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AGE / VALUE:Raleigh built Hercules posted by: Tommy on 5/20/2009 at 11:40:31 AM
Hello, I posted this in the muscle bike section but this section may be more helpful. I recently acquired an old Hercules 20" bike. It looks very similar to a Raleigh Rodeo but mine is a single speed. I am trying to find the model name/age of this bike for I do not care about value. The bike has a Resilion "B" hub (single speed coaster rear) which are very similar to SA hubs. It seems the crank assy. is also Resilion. The rims are Dunlop 20x1 3/8. Pedals are marked Brampton. The serial # is A6592 which seems odd to me. It is marked that it is English made at the Nottingham factory. I know it is post 1960 of course and probably a 66,67 or 68 but I am hoping that someone may be able to nail down a date for me and a model name. I am attaching a link to the ebay auction. Any hints are where I may find parts for this bike are also appreciated.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220408275806&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&viewitem=


Thanks in advance.

Tommy
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh built Hercules posted by Tommy on 5/20/2009 at 12:00:11 PM
CORRECTION! Serial # A5692
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh built Hercules posted by Steve on 5/20/2009 at 2:32:38 PM
Well, I don't recall one of these from my childhood, my first thoughts were that it shows early signs of "Chopperism" !

The only regular Hercules connection I can see, is the chrome fork crown attachment.

I don't think "A" fits in with Raleighs mid sixties dating pattern and Hercules serial numbers (like many others) are for the time being, still a mystery. I'm lost for words.

Steve
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh built Hercules posted by Steve on 5/20/2009 at 2:42:10 PM
Sorry, I tell a lie.

"A" followed by four digits could possibly be 1966.

Steve - getting distracted
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh built Hercules posted by Tommy on 5/20/2009 at 3:49:26 PM
Thank you Steve. I think you may be right. I know it is before 1970 when the chopper was released. A 1967 and 68 Raleigh Rodeo are identical to this bike other than badging and a couple trim parts. My big task for this bike is going to be finding decals and new Dunlop rims to relace to the hubs. I was able to remove the rust from my rims but in doing so I found that the metal is so thin they are useless. I WILL restore this beauty one day. I have found some Raleigh rims from a 1970 I hope I win on Ebay but they are not the correct ones. Thanks again for the response. I am hopeful I can get more info in time. For now I will call it a 66-68 Unknown Hercules.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh built Hercules posted by Steve on 5/20/2009 at 4:11:35 PM
Tommy, I do have a nice pair of 20 x 1 3/8 rims here...but they're attached to a mothballed 1950/60's Raleigh Explorer (that will also require decals).
Thr rims do appear from time to time, and there is a chap in the North of England (I think) who specialises in decals.
I can't find his details at the moment though, maybe someone would like to post them...if they have them at hand.
Steve - good luck
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh built Hercules posted by Tommy on 5/20/2009 at 4:51:59 PM
They are Dunlop rims? If you decide you want to sell them please let me know. Thanks for the responses. Also let me know if you remember the info on the decal guy.

Tommy
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh built Hercules posted by Tommy on 5/20/2009 at 7:37:56 PM
H Lloyd cycles sells the waterslide decals for British bicycles. Is that the one you were thinking of??
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh built Hercules posted by Steve on 5/21/2009 at 2:13:59 AM
Yes, H Lloyd that's the name...Penrith I think.

Steve
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh built Hercules posted by Matthew on 5/22/2009 at 10:26:31 AM
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/nick_at_lloyds/

Is this what you are looking for?

Matthew - I know you know.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh built Hercules posted by Steve on 5/22/2009 at 2:57:01 PM
Yes...glad to see Gundle listed !

Thanks Matthew

Steve
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WANTED:Raleigh front hub axle posted by: mark on 5/18/2009 at 10:41:49 PM
My gold Raleigh Sports also seems to have a bent front axle--from shipping?:( --is this a separate Raleigh 26 tpi threaded piece or can I use other options? thanks for any input.
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RE:WANTED:Raleigh front hub axle posted by Matthew on 5/19/2009 at 11:02:39 AM
Hi Mark,

In what way bent, from which direction? This is most unusual.

Matthew - getting the angle on it.
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RE:WANTED:Raleigh front hub axle posted by Tommy on 5/20/2009 at 12:07:15 PM
Yes that is a Raleigh, probably a Sturmey Archer axle. I just bought an NOS one on Ebay UK for $9 shipped to the US. You need to find the correct SA axle to fix it correctly though you may be able to use loose ball bearings and run a 3/8 American or 10mm Japanese axle and change all the hardware over from that axle if you are not worried about being factory correct. Front wheels are easy to cobble other axles in to. Good luck.

Tommy
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RE:WANTED:Raleigh front hub axle posted by Tommy on 5/20/2009 at 3:40:29 PM
Link to Ebay auction for the SA axle. You may have to measure yours to be sure this is the right length but it should be. Most are the same. Good luck.

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Raleigh-front-wheel-axle-new-Chopper-Grifter-Vintage_W0QQitemZ250412535214QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Collectables_Bicycle_RL?hash=item250412535214&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1294|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50
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AGE / VALUE:From the opinion column posted by: Chris on 5/18/2009 at 5:06:30 PM
An article worth reading, the author's name, I have withheld.
(From the San Antonio Express news readers column, today's)

"Bikes hogging roads"
"Now is the time to prevent a small but active and vocal group from appropriating out roads for their personal recreational activity. They argue that with the high cost of gasoline and the greenhouse effect, bicycle riding is the way to the eco future.

Senate Bill 488, pushed by a bike riding senator for his benefit and other riders like him, manadates that large commercial vehicles remain six feet from a bicycle. That pretty much means the bike rider owns the lane.

Other vehicles must remain three feet from a bicycle, but there is no stipulation as to where the bicycle must be.
You too,will probably need to cede the lane to the bicycle. There is no requirement that bicycle riders be licensed or that they carry liability insurance like all other vehicles using our roads.
I'm willing to share the road with bikes, but I'm not willing to give them the road. Tell your representatives in the Texas Legislature to vote "no" on SB 488."

(end)

I choked on my sauasage and egg breakfast taco spilled the coffee and I though of all the folks who die on our roads because of idiots like this guy. We recently had a cyclist here in San Antonio, who was killed while riding his bike he was dragged for blocks and left in the street to die and they took off, leving him there. There were signs up on the telephone poles. Tell the representatives in the Texas Legislature to vote yes on SB 488
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RE:AGE / VALUE:From the opinion column posted by David on 5/18/2009 at 8:06:10 PM
I suspect that, even in Texas, the only vehicles required to carry liability insurance and the only ones requiring licensing for their operators are the ones that can do some serious damage, i.e. MOTOR vehicles. It's too bad that an emotional fitness test isn't required, too.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:From the opinion column posted by Matthew on 5/19/2009 at 11:04:40 AM
We lost the fight in Norwich, Norfolk, UK to keep lorries out of the bus / cycle lane on Newmarket Road.

Matthew - don't breathe in.
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:From the opinion column posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/19/2009 at 1:14:35 PM
Not for nothing but there are times when folks on bicycles annoy me to no end when I'm in the car. Three or four of them riding abreast across the road which basically forces me to have to break the law to get around them. That or ride behind them until what? I get to a PASSING ZONE????

To me that's a form of sanctimonious passive / agressive behaviour. C'mon now.. .let's get real. Sharing the road means SHARING it. Absolutely, I can identify with the hazards of riding a road bike... especially on the county roads I ride... no shoulders.... 6" "cliff" from the pavement to the sandy roadside. It's downright unsettling when a car passes... I try to give them as much room as possible. Heck... there's even times when I'll dismount and get OFF the road. Why? Because I'm one hell of a lot more vulnerable aboard a bicycle than they are in the car.

Must we legislate EVERYTHING? How about simple, common COURTESY?????

To be honest, I'm sure on both sides of the issue it's an abject minority that makes a bad name for the balance of the folks. Unfortunately that's life I suppose. I can only really be responsible for my own actions and if I screw up on the bicycle and get myself mashed, I will take responsibility.

Eegad.... I'm on a RANT here.... Enough... let's all just RIDE SAFELY and DRIVE COURTEOUSLY for cryin' out loud.

Now that's done... anyone have a use for a relatively warm SOAP BOX????

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Rail Trails.... THAT's the ticket!


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RE:AGE / VALUE:From the opinion column posted by Steve on 5/19/2009 at 4:20:16 PM
In London we have cyclists continuously being a nuisance i.e. proceeding through red stop lights, riding down one-way streets against the traffic flow, riding on the wrong side of the road etc etc, some of these riders (not all) wear safety helmets and high visibility clothing, hence you would expect a degree of common sense...not so.

I'm by no means an angel, I have ridden on the pavement (and dismounted when appropriate) with my children because it was just to dangerous on the road.

What really gets to me are the radio programmes condemning cyclists in London for being ruthless (and stupid). Sadly as a driver in London I see it all the time. so it's difficult to argue against.

The majority spoil it for the minority (of law abiding cyclists).

I could go on and on and on about this, but Larry has just about summed it up.

Steve - bedtime
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RE:AGE / VALUE:From the opinion column posted by JDuck on 5/20/2009 at 7:35:54 AM
Like Larry, I also drive on the same roads that I bike. I have seen plenty of outrageous behavior from both sides. I live on roads popular with the spandex crowd from the city. Six abreast on a hill on a curve is not unusual. Death wish? I don't know. I think we all have to use common sense. There is lots of room for us all!
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RE:AGE / VALUE:From the opinion column posted by Dewane on 5/20/2009 at 12:52:22 PM
I turned left across a six lane rode on one side, all the way across, and to a four lane road, this morning on the way to work, against a red light. It was safe, maybe safer than joining the long queue of cars lining up to turn left legally.

At the same time, I was on a group ride and this guy on e bent (not that there's anything wrong with that!) would not stay in the bike lane. If I was driving, it would annoy me. There are either very clueless or very sanctimonious cyclists out there, and both are a hazard and a nuisance. But, they aren't killing anybody with their antics.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Dumb chaincase question posted by: Jeff Bikeguy on 5/17/2009 at 6:28:27 AM
Are the chaincases for a 26" wheel bike and a 28" wheel bike the same size?
I have an NOS Raleigh chaincase here and would like to put it on a DL-1 but before I rip it out of the paper wrapper I'd like to know if it might fit.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Dumb chaincase question posted by chris on 5/17/2009 at 9:45:33 AM
they are two different sizes. there was no universal chaincase
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Dumb chaincase question posted by Steve on 5/18/2009 at 2:36:36 AM
Certainly not a dumb question, I got caught out on thinking that a 26" wheel bike would naturally have the same length chainstay as any other 26" wheeled bike from the same manufacturer and roughly the same era (I think it might have been Hercules)...Keith, please refrain from quality control comments concerning this stalwart manufacturer (or any other), even though I know that you're probably right !

Anyhow, I was only swapping the chain from one bike to the other (same chainwheel and sprocket sizes), went to link chain back together...to fresh air (and head scratching) !

I can't remember the exact measurement of chainstay lengths, but it was something like a 1/2" to 1" difference between them, and it doesn't matter how strong or frustrated you are, I doubt you will ever be able to stretch a chain that far (not unless you want it so rigid that nothing will ever rotate in the normal manner again).

Out of curiosity (and for your knowledge), I've just measured the enclosed chainguards off a 1955 Raleigh 26" and a 1934 Raleigh 28" Roadster.

26" guard length = 26 3/8"

28" guard length = 27 7/8"

I've just measured them casually as they're suspended on butchers carcus hooks from the roof girders in my unlit, windy (health & safety hazard) garage, with a wobbly imperial tape measure (no micrometers here), so might be a "sixteenth" or two out.

Hope that helps.

Steve
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Dumb chaincase question posted by Keith Body on 5/18/2009 at 2:18:15 PM
Hi Steve, Chaincases were never popular in my household. Since 1949 all my cycle variable gears have been direct drive, not a sign of epicyclics. All open to the rain, grit and rust. (I also used to repair SA hubs full of wet greasy rust) I could do a 10 second wheel change with mine.
Just realised, I have a Yamaha battery and electric assisted roadster type with a (whispers) Shimano 4 speed hub. No chaincase.
Keith.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Dumb chaincase question posted by Steve on 5/18/2009 at 2:52:16 PM
Keith, I had the utmost respect for your vast (but sometimes cruel) knowledge, but now you're really starting to scare me.

Yamaha, battery, electric !

Have you gone completely mad, I haven't got a clue what you're talking about, you may as well be ranting on about the molecular structure of a Fibrax block, maybe you've had a glass of sherry too many, and are getting things a little confused with your organ.

It takes me more than 10 seconds to think about a wheel change, never mind perform one !

Steve - Wurlitzers R Us !
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Dumb chaincase question posted by mark on 5/18/2009 at 4:56:21 PM
And speaking of full chaincases (mine is a 1960 Phillips manhattan)
how have you all restored them--mine has 3 pieces --but can you open up the big piece safely so as to deal with surface rust, and/or possibly repaint on inside? primer?
thanks Mark
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RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Dumb chaincase question posted by Chris on 5/18/2009 at 5:40:35 PM
The chaincase keeps my pants cuffs out of the chain, it keeps the chain clean, the chain lasts forever unlike derailer chain, it is always lubricated and the bikes look better, more magical with enclosed chaincases.

We love epicilic gears and enclosed chaincases here, Keith.

If I'm going to get run over in Texas I want to go out in style enclosed chaincase and all!!
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Dumb chaincase question posted by Steve on 5/19/2009 at 2:21:39 AM
Mark, I admire your dedication and thoroughness in wanting to paint the inside of a chaincase...and Chris even more so for wanting to go out in a chaincase !

Nevertheless, the only thing that really bothers me with an enclosed chaincase (apart from the time consuming and fiddling about element), is a "creased dent" smack bang in the middle where it's difficult to get access to press it back out without making a complete "balls up" !

I suppose you could drill a small hole through from the outside, pull the dent out and then use filler and smooth it all out before repainting...maybe that method is more for the automotive game though.

Although I'm no expert, I did recently repair a standard 1970's "creased dented" half mudguard (hockey stick type), with shaped hammers and bits of wood.

Although I've never considered it, I don't think I would want to split "the big piece" in half, not unless I had a real expert standing at my side.

Steve


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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Dumb chaincase question posted by Matthew on 5/19/2009 at 11:12:18 AM
Hi Mark,

surely you mean 4 pieces?

Matthew - details, details.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Dumb chaincase question posted by Kiri on 5/27/2009 at 4:46:47 PM
I'm glad I ran across this discussion! I'm afraid I am almost a total newbie to this bicycle restoring lark, but I have wanted a 1950s Raleigh or Triumph since I first started being interested in bikes, and I finally was given (given!!!) a 1953 Raleigh Ladies Sports. It is BEAUTIFUL but it is also a total heap of rust and muck as it has spent the last god knows how many years propped up against the back of someone's barn... I am gradually making my way through fixing it up to make it a usable bike (and with time and money hopefully a really attractive bike), but the one real problem I've hit upon is I have no idea about enclosed chaincases. I unscrewed the little bolt in the top, just to see that it is clogged with some manner of filth. The pedals/chain/wheels all work fine, but I am concerned that a bit of use might dislodge something vile and ruin everything, so does anyone know of a site that would take me through it step by step (sort of an "idiots guide")? I would be ever so grateful!


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FOR SALE:Shimano Red Band Wheel Set EA3 26x1 3/8 posted by: sciencemonster on 5/16/2009 at 8:48:28 PM
Shimano Red Band laced to CR 18 Sun rim with matching grip shifter and front wheel. COnvert you 3 speed to 8Speeds! No more walking upthose hills!

I'd prefer to sell it in person to someone in the SF Bay Area, but I suppose I could mail it.

$300? I spent over $500 putting them together. Email me if interested. mark at sciencemonster.net.
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WANTED:   app 90mm o.l.d. front hub posted by: John on 5/16/2009 at 7:28:47 PM
Hi. I've been searching for a while with no luck. Anyone know a source for a new 87-90 mm spacing front hub? I'd like to build new alloy rim wheels for my Austrian built(Steyr?) J.C.Higgins 3 speed, but the original Styria 87mm front hub is not in very good shape. I'd rather not spread the fork if it can be avoided. Thanks
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RE:WANTED:   app 90mm o.l.d. front hub posted by Warren on 5/17/2009 at 6:01:35 AM
Another high quality and maybe appropriate front hub would be a German made Union. One piece steel and very good quality. They're about 92 mm which is not a stretch for your forks.
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RE:WANTED:   app 90mm o.l.d. front hub posted by John on 5/18/2009 at 2:43:31 PM
Thanks Warren. The Union hub sounds good. Is it something I can find new someplace, or would it be an old stock Ebay find? I've seen a couple Union hubs there, some described as "tandem hub" but no mention of dimensions.
John
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RE:RE:WANTED:   app 90mm o.l.d. front hub posted by Warren on 5/19/2009 at 11:22:04 AM
Ebay...set up a search for Union hub and before too long, it should appear.
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AGE / VALUE:Hercules, Royal Prince, Birmingham posted by: Dave on 5/16/2009 at 1:41:37 PM
I have a Hercules, Royal Prince from Birmingham England, the serial number is on the rear left dropout and is 5163TS, any idea on when it was made? There are no mud guards or chain guard,,,any info would be great.
Thanks
Dave
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Hercules, Royal Prince, Birmingham posted by Steve on 5/16/2009 at 4:35:24 PM
Dave, try sending a good quality clear photo, we can probably then work out if it's an original Birmingham Hercules or a Raleigh Herc.

My Hercules bikes all (bar one) have the two letters preceeding the number (1930's to 1950's models), the only bike that has the letters following the number is a Tradebike/Cycle Truck.

Strangely, mudguards and chainguards can be a useful aid to ageing a bike.

Can't say that I've come across a Royal Prince, I've seen a Balmoral...most of the bikes I acquire have very little paint on them, never mind names !

Steve

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RE:AGE / VALUE:Hercules, Royal Prince, Birmingham posted by Kevin on 5/16/2009 at 5:38:24 PM
Steve ... That's called patina!
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Hercules, Royal Prince, Birmingham posted by Steve on 5/17/2009 at 12:38:11 AM
You're spot on Kevin, but did you also know that it was a broad shallow dish used in ancient Rome !

Steve
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Hercules, Royal Prince, Birmingham posted by Kevin on 5/17/2009 at 4:14:51 AM
No, I did not know that, Steve, but it makes sense -- at church, the cup is the chalice, and the communion plate is the paten. Isn't it interesting that we use a 3,000-year-old Latin term to describe our crusty trade bikes? Language is so fascinating ...
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Hercules, Royal Prince, Birmingham posted by Steve on 5/17/2009 at 6:16:03 AM
See Dave, now look what you've done.

I can only guarantee you that it wasn't made 3000 years ago !
I once had an Atlantean (which is now in a musuem), I never thought that one day I would end up with a fleet of ancient Herculai in its place !

Greek, Latin etc...fascinating now, but I hated it when I was at school.

Steve - Royal Prince hmmmm...
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Hercules, Royal Prince, Birmingham posted by Stephen Hogben on 5/17/2009 at 1:28:58 PM
This will probably not be much help,but my old Hercules ladies Popular bike(The most comfortable out of my collection of 7 and now done 350 miles on it)has the hand painted white and red back mudguard on it was also made in Birmingham.The old boys down the club assure me that due to the rear mudguard paint(a contentious subject I know,that it was ridden in WW11,but they lived through it so they might have a clue)Anyway the frame number is 43858 N.Hope it helps!
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Hercules, Royal Prince, Birmingham posted by Matt Burns on 9/10/2009 at 3:08:26 PM
I found a chainguard for a HerculesRoyal Prince several years ago. It is black in color with gold striping and gold colored (waterslide??) decals. If this can help with anyone's restoration (or collection) Please let me know via e-mail. I'd rather it be appreciated rather than stuck in the attic.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Stuck bearing ! posted by: Steve on 5/16/2009 at 9:58:26 AM
Has this ever happened to anyone else ?

Somehow, I've managed to get a bearing find it's way into the chainstay ("D" blade), it rattles like hell, and it won't come out.

I've got the frame completely stripped down and in primer at the moment, I've tried to tease it out by precision shaking, wire prodding and errrr....can't think of anything else, apart from magnets and cutting a hole in the side of the stay (and I'm certainly not doing that).

As you no doubt know, the only exit route is via one of the two little holes on the inside of the BB (the one the bearing originally went through, but in the opposite direction).

I can see me blasting grease into the stay (via that little hole), when I've finished painting the bike...unless of course any of you can think of something better to stop it rattling around !

I suspect the joint between chainstay to the rear of the BB is acting as a type of partly obscured non-return valve.

Steve - irritated
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Stuck bearing ! posted by pete on 5/16/2009 at 12:11:17 PM
I occasionally use some aerosol waxoyl type goo that has a long insertion nozzle if all else fails work some of that down there with the long nozzle and when the stuff goes off a bit is really sticky and it will stop the thing rattling about in there.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Stuck bearing ! posted by Keith Body on 5/16/2009 at 12:21:50 PM
Hi Steve, how about a little expanding polystyrene foam like the builders use on replacement window frames?
Keith
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Stuck bearing ! posted by sam on 5/16/2009 at 2:03:09 PM
Sounds like it's getting caught on the pin nail used to hold the joint together during brazing.Try s screwdriver maybe a bent one to see if you can pry it a bit.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Stuck bearing ! posted by Steve on 5/17/2009 at 12:42:22 AM
Thanks Gents

Steve
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RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Stuck bearing ! posted by Chris on 5/20/2009 at 6:20:25 PM
Be careful with the expanding foam to much and you can do damage
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AGE / VALUE:Close up. posted by: Stephen Hogben on 5/16/2009 at 3:58:51 AM
Close ups Phillips/B.S.A. or whatever it is!


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RE:AGE / VALUE:Close up. posted by Stephen Hogben on 5/16/2009 at 9:16:42 AM
Sorry seem to have got that wrong trying again!


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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Headclip headsets posted by: Chris Davies on 5/16/2009 at 1:23:00 AM
Hello

I have a 1948 Raleigh Clubman. It's mostly original, including the weird "headclip" headset.
How do you adjust one of these? I can't find many references to them on t'internet.
Play vanishes if you tighten the nut on the collar, but then the headset gets notchy.
Any advice most welcome.
Chris (8
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Headclip headsets posted by sam on 5/16/2009 at 2:11:42 PM
The headset adjusts as any head set would.Then a toothed washer goes on with the tooth in the groove in the fork tube .The headset lock nut then sets the stem.Your headset may be woren,some have replaceable races,also new balls may do the trick---sam
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Headclip headsets posted by Jeff R on 5/16/2009 at 5:28:40 PM
I have a 1948 Clubman also. I rebuilt my head set and replaced the bearings. Use a small brass brush to clean the old hard grease out of the races. The brush looks like a toothbrush and can be found at a hardwear store. I have had my Clubman for 10 years and I ride it daily.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Drooling machine posted by: Pete on 5/15/2009 at 10:16:23 AM
Had to pop and see a bloke last night about a crankshaft for my BSA Bantam which turned out to be incorrect, anyway his worksop was worthy of opening to the public and crammed full of cars,bikes,motorbikes,powered bicycles you name it was there.I could have spent the last week in August first week of September in there just peering in drawers and on shelves etc.His workshop used to be a bicycle shop in the early 1900s and he had several bikes in there which aroused my curiosity.We started chatting olde bikey and he said have a look at this one under the sheet...WOW...it was a 1903 Centaur crossframe with duplex tubing and was totally untouched and original and was probably supplied by the shop that is now his workshop.Someone in the village had given it to him after their grandfather had died and it had been hanging in his garage for donkeys years hence its outstanding state of preservation and originality.The owner noticed my ever so obvious enthusiasm for the bike and insisted inflating the tyres and sending me down the road on it, which I jumped at the chance and mounted the beast.I thought my crossframe was enormous but this old thing was something else you didn't just look over van roofs you looked in bedroom windows aboard this old beauty and apart from the slightly buckled front wheel it rode like a dream and just glided along.It was well worth the 50 mile round trip just to see and ride the Centaur.I'd never heard of them before but believe me it is one of the most beautiful,elegant and stately looking crossframes you will ever cast your envious eyes over.I wanted to take it home so so badly but it was obvious from the owners enthusiasm for his bike that subject was not even worth asking about.What a rare privilege to find such a thing and in the most unlikely of circumstances whilst not even looking for such things.Long may people like the owner and probably all of us also keep the elderly and lovely mechanical items especially two wheeled ones alive,used and enjoyed.
Perfect evening out in the country......
Pete.........still drooling.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Drooling machine posted by Warren on 5/15/2009 at 2:19:49 PM
Good story about a great day!
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Drooling machine posted by Pete on 5/15/2009 at 5:54:09 PM
I just wish I had taken a camera and had some images of the bike and its surrounding curiosities.(with the owners consent of course)
Pete.....who didnt sleep last night thinking about it all..
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Drooling machine posted by Steve on 5/16/2009 at 12:48:36 AM
It's a wonderful feeling, you put the time and effort in searching for that elusive part, and now and again you're rewarded with something (or a sight) that you just didn't expect.

Last year I drove approximately 100 miles or so to collect a hard to find part (attached to the remnants of a parts only bike) and was rewarded with the classic phrase "there's an old bike under that sheet if you wouldn't mind taking it away for me"...

It was nowhere near as rare as the Centaur crossframe but nevertheless, I sang all the way home !

Steve
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AGE / VALUE:gold raleigh sports date posted by: mark on 5/14/2009 at 10:52:24 PM
the gold mens raleigh sporrts bought on ebay listed as 1970 has a hub date of 6 1966, looks orgnal, was ths color scheme made ths early? looks like it may have had a generator & rear light--front fender on above got crumbled n shipping : dd get comp from seller


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RE:AGE / VALUE:gold raleigh sports date posted by Warren on 5/15/2009 at 3:39:12 PM
Twist grips and white saddles ruled around 66 although I've never been sure about dating those funky chainguards. Nice condition.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:gold raleigh sports date posted by Steve on 5/16/2009 at 12:58:03 AM
My wife has one of those "funky chainguards" on her 1962 model "everyday high mileage had a hard life" Raleigh townbike.
I've got to do the BB bearings in it...today !

Steve - making a grinding noise !
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RE:AGE / VALUE: gold raleigh sports date posted by mark on 5/18/2009 at 4:26:06 PM
Hi Warren, thanks for your input on the gold Sports
--the other thing that seems to be damaged is the front hub axle--bent :(
is this a Raleigh specific/threaded piece or can I look for other options? if this is somewhere in the archives already, sorry, couuldn't find it.
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AGE / VALUE:What do I have? posted by: Peter Zale on 5/14/2009 at 6:00:35 PM
Hello!I cannot find any numbers on this bike.
I hope someone can help with it's age.
Looks like it said Roadster on the seat tube.
It has Rod Brakes, bolt on seat stays and non stainless spokes.
Thank ou,
Pete


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RE:AGE / VALUE:What do I have? posted by Steve on 5/15/2009 at 4:24:16 AM
I have two similar chainguards here (one on an unknown bike and the other off a Phillips).

The nearest I've got to this, is my unknown bike and a Hercules, have you checked the nearside rear drop-out for serial number (as well as the usual places).

Interesting frame shape, but (with my limited knowledge) I can't see a Raleigh connection from here.

I'll just pop down to the cave to see if I can root out the unknown bike.

Steve - If I'm not back in two or three days, send the search party out !
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RE:AGE / VALUE:What do I have? posted by Steve on 5/15/2009 at 4:42:18 AM
Well, it's a small world, but I think you might have the male version of my unknown ladies bike.

i.e. Mr & Mrs Nobody !

I've raised the question of manufacturer on my Flickr photo site, but as of yet no one as yet to come forward with a 100% positive identification, any suggestions gladly welcomed.

It's a pity mine is the ladies version, nevertheless it does have a 22" seat tube (which is better for me), and I would like to think it's a 1930/40's machine.

Steve


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RE:AGE / VALUE:What do I have? posted by Matthew on 5/15/2009 at 9:46:23 AM
Hi Peter and Steve,

Neither is a Raleigh but as to what they are? Your guess may be as good as anyone else's.

Matthew - guessomatic - with electrosmoothrite
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AGE / VALUE:Raleigh Tourist D.L.1. ESGEE KICKSTAND ON E- BAY posted by: Chris on 5/13/2009 at 5:32:20 PM
And here is the kickstand, the exact one our friend here was talking about the other day and at a great price for one that is N.O.S.

e-bay item # 140319795456 esgee pletscher kickstand alloy

no relation to seller
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RE:AGE / VALUE: Raleigh Tourist D.L.1. ESGEE KICKSTAND ON E- BAY posted by Al on 5/14/2009 at 10:25:27 AM
Hey that stand looks like the one on my Tourist. Didn't know they were still out there.

Which reminds me. My prop stand has a rubber tip that I like very much. So much, I'd like to find another rubber bumper for my other non-Tourist bicycles. Anyone have a suggestion where to get one, or how to cococt one from existing hardware store bits?


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AGE / VALUE:mismatched wheel rims, but better than the other one on offer posted by: Chris on 5/13/2009 at 5:25:19 PM
This Raleigh tourist has a 24 inch frame but has mismatched wheel rims- it won't interfere with it's use, but it's still mismatched. I have never seen these Westrick rims offered in this 28 inch size before. this is e- bay item # 330328684635

nice bike anyways!
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RE:AGE / VALUE:mismatched wheel rims posted by Chris on 5/13/2009 at 5:30:53 PM
I was wrong, the other one is better it has a better Brooks seat. I know how to solve this, buy them both!!
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