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LOWRIDERS:   Rat Fink posted by: AviationMetalSmith on 4/22/2004 at 1:58:44 PM
I saw a lowrider at the local bike pro shop yesterday. It's called the Rat Fink. Has anyone else heard of this bike? It has the stretch I am looking for, plus a chopper fork. It only comes in green (with flames). It is a three speed and it costs $530.00.
I would like to see a review from someone else before I purchase one.

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          RE:LOWRIDERS:   Rat Fink posted by JimW. on 4/23/2004 at 1:06:35 AM
It's not a lowrider. They call it a "kustom-style stretch chopper", or something like that. Most user reports I've heard say it isn't worth the money. For example, Nirve has a very similarly-proportioned 3-speed machine- the Cannibal, on the way for less money. Of course, if you want something with Ed Roth cachet, in spite of the fact that "Big Daddy" was dead a long time before anyone at Electra thought of the bike, go for it.

Product Development people at every major bike company, and many minor ones have been watching "American Chopper" on TV, and studying BikeRod&Kustom on the web. They all have bikes of this type coming out this summer and fall, including Schwinn's adult-sized new Stingray chopper. Unless I was totally without a bike at this moment, and was desperate to have one, I think I'd hold off on buying until I saw what else was available a little later.

As far as the bike industry is concerned "Kustom" is now the big trend to ride. This will be followed by aftermarket parts galore, as all the aftermarket people jump on the bandwagon. We're at the dawn of parts paradise for bike kustomizers. It's going to be very much as it was in the '60s, except this time around it's going to be stuff for adults, rather than kids.

The new BR&K will be out very soon. We'll have photos of most of the new stuff. The current issue's Off The Rack has been updated recently, with the kiddy-sized Stingray added.

Have fun!


          RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Rat Fink posted by AviationMetalSmith on 4/24/2004 at 1:53:45 PM
www.electrabike.com is another bike I've been considering, but the Townie's $820 price is more than the $530 for the Rat Fink.
A full size Schwinn Stingray for adults? Why didn't they think of that years ago?!?
I think the scooter craze is going to create a market for all those who ougrew their scooters and is looking for a real bike.

          RE:RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Rat Fink posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/24/2004 at 7:05:04 PM
They did. The Schwinn "Manta Ray". Similar setup to the Stingray but on a larger scale. They didn't sell well and hence are somewhat rare.

Regards!

Larry "Boneman" Bone

          RE:RE:RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Rat Fink posted by AviationMetalSmith on 4/27/2004 at 1:42:11 PM
Thanx for the reply ,Boneman.
I want to state for the record that I had a Ross Baracuda when I was growing up. Baracuda was Ross's answer to the stingray.(there mustv'e been some allusion to that popular 70's TV series,"the undersea world of Jaques Cousteu"- In which divers from the ship ,Calypso, were photographing fish like STINGRAYS & BARACUDAS, for the enjoyment of millions watching at home on their color Televisions.)

          RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Rat Fink posted by JimW. on 4/29/2004 at 12:38:16 AM
The Barracuda and Stingray names are allusions to car models- Plymouth Barracuda and Corvette Stingray. These performance-car labels and the stick shifters and other car themed components are why this class of bikes developed the generic term "muscle bikes", from the "muscle cars" of the same period.

          RE:LOWRIDERS:   Rat Fink posted by cbad16 on 5/26/2004 at 1:59:30 PM
I just recently purchased thie rat fink and am very pleased with the bike. It is basically the color that makes the bike stand out. Anytime someone has seen it they instantly smile. It may be a little over priced but worth the money in the long run

          RE:LOWRIDERS:   Rat Fink posted by Rustycat on 6/10/2004 at 9:04:59 PM
Rat fink was a muscle car comic strip wasn't it?

          RE:LOWRIDERS:   Rat Fink posted by terber on 6/30/2004 at 2:19:53 PM
I'm going to be 70 this August. Just got rid of my old 10-speeder after not having ridden in years and having fallen off twice. Read about the electric bike in an airline magazine. I need a solid, lightweight, affordable (under $350) like I can ride into the sunset with. Ideas




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CUSTOMS:   Frame bending posted by: Harry on 4/15/2004 at 3:38:06 AM
Hey again, I have this JC penny bike and I decided to put a disc brake on the rear, but problem is that the frame isnt wide enoughto accomodate the disc. So I need to crush the frame slightly in about a 1in area, how can I do this without destroying my frame? Thanks.

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          RE:CUSTOMS:   Frame bending posted by AviationMetalSmith on 4/15/2004 at 5:05:58 PM
First, check and doublecheck that you installed the disc on the wheel correctly.You wouldn't want to do that to the frame only to find out you had the disk on wrong.
Second, I would NOT recommend crushing in the tube, as this will weaken it.
You might need to add a spacer washer on the axle, between then hub and the dropout.Even if you have to use a little force to spread the frame triangles, it shouldn't be as bad for the frame as what you suggested.

          RE:CUSTOMS:   Frame bending posted by sam on 4/17/2004 at 2:26:35 PM
I'm told"have NOT tryed this" the bent builders make a specal tool to do this. They take vicegrips or a "C" clamp and weld a stright round solid bar on one side and a half tube cut length wise on the other side.

          RE:CUSTOMS:   Frame bending posted by ziggy on 4/22/2004 at 12:29:50 AM
Although this seema like an easy way out, it will work. Just get a narrower wheel with the correct hub for the disc. This way you won't have to risk ruining the frame. Also make sure that the caliper will fit so it is perfectly centered over the disc and isn't touching the frame. If you use my suggestion of using a narrower wheel, then this shouldn't be a problem.




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CUSTOMS:   Getting started posted by: Dan Simmons on 4/8/2004 at 12:42:49 AM
I've got an old 26" Monacrh bike that I want to customize. Lower, stretch, and drop the frame. Banana seat, sissy bar, and monkey handlebars! Anyone out there giving free advise or instructions? Is it possible? I need a project for the summer. Thanks in advance, and e-mail me if you have info. Dan

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          RE:CUSTOMS:   Getting started posted by ziggy on 4/9/2004 at 3:04:42 PM
This may be an extensive project. To stretch the frame,you can do it in two ways. One cut out the crossbar and the downtube and add new longer pieces. This is an oppurtunity to re shape the frame by using different pieces. once you get new pieces made, notch the ends with a hole saw so the tubes will fit nicely on the headtube and seat post. Then weld the tubes in place with GOOD welds. sloppy ones will take away strength. Two or you can cut the downtube and cross bar in the middle and add additional tubing. This method is ok, but you will have weld joints showing. It is pretty difficult to grind down welds to make them look like they aren't there.To lower it, simply add smaller tires and wheels or you could swap out the back triangle for one that will fit smaller tires and wheels. Remember, good welds. There are a lot of aftermarket lowrider parts available. To lower the front end, you can buy curved springer frontends that not only look cool, but add a front suspension.You can get these as well as the seat, sissy bar, and handle bars for pretty good prices at these websites. www.masterlowrider.com

          RE:CUSTOMS:   Getting started posted by ziggy on 4/9/2004 at 3:08:48 PM
This may be an extensive project. To stretch the frame,you can do it in two ways. One cut out the crossbar and the downtube and add new longer pieces. This is an oppurtunity to re shape the frame by using different pieces. once you get new pieces made, notch the ends with a hole saw so the tubes will fit nicely on the headtube and seat post. Then weld the tubes in place with GOOD welds. sloppy ones will take away strength. Two or you can cut the downtube and cross bar in the middle and add additional tubing. This method is ok, but you will have weld joints showing. It is pretty difficult to grind down welds to make them look like they aren't there.To lower it, simply add smaller tires and wheels or you could swap out the back triangle for one that will fit smaller tires and wheels. Remember, good welds. There are a lot of aftermarket lowrider parts available. To lower the front end, you can buy curved springer frontends that not only look cool, but add a front suspension.You can get these as well as the seat, sissy bar, and handle bars for pretty good prices at these websites. www.masterlowrider.com
www.p.s.choppers.com
www.lovelylowrider.com
www.megalowrider.com You should have luck with these sites. Anything you put your mind towards you can do. An advanced project won't just go together like most anticipate. Projects like a full blown custom or modifying the frame will require time,effort, and problem solving. Post some pics when it's finished. Good luck.

          RE:CUSTOMS:   Getting started posted by AviationMetalSmith on 4/11/2004 at 7:05:16 PM
Dan,
You might want to check out this site;
http://bikerodnkustom.com

ziggy is correct, you will need more metal tube to weld in to stretch the bike. A junker needs to be found with similar tubes. (same metal,steel;same diameter or slightly different so one fits in the other)
My stretch bike has a fiberglass 4"x6" lumber size tube five and a half feet long, with a quarter inch wall thickness. I don't do any welding, but most of the custom builders do.
Another site for custom built bikes:
http://www.ihpva.org

          RE:CUSTOMS:   Getting started posted by kyle day on 4/18/2004 at 5:06:49 AM
man i need a dirt cheap drop bar for my new low rider show bike. im 13 and want the titest bike around and to get me attention. thanks kyle day

          RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   Getting started posted by ziggy on 4/22/2004 at 12:32:14 AM
What do you mean by a "drop bar"?




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MISC:   Bike Lanes posted by: AviationMetalSmith on 3/29/2004 at 4:44:04 PM
What's the difference between a bike route and a bike lane?
A bike route is marked with signs, green signs with a white bike and the words:"BIKE ROUTE".
A bike lane is marked by white lines on the pavement.
A bike way is a separate paved path, separated from a road by curbs, foliage and trees, OR follows the abandoned railroad tracks and i9s nowhere near any roads.

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          RE:MISC:   Bike Lanes posted by Aviation Metal Smith on 3/29/2004 at 5:10:41 PM
typo: There's no 9 in "is" ,not "i9s".

Anyway, this weekend I rode 20 miles. I feel great. I worked up a big appetite and ate lots of oatmeal, frankfurters, egg noodles with gravy, grilled cheese sndwiches, etc.
They say the human body burns 1600 calories an hour while riding a bicycle.
So I was riding my bicycle southbound on a BIKE ROUTE to the traffic light where it ends, I made the left turn onto a road with an unofficial bike lane. the Edge of the road has TWO white lines. There's a white line four feet from the curb and another six feet from the curb. There's a two foot wide "BIKE LANE" between the two lines.
The Police had a radar trap set up. As I was going past them I rang my bell and said"I'm using these white lines as a bike lane. The Police said "That's a good idea!"
The other officers said it was a good idea and one of them said to the others "We should keep an eye out to see what he means."
So there you have it. The police are watching with radars guns. The BIKE LANE is the safest place to ride.




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WANTED:   CCM Moto-cross posted by: Steve on 3/21/2004 at 8:47:13 AM
Hey there...I'm new to the whole vintage bike collecting scene. I would like to find a late '70's/early'80's motocross bike. I had an old CCM when I was a kid. It had the wide plastic tank, fenders and number plate. I've been looking for awhile now with no luck...anyone have any info...? Thanx...

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          RE:WANTED:   CCM Moto-cross posted by ziggy on 3/22/2004 at 1:20:41 AM
Try ebay, or post this message in the "wanted" section




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CUSTOMS:   STOLEN FULLY CHROMED DYNO ROADSTER posted by: Daniel Rann on 3/4/2004 at 8:09:13 PM
Last nite my fully chromed custom 2002 Dyno Roadster (go to www.palmcycle.com to see pic) was stolen from my apartment in West Hollywood CA. It has a black harley seat with chrome studs and a thin red trim around the saddle. The chainguard is completely chromed. 144-spoke wheels. U shaped handlebars, motorcyle mirrors, bullet air tips. I'm offering a $200 reward if it is returned. Call me at (310) 770-1753 or email me.

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          RE:CUSTOMS:   STOLEN FULLY CHROMED DYNO ROADSTER posted by AviationMetalSmith on 3/10/2004 at 5:41:40 PM
That is a sad story. I too had one of my best bikes stolen so I know how you feel. You know, back in the old days when horses were the main means of getting around, the penalty for stealing a horse was hanging (by the neck untill dead). That's how I feel about bicycle thieves. They should be hanged.

          RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   STOLEN FULLY CHROMED DYNO ROADSTER posted by ziggy on 3/10/2004 at 10:05:59 PM
I agree.

          RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   STOLEN FULLY CHROMED DYNO ROADSTER posted by Nick on 3/13/2004 at 12:12:51 PM
and casterated!

          RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   STOLEN FULLY CHROMED DYNO ROADSTER posted by snabby on 3/17/2004 at 2:51:26 AM
You mean "castrated".




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AGE / VALUE:   EisbeinKruise'04-DVD ... OUT NOW! posted by: Sebastian on 3/1/2004 at 8:20:39 AM
Hi all,

just wanted you to know that the official EisbeinKruise-DVD is out.

Order your copy at http://www.customcruiser.de

cheers!
Sebastian °LowStylez B.C.,Germany°

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AGE / VALUE:    posted by: Scott on 2/25/2004 at 12:25:39 AM
does anyone no of any sites that have custom rims for lowrider bikes

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          RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by metlhed on 2/25/2004 at 8:45:39 PM
http://www.wildwheelwerks.com
http://www.dawgridez.com
http://www.masterlowrider.com
http://www.megalowrider.com

          RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by ziggy on 2/25/2004 at 9:35:28 PM
www.coastairbrush.com. Look under vintage choppers.




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CUSTOMS:   my chopper posted by: snabby on 2/24/2004 at 9:12:20 PM
Awesome! The two choppers with the wide rear tires were really cool! Hopefully I will send pics of my custom chopper for the next issue. It should be done by april or early may. I can assure you that it will blow everyone away.

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          RE:CUSTOMS:   my chopper posted by snabby on 2/24/2004 at 9:17:26 PM
oops, this message was a reply to the person who posted the bikerodnkustom message.




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CUSTOMS:   The New BikeRod&Kustom Is Up posted by: JimW. on 2/23/2004 at 4:10:53 PM
http://bikerodnkustom.com

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          RE:CUSTOMS:   The New BikeRod&Kustom Is Up posted by metlhed on 2/24/2004 at 12:32:22 AM
hey jim, the new issue looks awesome! keep up the good work! oh yeah, when are we gonna see more of Mr. Moto?? keep up the great work!

          RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   The New BikeRod&Kustom Is Up posted by JimW. on 2/24/2004 at 5:31:32 AM
Thanks; glad you liked it.

Mr. Moto's frame is on a shelf, his engine is under a workbench. He's been put on the back burner for a while, in favor of another moto project. The fourth of our Z4 frames is going to have a 1980 Honda Elsinore air-cooled 250cc 2-stroke shoehorned into it, with those WWW billet wheels with the hole pattern, as seen on the new Editor page, fitted to it. It'll be the most outrageous motorbike ever, and way too fast. Since I acquired a mint-condition Orline bike engine about a year ago, I've been thinking Mr. Moto may end up as a different vintage-style motorbike. We'll see.

          RE:CUSTOMS:   The New BikeRod&Kustom Is Up posted by Sebastian on 2/24/2004 at 5:34:31 PM
Another GREAT issue! Love your work Jim - keep it up! Hope to make it in the next issue with my new stretch and my girls cruiser.

Cheers!
Sebastian °LowStylez B.C., Germany°

          A euro-theme would be cool posted by sam on 2/27/2004 at 12:49:38 AM
Sebastian kinda started the euro-bike kustom,a piece on his work/including his club's work would make good reading inaddition to seein cool bikes from Germany--sam

          RE:CUSTOMS: The New BikeRod&Kustom Is Up posted by Rif on 2/27/2004 at 2:15:57 AM
Yet another GREAT issue! Up to the standard that we have come to expect as well. Keep it rolling Jim you're doing good things in making the world aware of Kustom bikes, and raising the bar for builders! I still FIRMLY believe that BR&K is directly responsible for all the Kustom goodies being made available to us now, and it keeps growing!
What's funny is NOW some of the bigger manufacturing companies are finally starting to see the light and make kustom goodies.
Also, a question concerning KANDIRU-
The use of CrMO tubing for weight savings is great, but how is it strength-wise when used for something that has a lot of hard road stress such as a long distance, hard ridden moto-bike capable of speeds of 60+ MPH?
I'm still learning about the properties of metals (tubing) in this type application.
Again thanks for another great issue, keep it up!
Rif

          RE:RE:CUSTOMS: The New BikeRod&Kustom Is Up posted by JimW. on 2/28/2004 at 6:25:43 AM
The CrMo itself is incredibly tough; just bending it smoothly requires major effort and very gradual manipulation. However, brazed joints, as we used on Kandiru, may not make it for powered vehicles. Dave asked a serious pro welder neighbor of his about it, and the guy told him that brazing doesn't stand up very well to continuous vibration as well as welding does. It gets brittle under those stresses. So, CrMo works best for motos if it's TIG welded. Therefore, when we do the Honda 250-powered moto Z4 frame, it'll be TIG welded. I wouldn't try to use MIG welding or stick-arc welding on the thin-walled .030 tubing we used on Kandiru. (Actually, I did try it, which is why we went with brazing-it'll burn-through like Kleenex.) But, for un-powered bike frames, it's tough to beat brazing to do the job, and the incredible lightness of .030 CrMo makes a huge difference in the weight of a kustom bike frame.

          RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS: The New BikeRod&Kustom Is Up posted by JimW. on 2/28/2004 at 7:42:20 AM
PS: I should also point out that CrMo is the metal of choice for home aircraft builders. As a matter of fact, we bought our metal stock from an aircraft source(http://aircraftspruce.com) DIY aircraft builders commonly use gas welders to join the tubing in a metal aircraft frame. The same torch I used for brazing could have been used for welding the thinwall CrMo we used, however, it had been 30 years since I'd used that welding method, so I went with brazing instead. With practice, though, you can torch-weld thinwall CrMo very well. There are some low-pressure torches available which make it even simpler.

          RE:RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS: The New BikeRod&Kustom Is Up posted by ziggy on 3/10/2004 at 10:07:00 PM
cool.

          RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   The New BikeRod&Kustom Is Up posted by john phillips on 5/26/2004 at 5:45:03 PM
is it still available forsale?

          RE:CUSTOMS:   The New BikeRod&Kustom Is Up posted by Rod on 7/1/2005 at 3:46:02 PM
Hey Jim, this is one hell of a site! The chopper builders are very creative, but I myself prefer Schwinn's classic cantilever geometry, and after viewing Martin Wagner's Phantom and girlfriend's B-6, i've been given another reason to keep that 'old school vibe' with a twist of Daytons on my '66 Heavy Duti; like the late Tupac Shakur once said, "IT AIN'T NOTHING LIKE THE OLD SCHOOL!!!"
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WANTED:   Need Info posted by: Jesse on 2/21/2004 at 7:45:26 PM
Hey there,
I've Got an old CCM Marauder but i dont know what its worth. It's Got Original Everything except for the color of the frame, pedals, the rims and tires.
Jesse

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          RE:WANTED:   Need Info posted by ziggy on 2/21/2004 at 11:52:16 PM
Try the section on this website. Or wait until someone writes back with some info.

          RE:WANTED:   Need Info posted by MUTZ on 3/6/2004 at 4:07:53 PM
DO you have a pic of this bike or know what year it might be......thankx MUTZ

          RE:WANTED:   Need Info posted by Mike on 4/3/2004 at 9:11:55 PM
I think it would be hard enough to give away since it a
Canadian bike and not very well known. It's a VERY cool bike
though, inovative use of sheet metal, elevated chain stays
and super nice styled. I saw a mint one on Ebay and the guy
was asking $50 cdn and I'm not sure he got it.




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AGE / VALUE:   EisbeinKruise'04 - pictures are up! posted by: Sebastian on 2/12/2004 at 4:40:28 PM
Hi all,

sorry for "not posting" in a long time. Had to much to take care of lately.

We had our first Cruise last weekend. The "EisbeinKruise'04" - hardcore cruizing for all the HARDCORE cruisers!
It's been cold (about 7°C) and it's been raining but this couldn't stop us from taking over the city of Hannover/Germany. 41 bikes rushed downtown for a 10kilometers cruise to "Mel's Diner" for a cold one and some burgers. After another 10km cruise back to the city we all met at the "BikersBase" a local bike shop for a little party.

THANKS to everyone who came and made this a cruise to remember.

Pictures are at http://www.customcruiser.de

Enjoy!
Sebastian °LowStylez B.C., Germany°

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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   EisbeinKruise'04 - pictures are up! posted by sam on 2/21/2004 at 3:28:29 AM
Took the day off work,so had time to check out the German Kustoms.Keep up the good work,Sebastian,Wow what a BLAST!---sam




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WANTED:   NEED info on ......PYRAMID posted by: mario MUTZ morello on 2/6/2004 at 8:17:16 PM
Does anybody know where or how to get info of their parts list.....I am working on a older ccm mustang thankx in advance...........mutz

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          RE:WANTED:   NEED info on ......PYRAMID posted by JimW. on 2/10/2004 at 8:36:29 PM
http://bikepartsusa.com
Carries pretty much the whole Pyramid line.
BPUSA is a great source of bike parts. I use them a lot, because they have almost anything I ever need, and their prices are reasonable.

To answer a previous enquiry below- the new BikeRod&Kustom is in the works, and will probably be up in about a week.
JimW.

          RE:RE:WANTED:   NEED info on ......PYRAMID posted by MUTZ on 3/6/2004 at 4:09:55 PM
THANKX FOR THE INFO




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CUSTOMS:   raking, tanking posted by: metlhed on 2/5/2004 at 8:29:49 PM
hey everyone....

i was wondering, now that i know how to weld...i want to rake the headtube on my bike...26" jc higgins...how owuld i go about doing this, and when i do, should i tig weld it back together?? also, i was wondering, i want to put a tank and skirts on it, but how exactly do i do this...when iput them on, do i MIG or TIG weld them on??

also, what does every one think about powdercoating...i have been thinking about getting my frame done, and buying a kit to do it at home, for small stuff, like hardware and fenders

also, i have an idea for a spinner in my frame...my project is based on a harley davidson, so i will have my brother machine me a pice that says H-D, and i will cut out a section of the seat tube and weld in roller skate berring, and then bolt in the H-D piece so it will spin on the berrings....

when is the new BRnK gonna be out??????

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          RE:CUSTOMS:   raking, tanking posted by ziggy on 2/6/2004 at 10:43:03 PM
Tall order. To rake the head tube, cut the top and down tubes behind the head tube. Grind away at the top tube until you acheive the rake you wan't. Be sure that you don't rake it too much otherwise the forks will bend. It doesn't matter which welding machine you use. However TIG welding is better suited to alluminum. MIG welding is easier because you are using a "gun" style welder, but the choice is yours. Make sure the welds are good welds and not sloppy. Also be sure to reinforce the neck area with a gusset that spans the gap between the top tube and the bottom tube near the headtube with a piece of sheet metal cut to shape. To weld on a tank and skirts, TIG welding will make a cleaner weld, but use small tack welds. If you weld for too long on sheet metal you will burn through and you will have to start over. Set your welder accordingly! Powdercoating leaves a clean,smooth eye catching finish, but it isn't kind on your wallet. If you have $500 or more to burn, than go for it. Careful spray painting can look awesome if it is done right. Plus it is cheap. DON'T powdercoat or paint hardware! It won't fit right a hole because of the coating. It will also just cover the threads and will have to be ground off or cleaned off with a dye making the coating useless. If nuts are coated, the threads would have to be cleaned out with a tap. covered holes on the frame would have to be tapped clean also if they are threaded. If not, then they will have to be cleaned out with a drill.

          RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   raking, tanking posted by metlhed on 2/7/2004 at 10:54:05 PM
hey, thanks alot! i never actually thought of putting a gusset inside the tank, but now that you say it, i relized it will help alot! i talked to a local powdercoating shop, and they told me they would do my frame for about $150, but probably less, cause the sandblasting wont take as long, because it has already been done and primered only once.

          RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   raking, tanking posted by sam on 2/8/2004 at 5:32:50 PM
I do agree with ziggy,and would add power coating also limits greatly your paint style.With spray you can mask,blend,fade,add decals,clear coat--well you get the idea.With power you get a great one color frame.---sam PS get several old Huffy frames and try the rake/welding till you get it right--then go for the real thing on your kustom.

          RE:CUSTOMS:   raking, tanking posted by ziggy on 2/10/2004 at 8:51:04 PM
One more thing. Be sure to choose good fork tubes. If you choose to go with the "cheap chopper" fork method, fine. Just be sure to reinforce the entire assembly with good welds on joints. The cheap chopper method involves adding junk tubing or crossbars from another bike frame to a pair of existing forks. This method is OK, but it isn't nearly as strong as single forks. I would go with one 1'' mild steel tubing or larger. It costs about 2$ a foot, but you are only going to need eight to ten feet of it anyway. Solid stock is even better and stronger but more expensive and nearly impossible to bend unless it is bent in a hydraulically equipped bender. for the ends, weld on some pre-made dropouts or make some from 1/4'' plate. Make sure they are PERFECTLY straight or the wheel will be crooked. Great deal on the powdercoat! Usually it costs a lot more than that!




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