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AGE / VALUE:   Men's Royal London posted by: Curtis on 8/30/2011 at 7:57:08 PM
Hi, it's Curtis, the Rudge guy from last winter..What we have here is a men's bicycle I picked up tonite in Brooklyn NY. I'm looking for a date and any other info or stories about it..
The front head badge is a bit too scraped to read well, but on the front down tube is ROYAL LONDON, rear down tube has Manufactured In England with Guaranteed Years.
Front and rear rod brakes. Gorgeous Sturmey Archer shifter on top tube - Low'N'High positions and SA AW rear hub with no discernible date stamp (at least until I can look in the sunlight.) I've rubbed and looked at the rear hub carefully, but so far cannot find a date. Royce Union seat, probably not original..

7934 stamped on one side of the seat tube, and what looks like 1022 stamped on the other side.


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http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/curtibun/1314760682.jpg?t=1314760683

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f72/curtibun/1314760535.jpg?t=1314760537

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Men's Royal London posted by Curtis on 8/30/2011 at 8:52:03 PM
26 X 1 3/8 wheels, front and rear..
Bolt-on rear fork.
Missing the chain guard and all original reflectors and pump, and a few nuts here and there..
Rides and shifts straight and true, like a gentleman!
Very nice metal oilers on front and rear hubs, and bottom bracket.
Wheels need straightened and everything needs oiling..

I'm excited by my first rod brake bicycle! Can ya tell?
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Help with Armstrong time frame posted by: Michael on 8/30/2011 at 6:25:17 PM
Hi,

I'm picking up this Armstrong bicycle in a few days. I haven't seen it in person yet. It's got rod brakes and is a single speed. Rear dropout is rear facing and horizontal. I'm not interested in value or anything, I just want to get an idea of the time frame it may be from. The owner thought 1930's, but I'm not so sure. Thanks.


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MISC:   Shimano 333 F hub assembly posted by: IrishMail on 8/30/2011 at 10:45:42 AM
Refurbing a 72 Firestone 3-spd, and wanted to regrease the rear bearings, innocently thinking it was a Sturmey-AW. After removing the left cone & inner spring, the right side assembly came out and the 2 sliding-keys too - OOPSIE.


Guys, I could sure use a couple of tips toward reassembly (before calling Kevorkian).

detaialed photos here > http://photobucket.com/shimano-333


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           RE:MISC:   Shimano 333 F hub assembly posted by IrishMail on 8/30/2011 at 10:58:54 AM
photo insert failed, but link to PhotoBucket is good
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           RE:RE:MISC:   Shimano 333 F hub assembly posted by Larry "Boneman" bone on 9/2/2011 at 11:55:59 AM
Hmmmm.... the last Shimano hub I had even part way open was on my 68 Columbia Playbike.... and that was when I was probably 12 or so.... 40 years ago....

I remember at that time it was a bit of a daunting challenge.... but patience and care, I did get it back together...

Good luck with it. Interesting machine you have there.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - as long as there's no leftover parts.....
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           RE:MISC:   Shimano 333 F hub assembly posted by Dale on 9/13/2011 at 9:17:57 AM
Requires a special tool to open it up. I gave mine to a shop and know its whereabouts...
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           RE:MISC:   Shimano 333 F hub assembly posted by Chris on 9/14/2011 at 9:52:12 AM
Kevorkian died recently big hullaballoo about his infamous van that was supposed to be destroyed but appeared whole and was about to be auctioned they pulled the auction and it was supposed to be sold at some other auction. Don't know what happened to it. I met and knew him, and saw him about town I lived in the area of his hyjinks and I could have gotten into his world and for the long haul too- but I offered opinions he found too far from tolerating and we parted company.

Oddly enough and in the same exact area too! there was another fellow who looked just like Kevorkian and we lunched together and he took me home and I bought his Raleigh bicycle. A Lenton Sports with better lugwork than my other one. I have company archives, dies and drawings from a famous Detroit area automotive wheel company.

The two men were almost the same age and about exactly the same appearence wise. My friend Sara dubbed him Dr. K and he'd smile and shake his head No, I'm not him.....

As to the bicycle part question find yourself a copy of Glens complete bicycle maintence and better yet a shop copy of the sutherlands book.

Chris, it's been a strange life!
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           RE:MISC:   Shimano 333 F hub assembly posted by CHRIS on 9/15/2011 at 10:13:43 AM
THE SUTHERLANDS BOOK IS YOUR BEST BET ASK A SHOP TO SHOW YOU THE BOOK
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MISC:   British CCM? (Paging Warren...) posted by: Mark R. on 8/24/2011 at 9:56:36 AM
An old Eatons Glider was donated to our community bike shop. It's missing its front fender, but otherwise is all there and running fine. Since it says "Made in England" on the top tube I presumed it was like all other Gliders ad make by Raleigh for Eatons (iconic Canadian dept. store chain, now defunct). But a friend took a closer look and thinks it's a CCM, based on the serial number being on the seatpost collar, and then dated it to 1937 (suing the serial chart from my website that Warren had sent to me years ago. Now to me it makes no sense for it to be a CCM with the "Made in England" on it, as CCMs were all made in Canada. Can anyone shed any light on this?


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           RE:MISC:   British CCM? (Paging Warren...) posted by Mark R. on 8/24/2011 at 10:15:00 AM
oops, above linked to a wrong size photo...


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           RE:MISC:   British CCM? (Paging Warren...) posted by Keith Body on 8/24/2011 at 11:49:57 AM
Looks British from late 1950's to early 1960's.
32 x 40 spokes pure British.
Close up of the top head bearings would help, if raleigh 26 threads per inch in head and bottom bracket, but it doesn't look raleigh in the picture. Any makers names on the hubs? Presume coaster hub brake, any drilling in the fork crown for a brake? Possibly assembled in Canada?
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           RE:MISC:   British CCM? (Paging Warren...) posted by David on 8/24/2011 at 1:34:04 PM
The rear frame is quite different. It appears to be bolted together with rear-facing chain stay ends rather than dropouts. Rather like a DL-1 rear frame. Are the wheels 28" or 26"?
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           RE:RE:MISC:   British CCM? (Paging Warren...) posted by Mark R. on 8/24/2011 at 3:08:17 PM
The dropouts are indeed rear facing as on my '37 Redbird. Wheels are Canadian 28" (700C). If the bike has not been sold by the next time I'm at the shop I'll take photos of rear hub and other details.
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           RE:MISC:   British CCM? (Paging Warren...) posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/25/2011 at 3:00:34 AM
Either way... I like it. Particularly the provision in the loop frame for pump mounting.

Nice!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Eaton... I had a glider once.....
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           RE:RE:MISC:   British CCM? (Paging Warren...) posted by Chris on 8/25/2011 at 10:04:07 AM
and who made the luscious rear rack? Prestube minor? Looks like it. Canada Cycle and Motor (C.C.M) used a lot of British parts and inspiration.
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           RE:RE:RE:MISC:   British CCM? (Paging Warren...) posted by Mark R. on 8/26/2011 at 10:10:37 AM
Ah poo. The bike has been sold, after sitting for two weeks and me only taking a good look at the other day. I just presumed it was a regular Glider made by Raleigh, and didn't think more of it until my friend noticed the CCM-ish details. And yes, both the rack and pump loop were nice touches. But alas the bike is now gone...
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AGE / VALUE:   RARE OPORTUNITY CHROME RALEIGH DL1 ON E- BAY posted by: CHRIS on 8/23/2011 at 10:14:12 AM
THESE NEVER TURN UP FOR SALE! NEVER! YOU CAN WATCH E- BAY EVERY DAY AND NEVER SEE THESE OFFERED NOT THE 26 INCH WHEEL AND NEVER THE 28 INCH WHEEL RALEIGH'S IN ALL CHROME

NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO OWN THIS RALEIGH TOURIST D.L.1. IN ALL CHROME!

NO RELATION TO SELLER
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   RARE OPORTUNITY CHROME RALEIGH DL1 ON E- BAY/ The legend of the all chrome Raleig posted by Chris on 8/23/2011 at 4:30:33 PM
I'm sure some pressing need is behind this, because normally the owners of these chrome bikes don't let anything pry their hands off the handlebars of these bikes.

There is a pride with owning the chrome plated bikes a notch or two above owning a mint black raleigh Tourist d.l.1. or a mint Raleigh superbe or a sports. These went to company bigwigs, tribal leaders/ chiefs I am serious!

You paid a lot more for one of these and the customers who chased after these didn't care about the cost. Other people would get in the way of you trying to get one of these there was competition for them.

Now with e- bay well, we will see but when was the last time any of us saw one of these offered for sale. I am not the seller, I have no interest in it myself but it will be fun to see what it winds up at, given the history of these.

Before e- bay this particular bike was a horrible task to land, club over the head, get in the boat and carry back to shore.

many bicycles obtain a tag by their owners that reads not for sale, not to be shown, not even thought about it let alone not for sale this is one of that class of bicycle
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   RARE OPORTUNITY CHROME RALEIGH DL1 ON E- BAY posted by Owen on 8/24/2011 at 5:57:48 AM
A bit overpriced I'd say, compared to this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Ladies-Raleigh-Tourist-Bicycle-Mint-/260837412083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbb1f0cf3
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   RARE OPORTUNITY CHROME RALEIGH DL1 ON E- BAY posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/26/2011 at 5:21:28 PM
Agreed Owen. Relative to the Loop Frame machine, yeah... that price is up there.... yet really... how does one determine what the price... of the Holy Grail... IS?

;-)

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Chrome don't get ya Home!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   RARE OPORTUNITY CHROME RALEIGH DL1 ON E- BAY posted by Jeff Bikeguy on 9/2/2011 at 5:16:52 AM
This is the first one of these I've seen on ePay since about 2001. I think I'll keep mine...
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   RARE OPORTUNITY CHROME RALEIGH DL1 ON E- BAY posted by Russ on 9/3/2011 at 6:59:37 AM
a bit pricey and I don't see what the big deal is on this bicycle its nice looking but I can't imagine paying $500, I rather go after a professional
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   RARE OPORTUNITY CHROME RALEIGH DL1 ON E- BAY posted by chris on 9/7/2011 at 8:42:39 AM
i thought the pictures were poor quality
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AGE / VALUE:   Grants Green Draggon posted by: mike on 8/20/2011 at 5:20:32 PM
Hi I'm trying to find out the value of a bicycle I have it is a grants green draggon in very good shape all original all ether way down to the white letter tires any info would be great thanks
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Grants Green Draggon posted by Matthew on 8/21/2011 at 10:52:57 AM
Mike,

You need to post your message on a different discussion board, for Stingrays etc.

Take a look at:
http://oldroads.com/arch/MUS2007_5_259_30_04_AM.html

Matthew - latter day St. George
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AGE / VALUE:   a quicker gear shift can make a difference posted by: Chris on 8/19/2011 at 9:47:09 AM
I think it's time to change the derailer unit. it's too slow and vintage.
While I wait for the Huret Alvit to shift to a smaller cog, the pair of vicious, groweling, swiftly pursuing dogs get even closer to sinking their teeth into my legs.

Hurry up and shift, will ya!! I'm waiting for it to shift. I moved the lever and waited and finally it , slowly moves to a smaller cog. there is another pause and finally, when it's completed I get off the seat and haul and the dogs, slowly fall behind and after a minute more they give up the chase.

they could have kept on running after me. I go to mach two, but the problem is the street is ending and I have to decide to go left or right and that means to slow down but the dogs are beside me on both sides. Gives them the chance to bite lucky for me they gave up. Declared victory.

Well, the didn't give up. the dogs feel that they won! They ran me off, they own the street. It's their street and they are waiting for me the next time I go that way.

South side dogs don't want me "in their hood!!"
"Ah, brother Chris could not make it to tonights study, well open your book to chapter....."

today's modern bikes shift immediately and that can make a difference.
It would have been a real, bloody, painful mess. In China, they eat dog don't they?

mace. except the wind might blow it back in my face. I have to steer the bike, haul ass at mach two, fumble for the canister and aim it while flying the bike at top speed.

This one street has dogs everywhere too. One dog has a hole dug underneath his fence and gets out into the street after me. I'm thinking: "Oh, man, he's loose out in the street with me!!

Ah no, you can't do that. Ah no, we'll arrest you for that. no, no, sorry no. pepper spray, sticks, a whistle yes.

"The dog ate the cell phone officer!"
I'm laughing at the whistle, I'm told to buy a dog whistle

yeah shure!

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           Dogs posted by Chris on 8/19/2011 at 10:58:34 AM
Dogs kill. They pull kids off their tricycles and bicycles and they gang up and two or three of them maul people to death. They run off, have no collar on them anyways. People lie to avoid a ticket or charges. good luck catching the beast and everybody loves the pit bull!

Until one maims you for life!

The elderly, diasbled are all running about in power chairs. The power chairs are getting faster but I'll bet people are getting bit/ attacked in their power chairs but you never hear of it in the papers, do we?

I'm ok but it was a very close call. Another reason to hop up the Raleigh tourist D.L.1. with better/ upgraded gearing that will let you go faster on the bike.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   a quicker gear shift can make a difference posted by mark on 8/20/2011 at 8:52:06 AM
well i suppose you could go with one of the new IGH like the shimano 11 speed, if you're willing to be non-vintage....and have money
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   a quicker gear shift can make a difference posted by chris on 8/20/2011 at 10:08:42 AM
I'm not willing to allow the naughty dogs chew away at my legs, no.

will make the bike more modern don't want to but the dogs almost got me!
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   a quicker gear shift can make a difference posted by chris on 8/21/2011 at 8:41:46 AM
then again, those large wheels on the 28 inch raleigh tourist when you pedal faster the tourist call roll along at a pretty good clip out running the dogs on that bike as well.
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           RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   a quicker gear shift can make a difference posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/21/2011 at 9:35:20 PM
Agreed on the top-speed of the DL-1. Once you get it rolling.... Even with my rear sprcket being... what... 21 teeth... the "pickup" is not the best... but get that bayb rolling and with the rod brakes... you're really taking a risk....

Maybe a loud air horn might discourage them? Dunno... sounds problematic. As to the shifting speed of the derailleur.... I presume everything is all slickery and properly lubricated....

Downshifting is never a problem as it's all mechanical / cables doing the "pushing around"... upshifting however... is accomplished with the springs in the derailleur itself. Over time, it's only natural that they get tired.

What's the solution? Hmmmm..... I dunno... I suppose if you really wanted to get crazy... and knew of a place well-skilled and equipped, you could have them re-tempered?

Unfortunately, in this "throwaway" society... such places are very fast vanishing from the realm.

So.... maybe... if you hunted around and around... you may be able to find a replacement for the spring. Dunno... might be worth looking into for sure.

Meanwhile... yeah... dogs... scary on the bicycle... and at times even scarier on the motorcycle.

BTW... a real hazard riding here in the Pocono Mountains... Deer. They're EVERYWHERE... and usually the hear things approaching... but not always bicycles.

Particularly at night... I nearly T-boned one on the "Lite Sprite" one evening.... It really would have sucked OUT LOUD.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Man's best friends.... when properly restrained.
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           RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   a quicker gear shift can make a difference posted by Chris on 8/22/2011 at 8:36:30 AM
deer, moose, turtles, aligators, dogs, I'm sure cyclists have had problems with all of them thanks larry!
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           RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   a quicker gear shift can make a difference posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/26/2011 at 6:18:08 AM
They can be very troublesome... one of my colleagues here was blasting down a hill on his rolling cloud... probably pushing 30mph or better.... dog ran at him... and T-boned him.

He ended up hospitalized for 6 weeks with various and assorted fractures, condussions, etc.

So yeah.... it's part of the risk we take when riding.

Glad to hear you've thus far avoided any serious incicent!

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - I have a Canine Cruiser for my dog....
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AGE / VALUE:   phillips road bike? posted by: addison on 8/18/2011 at 3:26:13 PM
i got this phillips road bike with a "K" on the bottem braket and 0224141 on the left rear drop out i look on the hub and there is not date on the hub. i read on here that K series were stolen from fatory, and found 6 years later, is this one? i will post photo's if need
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   phillips road bike? posted by Chris on 8/18/2011 at 4:10:54 PM
we would love to see pictures of the bike! Phillips was huge! going back 100 years, made everything, shipped bikes and everything all over the planet would love to see the bike and hear more
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   phillips road bike? posted by Russ on 8/18/2011 at 6:13:03 PM
sounds interesting
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   phillips road bike? posted by addison on 8/18/2011 at 7:24:12 PM
Well a little bit more I can tell you is that the bage on the front is like no phillips bage that I seen yet its orange not red, also has simplex shifting and weinmann carltion leaver& U brakes I'm asumming the cables are all the orignal also it did have a leather seat that is now off it and is broken so I replaced it with a newer seat from the early 80's late 70's I think, the bike is a 10 speed, and the decels are painted on along with it saying nottingham? It was well kept indoors I belive, from they guy I got it from said that his family brought the bike to nova scotia in the early 70's from belgium. Then in the late 70's it was handed down to him and has been in his basement untill a month ago when I got it. It was complete expcept the front wheel, I will post detail photos in the next day
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   phillips road bike? posted by Matthew on 8/19/2011 at 6:59:43 AM
Hi Addison,

I think you may be in a muddle. Sturmey Archer K-series rear hubs were three speed internal geared hubs (made approximately from 1931 to 1938) and your bike does not seem have one of these. The K on the Bottom bracket is either a stamp mark of a serial number or post code and it may be a casting number which would not be relevant to dating the bike. I think what you have is probably a badge engineered Raleigh clone from the 1970s, but a photo or two would help to identify the cycle.

Matthew - all geared up.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   phillips road bike? posted by addison on 8/20/2011 at 9:44:27 AM
http://s798.photobucket.com/albums/yy263/3aw/
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   phillips road bike? posted by addison on 8/20/2011 at 11:50:47 AM
photo's


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   phillips road bike? posted by Keith Body on 8/20/2011 at 11:53:21 AM
What I can see is a basic raleigh, perhaps badged Phillips for some export market or retailer. I can't see anyone in Belgium buying these. The frame looks similar to the Sun, BSA and Carlton made in Nottingham, early 1970's.
It does look better than some of the 1950's Phillips sports bikes.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   phillips road bike? posted by addison on 8/21/2011 at 6:23:44 AM
So what's it worth? Anything?
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   phillips road bike? posted by Chris on 8/21/2011 at 9:02:24 AM
Well, In my opinion. It's a Raleigh made Phillips after the 1960 merger when the British Cycle corporation containing Phillips was merged with Raleigh Industries. The Phillips bicycle you have is not 531 frame tubing, is not a lightweight frame, does not have the better componet parts, as you can see. It is intended for the teenager market.

Better wheels, better cranks, better gears can be added it will make a difference but it is limited by the common frame tubing or "gas pipe tubing" that it is made with.

Value? I'm uncomfortable to say but, perhaps 50.00 to 75.00? Somebody would be glad to have it, put upright bars on it and ride it to work and back for the next 20 years put a basket on it and carry stuff.

Collectors will have no interest in this. I wish you better luck next time.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   phillips road bike? posted by addison on 8/21/2011 at 8:36:29 PM
I'm just wondering, if anyone knows were I can get photos of the same bike, from that time it came out, and were I could find the right spokes to re lace the wheel. I must say this bike run really good, its the best ride out of my 5 differnt sport bikes :)
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AGE / VALUE:   Tony Hadlands new Raleigh book!! posted by: Chris on 8/16/2011 at 5:19:58 PM
Looking forward to this book!
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AGE / VALUE:   1969 Raleigh Twenty posted by: Russ on 8/16/2011 at 4:38:10 PM
What is the value of a mint condition 1969 Raleigh Twenty
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   1969 Raleigh Twenty posted by chris on 8/16/2011 at 5:18:44 PM
300 to 400 hundred or more post picture please
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   1969 Raleigh Twenty posted by Chris on 8/16/2011 at 5:23:36 PM
The Raleigh Twenty has e- bay mojo!

they are popular because Sheldon Brown did a lot of good work to bring it back to life

sheldonbrown.com
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   1969 Raleigh Twenty posted by Russ on 8/17/2011 at 1:34:51 PM
here a are some pics from my account at pedal room
http://www.pedalroom.com/bike/1969-raleigh-twenty-2943
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   1969 Raleigh Twenty posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/18/2011 at 10:06:04 AM
Immaculate. Very nice find and wonderfully... "buffed out"! Thanks for posting those pictures.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - New... they should be that clean
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   1969 Raleigh Twenty posted by Matthew on 8/18/2011 at 12:54:20 PM
My goodness, seldom does one come across and example of the art of cycle manufacture in such well preserved condition. It would appear that a little house dust has gone a long way to preserve this time machine. This example of a Twenty is, without doubt, a worthy addition to any stable. In the hands of Bonhams or another reputable auction house (and not on eBag) it would realise a tidy sum for the fortunate owner. Bravo!

Matthew - marvelling
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   1969 Raleigh Twenty posted by Russ on 8/18/2011 at 1:06:26 PM
Yeah I plan on holding on to this one it will look great alongside me and my fathers collection of vintage roadies. Thanks
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   1969 Raleigh Twenty posted by Eric on 10/31/2011 at 11:07:15 AM
Hello all,

I recently found a Twenty in my grandmothers basement and it looks like it is in great shape. No rust no dings, just a bunch of dust. I am not sure if it has the original 451 mm by 20 inch tires or 406mm. Can anyone tell me a good place to start when trying to sell this bike and roughly what they are going for. I have seen a few on e-bay listed for $300 but it seems like $100-$150 is what most people will pay for one in as good of shape as I have. Any help would be appreciated.
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AGE / VALUE:   Wey Navigation cycle ride posted by: Stephen Hogben on 8/13/2011 at 2:19:59 PM
Matthew so pleased to hear again from you again,sorry have not been in touch for ages rode down the Wey Navigational Canal the other day not far as I thought what a awful track went t o godalming and back not a good ride.33 miles.


thougt , but what a rotten path!16 and a half miles over cows fields
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Wey Navigation cycle ride posted by Matthew on 8/14/2011 at 12:33:32 PM
Hi Stephen,

Likewise. I am planning next years big ride. Gt Yarmouth to Poole cross country, possibly passing near you?

September 2012 - before I am 50.

Matthew - calm down dear; it's only bike ride!
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Wey Navigation cycle ride posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/16/2011 at 3:29:42 AM
Actually... same here Matthew. Good seeing you ... er... your postings back here on the board. Been a while. Personally, I've been far too busy to ride much of anything anywhere.... and that's becoming disturbing to me so methinks it's time to truly shift prioriteis.

All that being put forth, here's hoping all is well with you and life is treating you fairly.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - where the heck are these guys riding anyhow????? ;-)
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AGE / VALUE:   The cheapest, best, smartest fixed cup bottom bracket tool anybody will ever need posted by: Christopher on 8/10/2011 at 5:57:00 PM
After over 30 years of chasing the Raleigh bike I am delighted to announce I have solved the bottom bracket fixed cup problem. The cheapest, smartest, and most effective solution.

Take a dremel tool and grind off the flats of the Raleigh bicycle fixed cup. Grind it smooth, clean. This tool will remove the cup anyways. Damaged or missing it does not matter.

Removes the fixed and adjustable cup and installs these cups as well. Millions of bicycles. Raleigh, Humber, Rudge, Phillips, Hercules, Dunelts, Robin Hoods, Raleigh Choppers, Royal Scots, actually, all of the British 3 speed bicycles.

pre merger (1960) pre Raleigh take over B.S.A, Hercules, Phillips, all of the Brampton bottom brackets, T.D.C. T.D. Cross and Sons.

Post merger, after 1960 it all became under the Raleigh unbrella and so it's all the Raleigh fixed cup. Everything became 2'nd class, B- grade, Raleigh's and so, all these bikes have the Raleigh fixed cup they have the Raleigh bottom bracket.

Believe it or not. I have figured out the one universal bottom bracket fixed cup for all the above bicycles.

After a long and complete study of every original shop tool, every Raleigh Industries cycle repair tool and all else. This is the cheapest, smartest, most effective and reliable tool ever offered for sale.

The tool is $15.00 plus shipping. I am taking orders. A detailed instruction sheet is provided with every tool.


e- mail me! clarencekokkinis@aim.com
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   The cheapest, best, smartest fixed cup bottom bracket tool anybody will ever nee posted by Dale on 8/26/2011 at 9:39:19 AM
I was going to be a smart a** and give away the secret, but then I realized that, if it's the same one I use, that it had to be modified from the original bits. So, if you've bevelled where needed and made wrench flats where needed, I'd say that's a reasonable price for a tool that works very well.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The cheapest, best, smartest fixed cup bottom bracket tool anybody will ever posted by chris on 8/28/2011 at 10:15:06 AM
no, you don't understand it at all . it is better than that!

This is really something! my cost is so low I can do it for 15.00 plus shipping

pictures when I find the time!
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh path Racer posted by: Clint on 8/6/2011 at 10:08:40 AM
Just finished my latest project. 1954 Raleigh Superbe Tourist converted into a 1930's style English Path Racer.


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh path Racer posted by Clint on 8/6/2011 at 3:45:10 PM
Another pic


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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh path Racer posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/7/2011 at 4:29:03 AM
That's downright impressive!!! I've an "Abley" that I've done similar too... and yet still a work in progress. Some good ideas and inspirations.

The pic link didn't work directly but I got to the album. Very glad you put the hisorical refernces to the cork in there as initially I found the image a bit disturbing... ;-)

That gooseneck... had me baffled until I saw the closeup and determined that is what it actually was... at first I thought it was a gunsight or some such thing.

Amazing work!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - drooling towel recommended.....


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh path Racer posted by JDuck on 8/7/2011 at 7:26:20 AM
So beautiful! Brakes?
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh path Racer posted by Clint on 8/7/2011 at 12:18:24 PM
Hey Larry, the Gooseneck is called a Major Taylor Outrigger from the 1930's. I had it rechromed. It does look like a Gunsight.
JDuck, the rear hub is a Sturmey S2C hub laced to 28 1/2 Dunlop rims. The S2C is a two speed kickshift hub with a built in coaster Brake. It's the only brake on the bike
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh path Racer posted by Matthew on 8/9/2011 at 10:53:52 AM
What a pleasant evocation of yesteryear's world. We do not live at such a raffish pace nowadays, instead we blunder about with seldom a touch of such class.

Bravo Clint!

Matthew - being eloquent.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh path Racer posted by Clint on 8/10/2011 at 10:48:50 AM
Thank you Matthew, that was quite eloquent.
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AGE / VALUE:   bye bye grease!! Permatex posted by: Chris on 8/4/2011 at 5:06:41 PM
Anti sieze, aluminum powder, mixed with oil PERMATEX COMPANY AUTO PARTS STORE!! in bearings in the headset, wheel bearings in the front not in the sturmey archer hubs where it'll mess it up but in the bottom bracket headset, front wheel,

NO MORE GREASE! THE OVERHAUL THAT'LL LAST A LONG TIME!!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   bye bye grease!! Permatex posted by chris on 8/4/2011 at 5:14:45 PM
sick of overhauling again and again! grease drys out, oil evaporates I won't use the park tool grease! ugh! mixed with just a bit of oil this is on old steel bikes keep it out of the seat post area. add oil afterwards to make it extra funky!!
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   bye bye grease!! Permatex posted by chris on 8/4/2011 at 5:22:46 PM
For all you out there who's bike last saw grease when old Lyndon Johnson was in office this is for you!!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   bye bye grease!! Permatex posted by David on 8/5/2011 at 3:48:55 AM
Chris, WTF are you ranting about? Are you suggesting we mix up a paste of anti-seize compound, aluminum powder, oil, and gasket cement and use that in place of grease to lubricate bearings? !@$#*&!!
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   bye bye grease!! Permatex posted by Chris on 8/5/2011 at 9:32:04 AM
No, I'm saying that you buy a jar of Permatex brand "anti sieze" in your local auto parts store.
and if you want to, mix it with a bit of oil (actually, you don't even need the oil) and brush it in the wheel bearings of the front wheel and headset. it works and I have been using it for some time now and it's awesome. the anti sieze is aluminum powder no gasket cement! this is not gasket cement however this company is known for, and does make gasket cement so I understand why you'd think this. this is a silver aluminum paste that prevents siezing up its a smooth, sticky, long lasting paste that acts as a grease in the headset and in plain ball bearings not to be used in the sturmey archer hub where it could wind up working into the pawls and mess those up.

at the gas station, years ago I discovered this stuff

we used to take headlamp metal frame bezels apart to replace headlamps in cars to replace the square glass headlights and when removing the frame we would dip the screws in a daub of silver anti sieze to prevent rust in the screw and in the screws frame so the next time in a year when the customer would come back for another headlamp due to a stone chip or if it was burned out the next time the screw would come out and not be rusted so I decided to try it as a lubricant for wheel bearings in bicycles and It works.

it didn't work on chains as the derailer chain slid too much and it got on the pants legs

try it if you like otherwise ignore this post
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   bye bye grease!! Permatex posted by chris on 8/29/2011 at 9:34:55 AM
the grerase works it's way out and evaporates and the slivery permatex does not and I like the way my handlebars and front hubs turn
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   bye bye grease!! Permatex posted by Patrick on 8/30/2011 at 4:52:19 AM
Well,I wont say that you're totally wrong here,maybe a/s compound does have certain properties that are lesser known and it's fine for bikes,but lets not forget a/s compound is just that,it's not made to overcome friction. Mixing it with oil might just contaminate it. I've been using Park and Phils grease for years and have yet to relube anything because of breakdown,or any reason due to poor lubrication. I've serviced many hubs with many miles on them and the grease is still like new.The service was just busy work for the winter.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   bye bye grease!! Permatex because grease goes bye bye posted by chris on 9/2/2011 at 8:23:13 AM
it's difficult to venture outside of the conventional and what has been done and what is recommended. I find the grease melting and leaking out and evaporating turning black . I also refuse to use caged bearings as the cages break and bend.

I love the silver permatex it stays in place and keeps the bearings lubricated very well everything turns smoothly. the grease hardens up, freezes up and you need to degump but thats if it's 20 years old.

To each his or her own!
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AGE / VALUE:   brake thru in brakes!! OMG!!!! posted by: Chris on 8/4/2011 at 4:46:07 PM
FREED FROM RALEIGH ROD BRAKE PADS! IT WORKS!!
modern brake pads on the raleigh tourist d.l.1. taking things apart and asking "why not?" and it fits!! drill a slightly hole use a rat tail file and hook it up!

MAFAC BRAKES THAT STYLE PADS, SHIMANO COPIES, THE BITS AND PIECES AND HOLD THE ROD BRAKE PARTS AND WONDER A WAY INTO SOMETHING AWESOME!

RED RUBBER, MODERN PADS CHEAPER , MORE EASILY AVAILABLE AND I CAN SKIP MERRILY DOWN THE ISLE AND USE ANY RUBBER COMPOUND AND COLOR PADS I WISH!!
woo hoo!!
some rim damage may occur, the chrome rims didn't use these modern rubber but real rubber

yow!!@! modern rubber pads and metal holders kool stop, shimano!! mafac racer brakes and dreaming!!

pictures when I get time!!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   brake thru in brakes!! OMG!!!! posted by Chris on 8/4/2011 at 5:21:36 PM
This is for whacked rims, knackered, worn out, not pristine chrome, show or too nice to get all abrasive with! those ya gotta stick with the white chromed leather and real fibrax rubber Raleigh pads origianals. do be careful please so the brakes don't go thru the spokes stopping you in a way we don't want to happen!

no problem!!
friction and contention! It's a good thing! as long as I stop sooner than with the originals.


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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   brake thru in brakes!! OMG!!!! posted by chris on 8/5/2011 at 9:40:06 AM
you see the mafac racer brake has a special part that enables the brake pad with it's longh unthreaded rod to turn so I thought why nort turn it straight up and fix it permanently so when you pull the raleigh rod brake stirrup straight up I can use modern, mafac type pads on my Raleigh rod brake tourist d.l.1. only not original mafac brake pads tyhat are too hard and too old but use a kool stop pad you see all the new pads fit like sassy gloves in the mafac brake holders so why not mix some mafac parts onto the raleigh rod brake stirrups it works!!

i have parts to have photographed and I'll try to get pix loaded up here
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   brake thru in brakes!! OMG!!!! posted by Dale on 8/26/2011 at 9:43:24 AM
I hate to sound like a snob, but could you put a little effort into writing simple declarative sentences? You usually offer valuable content, but it's just painful to decipher it. Thanks.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   brake thru in brakes!! OMG!!!! posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/26/2011 at 5:19:59 PM
Chris get's very excited and passionate at times for sure. I can relate... one can get so excited about a new "discovery" that ya kinda get carried off and throw such conventions to the wind.


That being what it is, I was just thinking, do we have a "How To" section in this forum? A place where we could post up our documents pursuant to tricks and tips such as these. Simple, illustrated (pics), PDF's that could be downloaded and printed out...

Like a wee online "manual" of sorts.

Just a thought. Meanwhile, Chris, I very much look forward to a posting of pic relating to this discovery you're so fired up about. Anything that would help in the scrubbing off speed on a DL-1 has got to be awesome.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - STOP!!!!! :-O



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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   brake thru in brakes!! OMG!!!! posted by chris on 8/28/2011 at 10:16:54 AM
simple declaritive sentences. ok will do. really.

I have less time than ever now will get pics loaded and do a proper write up

thanks dale!
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