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LOWRIDERS:   frame strength posted by: Steve on 8/8/2002 at 5:51:16 AM
How much frame strength if any would I loose by taking out the vertical bar that the seat post goes in to (whatever thats called).

          RE:LOWRIDERS:   frame strength posted by Sebastian on 8/8/2002 at 9:39:24 AM
Hi Steve, I did that to my frame. You'll have to reinforce the frame by maybe welding some skirts on (did that too) and/or welding the tank, and the space between the two bars that go to the front (under the tank).
See pics of my bike @ http://www.lowriderbike.de ... - "Bikes" - "Bastis".
So, you'll definitely loose some frame strength but when carefully reinforced it should be still rideable - I use mine as a daily driver and never had any trouble with it.

Sebastian °LowStylez B.C. Hamburg, Germany°

          RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   frame strength posted by bill miotoza on 8/18/2002 at 3:32:21 PM
the broke when i went off a jump and i broke my arm!!!!

          RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   frame strength posted by bill miotoza on 8/18/2002 at 3:32:25 PM
the broke when i went off a jump and i broke my arm!!!!

          RE:RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   frame strength posted by billy bob thorton on 8/18/2002 at 3:35:34 PM
these bike su** man i also broke my arm these frame bend like gum there nothing man i sewed the guy that them and he lost!!! dont buy them

          RE:RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   frame strength posted by billy bob thorton on 8/18/2002 at 3:35:39 PM
these bike su** man i also broke my arm these frame bend like gum there nothing man i sewed the guy that them and he lost!!! dont buy them

          RE:LOWRIDERS:   frame strength posted by James Donohue on 8/18/2002 at 3:56:54 PM
that guy told you he broke his arm.
You shouldn't remove anything that
holds up Riders weight.

          RE:LOWRIDERS:   frame strength posted by James Donohue on 8/18/2002 at 3:56:58 PM
that guy told you he broke his arm.
You shouldn't remove anything that
holds up Riders weight.

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MISC:   ReBike Trike (Recumbent) posted by: Wings on 8/1/2002 at 6:16:59 AM
I have a ReBike Trike that has a very poor brake and a very limited freewheel on the axle. I have been able to remove the brake but I have never been able to get the original freewheel off that is mounted on a steel rod (not a wheel). Does anyone have information on this or refer to a site that would?

          RE:MISC:   ReBike Trike (Recumbent) posted by Mike on 8/5/2002 at 3:32:18 PM
I'm guessing that the freewheel is threaded on and that you
don't care if you destroy it in the removable process. Get a
a pin spanner and remove the cog body retaining ring, look for two
holes, and spin it off counter clockwise. If this fails attack it
with an angle grinder, digging in and splitting the ring in two
pry out the two parts and the cog body will come off; what's left
can be turned off CCW using a pipe wrench. If you don't feel
comfortable doing this yourself an old school bike shop with
real mechanics, as opposed to "parts changers", can do the job.

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AGE / VALUE:   EazyOrange in the works posted by: Sebastian on 7/22/2002 at 5:55:17 PM

Just wanted to share some "making of" pictures of my EazyOrange lowriderbike.


right now I welded 3 millimeter steel everywhere. It's gonna be smoothed out by the end of the week to start painting next week.
Color will be some orange base, topped with gold and pearl flakes and some wild "Lowrider-Euro-Style" graphix.

Sebastian °LowStylez B.C. Hamburg, Germany°

          RE:AGE / VALUE:   EazyOrange in the works posted by mike on 7/23/2002 at 9:38:00 PM
Hi Sebastian, looks great so far, is it close to the original
design? Mike

          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: EazyOrange in the works posted by Sebastian on 7/24/2002 at 8:54:06 AM
mike, in fact it's not. I had do do some design changes, because of the frames strength. I want it to be a rider - not a trailer queen. So I had to go the safe way. Anyway - it's gonna be HOT.

Sebastian °LowStylez B.C. Hamburg, Germany°

          RE:AGE / VALUE:   EazyOrange in the works posted by Rif Addams on 7/28/2002 at 2:35:31 PM
WOW! MAn you really have the stuff, that is beautiful work. Wish I was at that point mself as far as equipment and abilities.
Keep on inspiring the rest of us, your work just keeps getting better and better with each new project!

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FOR SALE:   Lowracer for sale posted by: R.D. on 7/20/2002 at 6:19:45 AM
I am selling my bicycle. You can see it here> (http://recumbents.com/wisil/stockinger/alley_cat.htm)Price is $2,000.oo US


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LOWRIDERS:   26" lowrider posted by: metlhed on 7/19/2002 at 9:09:45 PM
i am thinkin about gettin a 26" bike to make a lowrider, but i was wonderin... is there any way i can make it lower than just putting a bent springer fork on it?

o yeah i FINALLY finished my murray lowrider, but i cant really ride it caue i have 3 inch cranks and the pedals sit about a millimeter off the ground but its cool, i will have pix soon!


          RE:LOWRIDERS: 26 posted by Sebastian on 7/22/2002 at 12:09:54 PM
metlhed - there are several ways to lower your cruiser.

First (and easiest) way is to remove the spring and bold the forkcrown directly to the spring-ring. That's what I did to my 26incher. Take a look at it at http://www.lowriderbike.de -> Cruisers -> Bastis. This lowers the bike about 50 milimeters.

Second way is to put a downcrown on. This is said to lower the Bike about six inches. Looks really cool - but the upper fork arms will eventually hit the tank (in case you want to mold one). So steering is rather difficult.

Third option is to rake the steering tube of the frame a few inches back. This is achived by cutting the frames upper tube a few inches behind the steering tube and cut out about 2inches (or more, if you want to). Then heat up the lower tube and carefully bend it up/backwards. weld the upper tube back together and grind down the weld. This is the most difficult way to lower the bike. I don't know how this affects the handling of the bike but it surely does. Anyway this work should only be done by a professional welder. Frame modifications are rather difficult, because they affect the frames strength.

Eighter way You will have to get new shorter cranks. I put some short twisted cranks on my cruizer. Looks good and doesn't hit the ground too often but still does.

Do you have any pictures of your Murray?

Sebastian °LowStylez B.C. Hamburg, Germany°

          RE:LOWRIDERS:   26 posted by a friend on 7/26/2002 at 3:25:09 PM
All the information that was given in the prior post is true. You need too consider steering. What good is the bike if you have limited control? So when it comes to removing 3" from the top tube, is incorrect! Only remove 1". You will have good handling, and have style at the same time. Further more; cut your top tube at a 45 degree angle. Then do the nessecary clean up for the rest of the job. Hope I caught you in time.

          RE:LOWRIDERS:   26 posted by metlhed on 7/27/2002 at 2:17:19 AM
thanx for the info.

is there some place i can have the cutting and welding done at? i dont have anything to do it with...

          RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   26 posted by a friend on 7/28/2002 at 7:51:42 PM
Melthead, you must have a local welding shop near you, unless you live in a rual area. If there is someone local too you, explain what you want the welder to do and let him tell you what you can do and what is limited. "But remember" you must also consider your parts that will be attached too the frame that your designing. You don't want a frame built or designed, and when you go too put it together nothing will fit! This means at times, you must modify your parts too fit your personal design. So take your parts with you, and I mean tires, rims, seat, fenders, crank ect.

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CUSTOMS:   Girls 16" Custom posted by: James Donohue on 7/17/2002 at 1:24:12 PM
The Girls' bike is finally done!
After spending four days and over twenty dollars the bike is at last completed.
The basic bike is a Huffy girls bike with 16 inch wheels
that I bought used at a yard sale on Saturday for $10.00.
I built huge oversized fenders out of styrofoam and epoxy/fiberglass.
Unlike my previous creations, the fenders are not meant to support the weight of a passenger.
This was done to save weight and money and time spent on fiberglass.
The fiberglass fenders are painted flourescent pink/magenta which should burn the retinas of motorists when the bike hits the road.
The front fender as well as the rear are mounted to the frame, so the front doesn't turn with the wheel.
This one feature takes a new rider a minute or two to get used to.
crash protection is still there, but only one layer of fiberglass over styrofoam, so it's less than my previous bikes.
In fact I won't even claim that it can save your life
since the one that saved my life had ten layers of fiberglass in the front
fender and this only has one.
MY Bike building experience was centered around HPV's in the 80's and 90's
but no one wants to spend $40,000.00 on a streamlined recumbent,
so I now do custom bikes for a lot less.
HPV's have a lot of unusual design features,which gave my the Inspiraton.
Sincerely, James Donohue - hotbike@hotmail.com


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MISC:   Raliegh Lion Childs Trike posted by: Keith on 7/15/2002 at 5:26:05 PM
I have just bought a very complete Raliegh Lion childs trike. It is all there, but I need tires. The problem is that they are SOLID rubber and 15.0 x 1 1/8. Any help would be great. Also need brake pads for old scrub brakes.


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CUSTOMS:   12''-Custom Muscle-Style bike posted by: Sebastian on 7/11/2002 at 4:32:52 PM
I'm back guys :)

I just finished my latest bike. It's an old eastgerman 12inch kids bike (about 15-20 years old). I got it from Ebay for about $10. I decided to restore and customize it. It's got that muscle-car style. Painted it light blue. It will get some "racing stripes" soon. I put a 20inch bent fork on and use the original (rebuild) Wheels. Painted the rims dark red. I even used the original Tires. I just painted a skinny whitewall on 'em and put white lettering on. This is basically a "no budget" custom as I just used parts that I had laying around but it turned out great.

There's gonna be a big meeting on the next weekend. I will take some pictures of it there.
Sebastian °LowStylez B.C. Hamburg, Germany°

          RE:CUSTOMS: 12''-Custom Muscle-Style bike posted by Sebastian on 7/12/2002 at 1:48:28 PM
Aaaaaaaaaight folx, my new DigiCam just arrived. Here's a picture of that bike. Will take more outside this weekend.



          RE:RE:CUSTOMS: 12''-Custom Muscle-Style bike posted by Aaron on 7/12/2002 at 8:02:01 PM
Great job Sebastian! Those wheels look great. I haven't forgot about your fireball I have just been really busy. I got most of the sheet metal in place on my bike and the hand brake has been installed, now I'm waiting on brake bosses so I can use v-brakes instead of crappy old center pulls. I'll send you some more pics soon.

          RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS: 12''-Custom Muscle-Style bike posted by JimW. on 7/15/2002 at 8:27:11 PM
You Rule, Sebastian! Very nice job. Interesting frame, too.
I'm working on the tail end of the Wizard Bros. Kustom Rekumbent
Trike at the moment. It's going to be even weirder than we originally

          RE:RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS: 12''-Custom Muscle-Style bike posted by Jimmy on 7/17/2002 at 3:32:54 AM
Great bike! It would even look cooler if there was a little tank or something to fill in the area between the headtube and seat tube. But still, that is one cool bike, I really like those rims that are red, that really gives it style.


          RE:CUSTOMS:   12''-Custom Muscle-Style bike posted by lilchale on 7/25/2002 at 4:41:16 AM
can you just bring me 1 4 250

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WANTED:   RECUMBENT posted by: kris pappas on 7/8/2002 at 3:09:37 AM
Please, I am looking for a recumbent for not too much money. Surely there are some out there whose owners would like to find a good home for one of them.


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MISC:   Independence Day posted by: Jimmy on 7/3/2002 at 9:59:22 PM
Happy fourth of July everyone, Go out and ride your best bike in a parade!

          RE:MISC:   Independence Day posted by Rif Addams on 7/4/2002 at 5:28:42 PM
Happy Fourth!!!!
I would love to cruise but it's hammering down rain so I'll just dream about summer days and cruisin' on my bikes while watching the rain with a big goofy grin on my face!!!

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WANTED:   Sidecar Bicycle posted by: Randall on 7/2/2002 at 4:13:03 PM
I am looking for a bike with a sidecar. Anyone know where to find one?

          RE:WANTED:   Sidecar Bicycle posted by JimW. on 7/4/2002 at 2:55:04 AM
They aren't too common in this country. They were more popular
in the UK and Europe. We're planning a big feature on sidecars
in an upcoming issue of BikeRod&Kustom, however. A sidecar made
by Cody Customs may be seen at: http://mywilson.homestead.com/gallery15.html
Our Mr. Moto project bike will be fitted with a sidecar, also.

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LOWRIDERS:   New Lowrider Bicycle Magazine is out! posted by: Jimmy on 6/28/2002 at 4:53:01 PM
Finnally the Newest issue of Lowrider Bicycle Magazine is out, it hit news stands June 25. It is really two magazines in one, the front is the Bike side, and on the back you will find the cover for the model side, they put them upside down to each other so you can just flip over your magazine and read a different one. There is this really cool place that sells tanks and fenders too, but you can find it, and read up on the 25th anniversary tour ( It's a little late?)oh well, you better like this issue cause the next one won't be out until December 10, WOW! I dont think I can wait that long, I will just have to re-read everything in this issue. I wish it came out like Lowrider Magazine does, for cars, it seems they have a different one every time I go to the store. Well check out the new LBM and see ya later.



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LOWRIDERS:   Baby Dayton Axle Size posted by: JimW. on 6/24/2002 at 5:45:46 PM
Brother Dave and I have started work on a matched pair of
kustom kiddy recumbent trikes in the tadpole pattern, with
two 20" wheels up front. As the fronts are set up with car-type
steering, we need wheels with 3/8" axles. We'd like to end up with 72-spoke baby daytons all around.
Can anybody tell me the axle diameter of the front wheels in this pattern?
The usual 20" bike fronts are 5/16", which is too skinny. Thanks in advance.

          RE:LOWRIDERS:   Baby Dayton Axle Size posted by Mike on 6/26/2002 at 1:39:11 AM
I don't know if baby daytons have 5/16 inch axles or not,
if they do you can swap in 3/8 inch axles by down sizing the
ball bearings to euro headset size, go loose ball. Everything
should spin smoother than silk. You can buy cromoly axle 3/8
assemblies cheap at most old school bike shops.

          RE:LOWRIDERS:   Baby Dayton Axle Size posted by Mike on 6/26/2002 at 1:40:40 AM
I don't know if baby daytons have 5/16 inch axles or not,
if they do you can swap in 3/8 inch axles by down sizing the
ball bearings to euro headset size, go loose ball. Everything
should spin smoother than silk. You can buy cromoly axle 3/8
assemblies cheap at most old school bike shops.

          RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Baby Dayton Axle Size posted by JimW. on 6/26/2002 at 3:32:47 AM
Thanks, Mike. Jay Stewart e-mailed me directly, to say that
he's pretty sure that they have a 3/8" axle diameter. Good idea
to replace the axle with CroMoly. Since the axle is only
supported on one side in this application, every bit of strength
will help. One advantage of this trike is that it's kiddy-size,
so it won't have a huge amount of weight on the front end.
We're using exhaust-pipe tubing for everything forward of the
seat tube/existing BB. We're using a short section of 1 3/4"
tubing welded to the old BB, with 1 1/2" tubing telescoped inside
that for adjustable crank location. An interesting note, of
possible interest to others, is that 1 1/2" exhaust tubing is
identically dimensioned to traditional American bikes' head
tubing. 8 feet of 1 1/2" exhaust tubing goes for about $12,
and it can be had at most muffler shops. And they can bend
it for you, if needed.

          RE:RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Baby Dayton Axle Size posted by JimW. on 6/30/2002 at 5:32:14 AM
The Wizard Bros Kiddy Recumbent project is coming along nicely. We took Mike's advice and used 3/8" CroMoly axles, but the Euro loose head bearings tended to leak. We ended up using the original 5/16" caged bearings. We ran a 25/64" drill bit through the 5/16" hub, for clearance. It seems to work great.

          Wizard Bros.'Bent posted by JimW. on 7/11/2002 at 2:49:24 AM
We call it a kiddy recumbent, but it's designed to grow with the
kid. In actuality, it will handle any size rider from a 5-year-old
child to a 6-foot adult. The seat has a fore-and-aft slider
mechanism, and the boom is telescoping. Kind of heavy for a little
tot, but we have a 3-ring crankset up front, with granny gearing.

I sewed the upholstery Sunday, and Dave and I spent all
afternoon pulling buttons into it. The upholstery material
is a synthetic called "UltraLeather" by the same outfit
which makes "UltraSuede", which was the high-fashion garment
material about 10 years ago. It feels and acts just like
leather, unlike naugahide, which feels and acts like plastic.
It's way expensive stuff: $30 a yard; but it's actually a
tad cheaper than real leather, and it's more efficiently-shaped
than a cow hide. We covered (30) 3/4" metal buttons with the same
material, and did a dense button-tuft job on the seat. The seat
is 17.5" wide, 12" deep, and 21" tall. It feels great to sit
on, and looks fabulous.

Monday, we went to a local bike shop and bought the final wheels and tires
for it. The wheels are 72-spoke radial "Baby Daytons". The tires are Kenda Kontact road tires, with a round
cross-section. This is good as the front wheels are canted
14 degrees inward at the top, and the tread on these tires
wraps around to the halfway point on the sidewalls, so the
tire footprint is perfectly treaded. We weren't able to find
our ideal rear rubber, which is a Schwinn Stingray-style
Slik. We'll have to buy that off the web, I guess. The frame
is ready for painting. We're planning to do it in metallic teal blue,
with '50s aqua blue accents. ('50s aqua blue is like a
pastel teal blue, so it should go nicely together) The
upholstery is a very dark shade of teal, almost black.
We're planning to make Indian-style skirted ducktail fenders
for it, using my styrofoam/spandex/epoxy process. This is
going to be the most fabulous recumbent ever seen, I guarantee.
In the meantime, Dave and I spent several hours today grinding
the last welds on the stainless steel tubing cage-style
adjustable seat frame, then sanding it and polishing it
until it looks like chrome.

We just finished masking the stainless steel, in preparation
for spraying the frame tomorrow. We chose to let it sit overnight,
so we wouldn't rush the priming, and because the light will be
better in the shop tomorrow.

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LOWRIDERS:   Jimmys Lowrider Bicycle posted by: Jimmy on 6/23/2002 at 5:22:26 AM
Hello, I just decided when I finish my lowrider bicycle I am going to sell it so I can buy a pocket bike. I would like no less than $1,200. All together the price it took me to build this bike was a little over $1,500. When you add up all the parts like the fork, custom covered seat, chainring, pedals, handlebars, crank, gooseneck, bearing, seatpost, sissy bar, lights etc. Then add the shipping charges from California to Iowa, it adds up fast. I would also like to sell the frames sitting in my garage with this deal only if wanted.Theres a green Shelby Renegade frame, and another frame I am unsure of brand, a 26" frame that I am unsure of brand, and a complete Schwinn corvette, it is in alittle rough shape but it would be easy to restore, and all the bolts are AS bolts, which you would be able to keep on it. Plus I will give you a pair of Schwinn stingray handlebars with HUNT WILDE grips, red, the handle bars are alittle scraped aroung the grips, but it is ok for a rider, the renegade chain guard, Some wierd shaped ram horn handle bars with black grips, a mag sprocket and a three spoke sprocket, and a nice S2 schwinn tubular wheel, little peppering but could be removed easy, and if you like a Schwinn grasshopper slick that I painted a redline on and painted the GOODYEAR GRASSHOPPER letters white. All this stuff for $1,200, I think thats a pretty good deal. Remember you get the lowrider bike, three frames, handle bars, chainrings, and a complete Schwinn Corvette that could be restored easy. Buyer pays complete shipping charges. Or if you like you can pick it up at my house. If picked up at house you can just pay me in cash, but by mail money orders only, you may need to get two or three because I dont believe you can get money orders in that high of a value. If you want pictures of the lowrider please contact me, if you want pictures of anything else I can take a picture and send it to you. Thanks


          RE:LOWRIDERS:   Jimmys Lowrider Bicycle posted by mark on 6/23/2002 at 2:15:37 PM
can you send a pic to me. so i can see what it looks like

          RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Jimmys Lowrider Bicycle posted by Jimmy on 6/24/2002 at 6:21:50 PM
Ok here is the web address you can go to see multiple pictures with a description. http://www.geocities.com/jimmyjohnson3008/JIMMYSBIKEPAGE.html . sorry about the quality of the pictures, they are not as clear as the originals. Also there is a small paint run on the seat tube, along with a small chip of paint gone on the back bar under the seat. They arent really big but you could only see them among close inspection. Also the Schwinn corvette is black and is missing one grip and the headlight, but it still has the genorator.The 20" frames are a blue one painted in primer, it has a stuck seatpost and crank,sprocket and handlebars, fork. The green one is completly striped down to the frame, And the 26" had a messinger seat, but it was in bad condition so i junked it, the only parts left are the frame, crank, sprocket, and pedals. I really need to sell this bike so I can get a pocket bike before the summer ends. Thanks

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WANTED:   want to know basics posted by: Travis on 6/23/2002 at 4:44:55 AM
please any one im geting into the building of bikes i like the frames called sleds or the crusiers strechted out someone tell me how to start build a frame or find a frmae a customize

          RE:WANTED:   want to know basics posted by Aaron on 6/24/2002 at 5:38:52 PM
The first thing you need to do is get a couple of frames that you don't mind chopping up. You need to decide which frame has the coolest lines to use as the main frame then you chop the pieces from the other frame that you want to add. Generally people take the rear triangle off of one and add it to the rear section of the other. I have one that I am currently building that is a 40's or 50's monarch 26" beach cruiser, with the rear triangle and top bar from a 60's or 70's sears 24" cruiser. The way I put it together puts the seat back about 9" from original position and about 8" lower than normal. I can send you a pick of my frame if you want to see. Otherwise go check the Bike,Rod,andKustom site. The gallery section has lots of picks of stretched cruisers.

          RE:RE:WANTED: want to know basics posted by Sebastian on 6/25/2002 at 5:55:28 AM
For pictures of Aarons awesome work just go to


then click "Misc" -> "Contributions" -> "Aarons PedSled"

Sebastian °LowStylez B.C. Hamburg, Germany°

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