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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Replacement axel for Sturmy Archor Dynohub posted by: Trevor on 4/26/2009 at 1:56:21 PM
I recently found a neglected 1951 Raleigh Sports with a Dynohub. The threads are stripped on both ends of the Dynohub axel and I am having a hard time finding a replacement. Any tips? Thanks

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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Replacement axel for Sturmey Archer Dynohub posted by Trevor on 4/26/2009 at 2:03:20 PM
I recently found a neglected 1951 Raleigh Sports with a Dynohub. The threads are stripped on both ends of the Dynohub axel and I am having a hard time finding a replacement. Any tips? Thanks

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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:���Replacement axel for Sturmy Archor Dynohub posted by Matthew on 4/26/2009 at 2:54:57 PM
Yes, top tip; Post a message here and wait for replies!

You are well on the way to success. We will have the answer.
Don't forget the threads are British Standard Cycle Thread. Can you get the hub components off the axle safely?

Matthew - the answer is out there.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Replacement axel for Sturmy Archor Dynohub posted by Steve on 4/26/2009 at 4:08:07 PM
I have a similar bike here with almost the same problem, fortunately the threads are only damaged towards the hub i.e. theres still some outer threads remaining...I've cheated by inserting an extra washer/spacer or two and pushed the nuts out to the good thread and tightened up at that point.
I know it's not pretty...but neither am I !

I'm not sure if a Tap & Die set could solve the problem, I suppose it depends on how badly damaged it is.

I can't remember the last time I saw the "innards" of a Dynohub for sale at the local bike shop, any chance of acquiring a scrap wheel with a healthy dyno hub and then carrying out a transplant ?

Knowing my luck I would probably acquire a hub with healthy threads, but a rotten core.

Lots of axles over the years have been rubbed (forced) into dropouts and/or overtightened causing thread damage, could an axle be "built up" and re-threaded ?

Be interesting to hear other peoples comments on this matter.

Let us know how you get on.

Steve - might not be pretty..."but it'll get me home"
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Replacement axel for Sturmy Archor Dynohub posted by David on 4/27/2009 at 3:37:41 AM
Whatever you do, don't separate the ring magnet from the armature inside it; the magnetism will be lost and the dynamo won't generate electricity any more. Finding a die to chase the axle threads won't be easy. If you find a source, please post.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Replacement axel for Sturmy Archor Dynohub posted by Steve on 4/27/2009 at 5:27:10 AM
David, thanks to Matthews B.S.C.T. prompt (and the fact that I'm about to put a new thread into the jaw of a Record No23 vice), I did go tap & die hunting in my garage, but only managed to unearth some dusty well used ancient looking imperial taps in a 1957 tin of OXO beef flavour gravy stock granules (I don't think they did chicken flavour in those days, although I do stand to be corrected on this issue).
Nowadays we get our OXO cubes in cardboard boxes...and they're rubbish for keeping tools in, so we have to wait until January when the Cadburys Roses Christmas tin of chocolates finally expires before we get a new tin for yet more vital pieces of stuff that I'll probably never use !

Anyhow, most tap & die sets for sale (in Britain) via the internet or shops these days tend to be metric, mind you I did spot a Whitworth set recently at a greatly reduced price (I don't suppose they're in such great demand and probably want to off-load them).

British Standard Cycle Thread...hmmmmmm, this is where I get all mixed up !

Steve - N.O.S.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Replacement axel for Sturmy Archor Dynohub posted by Keith Body on 4/27/2009 at 6:04:48 AM
The threads were 3/8 x 26 tpi, and the only difference between this and a standard rear axle is the thread is cut further towards the centre (a lot of cheap rear hubs had rolled threads). The flats to allow it into the front forkends are easy enough, and I used to file these just where they meet the ends, not where the hub nut is tightened.
Don't worry about the magnet, there used to be a keeper (I had one) but it really does not matter, had them apart many times without a problem. It's only theoretical.
I also used to give the armature a little more clearance by light hammering and a little filing.
It might be possible to cut a piece from the centre of a rear axle, and join it, my preferred method would be to drill holes in the cut ends and silver braze a suitable pin.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Replacement axel for Sturmy Archor Dynohub posted by Kevin on 4/27/2009 at 4:20:57 PM
If you can't fix it, I have a complete front wheel with Dynohub off a Sports that I'd sell for $50 plus shipping.
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RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Replacement axel for Sturmy Archor Dynohub posted by Trevor on 4/29/2009 at 9:42:35 AM
Thanks for the advice. Kevin I appreciate your offer....How can i get your direct email?

Thanks again,

Trevor
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Replacement axel for Sturmy Archor Dynohub posted by Kevin on 4/30/2009 at 5:41:54 AM
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AGE / VALUE:saline ann arbor is tomorrow posted by: Chris on 4/25/2009 at 8:37:27 AM
Washtenaw farm council grounds ann arbor michigan last sunday of april is tomorrow classic bicycle and whizzer club of america not to be missed the bike swap meet of the year!!!!!

bring a lot of loot, its riotous
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:The Coolest old Phillips posted by: Geoff Rogers on 4/23/2009 at 6:52:38 PM
I attended the bicycle swap meet in Copake, NY last Friday and left with a few gems. Among them were a pair of 70s DL1s in need of lot of restoration but basically sound, a nice original Dunelt man's 3-speed from 1955, a '65 Raleigh woman's Sports, and a Peugeot 10-speed (what's that doing in here?). I also found a lot of great parts: a 50s Raleigh gearcase, some NOS brakes and cables, and a couple of nice wheels, one with Dynohub, but the best thing I picked up there was one of the neatest old bicycles I have every owned. And I have owned a few! It's a lady's Phillips single speed, definitely prewar or even wartime, and just incredibly original and unspoiled. I bought it, frankly, because is was cheap, and any cheap rod-brakes English bike is a good thing. But after I rolled it towards my ancient Volvo for transportation home, I began to realize what I had bought. Now that I have cleaned it up superficially, I see that this machine is unscratched and the chrome sparkles. The Dunlop War Grade tires are in superb condition, if a bit hard! (I did have to replace both tubes, as they had dry-rotted badly and there was no way even to patch them; I have a supply of good used Dunlops with steel stems so I used a couple of those). The saddle is tooled leather, stamped Phillips on the side. Everywhere you look are cool old decals. Even the forks have "Phillips-genuine English fork" decals, and of course, the seat tube, mudguards and head tube all have Phillips decals. The original brake blocks are hard as stone, but they still have the moulding marks on the braking surfaces, so they have almost never been used. The bike is just amazing, a pretty little thing. Now, the question is, what do I do with it? It really should be in a museum so others can enjoy it. I have a dozen or so cycles in my "permanent" collection, so I really don't need it, and it's way too unspoiled to ride it. Anybody with ideas is welcome to offer them. Meanwhile, I will post some pics to Vin's great database later.
The moral is, go to Copake for British bikes and parts. There were lots on offer at the Saturday auction, too, but I did not win any, as the collectors seem to have discovered
the English roadster, and nice ones were selling for $200-plus. But the swap meet was the place to be! The atmosphere there is always great fun, and the bargains are the icing on the cake.
Geoff Rogers
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:The Coolest old Phillips posted by Geoff Rogers on 4/23/2009 at 7:28:27 PM
Here's the link for pics of the Phillips. Tell me this machine isn't amazing!
Geoff


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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:The Coolest old Phillips posted by mark H on 4/24/2009 at 11:08:49 AM
very nice phillips.to bad its a female frame?maybe you could find a girl that would cherish that bike.that might be worth it.i would like to go to a copake sale but it would cost me to much.but i like hearing stories,thanks
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:The Coolest old Phillips posted by Kevin on 4/24/2009 at 12:30:56 PM
eBay.
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RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:The Coolest old Phillips posted by Chris on 4/25/2009 at 8:45:06 AM
999.00 yes it's worth every penny. I don't like those square fenders.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:The Coolest old Phillips posted by Geoff Rogers on 4/26/2009 at 6:22:00 PM
Please don't think me greedy with the $999 price; I put that on the website because I don't want to sell the bike and I thought if I listed it at a ridiculous price, nobody would buy it. I just wanted to list the pics so others could have a look. I would be surprised if it's really worth $999. I tried to list it at a $1,000,000 but my website won't let me list anything over $999. Not that I have anything that's worth that much anyhow! The square fenders are a bit clumsy looking. They look a bit like late-model DL1 fenders. But they are shiny and the lining is pretty close to perfect! It's interesting that this bike was definitely around during WWII, but never received a rear fender white flash. Maybe US-market cycles never did have white flashes until later.
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AGE / VALUE:08GC Raleigh BB Spindle posted by: karl on 4/23/2009 at 11:07:38 AM
Looking for an 08GC cottered BB spindle to complete my Raleigh DL-1 Tourist. Good used or NOS...Any help greatly appreciated.
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FOR SALE:Thinking of selling my 1931 Sunbeam roadster posted by: David Poston on 4/22/2009 at 10:31:51 AM
Alas, finances are tight and I am considering selling my beloved 1931 "Golden" Sunbeam roadster. I had it shipped across the pond from England about 5 years ago. It has been restored (partially) and looks very new. It is a 22" frame on 26 x 1 1/2" wheels. Rod brakes. Original celluloid grips. Sunbeam oil bath chaincase. All ball bearings have been meticulously renewed and new grease has been applied. I have done this personally.

If you are perhaps interested, email me and tempt me with an offer. I do know that these things are as rare as hen's teeth on this side of the pond.

I'll try to post pics in the next couple days.
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RE:FOR SALE:Thinking of selling my 1931 Sunbeam roadster posted by sam on 4/24/2009 at 6:47:19 PM
OUCH!
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RE:RE:FOR SALE:Thinking of selling my 1931 Sunbeam roadster posted by Chris on 4/25/2009 at 8:48:48 AM
Sorry to hear this, David. Yes. Sorry to hear this- chris
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RE:FOR SALE:Thinking of selling my 1931 Sunbeam roadster posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/25/2009 at 9:41:07 AM
Yeah... sad times indeed. I'm thinking if it were I posting this... it would only mean that I had ALREADY sold my first born into slavery.

:-(

No other possible solution(s), David?

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Sunbeams being sold.... we ARE in troubled times.....
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Shimano FH Positron adjust derailleur gear posted by: annie Viggers on 4/22/2009 at 4:37:26 AM
Hi

I have got a Ladies Raleigh Roadster aged about 25 years, 26 x 1 3/8 tyres. 5 speed gears, cable control, it has a separate gear shift not integrated into the hand grip.
Gears have a single adjust screw that holds the shift arm in position after adjusting. The arm can be adjusted by pressing a release button next to the locking screw. deraileur arm has wording FH Postron adjust on it. Seems to be made of aluminium (or similar) as it has no rust.


Can anyone advise how to set the Shimano FH Positron derailleur gears? The best I can get is the middle 3 gears out of 5, and apart from the gear problem it is a really nice bike to commute with, light enough to take up the stairs at the railway station, and carry onto trains, old enough to be ignored by vandals, and sturdy enough for the really bad road surfaces. but I would like to use all 5 gears.

thank you in advance everybody.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Shimano FH Positron adjust derailleur gear posted by Warren on 4/22/2009 at 5:31:25 AM
Look for the top and bottom limiting screws on the derailleur first. Get the chain down into the small cog and check and adjust cable tension.

The whole Positron system was a bit of a failure...the system required the correct derailleurs, shifters, uni-glide chain and Shimano cassette hub. The indexing takes place in the derailleur as opposed to the shifters. Your best bet is to get a new inexpensive rear derailleur (anything by Suntour?) and convert to friction shifting.

If you want to keep the bike original, you can contact St John St Cycles. They still sell the FH derailleurs and can maybe help you out. ...http://tinyurl.com/dxchh8
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Shimano FH Positron adjust derailleur gear posted by Annie Viggers on 4/24/2009 at 3:22:24 AM
Oh dear, I was hoping to avoid doing work on the bike as I only use it as a cheap bike to take on/off trains to go to work.

I usually do about 6 miles/day on it.

will probably sell then.

thank you for your help
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Shimano FH Positron adjust derailleur gear posted by Matthew on 4/24/2009 at 11:06:09 AM
Hi Annie,

Sell it and buy a proper bike. Look at some of the images here and see what we mean by proper bike. Once you've ridden one you won't want to return to anything else.

Technically your bicycle is not an English roadster, but we folks here like to be helpful.

Matthew - preaching to the converted, often.
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AGE / VALUE:Dr Bike posted by: Matthew on 4/21/2009 at 1:34:49 PM
Hi Folks,

Today I have felt better ( more fit and well) than I have for several weeks. This has been good as I was running at Dr. Bike clinic at our local High School as part of 'Bike to school week'.

The bikes were all mediocre, modern and poorly maintained. I adjusted brakes, lubricated cables and chains & generally fettled the machines. There were only 22 cyclists in a school of 1000 pupils and only 10 took up the offer of a free health check for their bicycle. Only three were dangerous; 1 had barely an inch of seat stem in the seat tube and two had dangerously frayed cables. One very neat little early 90's Raleigh had a brake block which had crumbled, probably from age and lack of use; it looked almost new in every other aspect.

More important than any of this was the opportunity to talk bicycles to many young people. They want to know more, they want to learn how to maintain their bikes and they wnat another Dr Bike Clinic.

I will do my best to encourage them and may run another clinic in National Cycle Week in June.

Matthew - evangelical cyclist - that's me.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Dr Bike posted by Steve on 4/21/2009 at 2:29:14 PM
Well done Matthew.

Good to hear your feeling a little better.

I was going to say "wot no rods", but I'll bet you didn't even see any calipers...v brakes galore !

Steve - times are changing, sorry...have changed.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Dr Bike posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/23/2009 at 6:12:30 AM
Glad to hear you're feeling better. Yes... perservere until you get a definitive answer.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - perserverance and indefatigability. Attributes? heh heh....
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AGE / VALUE:One for Matthew? posted by: Pete on 4/21/2009 at 9:53:39 AM
Seen this and thought of Matthew and maybe steve? An interesting machine to say the least!
Ebay Item number: 320362720882
Save those aching legs...Pete.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:One for Matthew? posted by Steve on 4/21/2009 at 10:24:35 AM
If only, if only...I had more time, or if my dad lived next door...he could do the engine bits and I'd do the other stuff.
It is a Gundle, Gundle like so many others did produce motorbikes before eventually settling down to produce good quality tradebikes/cycle trucks and some really wonderful things...one of which looked something like a sedan chair for upper management !
Be interesting to see what it sells for...could be peanuts or it could be staggering, there's lots of strange prices being attained at the moment.
Matthew might prefer to put a Mini 850 engine in it !

Thanks Pete.

Meanwhile I'm just fiddling about outside with a S/A KB4 (the first I've come across).

Steve - chocks away...
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RE:AGE / VALUE:One for Matthew? posted by Matthew on 4/21/2009 at 1:27:32 PM
Hi Pete & Steve,

What a machine! Or perhaps; What? A machine?

Atco lawnmower fuel tank, Raleigh (NOT Sturmey Archer) engine, with SA centrifugal clutch / primary drive. Ugly as sin and dangerous. Other wise I love it.

The intended; for I do not believe this is the remains of a once noble steed, final drive was to be belt drive to the BB and the original chain drive to the rear wheel. Brakes? One rod and one hanging free.

Trade bikes are fetching barking mad prices right now. Two have recently sold for 410 and 320 respectively. Potty prices; what credit crunch? There are two more on eBay one at 102 and another (modern Pashley) at 225. I guess there must be a few eager buyers out there?

Hey ho! Anyone got a trade bike to sell?

Matthew - crazy crunch.
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One for Matthew? Or not? posted by Matthew on 4/21/2009 at 1:57:16 PM
Or you could die young (and poor) by buying this; eBay item 360147821814

Too slow to be much fun and too fast even for the SA drum brakes of the modern Pashley.

The description is a work of literary art.

Matthew - less haste and little speed
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:One for Matthew? posted by Warren on 4/21/2009 at 4:32:24 PM
Doesn't it say Sturmey Archer on the crankcase?
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RE:AGE / VALUE:One for Matthew? posted by Matthew on 4/22/2009 at 10:30:23 AM
Hi Warren,

Yes and no. It says Sturmey Archer; on the centrifugal clutch cover.

Matthew - man of many parts, some still working!
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MISC:Post Surgery Update posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/20/2009 at 9:29:21 PM
Had the surgery on the right foot on Friday. Quite tender for a couple of days. Today, I'm getting around nicely on it albeit I'm in a special boot... that actually feels very much like a Ski Boot.

Little bit of a setback this evening as I tripped a bit but that seems to be OK now.

I will say this... the actualy Plantar Fasciitis pain is GONE. So hopefully, once I'm past the 6 week recovery... all will be well.

All that being said, I'm more concerned about our fellow Matthew. Hopefully, we'll hear from him soon and it will be even better news than mine!

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Walkin' like a peg-legged PIRATE... Heeeeeeeeeeyarrrr!
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RE:MISC:Post Surgery Update posted by M on 4/21/2009 at 1:33:57 PM
Hi Larry,

I am still here! I am heartily glad to hear you are recovering gently. Do take it steady (more water with the JD).

The cardiologist could not find a problem but he hasn't given up yet. I will be having further tests on Thursday (good old NHS) and I have had a blood test for Thyroid problems as this could give similar symptoms. At least he hasn't thrown me out as a nutter. I do wonder if it is in my head (in a sinister manner). I await the results of tests.

Matthew - dodging the reaper's scythe
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AGE / VALUE:Cj Adie bell posted by: Mal Tyson on 4/18/2009 at 10:58:56 PM
Hi....have a AJ Adie and Nephew bell with the words STAR APPROVED on the top of it. Can anyone tell me a little about it please.
Mal

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RE:AGE / VALUE:Cj Adie bell posted by Steve on 4/19/2009 at 11:44:06 AM
Adie have been around for "donkeys years", I don't think they're in the same league as Lucas King of the Road etc etc, I do have a double sided rotating Adie here...it sounds like an ice cream van having an org**m, it's great fun, a bit tacky and frightens people away !

Steve - a bit naughty.
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Cj Adie bell posted by Warren on 4/20/2009 at 1:09:12 PM
An NOS King of the Road #32 just went for about $140 on ebay.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Cj Adie bell posted by Steve on 4/20/2009 at 3:51:44 PM
I got a "The Challis" last year for 10.00 (good deep solid reverberating ring), most of my bikes don't even cost 10 to buy.

You can only put a Challis on a heavy bike, anything less and it would tip it over !

You can't beat quality...mind you $140 is going some.

Steve
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Cj Adie bell posted by Chris on 4/20/2009 at 6:47:39 PM
It's a special and Holy and beautiful thing that sound of an Adie bell. I will write more tomorrow when I don't have to run. Chris
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MISC:The trend keeps growing... posted by: Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 4/18/2009 at 3:23:27 AM
My daughter just sent me this article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/fashion/16CODES.html?_r=1&8dpc


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RE:MISC:The trend keeps growing... posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/18/2009 at 6:46:50 AM
Interesting article. But they do completely miss the point that these "Dutch" bikes are... in fact modeled after the original and venerable English Roadsters.

AND.... if they did their homework, they would have found the same machines for sale at the Flying Pigeon dealership for about half the $1000 price tag their touting.

That being said... perhaps this does provide a bit of insight pursuant to the somewhat scary prices we've seen some machines going for on Ebay.

So... Vinc, et.al., when will you be loadin' up the truck and headin' to NYC to sell "Bargain" Dutch Bikes to the masses... for a paltry $750 each?

;-)

Not for nothing... it's kind of fun to see people "discover" what those of us in here have known for years.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Dutch? Not so much.
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RE:MISC:The trend keeps growing... posted by Kevin on 4/19/2009 at 4:31:58 AM
Yeee-ha! Finally, the New York fashion world has discovered old English bikes. That makes us all Trendy and Urbane. Just think, my $25 Raleigh Sports may now be worth $1,000! Hot damn, you all. I'm loadin' up the truck, too.
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RE:MISC:The trend keeps growing... posted by ken on 4/20/2009 at 10:35:03 AM
There is no place in the world more insular and parochial than NYC. However, we have to note that it was a fashion article, not a cycling article. We all know there's a reason that hasn't changed in a hundred years for everything on a utilitarian bike.
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RE:MISC:The trend keeps growing... posted by JS on 4/20/2009 at 8:46:22 PM
Actaully Larry, the going price for a Flying Pigeon in the US is $300, so less than a third of the price.

I wonder however, if bicycles becoming a "Fashion statement" is a good or bad thing. Fashion changes with the season and can often be seen as elitist, turning off as many people as it turns on.

In order for bikes to truly go mainstream, I think they will have to be viewed as an economic necessity, and for most of the western world, that is surely not the case, nor will it be soon, despite the most dire predictions.

Just some food for thought. Discuss amongst yourselves.

JS-

http://www.flyingpigeonproject.org
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RE:RE:MISC:The trend keeps growing... posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/21/2009 at 4:26:20 AM
>Actaully Larry, the going price for a Flying Pigeon in the
>US is $300, so less than a third of the price.

Certainly true... but I was thinking one that was tricked out as a 3-speed.

Hopefully, some day, I'll get to see one in person. It will be interesting to see the points of difference quality wise pursuant to the Abley.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Flying Pigeons in NYC... DUCK everyone!

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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Westrick rims posted by: Steve on 4/17/2009 at 3:28:39 AM
I don't see Westrick rims very often but, they always attract my eye when I see them, were they (or should I say are they) any good.

I've just acquired a 1950's pair off a probable doner machine but, sadly the front has a slight hole on the outer rim, and the rear is buckled.

A. Does one bother with trying to fix a small hole.

B. How far can a buckled rim go before it's regarded as being "unstraightenable" (this one's pretty bad) !

C. Were rod & caliper braked combined rims common, neat or was it just a clever ploy to kill two birds with one stone by the manufacturers ?

D. Should I sling them in the bin and go and make a cup of tea !

Westwood, Endrick...Westrick, I hope I've got the terminology correct !

Any comments gladly appreciated.

Steve
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Westrick rims posted by Keith Body on 4/17/2009 at 12:58:13 PM
hi Steve. The westrick was standard on most UK 26 x 1 3/8 Raleighs, some stainless. Slightly deeper well made tyres easier to change. The hole is probably caused by a dent being rubbed through by the brake. You may be able to fill the hole with some modern resin material, never tried it though. We always replaced bent rims, quick rebuild job, about 35 minutes to get the wheel back in the bike with new rim on.
Depends how bent, straightening hollow metal rims is not (or solid aluminium) easy. Is it more than loose/missing spokes?
Keith
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Westrick rims posted by Steve on 4/17/2009 at 3:46:42 PM
Keith, your correct regarding the hole...it was a dent that has been rubbed through by the brake, as the rim is pretty straight I will attempt to fill it.

The spokes (which look as though they've been replaced fairly recently) in the rear wheel were rediculously slack, difficult to tell whether rim has been kicked or the spokes were never tensioned properly in the first place, I will hang on to it for a while, something else to trip over now and again !

Meanwhile the tatty (and now mudguardless) 1950 "orange" Raleigh Sports has acquired my pretty smart 1955 stainless steel Westricks that I've had hidden away for a "special occasion" !

I've never known of an orange Raleigh Sports before, it might have been red at one time and has now faded to orange...it's got the decals on and looks original !

Steve - never a dull moment.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Spring and the roadsters are out! posted by: Geoff Rogers on 4/14/2009 at 10:41:17 AM
I work in Northampton, Massachusetts, and I am often amazed at how many old British bikes are still in use around here. Today I spotted a green Raleigh Glider, a green Sports, a gold Dunelt, a black Phillips, and I met the rider of a fifties lady's Humber. He told me that he loved the bike, but alas, the LBS owner told him it was time to trash it, because the bottom bracket was loose and he couldn't get parts for it! Imagine that. I told him, not so, his bike was built to last 150 years, and that I could supply him with good used BB parts, and I even have a few NOS cups if it comes to that. I also recommended that he find a different LBS. His bike is very ratty, and he likes it that way so it's not target for thieves. It does have the twin tube forks and Dyno lights, which work. I also spied a Raleigh Grand Prix and a Rudge 10-speed, plus an unidentified (ssen from a distance) red sports, definitely a Raleigh product of the sixties/early seventies. Today I am riding my 1960 Dunelt Fleur-de-Lys (not a roadster but very British), but my boss lets me keep a '52 Indian Scout in the archival storage room, just for emergencies. Spring is here, so ride on!
Geoff Rogers
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Spring and the roadsters are out! posted by Steve on 4/14/2009 at 3:50:54 PM
Well said Geoff,

I was out on my tatty Sunbeam today...it's nice to be different !

Steve
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Spring and the roadsters are out! posted by mark H on 4/14/2009 at 5:37:56 PM
yup out on my 52 phillips today its so ugly i cant stand it.but its silent and rides wonderful.it must have a zillion miles on it.when i got it the steel pedals were almost worn out.yay spring.


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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Spring and the roadsters are out! posted by mark H on 4/14/2009 at 5:40:44 PM
oops here is the pic


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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Spring and the roadsters are out! posted by greg on 4/15/2009 at 3:45:12 PM
My step daughter goes to UMass Amherst. Love going into Northampton & bikespotting when we visit. Like those guys hauling stuff around on those trailers,too.
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RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Spring and the roadsters are out! posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/15/2009 at 4:30:37 PM
LOL... yeah... right... I had FLURRIES here this AM. Usually by now, I've ridden the motorbike to work. Not happening thus far. Must be global warming.

As it stands... my season may not start 'til July... going for surgery on the right foot on Friday. Plantar Fasciotomy. 6 week recovery time... then.... we do the left. Another 6 weeks... and I'll be back at it.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - at least I'll have one to stand on.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Spring and the roadsters are out! posted by mark H on 4/15/2009 at 6:42:07 PM
wow boneman i have that in both feet but sometimes it kinda goes away.i remember working at a motorcycle shop ten years ago thinking what the hell is wrong with my feet?i couldnt barely walk.its like having a big tack stuck in your foot with a little room between it and the bone and when you step bam stuck right in the bone.hope you feel better!!thats mostly why i ride bicycles so much.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Spring and the roadsters are out! posted by Matthew on 4/16/2009 at 9:19:32 AM
Hi Larry,

Take care my man and get well soon. I am, fighting off some sort of cardio problem. They thought I had a stroke (TIA) on Sunday but I had not. Unsure what is going on but I am under a consultant so will get news soon - Monday. At 47 I consider myself too young to keel over.

Matthew - makes you think, we are all mortal.
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RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Spring and the roadsters are out! posted by Chris on 4/16/2009 at 5:27:21 PM
I hope you feel better soon and my thoughts are with you. - Christopher
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RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Spring and the roadsters are out! posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/16/2009 at 6:58:47 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes. TIA?!?!?!? YIKES! Follow up with that with all due diligence. MRI, PET, CAT... whatever it takes. BE VERY THOROUGH!!!! Don't know what your symptoms were but a Transient Ischemic Attack is one thing.... they're difficult to diagnose as the cause can be very elusive. And... TIA can emulate many other things... even something as simple as a minor absent seizure.

And yes.... 47 it too early for that... but then I thought 35 was far and away too young to be diagnosed with arthritis.... and that... was 14 years ago :-S

THAT... was 14 years ago.

Here's the procedure I undergo tomorrow... it's a bit graphic so if you're not up for that sort of thing... don't clicky the link.

http://www.podiatrytoday.com/article/6296

Will post an update as soon as I'm able... and again thanks for the well wishes!!!

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - walking like a (classic buccaneer) pirate?????
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by: Laurence Peter on 4/11/2009 at 4:58:43 PM
While riding this past week, I noticed an odd sound coming from the bottom bracket. Wanting to try the most simple solution first, I elected to lube it.

Big problem!

I ordered the 'famous' Phil's Tenacious Oil' and then attempted to put the oil in the bottom bracket - and rear SA AW hub.

How the !@@#$%$%%^^ do you get the oil in the ridiculously small port holes!? Am I doing something wrong here? Are those port holes really for decorative effect and the real port holes somewhere else???

Fellow English Roadster afficiandos: Any suggestions?

Laurence Peter
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by sam on 4/11/2009 at 7:02:39 PM
For the hub,now you know why I say buy sewing maching oil ---it has a Zoom spout or small tube that pulls out about 6 inches long and goes right in the oiler hole.
Your Bb may have a grease fitting ---some do.If and oil flip top the zoom spout would also work their.If it has the ball barring topped oiler you need an oil can with a metal spout or again a sewing machine oil can
And remember--oil alone does not replace re-building and greasing the hub or BB
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RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by Warren on 4/11/2009 at 8:13:43 PM
Use Phil's Tenacious oil sparingly on your chain only. It's great for adverse winter and wet riding. A light straight grade machine oil is for the AW hub port (not Phils) and as Sam suggests, rebuild the bottom bracket and all hub bearings with grease. Oil ports disappeared from hubs and BB's for good reasons.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by Matthew on 4/12/2009 at 2:11:54 AM
Hi Laurence,

The bottom bracket is not a sealed unit and therefore will not hold oil. The BB should be packed with grease when assesmsbled and then rebuilt ditto every 10 years or so (depending upon use).

If you BB has reached the stage at which it is making unpleasant noises then it must be stripped and rebuilt.

No matter what grade oil you use, it will not last in the BB.

Rear hub; use very light oil although the general concencus here is that a good motor oil is ideal. Sewing machine oil is better than no oil but it is s trifle too thin.

Matthew - its a viscosity problem.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by Kevin on 4/12/2009 at 6:50:28 PM
A quick and simple approach would be to take the seat post off and squirt some heavy weight automotive differential oil into the frame tube. It is sticky and it will cling to the bearings down in the bottom bracket much better than oil, with little leakage.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by David on 4/13/2009 at 5:04:37 AM
Kevin's approach (send some gear oil down the seat tube) seems likely only to put oil on the center portion of the spindle, but not to lubricate the bearings. I doubt you're going to have any real or lasting improvement until you take apart the BB and repack it. Use new ball bearings and good grease when you do it. It's not hard. Use SAE 20 oil (if you can find it) in the hub, unless you live in a warm climate. SAE 30 will thicken when cold and gum the pawls when it's cold (maybe doesn't matter now that spring is here). Good luck.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by Kevin on 4/13/2009 at 1:41:07 PM
My approach, though not exactly kosher, does work. If you mix grease and thin oil in a small container, you will see that oil as light as 20-weight dilutes the grease so much that it no longer functions as grease at all. Soon, you'e back to bearings protected only by light oil. The differential lube has "cling" and is made to stick to gears that are under far more heat and stress than you will ever find in a bicycle bottom bracket.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by Mark on 4/13/2009 at 10:45:24 PM
I bought a small squeeze trigger oil can at the auto parts store for six bucks or so, works fine, this was the same questioin i had, the above suggested by Mark at Bikesmithdesign
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by David on 4/14/2009 at 6:49:58 AM
Kevin - it's not clear how or why the oil that goes down the seat tube and coats the center of the BB spindle will migrate out beyond the races of the spindle and coat the ball bearings in any useful amount. (And if it does, why will it not carry crud with it?)
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by Kevin on 4/14/2009 at 3:12:40 PM
It's an incredible mystery, David. Maybe all that spinning metal distributes heavy oil better than you and I can imagine. I have been riding the same 1952 Raleigh Sports since 1987 without ever opening the bottom bracket. If you prefer grease, go for it.
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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by Kevin on 4/14/2009 at 3:12:40 PM
It's an incredible mystery, David. Maybe all that spinning metal distributes heavy oil better than you and I can imagine. I have been riding the same 1952 Raleigh Sports since 1987 without ever opening the bottom bracket. If you prefer grease, go for it.
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RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by Warren on 4/14/2009 at 7:16:19 PM
I can see how gravity will distribute the oil evenly and break down any grease. As long as you keep adding oil and cleaning it occasionally it should be hunky dory.

I have some custom tandem track hubs made by the famous Doc Morton that were designed to run with just a light coating of oil. There's no seals to hold in grease and the bearings are almost completely exposed. Works fine for a climate controlled indoor heat. I would guess that the spinning bearings in a BB would keep the oil contained as well.

Hmmmnn.


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RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by mark H on 4/15/2009 at 11:12:41 AM
those track hubs are really really fine.they are now my computer screen main photo.thanks for posting these!at least i can imagine what i would build with a set of those[dreaming]
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RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lubriacation for 1959 Rudge posted by Warren on 4/15/2009 at 2:20:24 PM
Glad you like them. These are one-piece turned aluminum hubs from the late 30's. Doc Morton built frames and components for some of the worlds top six day racing teams back in the day.
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AGE / VALUE:Rescued racer! posted by: Stephen Hogben on 4/10/2009 at 1:06:03 PM
Today pulled a Raleigh "Riva" racing bike out of a skip (Dumpster)just beat the Gypsy who was collecting scrap metal,no get off its mine,all mine,all it is missing is it's saddle! It is extremely light,rat traps on the pedals etc etc.The badge says made in Nottingham,seems rather small,maybe a boys bike.Will do it up a bit and give it a ride.What year did Raleigh go bust,I think it was in the 80,s.Matthew got a picture of the Chertsey one! will try to post it soon.Happy Easter all!
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