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MISC:   frame safety posted by: jason on 3/28/2010 at 7:37:09 PM
I was cleaning my favorite rider tonight, a 70's Motobecane Grand Touring, and noticed that the crown on the right seat stay is cracking. I am talking about the cap on the stay. It looks like it has been going for a while.
Should the frame be retired? I remember Kurt posting some pics on his paramounts doing the same thing, either here or on bike forums.
This was the bike that started me off on this stuff, and I am kind of heart broken. I suppose that I will just have another piece of wall art in my workshop.
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           RE:MISC:   frame safety posted by Warren on 3/29/2010 at 3:46:32 PM
It's a nice classic bike. Try to find a quality framebuilder/restoration specialist near you to get an opinion. That might not be too serious or too expensive to braze up. Then you can touch it up as best you can.


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           RE:MISC:   frame safety posted by jason on 3/30/2010 at 8:15:40 AM
Thanks Warren.

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AGE / VALUE:   Nishiki Modulus posted by: Aric on 3/28/2010 at 11:16:11 AM
I recently found an old Nishiki Modulus from a neighbor that had it at their yard sale. I haven't been able to pinpoint an exact date in it so I am wondering if anyone here could help me out. Its a Nishiki Modulus frame with "SRT" on the top tube, it has Shimano Exage 300EX components. From what I have seen, the 300ex components are from '99, but I have also seen that the 400ex components listed as from the early 90's. Its got a RPM Power Pro crank and Sakae custom modolo patent bars. The frame also says "Cro-mo main tube" and that it was built in the US. It rides very nice and I plan on keeping it as I really have enjoyed riding it since I purchased it, I am just wanting to get some information on this model and the year it may have been manufactured.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Nishiki Modulus posted by Nick D on 4/4/2010 at 3:51:54 PM
Go to the Wikipedia page for Nishiki and there is a clear explanation of how to read the serial number on the bike -- this will tell you year of production and country of origin
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MISC:   BRC pro posted by: Jared on 3/24/2010 at 7:04:23 AM
I have a BRC pro that I inherited from my father. I know it was his only bike he owned during his adult life. He used to be a mechanic in the air force and he would bring the bike with him when he had to work overseas. I was having a hard time finding anything out about this bike and I was just wondering if anyone could shed some light on it. It says made in japan, BRC pro, and it has a weird stem size, smaller than the typical 1 inch stem. the closest thing I could find was a french style stem but why would a japanese bike have a french style stem?

any info is appreciated.

-Jared
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           RE:MISC:   BRC pro posted by Warren on 3/24/2010 at 4:12:55 PM
It's likely the .883 size stem which was generally on cheaper bikes in the USA and Britain but was sometimes put on better Japanese bikes. More details and pictures of the bike are needed to judge it's quality. I saw a number of BRC mtn bikes in the late 80's but never road bikes. Could be nice.
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           RE:RE:MISC:   BRC pro posted by jared on 3/26/2010 at 4:55:29 AM
I dont have any pictures right now, it has 27 inch ARAYA rims and Tourney components all around. the lugs seem decent but not top notch. Im assuming it is a middle grade bike just judging by the feel. im not too worried about what the bike is worth because it has sentimental value i just havent been able to find anything out about BRC or a guess on the age of the bike.

-jared
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           RE:RE:RE:MISC:   BRC pro posted by jared on 3/26/2010 at 4:56:53 AM
it does have an 833 SR stem.
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MISC:   INDIAN HEADBADGES FAKE? posted by: Nelson on 3/22/2010 at 6:29:51 PM
Hi everybody,
I recently bough an Indian Bicycle without a nameplate. It has the classic 11 spoke chain ring, pedals, etc. I was searching the internet trying to know what kind of nameplate it supposed to have and I found three different emblems: one with the "Indian" word carved in a circular plate, other with the Hendee Mfg Co word and the "indian head" in the middle and recently find one very similar the the second one but with the word "Indian Motocycle Co" on top. My question is: what year this emblems belongs to? what is the correct nameplate for my bike? the person that sold it to me told me that it's a 1925. Also, is this last emblem fake? it's correct to a bicycle?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Bikermaniac


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           RE:MISC:   INDIAN HEADBADGES FAKE? posted by jj on 3/23/2010 at 4:01:32 AM
That headbadge looks legit.
Post a photo of the cycle, too!
Lots of stuff in the archives here about Indian bicycles. Use the search box

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AGE / VALUE:   SR Maxima posted by: Dave on 3/18/2010 at 9:16:03 PM
I am looking for information on a bike I have. It is an SR Maxima, Japanese 12 speed. Suntour components: sprint 9000 rear and superbe pro front derailleurs. Suntour superbe brakes, headset is stamped "tange levin alloy 66S japan", suntour hubs with araya 700c rims. "Superbe" crank arms, and Superbe pedals as well. Frame sticker reads "Champion No.2, chrome/molybdenum steel butted tubes, tange industries, Japan" . The frame is chromed under the paint, and the rear dropout is stamped "suntour PRO" on chrome....OK, I was going to ask about this brand...seems to be a suntour, with some very light components.

Cosmetically, there is a little light pitting on the wheels and other aluminum parts, but otherwise seems to be in decent mechanical shape to clean up and ride. If you loved or hated these components, would appreciate hearing from you.

I am thinking it might be a great ride, but more suitable to my fitness level and riding habits if it had a lower gear or two. Also thinking it would not be as easy as swapping out the largest gear on the freewheel (now a 24) for a larger one. I could easily find myself in trouble with the rear derailleur and chain length. Probably better to leave it as designed. Still looking forward to getting it rolling again though.

If anyone knows what vintage this might be, or something about the history of this brand, I would be interested in hearing from you. Two photos posted here on Reader's rides, Dave, at the end.

thanks, Dave.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   SR Maxima posted by dave on 3/18/2010 at 11:24:40 PM
trying to load photo here.....seems too hard! its with the rest of my photos here: home page>>general resources>>reader's rides>>dave.

Or click on the photo of my Atala posted in this discussion forum on March 11, and go to the end.

Any help on posting photos here?
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   SR Maxima posted by jj on 3/19/2010 at 3:54:42 AM
How to upload a picture

The picture must ALREADY be uploaded to some place on the web.
You can use a free photo sharing service like snapfish.com or flickr.com, or you can create our own personal web site in our Reader's Rides section.

Cut-and-Paste the web address of the photo in the box provided. (ex: http://oldroads.com/img/ed03_16_8.jpeg)


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   SR Maxima posted by Zippy The Pinhead on 3/19/2010 at 9:24:03 PM
Dave:

See the thread immediately below.

I looked at the picture of your SR Maxima. The paint scheme is pretty similar to mine, which you can see in the photo linked below.

What are the first three digits of your bike's serial number?


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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   SR Maxima posted by ken on 3/30/2010 at 10:51:11 AM
I don't think you'd have any trouble at all with the Suntour 9000 if you went to a 28t max cluster. That's the easiest and cheapest mod. The alternative is smaller chainwheels, not hard to do. Lots of mountain bike cranks have the same BCD - I set up a road beater with 39/48 up front, because I never need the highest gears anyway.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   SR Maxima posted by Ron on 3/30/2010 at 2:59:24 PM
These are great bikes. They are Japanese made and were distributed from San Diego in the early eighties. The Maxima was a 1984 model--it came in blue and red. The tange2 tubing is not the lightest tubing tange made but is comparable in strength and lightness with the top four or five tubing sets available in its day (Tange1 being one of them). Tange2 was recommended for larger (175lb+) riders as a compromise in strength to weight ratio while maintaining stiffness and the right amount of flex. Originally, this bike would have been equipped with all Suntour Superbe components, so somebody, somewhere along the line must have switched the rear derailer. In my opinion, this frame is worthy of decking out with upgraded components and possibly even cold setting the rear triangle to accomodate modern hubs and gearing, or find new old stock parts and restore it to it's former glory. It's not titanium or carbon but it is good quality steel and will last for ages if well cared for, just don't expect to keep up with the spandex peloton. If you wanted to have a frame like this made today, it would cost you $1200+ but don't get too excited, it's only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
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MISC:   Sturmey FM posted by: David on 3/18/2010 at 7:31:01 PM
We finally have beautiful weather in New England and I've been riding my "ebay mystery bike" (actually a Torpado or Italvega) the last few days with the wheel I built this winter with a Sturmey FM hub. What a pleasure this is on the Minuteman trail (a former rail line). If there were more extreme hills it would not be adequate, but for this route it's just perfect. Because there are only 3 useful ratios (except for the granny 1st gear) you don't shift constantly like you would with a derailer. No fussing, just riding pleasure!


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           RE:MISC:   Sturmey FM posted by Steve on 3/25/2010 at 8:40:14 AM
Agreed. I have an AM that is usually mated with a Fuji S-12 frame, and I can't imagine a more enjoyable flat ride. The range is about equivalent to a 14-18 freewheel; as I recall, your FM's main gears are about the same. (Does the FM's 2-stage gear train make for any greater resistance that you can feel?) The only problem is that I live in Seattle!
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MISC:   SR Semi Pro Road Bike 1983 posted by: Zippy The Pinhead on 3/17/2010 at 4:50:03 PM
I've seen some posts here in the archive from "Warren" who has some old literature from SR Bicycles.

I sure would like to get scans of that literature, and I'd be happy to post it.

I have a 1983 SR Semi Pro which I really like, and I just want to learn a little more about the origin, etc.

Thanks in advance
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           RE:MISC:   SR Semi Pro Road Bike 1983 posted by Warren on 3/18/2010 at 9:26:35 AM
Hey Zippy!

I can't find those scans. They're not on my 'putor but I'm hoping they're on one of the backup discs I have stuffed in a drawer. I will have a look this week because others have also asked for them.

WhatI remember is that SR was a west coast US distributor who imported nice frames from Japan and kitted them out. I still ride my SR as a fixed gear.
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           RE:MISC:   SR Semi Pro Road Bike 1983 posted by Zippy The Pinhead on 3/19/2010 at 9:11:29 PM
There are a number of posts over at http://www.bikeforums.net regarding the SR brand of bicycles:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?308150-Help-identifying-older-Japanese-SR-brand-bike-any-input-appreciated

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?70334-Vintage-SR-SemiPro

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?88852-1980-s-SR

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?90230-1980-SR-%28The-Final-Heritage-Word%29

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?513776-1983-SR-Racing-Pro-am

If you can find the scans, I'd be deeply grateful.

Our family is friendly with a member of the family that owns Dia-Compe (based in Osaka), and I went as far as to ask them if they could tell me anything about the possible origins of the bike, but I had no luck.
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AGE / VALUE:   middleweight ladies 26" bike posted by: Scott Magruder on 3/13/2010 at 11:45:20 AM
I just bought a ladies 26" middleweight bike. It has been painted (with spraycans) and has no brand or model markings left on it. It does have MOU 31X10 378548 stamped into the left chainstay. The coaster brake is a KOMEA (or KOME1) Super. ANy ideas on make/model or value?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   middleweight ladies 26 posted by David on 3/15/2010 at 7:43:11 AM
Hub is a "Komet," a German brand. Try the middleweight and ballooners forum. Serial number is unlikely to be useful.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   middleweight ladies 26 posted by Scott on 3/16/2010 at 3:15:09 PM
Thanks for your reply and sorry I posted on the wrong forum. I'll try the middleweight forum. Thanks again.
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AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by: Dave on 3/11/2010 at 8:05:28 PM
I have an old Atala 5-speed which I picked up at a second hand store several years ago. I couldnt resist, it seemed so stylish among the other bikes! I have just finished it and it came out looking great. I can find some info online about the upper end Atala road bikes, and some oddball bikes, but nothing about this model. I suspect it is from the mid sixties, but the only clue I am going on is that the big shift lever and plastic body simplex derailleur look the same as the drivetrain on my old Huffy 5-speed "stingray" I road as a kid. While this was not a high end bike, it does have a striking appearance with white paint, pedals, and cablehousing (I added whitewall Kendas), stylish curves and lots of chrome. If anyone has a suggestion about how to find the actual year of this bike, I would be very interested. I just might keep this one. I will keep trying to post the photo here
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by Dave on 3/11/2010 at 9:03:04 PM
here is the photo, Atala twista 5 speed


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by Warren on 3/12/2010 at 8:45:40 AM
Tough to tell the age but late 60's early 70's is pretty close. I doubt the stem/bars and shifter are original but the simplex is correct. Maybe Balilla brakes? No great collectors value but a sharp city bike...often those Italian frames were fully chromed and then painted over. Look at the scratches on the paint.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by David on 3/13/2010 at 6:34:18 AM
Cool bike. What size tires does it use?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by Dave on 3/13/2010 at 12:29:21 PM
After a little more research, The serial number, stamped high on the seatpost, has the first two digits 73, so I believe that is the year of this Bike. The wheels are "SUPER IRIS 27 x 1 1/8, and I found the Kenda 27 x 1 1/4, 90psi whitewalls on ebay. The brakes are stamped "Atala".

Had a nice but cold day yesterday, and I took it out for a shakedown ride. After centering the brakes and tweaking the chainguard a little, it rolls very nicely has a springy, silent ride. Oh, and as my Italian is weak, and my eyes aren't what they used to be, I noticed with some embarrassment that it is actually a "turista 5 speed" not "twista" as I wrote earlier!

The shifter is simplex, and as it is the right vintage and brand, I am not sure why it would not be original. Also, the frame is small, so I raised the bars up a little past max so I could ride and adjust it. Maybe that is why it looks funky or added. From the weathering and discoloration of the grips I believe they are original, but who knows, they work just fine. I dont see any chrome where the paint is flaked, but the butts of the tubing are naked, giving a nice effect, although the paint that meets the butts is a little sloppy. The seat clamp is weakly designed, with something like a carraige bolt that fits into a clamp that slides over the slotted top of the seat post. It has a square shaft on one side of the bolt that fits a square hole in the clamp, but the quick release for the rear brake also goes on that bolt, it does not penetrate the clamp enough to keep it from rotating as you tighten the seat post. previous owners have struggled to adjust the seat and buggerred up the parts. I will probably exchange the bolt for one from a Japanese schwinn traveler, losing originality but preserving function.

Thanks to all for a great site and discussion forum, just wish the photo links were hot...
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by Warren on 3/13/2010 at 1:43:20 PM
I suggested the shifter was a replacement only because I've never seen one matched up on a road bike with a Simplex gear. I'm old(ish) and I've seen my fair share of them. But you learn something everyday. It certainly looks like it solves a reach problem. The stem and bars look US made... a little incongruous with the bike. Italian stems were typically more traditional. It's all speculation.

Enjoy the bike
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by Dave on 3/15/2010 at 11:50:35 AM
Thanks Warren. Your experience and observations are valued here. There are no markings on the handlebars or stem to give any clue, but it seems an appropriate and nice match for this bike in any case.

Although I have always tinkered with my own bikes, since I was a kid in the sixties (I am 54 now), it was not till a few years ago that I began rescuing old bikes from second hand stores. My idea was to make some extra money at this, but the demand was not there at that time. Seems the vintage bikes are very popular now, and as I am laid off, I am bringing them out of storage and getting them rolling and for sale. I am learning everyday, and find myself fascinated with the history and technology from those days when bikes were getting lighter and lighter, when two hundred rather than two thousand could get you the latest ride! I totally dissassembled the atala, and cleaned, shined, reassembled and tuned it with great care and attention to detail. If I sell it I will be lucky to get 3 bucks an hour for my efforts! Still, that is a better return than I would have gotten 5 years ago! I have updated my photos here of the Atala, and added some shots of some other projects of mine for anyone interested.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by Dave on 3/15/2010 at 5:24:08 PM
Just wondering if anyone has an opinion about this: Is it cool to sell an old bike that did not have reflectors as original equipment without them? I like them original, myself, but I like to be visible when I ride as well. I always make sure that bikes have good reflectors if they came with them, but I notice now in loading my photos that I have sold a bikes that never had them without giving it a thought...my inclination now is to add them for safety...any thoughts?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by David on 3/16/2010 at 9:40:25 AM
As long as you're selling the bikes casually, and not as a business, it's unlikely you'd be sued for selling a reflector-less bike. As far as "safety" goes, reflectors seem almost worthless and most state laws require actual lights at night. If your library has access to a legal database, look up decisions in your state and see if anyone has been held liable in a situation like that.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by Paul Davis on 6/28/2011 at 11:59:50 AM
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by Paul Davis on 6/28/2011 at 12:11:44 PM
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by Keith Body on 6/29/2011 at 10:59:21 AM
Paul, this is my type of bike. At first look I thought early 1980's, but if paint is original obviously after 1985. If you look at any Italian bike maker catalogue you will find top end class bikes like this, in most cases built by specialist racing bike makers for the large companies. Usually available for retail sale.
You should look at a campagnolo time line to date the parts, which look original to me, and also you may find some of the parts are dated.
If you ride it, you should try light tubulars, about 7 ounces? instead of the hosepipe you now have.
In the mid 1980's this would have been about £1000 in the UK.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by David on 6/30/2011 at 4:30:07 AM
1986 or later, just judging by the date decals. Much later than that it would have had "aero" brake cable routing. Nice bike with Super Record components. I doubt it's a "factory team" bike, but rather the top-of-the-line production racer. As Keith suggests, try it out with a set of light wheels and you'll be thrilled at its performance.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Atala info? posted by David on 7/1/2011 at 4:33:37 AM
I just noticed the cool seatlug with boss for a pump. Usually, the boss is on the head tube, but that wouldn't work for such a short frame as this. This bike is really interesting; you don't often see such high end Atalas.
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AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Prelude posted by: Claudia on 3/11/2010 at 8:14:00 PM
I have a Schwinn Prelude men's bike that I believe I purchased in 1982. There is a decal on the front that says Chicago. I am trying to find the serial number to find out the age but can't find it. From the research I found it might be one of the first Preludes made and one of the last in Chicago. Does anyone know where I might find the serial number and what it might be worth if I sell it. It is in mint condition only road it about 5 times, all original parts including tires that still hold air. Thanks
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Prelude posted by Claudia on 3/12/2010 at 6:22:51 AM
I found the serial number last night I guess I was off on when I bought it. It state 1006 meaning the 100th day of 1986. I would still appreciate if anyone could tell me what it is worth.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Prelude posted by Gralyn on 3/12/2010 at 3:32:54 PM
It's hard to say what it's worth. It could be you could get anywhere from $150 to $300 for it.....it just depends. You might check the ebay listings and completed listings to see what (if any) they have sold for.
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AGE / VALUE:   Roadmaster age posted by: rich on 3/9/2010 at 1:32:12 PM
I want to find the date of manufacture of a Roadmaster Courier 3. It has a 3 speed hub. It was made at AMF Little Rock, Arkansas.


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Roadmaster age posted by jj on 3/10/2010 at 4:48:59 AM
Try posting the picture again. It needs to already be uploaded to the web somewhere like flikr or snapfish, etc.
If the thub is a Surmey-Archer it will have a 2 digit date code.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Roadmaster age posted by rich on 3/11/2010 at 12:19:50 PM
Can you send me another email address and I will send you several pictures of the bicycle?

Rich
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:���Roadmaster age posted by rich on 3/11/2010 at 3:35:20 PM
A photo is posted on flicker - richjw2010
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AGE / VALUE:   Inquiry on Age of a Fuji posted by: Gary on 3/4/2010 at 10:59:25 PM
Hi All
Ive been a collector of Vintage bikes for some time, but mostly Middleweights and Balloon Tire bikes. Here recently I aquired a old Fuji road bike for free to start to use on the trails come summer to help me get in a little better shape.I was curious if anyone would happen to know about what year this bike is. Its a Fuji Absolute 27in and is a 10speed. Any help would be greatly appriciated.(pic enclosed) Gary


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Inquiry on Age of a Fuji posted by David on 3/5/2010 at 5:46:16 AM
If it has a 5-speed freewheel, it's probably 1977 to 80 or so. (That model isn't in 76 catalog) If a 6-speed block, probably 80s.
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FOR SALE:   1955 Raleigh Super Lenton 531 for sale posted by: Geoff Rogers on 3/3/2010 at 2:11:38 PM
I have decided I own too many bicycles and it's time to sell my Super Lenton. It's a very original machine, dark purply-blue metallic paint, with all the right stuff: working Dynohub and lights, alloy FM four-speed SA hub, Dunlop Stainless High Pressure 27 X 1-1/4 rims, Raleigh wingnuts on front, half chrome forks, double-butted Reynolds 531 tubing, Brooks B5N saddle, original Bluemels celluloid mudguards. I'm not sure what it's worth; any ideas? I am open to offers and can supply pictures.
Geoff Rogers
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           RE:FOR SALE:   1955 Raleigh Super Lenton 531 for sale posted by Thom J. on 3/17/2010 at 2:53:57 PM
Geoff- Your ad caught my attention. Is the bike still for sale and if so, do you have a couple of pics? Thx in advance, Thom.
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AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Le Tour Luxe posted by: Kevin on 2/28/2010 at 5:47:45 PM
I have just acquired a 1983 Schwinn Le Tour Luxe and have a couple of questions. The bike is in amazing shape except the decals are wearing off, anyone know where I can get new ones? And any idea on value of these bikes?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Le Tour Luxe posted by David on 3/2/2010 at 6:08:49 AM
Decals show up on ebay frequently. You'll get a feel for value there too.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Le Tour Luxe posted by chris on 4/3/2010 at 2:48:44 PM
I have a letour luxe 79-82 (can't remember i just rebuilt I'm looking for parts and decals too..


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AGE / VALUE:   Idian head badge boston mass posted by: rusty lyford on 2/28/2010 at 4:55:48 PM
was curious what years indian had the head badge with boston mass?
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