower-echelon badges of their own; my boyhood Armstrong came from the Coast to Coast Store.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Western Flyer posted by abel on 5/30/2011 at 1:30:29 AM
i have restored a western flyer (as they say) ladies 24"... im not sure what model it is. please see the pictures...

serial no HA009669... with another number above the low tube(crank support)and it has a flat iron along seatpost with serial nos. same number with the low tube. 3 speed hub. with saddle(PERSONS)... i dont know what year and model... is it a murray or shelby or HUffy... ?????


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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Western Flyer posted by abel on 5/30/2011 at 1:30:32 AM
i have restored a western flyer (as they say) ladies 24"... im not sure what model it is. please see the pictures...

serial no HA009669... with another number above the low tube(crank support)and it has a flat iron along seatpost with serial nos. same number with the low tube. 3 speed hub. with saddle(PERSONS)... i dont know what year and model... is it a murray or shelby or HUffy... ?????


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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1974 sport posted by: Lee on 4/22/2010 at 7:32:45 AM
My 1974 Raleigh Sport that I just finshed cleaning up. Turned out pretty nice.
Lee


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1974 sport posted by Brad from Greenacres, FL on 4/22/2010 at 6:33:11 PM
Lee,

Looks great ! I'm currently rebuilding a 74 Raleigh Sports men's bicycle from the ground up. I purchased an old frame on Ebay. I had about 75% of the parts already. I've purchased most of the other parts off Ebay too. Mine also started out the olive green color. Since I had to strip the frame anyway, I've changed the color to "Sky Blue" or to be specific "Medium Quasar Blue Metallic" a GM color. I should have it completed in another month. I'll post pictures once I'm done with it.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1974 sport posted by Brad from Greenacres, FL on 4/22/2010 at 6:33:25 PM
Lee,

Looks great ! I'm currently rebuilding a 74 Raleigh Sports men's bicycle from the ground up. I purchased an old frame on Ebay. I had about 75% of the parts already. I've purchased most of the other parts off Ebay too. Mine also started out the olive green color. Since I had to strip the frame anyway, I've changed the color to "Sky Blue" or to be specific "Medium Quasar Blue Metallic" a GM color. I should have it completed in another month. I'll post pictures once I'm done with it.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1974 sport posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/23/2010 at 3:10:00 AM
Well done. I have one exactly the same... waiting for it's day in the "cleanup zone".

It is my experience that the ladies frame versions tend to be much better preserved and clean up as-new in many cases.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Step through THIS!


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MISC:   Paging Larry Bone/ Ultimate Sidestand posted by: JS on 4/21/2010 at 4:09:36 PM
Hey Larry-

Something you're going to want to see:

http://www.flyingpigeonproject.org/2010/04/ultimate-sidestand.html

Keep 'em flying!

-JS
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           RE:MISC:   Paging Larry Bone/ Ultimate Sidestand posted by Chris on 4/21/2010 at 6:46:53 PM
Neat. Thanks for showing it to us. I remember seeing this style of prop stands/ stuff in catalogs. But this person made the bird out of admiration! Neat!

I went as far as ringing up a fellow by the name of Mr. Gotto who exported the Koba line of kickstands and funky "Koba- Kobatnik" tail lights that resembled satalites. There was an earthquake and I couldn't get through any more.
I have lost track of the Koba company and hope they are still trading.

Anyways........Here's Larry!
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           RE:MISC:   Paging Larry Bone/ Ultimate Sidestand posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/22/2010 at 4:39:14 AM
That is... well executed, unique and quite stylish! Thanks for posting it!

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Here we call 'em "kickstands"....
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           RE:MISC:   Paging Larry Bone/ Ultimate Sidestand posted by Jesi on 6/20/2011 at 5:52:16 AM
hello, if anyone is interested in purchasing a new in the box actual KOBATNIK tail lights I have a sety of them that I am selling! Contact me at shrubland944#@gmail.com
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AGE / VALUE:   What is on your shed roof? posted by: Chris on 4/21/2010 at 3:42:29 PM
Saw a description for a bike up for sale. The seller says it was on the shed roof! It was a favorite bike in the 1970's but he admidts it has been on the shed roof

the shed roof is not a place for any bike what was the bike bad?

chris, on the shed roof
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   What is on your shed roof? posted by Chris on 4/21/2010 at 6:39:43 PM
I guess proper storage is a problem. I've seen them in sheds with leaky roofs and basements, all sorts of places. I remember one bike was in a kennel covered in Beagle ( dog) fur. It was a nice Schwinn Sting Ray.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   What is on your shed roof? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/22/2010 at 4:44:30 AM
Depends on the type of shed... if it was a WOOD shed.... well, obviously the machine had behave VERY badly!

;-)

Storage is an issue. Think about it... is there not an entire INDUSTRY in this country dedicated to storage? Such franchises as "Public Storage" even that advertise on National TV.

I find their current commercial rather offensive myself... but I get their point.

I need a shed myself... to put my yard machines in. Currently in the garage: Lawnmower, walk behind leaf blower, snow blower, Power washer.

If I could get THOSE out of there...

Yeah.... a shed would be a great idea.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - shedless....
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   What is on your shed roof? posted by Geoff Rogers on 4/22/2010 at 10:14:11 AM
There's a bike shop in Lymington in the New Forest, England, which has several fifties roadsters bolted to the outside walls and roof, all sprayed with thick yellow paint. Ick. I have checked them out and I think at least one has a Dyno-Four (FG) hub. Seems a shame the things we do for art's sake sometimes.
Geoff Rogers
Shutesbury, Massachusetts
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   What is on your shed roof? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/23/2010 at 3:07:48 AM
There's an odd practice I've seen that your tale reminds me of... Folks get an old machine... thus far, I've only seen the garden variety ten speeds with drop bars... they paint them COMPLETELY white... tyres, pedals, seats, etc.

"Ghost Bikes" I think they call them... originally, done and placed in areas where riders have been killed in accidents... but lately, I've seen them as "art" (unless riders have been run down in peoples gardens.... I dunno).

It's strange... and unsettling. What you describe... is sad as well.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Arts and Croissants.... NOT bicycles.
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AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Again posted by: Stephen on 4/21/2010 at 12:25:14 PM
Thanks all for replying. The numbers were rusted, but it seems to say 5 57. making it a 1957. Does this sound right/ I do not have the pictures on the web, but i can email them to you if you give me an address. Could anyone put a value o this bike? I got it for 10 bucks!!!! By the way i'm only 14, but i have an obsession with old cycles, i have ten.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Again posted by Chris on 4/21/2010 at 1:53:29 PM
About the age when I started collecting old bikes.
1957 sounds right.

Ten dollars is a very good price to pay you will enjoy the bike and when and if, you do sell it you will make money off of it. Keep collecting the old bikes keep us posted

We have been all through these, we know these bikes well many of us own them or have owned them. Any questions? ask us.

The sturmey- Archer four speed hub is worth at least 75.00 alone by itself.

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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Again posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/22/2010 at 4:50:48 AM
$10 for an original 57 Dunelt, I dare say was very well done! Do stumble about here... between the links and the ramblings of our "membership", probably the best resource of knowledge at your disposal.

Let's do get this out in the open as it's VERY important... especially considering your machine particularly...

It's a quote we oft refer to here. Not sure to whom it's attributable, but obviously someone with a vast depth of wisdom:

"It's only original ONCE."

Keep that in mind as you're poring over the machine pondering what might or might not need replacing. It's a 57 Dunelt and I daresay, especially in the USA, that's quite a rarity.

Yes... yes... this coming from a fellow that's just recently posted up his "Lite Sprite" project.... but I daresay, a tall-framed, coffee brown, 5 speed train-wreck geares Sprite from approximately 1973.... a vastly different machine altogether.

Glad to hear the bike was discovered by and now is safely overseen by someone that will truly appreciate it. All to often I pain to ponder how many such machines are awaiting discovery by future archeologists as they've fossilized in landfills all about the planet.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Dunelt's rule!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Again posted by Keith Body on 4/22/2010 at 1:09:25 PM
Stephen, I seem to remember Dunelt as being manufactured by Phillips as one of their many names from about 1950/51, and of course Phillips/TI later bought Raleigh, the rest is history (they are now)
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AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Age posted by: Stephen on 4/20/2010 at 3:20:21 PM
I ahve a dunelt, has dunelt pedals, sprocket, and birmingham 40 headbadge. It also has a headlight, with a generator on the front wheel. Sturmey and archer 4 speed, yes 4 speed. Does anyone know how to age this?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Age posted by Warren on 4/20/2010 at 4:38:33 PM
Put it in the basement for a few years? Arf!

The Sturmey Archer hubs have date codes on them...month and year. They were very decent bikes until Raleigh took them over and slowly made them into one of their second tier lines. Still Raleigh quality but not top drawer. I have a mid 50's Sports model and really enjoy the ride.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Age posted by Chris on 4/20/2010 at 5:50:09 PM
Stamped on the hub shell next to where it says f.w. it should say something like: 8 58 which would be the 8 th month or August of 1958

there is a date stamp when the hub was made and the bike should be made about the same time

unless your rear wheel was switched or changed

These are nice bikes, the Birmingham made ones are cool and more magical. Any other questions?
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Age posted by chris on 4/20/2010 at 6:17:16 PM
Dunelt had quite a following a famous marque yes popular. We brought these in, sold a lot, a friend said.

You will see handbuilt touring bikes with 531 tubing and expensive componets and the Dunelt badge on the headtube

When you hear it is a Dunelt it probably is a 26 inch wheel 3 speed bike but then again there were 4 speeds and rod brake versions and 3 wheel delivery bikes and Dunelt had a long history before the Raleigh merger and then they were made by Raleigh and those were nice too. It also could be a expensive touring bike. The badge has a following. My point is don't assume go, bring cash buy it bring it home

It could also be a Dunelt Fleur D Liese a expensive touring bike

I loved finding these and I'd be in the parking lot loading it up and still, after all these years and adventures and all the bikes I have had still I would be happy and grining and excited because it is a four speed that is a bonus. A treat.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Age posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/21/2010 at 5:51:45 AM
I was 10 years old when I took a chance ride on a friend's Dunelt. At that very moment in time, I caught the English "Racer" bug. Yes... I know that's wrong but that's what we called them then.

His was a small frame 3-speed in RED. I would almost bet, if I contacted his parents, it may still be in their garage........ I'm sure his was Raleigh built. You've got an original Pre Raleigh machine.... which as you can tell, many here would go the distance to acquire.

PICTURES PLEASE!!!!! ;-)

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Dunelts are... awesome.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Age posted by Geoff Rogers on 4/21/2010 at 9:58:39 AM
Dunelts are definitely awesome. I rode my '60 Fleur de Lys to work today. It's a 531 butted frame machine which I bought at the Copake swap meet a couple years ago, a little bit worn-in but a fine bicycle and pretty rare. I also have a thirties kid's machine with 24 inch wheels,coaster rear and a rod brake front, a '55 Sports and a '67 28-inch bike with rod brakes (of course), another favorite of mine. You might even say i collect Dunelts, I suppose. If your badge says "40," it's a Birmingham-built machine and therefore pre-1961, not made by Raleigh but every bit as good. A 4-speed one with dybnohub is rare. Can we see pics?
Geoff Rogers
Shutesbury Massachusetts, USA
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Age posted by Geoff Rogers on 4/21/2010 at 10:00:59 AM
Dunelts are definitely awesome. I rode my '60 Fleur de Lys to work today. It's a 531 butted frame machine which I bought at the Copake swap meet a couple years ago, a little bit worn-in but a fine bicycle and pretty rare. I also have a thirties kid's machine with 24 inch wheels,coaster rear and a rod brake front, a '55 Sports and a '67 28-inch bike with rod brakes (of course), another favorite of mine. You might even say i collect Dunelts, I suppose. If your badge says "40," it's a Birmingham-built machine and therefore pre-1961, not made by Raleigh but every bit as good. A 4-speed one with dybnohub is rare. Can we see pics?
Geoff Rogers
Shutesbury Massachusetts, USA
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Age posted by Matthew on 4/21/2010 at 12:26:08 PM
My trade bike is a Dunelt.

Rare, yes perhaps.

Matthew - more rare still.


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dunelt Age posted by SpfldKen on 4/27/2010 at 8:14:23 AM
My favorite (and daily rider)-the 1970 Dunelt Roadster in the foreground.


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           Dunelt bikes posted by R-LO on 8/7/2010 at 5:28:55 PM
How can i find out the year of a Dunelt. I came across one at a garage sale. its black and white, female bike, 3-speed and appears to be complete. any info would be great. thanks.
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AGE / VALUE:   Who was Harvey Webb Pearce of Toronto? posted by: sam on 4/18/2010 at 7:08:07 PM
Who was he?---Who did he work for? Who made his pedal?
http://www.google.com/patents?id=pi1EAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=1519327&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Who was Harvey Webb Pearce of Toronto? posted by David on 4/19/2010 at 6:56:54 PM
Who? One of hundreds (thousands?) of inventors of improvements to the bicycle. Gibson, his assignee, might be more likely to have produced the pedal, although it may never have been produced at all. Isn't Google Patents wonderful?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Who was Harvey Webb Pearce of Toronto? posted by sam on 4/20/2010 at 5:48:45 AM
It was produced---I have a set.But I don't know for what bicycle they may have been used on or were they an After-Marker part??Did CCM produce them?May never know?---sam
And yes Google Patents rock!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Who was Harvey Webb Pearce of Toronto? posted by Warren on 4/20/2010 at 4:51:20 PM
They certainly do look like Gibsons...outstanding aluminum pedals. They were used on some Massey Harris Silver Ribbons and CCM Delivery bikes. I have a '36 CCM catalogue showing Gibsons but no HWPs
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Who was Harvey Webb Pearce of Toronto? posted by Chris on 4/20/2010 at 6:22:43 PM
Now find an old phone book from 1939 and look him up......

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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   accessories and stores posted by: Law on 4/18/2010 at 4:04:41 PM
All,

Had to take the trip to my reg bike shop for the bottom bracket. Still no tool for it in my workshop.I don't want to rig up some other way of getting it loose and risk damaging it It had me worried because when trying to turn the axle, it would move slightly back and forth but go no further. It would also make the grinding noise. Needless to say, I did not force it anymore. The guy in the back jumped right to it and opened it up. Nothing looked overly wrong except really old oil turned hard. The mechanic even put new bearings in a bag and put the rest in a larger bag for safe travel.

Q? does everyone reuse the old bearings if there are nothing wrong with them or replace them as the mechanic said.I would rather keep it as original as possible.

Anyway, cleaned things up when I got home and it is ready to be reassembled.Good news is that the charge was only 5 dollars for bottom bracket removal, new bearings and a quick rim truing on my back wheel.

Roderic and Chris, thanks for the info on the pump. I'm with you, some of the newer pumps will give you a work out just trying to get a wisp of air into the tube. Thanks for letting me know that the product is worth it.

Also, Roderic, I do intend on combing through the store soon. I hope the store stays around for a long time as they are good people. I shold be back there to check it out this week. I want to see what I can find, anything else I might get at the big vintage swap meet coming Saterday around here. Shop might give me better prices.

All this leads to the day when I can shove off from my driveway and go get some coffee downtown.

Later, Law
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   accessories and stores posted by Chris on 4/20/2010 at 5:53:38 PM
New ball bearings are best and you don't need to save them.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   accessories and stores posted by Chris on 4/20/2010 at 6:29:58 PM
Feel free to depart from keeping it original as you want to. It is your bike. You may, upgrade brake shoes, whole brake assemblies, tires, tubes, lights whatever puts safety first old things deteoriate, rot, wear out,

put your safety ahead of keeping the bike original. Use the new brake pads that are not dried hard fresh rubber brake pads are better so what if they are colored differently than black. You can put new brake cable inner wires in the old original casing. brakes need to be safe.

keep us posted
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AGE / VALUE:   Movies by Moonlight at HemisFair Park posted by: sam on 4/16/2010 at 6:37:08 PM
Get your roadster in order(ballooners,L/Ws,choppers etc)cause in June you can bike down to the park for a free movie--great way to spend a night in San Antonio
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Movies by Moonlight at HemisFair Park posted by Chris on 4/24/2010 at 8:57:25 AM
Plus the added bonus of not paying the 10.00 - 15.00 mostly 15.00 for parking your car

plue cutting thru the crowds easier
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Movies by Moonlight at HemisFair Park posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/25/2010 at 5:39:15 AM
Sounds like a very nice evening event. I'm somwehat envious. ;-) ENJOY!

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - like a drive in... but where do you hang the speaker?????
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Movies by Moonlight at HemisFair Park posted by Chris on 4/27/2010 at 1:24:47 PM
A fellow opened up a drive in restaurant real close to Hemisfare that sells hamburgers and fries to motorcyclists. Instead of your driving up in a car and parking there. It has stools and a table under the canopy.

Like an A& W drive in only for Hogs. This way you can keep an eye on your motorcycle. When a motorcycle can cost $30,000 you want to keep an eye on the bike.

I hope it is going to be a success. He's cleaned the place up and painted.
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