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AGE / VALUE:   I think these are fakes! posted by: Chris on 5/13/2009 at 5:07:52 PM
Take a look at e- bay item # 220412297165 N.O.S. vintage Raleigh grips

I think the packaging is fake and the grips are fakes I do not believe that these came from Nottingham. What does T.T.C. mean? Not T.D.C. as in another company T.D.Cross and Sons but T.T.C.? and the R looks wrong too.

I don't care for anything that comes out of Thailand that is offered to British bicycle owners, fans or especially collectors.

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   I think these are fakes! posted by Chris on 5/13/2009 at 5:21:24 PM
Handlebar grips are important, the wrong grips throws the whole thing off and short circuits the magic and old British bicycle handlebar grips are magical and the older they are the more cool and magical they become.

Collector Leon Dixon could tell coming up your driveway what was wrong with the bike you had out to show him before he even got close to it. He is that good. I'm no Leon Dixon, and never will be but, I love my Raleigh bikes.

I'm trying to keep my dinner down so I won't go into what I think about the enclosed chaincases from Thailand I see on the bay. I don't see the mounting hardware offered either..... Urp!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   I think these are fakes! posted by Matthew on 5/14/2009 at 11:12:03 AM
I'm not sure but I have never seen this style of grip on any UK Raleigh.

Matthew - gripping stuff
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   I think these are fakes! posted by Jeff Bikeguy on 5/14/2009 at 6:44:10 PM
Leon is a sharp guy when it comes to old wheel goods, especially American balloon tire bikes. I used to talk to him through the old AOL instant messaging. I still see him on from time to time. I'll have to see what he's been up to lately...
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MISC:   Front wheel hub/axle. posted by: Thom J. on 5/13/2009 at 8:48:07 AM
This is a sorta cross-post from the For Sale/Wanted list....just a little different. I'm getting parts together to build up new wheels for my Trent Sports. I'm going to use 590mm wheels and tires since it's a size very close to the 597mm wheels that the bike came with and really nice tires are available. Anyway, I need a hub/axle for the front wheel. I was thinking of using an older Raleigh/SA hub but got to thinking that there may be another way to do this with newer products. Need suggestions and input as to what you might use. Shimano, "BMX" style or ? Thx in advance, Thom.
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           RE:MISC:   Front wheel hub/axle. posted by Warren on 5/13/2009 at 10:19:13 AM
Does you Trent have the keyhole slots on the inside or the outside of the fork ends? These are a good reason to use the period Raleigh/SA hub with the correct cones or axle nuts. It just feels right when that wheel slips in and centers itself up. Let me know which hub you need...I have a few extra.
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           RE:MISC:   Front wheel hub/axle. posted by Thom J. on 5/13/2009 at 10:42:46 AM
Thx Warren. I'll check the fork ends to see what the details are and advise. I hadn't paid much attention to this detail before....live and learn. Thom.
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           RE:RE:MISC:   Front wheel hub/axle. posted by Chris on 5/13/2009 at 5:38:33 PM
I agree with Warren and could not have said it better.
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           RE:MISC:   Front wheel hub/axle. posted by Thom J. on 5/14/2009 at 8:07:27 AM
The slots are on the inside of the fork ends. It's ever so suttle. If you have one of each, I'll buy them from you. Can always use a spare for the other old Raleighs. Please advise on this post or off-list. Thx again, Thom.
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AGE / VALUE:   Quick look this up! write it down, save a copy on paper posted by: Chris on 5/12/2009 at 6:35:57 PM
Yikes! Please look up e- bay item # and read and write this down and buy the thing too if you can!

this needs to go straight into the folding bike hisdtory books!

e- bay item# 200338549258
unique original prototype of Len Rubins Super Brompton!!

I don't want this information lost and my printer didn't print all of what is being said about this!

This needs to get forwarded to the folding society in the U.K.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Quick look this up! write it down, save a copy on paper posted by Pete on 5/13/2009 at 1:23:09 PM
That is one hell of a piece of engineering.Never seen one of them before.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Quick look this up! write it down, save a copy on paper posted by Chris on 5/13/2009 at 5:22:43 PM
one hour left!!
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Quick look this up! write it down, save a copy on paper posted by Chris on 5/13/2009 at 5:37:10 PM
Ah, you all know how much Sheldon Brown would have LOVED to see this Brompton!!

Speaking of Sheldon, The last I heard or saw, the one bike of his that was being offered on e- bay was pulled before it closed I assume somebody bought it before it ended. I wonder what happened to his other bikes? has anybody any information?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Quick look this up! write it down, save a copy on paper posted by David on 5/14/2009 at 5:07:29 AM
I had heard that Harriet was selling most of his bikes. I doubt many of them are her size and there are plenty of people who would like a good idiosyncratic bike of Sheldon's. It would probably be fairly easy to sell them around Boston and avoid the hassle of shipping. There's plenty of interest in such bikes around here.
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AGE / VALUE:   Brooks saddle video on you tube posted by: Chris on 5/12/2009 at 6:18:00 PM
A well done 2 part piece is on you tube they show the copper rivit Brooks being assembled. Not to be missed

you tube. com
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AGE / VALUE:   Brooks New product Brick Lane Roll up Panniers posted by: Chris on 5/11/2009 at 6:45:13 PM
I went into shock, fell off the chair! Brooks England has unveiled their" Brick Lane Roll Up Panniers". Take a look at the Brooks England website. This is the leather saddle maker.

I have been waiting a very long time for these!

Exciting!
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MISC:   Larz Anderson Bicycle Swap Meet & Show posted by: Peter Naiman on 5/11/2009 at 5:42:41 PM
Hello all,

Contrary to rumors going around, the LARZ ANDERSON BICYCLE SHOW & SWAP MEET is a happening event this year and scheduled for August as always, but since Cirque comes before Larz, out of respect for the great group that hosts Cirque, we purposely say little about LARZ until after Circue.

As usual the show will be on a Sunday, but because we've not decided on a date the show is not on the Larz Anderson Museums lawn events schedule as yet, but most likely the show will be scheduled for Sunday August 9th.

We're hoping to get this show back to where it was several years ago as one of the premier Vintage Cycling events that everone wants to attend. Is recent years Larz has not been quite the same, mostly because former staff at the Museum decided to cancel the Swap Meet against the wishes & objections of both Maurice and myself. But the Museum has a completely new, supportive & enthuisiastic staff that are in favor of a swap meet.

Again this years show will be as always an all inclusive Vintage Show for all eras of cycling, and we encourage you to bring any era bicycle to our show. We are a little late in planning due to health issues I've been undergoing these past six weeks, but I'm back on my feet and we're looking forward to a better than ever year at Larz.

If anyone in the New England area would like to volunteer their help with Larz, or presenting a lecture it would be greatly appreciated !!

More information will follow in the coming weeks.

Best regards from the both of us !!

Maurice Bresnahan & Peter Naiman
Milwaukee, WI & Boston Mass, USA

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           RE:MISC:   Larz Anderson Bicycle Swap Meet & Show posted by Btuce on 5/12/2009 at 5:16:49 AM
Being new to the hobby (the onset of nostalgia has a certain lag time), and I have yet to attend a major vintage bike show. I will be looking for any info that you post. Thanks
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           RE:RE:MISC:   Larz Anderson Bicycle Swap Meet & Show posted by Chris on 5/12/2009 at 5:55:51 PM
I am glad the staff that canceled the swap meet is the "FORMER STAFF"
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AGE / VALUE:   Roadster bikes, truing stand scene Movie: Michael Collins posted by: Chris on 5/11/2009 at 5:31:05 PM
Ok, it's about the Irish fighting for independence from England............ I saw the V.H.S. movie called "Michael Collins" with Liam Neeson There are rod brake roadster bikes and a scene with a guy truing a 28 inch wheel in a truing stand. A well done movie with period cars, military vehicles, and bikes. It is worth seeing if you have not seen it already.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Roadster bikes, truing stand scene Movie: Michael Collins posted by Warren on 5/11/2009 at 6:50:21 PM
Neil Jordan can be a great film maker...especially when it's about Ireland.
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MISC:   LEDs for DynoHubs posted by: Dale on 5/11/2009 at 9:44:46 AM
A few years back I bought the ReflectaLite halogen replacement bulbs for our two (now 3) GH6 equipped bikes. They have better light output than the originals. Now I'd like to retrofit with LEDs. I have the skills and knowledge to work up an LED substitute, and I've seen the how-to articles, but I don't want to invest the time.

Does anyone make screw-in LED replacement bulbs?
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           RE:MISC:   LEDs for DynoHubs posted by PRM on 5/11/2009 at 1:18:46 PM
What model/code did you use for Reflectalite lightbulbs, anyway?

Thanks in advance-
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           RE:MISC:   LEDs for DynoHubs posted by David on 5/12/2009 at 9:37:13 AM
Surf over to Reflectalite.com There is a big substitution chart.
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           RE:MISC:   LEDs for DynoHubs posted by Dale on 5/14/2009 at 6:54:36 AM
PRM, they are the GH103 and GH106 pair.

David, I had already looked at their chart. But I have more info. I contacted them, and they were very helpful. No, they do not have a substitue available. But they gave me a couple of recommendations for LED suppliers. I guess it will be a winter project next year. I'll start with an old screw in bulb, gut the glass parts and attach a piece of copper clad board with the components. Looks like it will need a bridge rectifier and maybe a current limiting resistor. I already have overvoltage protection built into the headlamp housing, using zener diodes.

If/when I finish the project, I'll include a web pointer to a writeup on it.
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AGE / VALUE:   The Chertsey One! posted by: Stephen Hogben on 5/9/2009 at 2:57:42 PM
Matthew here it is "Free the Chertsey one!


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Chertsey One! posted by Matthew on 5/10/2009 at 2:09:03 PM
Brilliant Stephen.

Now all we need to do is release the captive and make good our escape!

Matthew - you were only supposed to blow the ****** doors off.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Chertsey One! posted by Steve on 5/11/2009 at 12:52:15 AM
Nice flowers...but incorrect front wheel !

Steve
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AGE / VALUE:   Philips/B.S.A. posted by: Stephen Hogben on 5/9/2009 at 3:26:00 AM
Re this B.S.A, frame,Philips handlebar,1934 K4 3 speed hub bike I am re-building,have found a frame number.It is 71586.Does this mean anything to anybody?Will try and get a picture,but not very good on computers! Thanks.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Philips/B.S.A. posted by Stephen Hogben on 5/9/2009 at 2:36:22 PM
Hope this works!


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Philips/B.S.A. posted by Stephen Hogben on 5/9/2009 at 2:52:49 PM
Flippen Heck it worked!!! All the missing bits of the bike have been painted and put in shed number 3 ready for re-build,It is a complete (if Philips,B.S.A.) bike.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Philips/B.S.A. posted by Steve on 5/11/2009 at 5:57:53 AM
From my photo (that I can't explode/enlarge), the rims (and the spokes on the front one) look fantastic, not sure about the peddles, and I can't make out the chainwheel.

Should the spoke arrangement be 40R/32F to link in with 1934, and why is your lawn neater than mine ?

Steve
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Philips/B.S.A. posted by Stephen Hogben on 5/11/2009 at 2:53:14 PM
Will take a couple of closer shots Steve. Just found out my mate at work,his mum works at a chrome platers!!!!!!He has had a word with her and I have been told give all the bits to my mate and I will recieve them back plated for free!! How lucky is that !
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Philips/B.S.A. posted by Steve on 5/11/2009 at 3:37:51 PM
Yes that's very lucky...you do realise that you wont be able to moan if they make a "pigs ear" of it though !

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, it's a delicate subject.

Steve
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Philips/B.S.A. posted by Stephen Hogben on 5/15/2009 at 9:40:40 AM
A close up!


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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1971 DL1 Raleigh Kickstand posted by: MoonmanVT on 5/8/2009 at 4:02:36 PM
I just purchased a "barn find"1971 DL1, rod brake. Everything looks restorable except for the kickstand. I am very familiar with the AW3 hubs, and everything else Raleigh. The brake clean-up and reassembly will be a blast. However, the kickstand is a different story. The original stand snapped off and is long gone, but the bracket was still there. The actual bracket is offset. I tried taking a new Greenfield and cut/ground the center section down hoping I could take off enough toaccomodate the rear rod brake linkage. No dice. Does anyone know of any currant acceptable replacement DL1 stand? Too bad Sheldon is no longer with us. Thanks MoonmanVT
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1971 DL1 Raleigh Kickstand posted by Warren on 5/8/2009 at 6:37:28 PM
Gotta picture of the remaining pieces?
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1971 DL1 Raleigh Kickstand posted by Chris on 5/9/2009 at 9:48:09 AM
E- bay or your local bike shop that still may have a box full of them lying in a forgotten section of the shop.
never cerase to be amazed howe many people still love, collect and are still discovering this bike for the first time.

the kickstand is an Esgee Pletscher alloy kickstand made in Germany let us know how this is solved
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           RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1971 DL1 Raleigh Kickstand posted by Chris on 5/9/2009 at 9:55:53 AM
What is your e- mail address? please e- mail me your e- mail address so I can forward your e- mail address to him. I can't read your e- mail address. I got out my cell phone and called a bike friend in Michigan from Texas and he is looking in his stash for your kickstand. if he has it, it's between you and him

My pal Joe didn't know what to ask you for one and I suggested 20.00 plus ship I gave him your e- mail address but I had trouble understanding the e- mail address as I read it here.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1971 DL1 Raleigh Kickstand posted by MoonmanVT on 5/10/2009 at 4:31:12 AM
Hey Responders,
Thanks for your feedback! I went out into my workshop this morning to snap a few photos of the remainder of my kickstand. Instead I tried refitting everything, got out my Dremel and went back to work. I found that by removing approximately 3/8 inch off of the Greenfield, tweaking the mounting position and alignment, the stand fits. The u-shaped bracket for the rear brake will not hit the stand until the pads are worn way passed their useful life. A little persistance paid off. Thanks again,and I will attempt to post a photo later. MoonmanVT
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   54 rudge posted by: rick on 5/8/2009 at 10:23:36 AM
Hi, I've got a '54 rudge sport male 3 speed. Need to get rid of it but i don't know the value. I've had people tell me everything from $0 to $1000. Its a bit beat up but rides ok. I think its all original except for the seat. Can anybody give me some advice?
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   54 rudge posted by Matthew on 5/8/2009 at 10:34:58 AM
A picture please before I commit to a valuation.

Matthew - conditional normal
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Correct PSI? 26" 1 3/8 posted by: quazy on 5/7/2009 at 6:53:42 AM
Hello, Just started riding an old Viscount. Hub says Sturmey Archer 53 7. Just wondering how much the tires should be inflated? Just had to replace one of the well worn and patched tubes which read Continental 26 1 3/8A with a Shrader one from the local shop. I read 55PSI somewhere but eh, new to this stuff and it's a bit of a maze. Rather not ruin a fresh tube or the old tires/wheels themselves.
Also, people suggest light oil for the hub. How about for the trigger shifter? Mine is very rusty and rough :/ Takes a certain jiggle/muscle heh.
Also curious of the value because it's locked up outside my office but meh, I just wanna ride it and enjoy it.
Thanks so much!


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Correct PSI? 26 posted by Keith Body on 5/7/2009 at 12:27:43 PM
50 / 55 PSI should be OK. Make sure the tyre is level all round. Before pumping up we used to push the valve further through the hole in the rim to allow the wire bead to settle, then pull it back down.
Light oil should do, also take the cable (and the brake cables) off and work some oil down them. It will all go a bit easier after. Also adjust the gear (toggle chain) correctly, info on here.
Keith
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Correct PSI? 26 posted by David on 5/8/2009 at 3:41:15 AM
Use light MACHINE oil (like SAE 20 motor oil) in the hub. Vegetable oils dry up and get gummy. These great bikes will take all kinds of neglect but the best thing you can do is keep things lubricated. Happy riding.
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MISC:   pacific-cycles posted by: humblechoice on 5/6/2009 at 6:15:15 PM
I have come across a 20 inch chrome pacific-cycle,with a banna seat,the only info on the bike is the ser# SNACE040415689 and pacific-cycle on the frame. I have googled the name but can not find anything on this bike. Hoping you could help
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           RE:MISC:   pacific-cycles posted by David on 5/7/2009 at 5:48:14 AM
You're on the wrong discussion list, this is English roadsters. It sounds like you have a Stingray-type bike. I think Pacific is a recent "repop" type brand so your bike is no antique. It is what it is.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bicycle rack posted by: Bruce on 5/6/2009 at 5:09:50 AM
I would like to mount a rack on the back of my DL-1 to support panniers. The problem is all the commercially made racks I have seen will only accomodate a bike with 26 in. wheels or less. I am open to any suggestions, thanks.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Bicycle rack posted by Al on 5/6/2009 at 9:54:19 AM

My favorite:

http://www.velo-orange.com/vochcofrra.html

Elegant, accomodates larger frames. Built to last as long as the bike. And it comes in stainless if you desire ultimate longevity.

Or you could troll around for a Pletscher rack on eBay. You'd still have to come up with hardware to mount the bottom of your panniers.

Lastly, there are some old Midland racks out there. These were British design for 3-speeds. Also no fitting for lower pannier mounting.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bicycle rack posted by sam on 5/6/2009 at 7:43:49 PM
1" alum bar stock,some rivits,a drill,and a cool shady Saterday afternoon
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bicycle rack posted by Kevin on 5/10/2009 at 4:19:03 AM
Sam--
Great solution -- that sounds like heaven to me. I'm a shade tree Mr. Fixit/Buildit, too. Who needs eBay?
Kevin
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bicycle rack posted by Bruce on 5/10/2009 at 7:08:29 AM
Thanks for your responses to my post. Orange-velo has a beautiful selection of merchandise, and I would recommend a visit there for the entertainment value at least. Next time I'm in Annapolis I plan to stop in and see it in person. Sam's idea of making my own made me think "what the hey, maybe I should try that". I have a piece of lacewood sitting in my shop right now that would make a unique looking rack on a older Raliegh. I'll post a picture when I have it finished. Thanks again.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bicycle rack posted by Dale on 5/11/2009 at 9:41:07 AM
I found an old steel rack on a 70-something Sears three-speed (the ones made in Germany with Sachs hubs.) To fit my Tourist, I added a piece of 1/4" steel rod, creating a third support strut, having it welded to the top and the crosspiece near the bottom. Also had welded a tab on the bottom for mounting. This let me make it long enough for the big wheels.

The disadvangage is that the rest of the rack is chrome. I will probably scrub up the chrome and paint the whole thing black to match the bike.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bicycle rack posted by NormanF on 5/13/2009 at 10:08:19 PM
Classic Cycle.de in Germany offers a Steco rear rack with fold down wheelstand. I have it installed on my Pashley Guvnor converted into a roadster. Its period correct!
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