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MISC:   OldRoads Update posted by: Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles on 11/20/2008 at 9:09:15 AM
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           RE:MISC:   OldRoads Update posted by sam on 11/20/2008 at 9:46:48 AM
For all the work Vin&crew have put into this site---glad to hear it's giving ya'll a return.---sam
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My original 1959 Rudge posted by: Laurence Peter on 11/19/2008 at 7:29:24 PM
I acquired an all-original 1959 Rudge 3 speed some months ago and - honestly - I'm having the time of my life riding, reading about and upgrading it! So...I'd like to share my experiences with this group..

I did my requisite reading and research - especially from Sheldon Brown (May he rest in peace) regarding all things English three-speed.

I looked on the internet and pulled up a terrific website where I spotted a vintage all-original 1959 maroon 3-speed Rudge Sport in excellent condition.

It came equipped with a coaster brake - a TCW III hub.

I was hooked. Remember what was happening in 1959? This was to be my 'wayback' machine' as in every time I ride it, I go wayback to being 11, President Eisenhower, 5th grade...

A couple of points: I bought the bike specifically TO RIDE -NOT to look at; and I really did not like the coaster brake hub so I knew that was going to be changed.

My goal, then, was to obtain an AW hub from ebay and swap out the AW for the TCW. On second thought, though, I didn't want to destroy the integrity of the original set-up of this superb bike. So....I decided instead to build up new wheelsets and get a rear brake.

Here's where I had some philosphical questions relating to a vintage bike: What kind of upgrades and how much of an upgrade before destroying the integrity of the bike - which is to say the 'look and feel' of a 1959 English three-speed, before becoming a contemporary 'hot rod'?

Here's what I decided:

Any upgraded component should match as much as posible the original. So the original 26 X 1 3/8 steel rims should be replaced with the same size rims although not neccesarily of the same material. In this case I went from a steel to aluminum alloy rims. I would have liked to preserve the 40/32 spoke set-up that the original wheelset had but finding hubs with that number of spokes proved impossible. The rims were available but not the hubs.

I went with a 1970 36-spoke AW hub from ebay for the rear. In the front, I used a 1950's Phillips replacement hub with a grease port. I used Wheelsmith db spokes.

As part of the hub upgrade, I chose to also lower the gearing which was 18 rear and 48 front. These were impossible high gears for me so I chose a 22 tooth sprocket. This gave me a very rideable cadence.

Perfect!

So I preserved all the original componentry for posterity if someone would be inclined to show it off later.

I went to ebay again to purchase the rear brake. As luck would have it, a 1950's Phillips rear brake with ribbed cable was offered and I purchased it for placement on the bike. Again, I tried to respect the intergrity of this vintage 1950's bike.

What else? How about a new B66 saddle to replace the aging and sagging B72 Brooks saddle? AND A NOS set of 1950's Raleigh torpedo grips to complete the ensemble?

Future upgrades

At this point, I've decided to live with the modifications that I've already made but that some more upgrades might remain in the fuiture. Specifically, I may upgrade the crankset, going from a 48 tooth chainring with a cottered crank to a 44 tooth ring cotterless crankset. Don't know if I want to pursue this though if only because I feel this may compromise the integrity of the riding experience.

Also the brakes may be due for an overhaul. Perhaps the salmon colored Kool Stops for the underperforming John Bulls! Don't know about this yet.

Enjoy some of the pictures of the original set up that I've posted. Will try and post pix of upgrades I've made later.


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My original 1959 Rudge posted by laurence Peter on 11/19/2008 at 8:06:38 PM
OK, here's the upgrades to the originaol 1959 Rudge. The tires are Schwalbe Whitewalls; upgraded the original Raleigh Stem to a Nitto Technomic.


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My original 1959 Rudge posted by Warren on 11/20/2008 at 3:15:19 PM
You're building a bike to ride so the extent to which you want to keep it "original" is up to you and only you. Purists shudder at the swapping out of the wheelset, or stems. A good compromise is to take pics of the original bike and keep all the parts so you can return it to original condition.

I'm surprised you found 32/40 alloy rims...the hubs come up often. Many of us keep old SA hubs in a box somewhere.

Bike people on this website tend to be flexible so don't sweat it. Ride that Rudge...it's really a beautiful bike.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My original 1959 Rudge posted by Kevin on 11/22/2008 at 6:01:56 AM
Laurence -- Great job and beautiful bike. You are unusual in that you appreciate originality, and are saving all the pieces to make the bike stock again for the next owner. Nothing you are doing to it is irreversible, so enjoy the ride! I wish more bike owners were that conscientious.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My original 1959 Rudge posted by mark on 11/25/2008 at 1:23:57 AM
what a beauty.very nice lines this rudge.similiar to my 52 phillips.which is my 4 or 5 times a day daily rider.nice upgrades.
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AGE / VALUE:   Yes they did make them posted by: sam on 11/19/2008 at 5:56:24 PM
Check out ebay# 180306433896

was originaly sold as a replacement or repaires for an English bike
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Yes they did make them posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 11/20/2008 at 3:31:00 AM
I'll be darned. If not for the fact that I want to put a 3-speed hub in the Abley, that would make for an excellent choice!

Thanks for pointing it out!

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - I could use a brake....
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AGE / VALUE:   Leather saddle storage in winter posted by: Kevin on 11/19/2008 at 5:13:34 AM
I have several bikes with Brooks saddles, and I was wondering if I am hurting the leather by leaving them in an unheated garage all winter. It gets down to 10-below zero F here sometimes. Any thoughts on this?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Leather saddle storage in winter posted by Geoff Rogers on 11/19/2008 at 12:00:57 PM
I have a garage full of cycles with Brooks and Wrights leather saddles, and I don't worry about them in cold weather (western Massachusetts, often -10 F here, too). I do worry about riding on the really oldest, fragile ones when it's really cold, as things do get brittle; but then, so does the rider when it's really cold, so I take the car then or stay home!
Much worse than cold weather is getting the thing wet and then drying it in hot sun. That will ruin any leather object (including my own skin!).
Geoff
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Leather saddle storage in winter posted by Warren on 11/19/2008 at 9:13:41 PM
Just keep your eye on them for mold or fungi. It will spread to other saddles if kept in a single container. The cold may actually be good for them.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Leather saddle storage in winter posted by Kevin on 11/21/2008 at 4:32:00 PM
Thanks, guys -- you saved me some unnecessary work.
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AGE / VALUE:    posted by: S.H. on 11/17/2008 at 3:23:30 PM
Greez I am currently restoring a 1934 Philips gents bike,so maybe I can help!I have a 1936 Brookes saddle,could do with a bit of attention,or a re cover maybe,but you are very welcome to it if you want it.No charge, free, gratis!Steve.
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AGE / VALUE:    posted by: S.H. on 11/17/2008 at 3:23:30 PM
Greez I am currently restoring a 1934 Philips gents bike,so maybe I can help!I have a 1936 Brookes saddle,could do with a bit of attention,or a re cover maybe,but you are very welcome to it if you want it.No charge, free, gratis!Steve.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by Stephen Hogben on 11/19/2008 at 4:21:02 PM
Greez If you tell me a P.O. box number or some other way of posting it to you will send to you.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by: Florian Widmer on 11/16/2008 at 12:18:43 PM
I'm restoring a Phillips Deluxe 1948 Roadster.
I would like to know which parts of my bicycle are still original. Therefore I'm looking for a picture of the phillips deluxe 1948 in the original status.

Thanks for information!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Na on 11/16/2008 at 12:38:32 PM
Hi Florian,

Let us know what equipment you have on the bike and that will help us all to advise you.

Matthew - mostly useful info.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Florian Widmer on 11/16/2008 at 12:53:28 PM
What kind of equipment do you mean?

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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Steve on 11/16/2008 at 2:54:47 PM
Any chance of a good photo of the Phillips you are restoring ?

I have a basic ladies Phillips (not a Roadster) waiting patiently in the restoration queue.

Steve - comparing notes
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Matthew on 11/16/2008 at 3:00:32 PM
Hi Florian,

Brakes, dynamo, lamps, three speed rear hub (they are dated), saddle, any other extra, rack etc. All of these are useful for dating etc.

Matthew - it's in the detail
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Florian Widmer on 11/16/2008 at 3:51:37 PM
good evening

@steve: I will do some pictures of my bike tomorrow.

@Matthew: it's a little difficult for me to describe the parts, because my native language is swiss german. So I don't know the technical term of each part. Maybe you can help me when I upload the pictures.
On the gear hub, is the number 48. The chain guard is a full closed one. The dynamo has the trade mark Luzifer(Swiss made). And the lamp is a phoebus. (I don't know if you know these Swiss parts). Brakes are with rods connected to the brake blocks. And the brake blocks are pulling directly to the rim from center outward the wheel. The saddle is not original do you know the right one? Maybe a brooks? Yes there is a rack, which is very massive built. The color of the bike is black with red and golden lines. And with the phillips writing on the chain guard.

Thanks for help!

Greez Florian
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by mark on 11/16/2008 at 9:06:15 PM
i have a 1952 phillips roadster,cable brakes,phillips chainring.i am interested in seeing the lucifer generator.my original seat was a padded plastic one.i got it from the original owner,he said it had probably 50 thousand miles on it.im still riding it everyday.rides perfect.i keep it tuned up though.i thought i had better pictures.i will take some tomorrow.


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Steve on 11/17/2008 at 2:25:47 AM
Oops !


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Steve on 11/17/2008 at 2:32:08 AM
Sorry for above, I was having trouble with cut & paste.

I know it's not a Roadster, but the badge should be similar.

You should have seen it before I restored it !

Steve - distant relative
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Florian Widmer on 11/17/2008 at 1:28:15 PM
Hey there!

Thanks for the pictures. Now I know that my front badge isn't original. Because my bike is from Birmingham too. Would one of you sell his/her frontbadge to me?
I haven't had time yet to take the pictures. I'll upload them as soon as possible ;-) And of course one of the dynamo too.

Florian
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by mark on 11/17/2008 at 2:21:48 PM
the headbadge is worth more than the bike?id hate to rip it off.i dont think there worth much anyways.i have seen reproductions for 25 bucks somewhere.i cant remember where.hhmm.i would trade a few things for a enclosed beaten chaincase though.the owner took the one off my bike because it was hard to change tires,he worked in a metal shop and had flats all the time.so off it went.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Florian on 11/17/2008 at 3:20:24 PM
Hi mark!

I've seen the same enclosed chaincase as on my 1948 Phillips at a vintage shop. But for 100 CHFr./$

http://www.box.net/shared/g9vi4csook
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Steve on 11/17/2008 at 4:19:12 PM
Hi Florian, I couldn't remove the badges (yes there's one on the rear mudguard also) off the bike as it would look awful when it's restored with no badges.
Badges do appear on eBay from time to time (including Phillips), keep an eye out for one.

Steve - renown......
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Florian on 11/18/2008 at 7:47:57 AM
Hello!

Here the Link to the pictures!

http://www.box.net/shared/8s96v24dle

Florian
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Florian on 11/19/2008 at 8:04:08 AM
I'm still interested in which Parts of my Bicycle are original.
Look at the pictures please:P

Greez Florian
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by mark on 11/19/2008 at 10:25:18 AM
hello greez,i wasnt implying trading a badge for a chaincase.im well aware what there worth,i have seen pretty good enclosed chaincases for 25 plus shipping,i have quite a few parts for phillips fenders,handlebars,seats.brakes.the site that has your photos locks up my computer.i suggest looking at period correct photos.good luck.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Matthew on 11/19/2008 at 12:14:38 PM
Hi Florian,

look at eBay UK, Item number: 300274579847

Its what you are looking for, I think?

Matthew - wheeling more than dealing.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by Florian on 11/20/2008 at 1:46:20 AM
Yes this is what I'm searching for:D

Thanks!

Below the uploaded pictures;-)

Florian


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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Picture of Phillips Roadster 1948 searched posted by hector gonzalez on 12/4/2008 at 5:51:35 PM
hi,i have a phillips 28"tire doble bar,i want to now what year is this the serial number is:3565168,thanks
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MISC:   More Chinese Bikes on My Blog posted by: JS on 11/14/2008 at 9:23:20 AM
Guys-

I have uploaded lot's of new pics on Chines brake rod roadsters to my blog. Take a look and let me know what you think.

JS

http://www.flyingpigeonproject.org
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           RE:MISC:   More Chinese Bikes on My Blog posted by sam on 11/14/2008 at 7:41:21 PM
Flying Pigeon was a roadster built in China under License from Legnano
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           RE:RE:MISC:   More Chinese Bikes on My Blog posted by Chris on 11/15/2008 at 7:22:18 AM
Legnano was/ is a Famous and well loved Italian bicycle maker who produced road bikes as well as rod brake roadster bicycles.

I'll take a look at the site.
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           RE:MISC:   More Chinese Bikes on My Blog posted by mark on 11/15/2008 at 7:55:41 AM
i think i like the site,makes me want to go to bejing,and be a bicycle mechanic!im not joking either.great video at the velodrome.side by side comparisons were excellent hi tech and standard.far from standard.my rod braked roadster brings calmness everywhere.my friend who is a mechanic was stressed out at work,took my hercules for a ride.he said he never felt so calm,he couldnt get over it.that will tell you something!
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           RE:MISC:   More Chinese Bikes on My Blog posted by Steve on 11/15/2008 at 2:16:16 PM
Riding a rod braked roadster is a bit special, it puts everything into perspective.

Well it does for me anyhow !

Steve - in relaxed mood/mode.
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           RE:MISC:   More Chinese Bikes on My Blog posted by Stephen Hogben on 11/15/2008 at 4:55:28 PM
You can,t beat a "Rodder"
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           RE:MISC:   More Chinese Bikes on My Blog posted by JS on 11/15/2008 at 7:11:36 PM
Thanks for the comments on the site.

Can someone site a source for the Legnano connection? I have not heard of this before, and I have read a lot of info on FP. I'd be interested in investigating it more. I have also heard it was based on Raleigh, but it is a side pull machine, not a center pull, like most Raleighs

The FP factory of course maintains that their design was from a clean sheet of paper which I would not discount either. Because, if you want to design a brake rod roadster, there are only so many ways to do it, so it is sure to share qualities with other bikes.
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           RE:RE:MISC:   More Chinese Bikes on My Blog posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 11/17/2008 at 4:36:28 PM
Neat stuff as always. It must be most interesting to be surrounded by a plethora of rodders....

BTW... saw amongst the pictures the downtube with "KAPOK" proudly emblazoned. Gave me a chuckle as back in the days of yore... the plant "kapok" was used to fill life vests.

I don't think that bike would float!

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - They're seemingly everywhere!
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           RE:RE:MISC:   More Chinese Bikes on My Blog posted by sam on 11/17/2008 at 8:18:41 PM
Can someone site a source for the Legnano connection?

From the book:Bicycles Le Biciclette,By Termo Galbiati & Nino Ciravegna.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh LTD-3 with Rigida Rims? posted by: Joe on 11/13/2008 at 3:32:50 AM
I picked up a pair of LTD 3 bikes the other day, a his and her's pair. Both have 2/74 rear hubs, and Rigida steel rims.
Both say Nottingham on the head badge and rear fender, both appear 100% original in every way, and both top tubes say Made in England.

Did they use some Rigida rims on these? My other two LTD 3 models have Sturmey Archer or Dunlop rims, but I do have a near mint Hercules with Rigida rims, and a Holland built Sports with the same.


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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh LTD-3 with Rigida Rims? posted by Matthew on 11/13/2008 at 11:26:36 AM
Hi Joe,

Like most manufacturers, Raleigh sourced parts on quality, quantity and price. Rigida certainly supplied rims to them at times. There is no reason to think that the rims on your bike are anything but original.

Matthew - on the perifery
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh LTD-3 with Rigida Rims? posted by Geoff Rogers on 11/13/2008 at 1:38:36 PM
I am not so sure. Rigida rims were commonly used by bike shops to replace damaged originals, but I do not think Raleigh outsourced rims as long ago as 1974, when they owned Sturmey-Archer and could make them in-house. It does seem strange, however, that both bikes have Rigidas. Maybe I'm wrong.
Geoff Rogers
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh LTD-3 with Rigida Rims? posted by Matthew on 11/13/2008 at 2:52:59 PM
Hi Geoff,

I may equally be wrong but I know we had a bike in the family fleet, probably a Raleigh Esquire, Transit or maybe a Caprice which certainly had Rigida rims. It would not have had replacement rims and we never snet bikes to the bike shop for repairs.

Matthew - possibly incorrect.
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           RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh LTD-3 with Rigida Rims? posted by Warren on 11/13/2008 at 3:57:09 PM
I've got a couple of those rims. One says Raleigh - Made in France...the horror. The other is stamped Rigida - Made in France. But both of mine are 597 EA1 rims. Check the size.

I'm with Geoff...those rims appeared in the 80's when the quality was in a slide. I salvaged one of those EA1 rims off of a womens Sports, made in Canada. Royal blue with alloy crankset and stem. Normally alloy is a good thing but not on this bike...ugh.

It's possible they were swapped in.
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           RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh LTD-3 with Rigida Rims? posted by Joe on 11/13/2008 at 11:00:53 PM
These rims are standard 590 Diameter, with Raleigh Record tires in black wall.
I've seen a few of the off brands with Rigida but these are the first with them on a Raleigh branded bike.
I was actually surprised when I saw the hub dates with those rims, I was expecting to see late 70's or later.
They don't look like they've ever had a wrench taken to them, not a mark anywhere, not even a chain adjustment or cable history present. The ribbed grips, Raleigh pedals, and tires all look fairly new, the men's bike has a few flat spots on the rear tire as if a kid did a few power slides with it but other than that, no wear.
The fenders are all perfect other than the paint being a bit rough. There is no surface rust, or I should say none that didn't wipe off with an oily rag. One pedal has some road rash on the cap.

I've seen a lot of those Rigida EA1 rims, most were on either French 3 speeds, or on club type bikes. I have a few pretty early ones. I have another bike, also sporting a 1974 dated hub, a Hercules AMF with what appears to be Rigida rims, they are marked identical to the ones on this LTD but they lack the Rigida logo. All of the rest of the rim is identical. That bike is marked made in England as well. I have a few Rigida rims on of a Holland made bike, That one is badged a Raleigh Sports, but has the made in Holland decal as on a Grand Prix, and a plain head badge missing the Nottingham wording.
That one has serrated sidewall rims, but they are a different pattern serration than that of the common replacement Rigida or the serrated Sturmey Archer rims.
I've got a few new old stock Rigida EA1 rims that I've been saving for a project, I found them at a nearby bike shop about 8 years ago. They have a slightly different appearance too than the standard Rigida rims, and are a bit narrower.

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           RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh LTD-3 with Rigida Rims? posted by Warren on 11/14/2008 at 3:49:18 PM
Then we've got a data point...earliest known example of Raleigh outsourcing rims. It makes sense they would use an LTD since it was entry level.

I've also got a Michelin EA1 Zig Zag tire stamper Made in England. I should build up a wheel with the english Michelin tire, french Raleigh rim and a pacific rim Sturmey 3 speed hub. Globalism indeed.
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           RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh LTD-3 with Rigida Rims? posted by Joe on 11/15/2008 at 5:38:46 PM
It would make sense that the lower end model got the lesser rims, but I don't think it really hurt the bikes quality any, the Rigida rims seem to be in great shape after all these years while I have many with the Raleigh pattern rims which show considerable chrome wear and pitting after what I would judge as fairly minor use. Just about every pair of Raleigh pattern rims I've got have chrome wear or discoloration on the braking surface, the same goes for those with the Dunlop or Sturmey Archer rims. However, I've seen plenty of French made Rigida rims rust away from the inside out. I hate to say it but the overall paint quality on this bike reminds me of a French bike, with thin paint over a poorly prepped surface with signs of surface rust showing through. My Sports models don't have those problems. Especially those in colors other than black.
The ladies bike of this pair has better paint overall then does the men's bike but not by much.
One thing I do seem to remember most about the Rigida rims is that they tended to flat spot easier than other steel rims, (the same for their alloy rims too). These luckily have absolutely perfect wheels.

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           RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh LTD-3 with Rigida Rims? posted by Warren on 11/16/2008 at 8:11:05 AM
I'm not dissing the Rigida rims...at least you can still buy them today. It was likely a time of turmoil at Raleigh. Dunlop had left them some years earlier and Sturmey rim production had to be ramped up to cover production. Rigida likely had to fill a some gap for them.

Chrome from the 50's seems to be the best quality. Of course thay were able to uses toxic brews that are illegal today. It's a shame they just didn't use stainless for everything. I have a pair of lightweight stainless rims that are almost too nice to build up.


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           RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh LTD-3 with Rigida Rims? posted by Joe on 11/17/2008 at 12:24:01 AM
I've yet to run across a pair of those stainless rims.
I've heard of them and seen pics but never laid my hands on a pair.
Being in an area with moderate salt air exposure finding good steel rims is pretty rare. They're either rusted beyond use or worn down badly from dirt and sand getting in the break pads.
Rigida rims used to be the go to steel rim back in the day around here, they were cheap and plentiful. They were common on French bikes and could be had dirt cheap in quantity. I've also seen rims marked Barretta on a few Holland built bikes, but I can't say if they were original on not since those bikes came to me in a lot. They look identical to the Rigida rims but say made in Italy or nothing at all. If there were no brand markings, they would appear identical to the Rigida EA3 rims. I have a set of those that came to me on a mid 70's Sprite, another on a Gazelle, and a pair on a Burger ENR which is a Raleigh Sports copy but with a much more layed back frame design.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Green green painted roadster posted by: Matthew on 11/12/2008 at 12:18:18 PM
Here,s a question,from Stephen Hogben 'On the way to work the other day I drove past an old "rodder" (late for work) so could not stop,it was being furiously pedalled by some youngster,and it was bright green!Probably hand painted again,but was there ever a marque painted green?

The Robin Hood marque were often green as were Hoppers and I can't quite recall whether the Imp was a Hopper model or a make in its own right but that too was green. The green of Raleigh Lenton sports was quite bright but I am not aware of any livid green paint as original on rod brakes roadsters.

Matthew - green as grass
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Green green painted roadster posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 11/13/2008 at 3:52:02 AM
I know that Phillips had a deep green colour on a rod brake roadster... I just missed winning it on the 'Bay a few years back.

Bright green? Hmmm... I wouldn't think so... but then... one never knows.

What's kind of fun are the plethora of bright, un-conventional colours the Flying Pigeons are available in.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - Brighter shades of pale?
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1 the DL-1 posted by: Thom J. on 11/12/2008 at 11:28:04 AM
I was victorious with the e-bay outing that Larry had given me the heads-up on. Am still coming to grips with paying the amount I did but it really looks to be a great bike. Anyway, on to my questions. First, the saddle is not the original. Should I replace it with a Brooks B72 or another type of Brooks? Secondly, it doesn't have a rear rack. Should I hunt down a vintage rack or would it be advisable to leave it without one? Thx in advance for all your input. Thom.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1 the DL-1 posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 11/12/2008 at 12:24:41 PM
Firstly... Congrats! on getting the machine. I'm sure you'll enjoy it immensely!

I believe mine has a Brooks B-17 on it... and no rear rack at all. I rather like it that way but I think a nice pletcher... if you can find one with long enough stays... would look nice on there.

I also put a 22T rear sprocket on mine... not necessary for flatland riding... but a must for the hills of the Pocono Mountains where I reside.

Best of luck with it and do let us know how you like it.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - that's another DL - WON!
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1 the DL-1 posted by mark on 11/12/2008 at 2:09:28 PM
about racks.congradulations on your purchase,the money thing will go away quickly if you ride the bike and enjoy it.i missed out on a free toolkit on the road the other day,when i went back it was gone.the container would not stay shut and had no handle,so i couldnt carry it home.i live in a very hilly area and would be next to impossible to carry.having no rack limits your availability?to pick up things.but i cant seem to want to put one on my hercules,i have a 1952 phillips workhorse for that.great purchase you made.there is not many dl-1s around for sale.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1 the DL-1 posted by Geoff Rogers on 11/13/2008 at 1:46:19 PM
Earlier DL1s often had B66 saddles or even B73 (three coil springs). The ones from the 70s usually had a B72. They are all great, all comfortable, but the more coil springs, the cushier the ride. At least the last time I checked, the 72 and 66 were the same price.
Geoff
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1 the DL-1 posted by Thom J. on 11/14/2008 at 9:56:51 AM
Thanks guys for all your good wishes and input. I'm leaning toward a B66 but will wait for a while to buy one. Although the bike is in great shape, I'm going through it in detail to lube, clean and polish it up before assembly. The guy who sold it did a masterfull job in putting a bike of this size into a standard bike size shipping carton. It arrived yesterday via DHL (two total shipping days from the east coast) in excellent condition. I'll post some pics when I get it all together. Thx again, Thom.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1 the DL-1 posted by Thom J. on 11/14/2008 at 10:00:34 AM
P.S.- My wife is PO'd that I bought another "junking old bike for how much"? The costs for her hair, nails etc doesn't seem to hold as an off-setting argument. Guess I'll be in the dog house for a few days. Thom.
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1 the DL-1 posted by Steve on 11/15/2008 at 2:21:23 PM
Oh well, such is life !

Steve - kennel club member
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           RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1 the DL-1 posted by Thom J. on 11/17/2008 at 10:24:30 AM
All better now. Sold an old 27" Araya wheelset, tires and other misc parts over the weekend. Gave the proceeds to my wife. She's happy....I'm happy. Almost sold the Univega....guess I'll have to drop the price again. Thom.
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AGE / VALUE:   information and pictures posted by: Tom Barone on 11/12/2008 at 5:36:48 AM
I have just aquired a 1946 Schwinn Paramount Track Bike that is 100% original. The bike is in like new condition. Where can i find out information and pictures of these bikes as they were advertised when new? Any information of this vintage bike would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   information and pictures posted by Tom on 11/12/2008 at 6:00:07 AM
I may have requested this information wrong. I beleive this is Chicago built Schwinn -- excuse the mis -post
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   information and pictures posted by Mark on 11/12/2008 at 6:09:10 AM
http://www.waterfordbikes.com/site/company/para_series.php

This site should tell you anything you want to know about your bike. They are also good about answering specfic questions and return emails promptly.

Good find, and please let me know if you want to sell it in the future.
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FOR SALE:   1956 Hopper posted by: mc on 11/11/2008 at 10:10:31 PM
Selling a 1956 Hopper ladies cruiser, 3 speed S/A, complete & correct original, skirtguard still intact. A bit rough but restorable. Pics on request. Make offer.
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WANTED:   60s Raleigh Sprite 5 speed parts posted by: mc on 11/11/2008 at 10:02:27 PM
Need a few parts for a 60s era Raleigh Sprite 5 speed cruiser including upright bar, grips, 5 speed top tube mounted shifter and pedals. If you can help me out, please let me know. Pics are a plus
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AGE / VALUE:   old roads. com t shirt progress? posted by: Chris on 11/11/2008 at 7:20:55 PM
Hey Vin, and the gang, where are we on the t shirt? hows it going?

chris
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   old roads. com t shirt progress? posted by Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles on 11/12/2008 at 4:39:23 AM
It looks like we're pretty close to being done with the design on one side (see link).
Still need to finalize the other side.
The colors will be a black shirt with yellow ink.
I'm talking to a couple shirt companies to find out costs and how they need the artwork.

-Vin


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