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AGE / VALUE:   Pedal Question posted by: Gralyn on 9/12/2009 at 6:03:37 AM
I have a question regarding the different types of pedals. Most of my vintage bikes have pedals with toe clips and straps. On a few of my bikes - I have more modern clipless pedals. Sometimes I go for a bike ride - just to ride, and nothing else. Clipless pedals work just fine for this. But sometimes I ride to a particular destination, or I ride to run errands, etc. On these rides - if I am using clipless pedals: when I get to where-ever it is I'm going - I can't walk. I can't walk in those shoes at all. And like on a hardwood floor - they are like ice skates - I can't even stand up on them. So, even yesterday, I was using one of my bikes for basic transportation - but I wanted to ride one particular bike, which had clipless pedals on it - knowing I would not be able to walk once I got there - I swapped out the pedals for ones with toe clips and straps.
So, has anyone run into this situation? If so, what was your solution? (oh, I could carry regular shoes with me - but shoes are bigger and bulkier than you would think - to carry on a bike.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pedal Question posted by Warren on 9/12/2009 at 3:03:44 PM

When I started to ride semi-competitively in the 80's I chose Shimano SPD pedals because there was a decent selection of both performance, touring and casual shoes. For years I ran clipless "spuds" on my commuters, tourers and road bikes. Cannondale always made a great line casual running shoes and Shimano even had a pair of spd sandals (still got them). These shoes all had some flex in the sole to allow you to walk comfortably. Many people have dissed the old SPD's but my original Ultegra pedals still grace my vintage Marinoni and I've never popped out of them when grinding out of the saddle.

Nowadays I only ride clipless on my Marinoni Sunday rides and use clips and straps on everything else except for vintage roadsters with their rubber platforms pedals. But you can ride clipless full time if you want to invest in 3 or 4 (or more) pairs of shoes.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pedal Question posted by ken on 9/15/2009 at 11:22:17 AM
I'm in complete agreement with Warren; I no longer use my SPDs. He's right that the mountain shoes, and touring and spinning shoes, are a lot better to walk in. They have the cleat recessed into the sole. What he didn't say is that the spandex folks (no offense- some of my best friends, etc.) wouldn't be caught dead pushing a road bike with mountain shoes; they're _proud_ of not being able to walk when they get off the bike.
And don't forget when we're talking vintage, clips and straps are correct. With sneakers they are perfectly adequate and much more convenient. With old-fashioned road shoes they are totally cool.
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pedal Question posted by Warren on 9/15/2009 at 2:08:57 PM
Of course you only wear your carbon fiber Carnac shoes on the performance rides...that wasn't too hard to take. It was the leg shaving that really grated.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pedal Question posted by Cliff on 9/18/2009 at 8:50:50 AM
I have a bad hip and need to rotate my feet occasionally, started using platform pedals and never looked back. I imagine I lose a little speed, but I ride more now.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pedal Question posted by T-Mar on 9/18/2009 at 4:00:44 PM
You can also buy plastic platfoms with toe clips and straps, that you can mount your appropriate clipless cleat onto. It's an instant conversion of clipless to a toe cleat and strap, platform pedal. I use them when I want to get somewhere fast on my road bicycle, but have to walk around when I get there.
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MISC:   Bicycle Identification posted by: Brett on 9/11/2009 at 11:25:31 PM
I picked up an old Columbia Tourist V 5-speed today at a rummage sale. I've been cleaning it off and fixing it up, but can't find out much about it online.

Does anybody know anything about the Tourist V? When they were made? How can I find the serial number on this particular bicycle?

It's yellowish-brown and has chrome fenders, crank, and a rear rack.
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           RE:MISC:   Bicycle Identification posted by Matt on 10/7/2009 at 2:39:13 PM
I bought one at a goodwill store last week for $30.00 The serial number can be found on the left side dropout. If you go to this web site http://vintagecolumbiabikes.com/index.html and click on the "what year?" link then click on the "serial # identification chart" link you should be able to find your # and your year.
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AGE / VALUE:   Ideor Asso posted by: andym on 9/11/2009 at 6:10:57 PM
I picked up an Ideor Asso today at a pawn shop for $30.00 ! Rattle canned black but the frame looks to be in good condition. I've not tore into it yet so I don't know how worn the components are. Crankset and wheels are not original but the rest seems to be. Campagnolo Gran Sport deraileurs.Would the Campy parts have any date code? I'm thinking its from the very early sixties. The crankset was replaced by a Stronglight that looks from about that time period. I'm pretty excited about this find since I've not run into anything interesting in a long while.
I really don't know much about this make,I''m hoping someone might.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ideor Asso posted by Keith Body on 9/12/2009 at 12:29:55 PM
Hi Andy, Sounds good. You could search for "campagnolo time line", it would get you close to the date. Some early Campagnolo hubs had the date on the outer edge of the cones, under the lock nut.
A few pictures might help us.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ideor Asso posted by Tris on 6/25/2010 at 1:49:42 PM
Got mine at the Exeter dump for £15, judging by the rotted Wolber Invulnerable tubs it had sat in a shed since about 1982 ish. My best guess is mid 60's or earlier. If you rub off the crappy rattle paint, GO EASY! as these frames were usually beautifully chromed, this you might save. They are a beautiful ride, at least mine is, I just need one slightly bigger, and I would be well chuffed.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ideor Asso posted by Bryan Lewis on 9/23/2010 at 7:31:47 PM
I had an Ideor Asso that I bought in 1973 for $100. My guess was it was early 60's vintage, all Campy, Brooks saddle. It was chromed with a clear red finish except at the drop-outs. Sew-up tires. I striped the paint to show off the very good chrome job, and overhauled the bike. Then took it on a 500 mile ride from San Francisco to LA along Highway 1. No trouble at all, (except for one flat)rode very stable. Over the next few years I took an un-known number of long rides on that bike, even over the Sierra Nevada over Sonora Pass. The bike was later stolen from my garage, but I still have the rear deraileur and the nameplate (I was doing some mods to the bike at the time). I miss that old bike! Pictures to come.
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AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Le Tour III posted by: Steve on 9/9/2009 at 9:09:56 AM
I just purchased a Schwinn Le Tour III this past weekend. It's a bike I've wanted since I was a kid! The one I found was in great shape and, I believe, ALL original. I would like to tear it down and polish the parts that have very slight oxidation, I'm pretty sure I could call it pristine with a little TLC. I'd like to know if there's a site I can find out what year it is and where I might be able to get cables and housing, handle bar tape, and I need the dust cap for the non-drive side crank arm, the only piece missing. Original replacement tires would be cool too!! I appreciate any help, thanks!!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Le Tour III posted by ken on 9/9/2009 at 10:24:03 AM
here's a list of models. Looks like '78 is the only year it's listed.
http://www.geocities.com/sldatabook/models7579.html
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Le Tour III posted by Steve on 9/9/2009 at 11:48:00 AM
Thanks for the info!!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Le Tour III posted by David on 9/10/2009 at 10:44:52 AM
Cables and housing from any bike shop. 27" tires are generally available on-line and from better shops. Cotton bar tape in lots of colors available widely. The Japanese dust cap should be floating around in a lot of "odd parts" drawers too. Good luck.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Le Tour III posted by ken on 9/11/2009 at 10:08:24 AM
Were they still using that battleship grey housing, and brake levers with those huge adjusters on them? I had a Super Le Tour 12.2 from about that time with separate black rubber hoods for the adjusters
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Le Tour III posted by Steve on 9/15/2009 at 4:26:18 PM
Yep! still using the battle ship gray housing with "Shimano" in red lettering, and the huge adjusters, however, even though I could use any cables and housing, as well as any other parts, it has, since the posting, been 99.9% confirmed all original, even the period gumwall tires and black saddle, so I don't want to use cloth tape or any housing or other parts that would take away from this. I have found handlebar tape on e-bay that is the original black plastic, but as long as it's in as good a shape as it is,(I'll try to get some pix on here, but I'm not sure how to post them, can you only link to them or can you actually post them on here?)I just want to keep it all original,(guess I've drilled that point home huh, sorry). Anyway, thanks for the info and great (OTS) cycling!!
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AGE / VALUE:   helpppp posted by: lori on 9/9/2009 at 8:54:11 AM
how can you tell the year of your openroad? all i found on the bike was openroad and some kind of, looks like serial numbers....thank you lori
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   helpppp posted by Rod on 9/12/2009 at 2:43:40 PM
Maybe Open Road is a Montgomery Ward Free Spirit bicycle. Good. Can not say the exact year, late '60s to mid/late '70s more or less.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   helpppp posted by David on 9/13/2009 at 1:21:50 PM
Free Spirit is Sears trademark, not Wards. Probably have to date your bike by style and components. Serial number is most likely a dead end.
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MISC:   Campagnolo Italian and English head set specs posted by: Andrew on 9/7/2009 at 5:18:47 AM
Hey, all. First time posting here. I have a 1987 Grandis frame with C-Record. The headset is Campy Italian specs. It's heavily brinelled, worn out, and needs to be replaced. While I search for a vintage exact replacement, I'm trying to confirm if a modern Campy English spec headset would fit. I've found conflicting information from Sheldon Brown's site versus my old Sutherland's manual, etc. I don't care about the thread angle, but I'm concerned about the fork crown race diameter (are they both 26.4, Sheldon Brown says no while Sutherland's says yes) and the head tube race diameter (are they both 30.2, Sheldon Brown says yes while Sutherland's says no). Hopefully someone out there knows for sure. Thanks so much!
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           RE:MISC:   Campagnolo Italian and English head set specs posted by Warren on 9/7/2009 at 6:02:45 AM
It's confusing. Sutherlands 4th edition lists the inside/outside dimensions of the Campag fork crown race as 26.4/30.2 and the English version as 26.5/30.0. But it also lists the Italian sizing as 26.5/30.2.I would deduce that they are not interchangeable regardless.
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           Sutherlands contradiction posted by Warren on 9/7/2009 at 6:26:15 AM
Page 14-2 shows the above dimensions but the chart on 14-8 does indeed list them all at 30.2 mm outside. Hmmmnn.


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           RE:MISC:   Campagnolo Italian and English head set specs posted by David on 9/7/2009 at 8:38:20 AM
It sounds like you have it apart already. Get out your caliper and measure it!
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           RE:MISC:   Campagnolo Italian and English head set specs posted by Andrew on 9/7/2009 at 10:38:07 AM
Thanks for the replies. Well, it's my only ride, so I don't have it apart yet. I was hoping to be able to order something with confidence that it would fit. Even if I measured it, I'm not even certain what all the dimensions would be on a new Campy English spec headset. There's a bunch of conflicting info out there. I know a lot of Italian steel was sold in the 80's and I wonder what headsets those people are using (or maybe they never rode enough to wear out a headset!)
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           RE:MISC:   Campagnolo Italian and English head set specs posted by David on 9/7/2009 at 7:27:07 PM
Except for the thread angle, the headsets should be the same. Why not pull out your stem and try your headset lock not on a known English or Italian threaded steerer? If it threads on easily, it's the same.
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           RE:MISC:   Campagnolo Italian and English head set specs posted by Andrew on 9/11/2009 at 3:59:35 PM
I'm sure it with thread on OK. The thread angle is slightly different, but the pitch is the same. That part will work. It's the head tube cup diameter and fork crown race diameter dimesions that are conflicting out there. Thanks for the replies everyone.
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AGE / VALUE:   Need some help posted by: Stefan du-Maurier on 9/6/2009 at 7:26:22 AM
Hi guys just wondering if someone could help me out with some information on a frame that I have. I believe it to beOLMO Aero frame made from Columbus Air tubing and it comes with the tear dropped seat post.

I just need as much info on the frame/bike as possible as I might carry out a restoration on it if it is worthwhile doing so. I also need a new seat post as mine is pitted and dulled.

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AGE / VALUE:   Special CNC posted by: Curt Green on 9/5/2009 at 2:55:17 PM
Hey Guys, I just inherited an old Special CNC road bike from my boss. I wanted to know more about it and can't seem to find much more than Andy Farrands bike on here and a link to an old book called "Custom Bikes" that has a little chapter on the company. The bike is blue with a white banner on the down tube that says Special CNC in Red, the seat post tube has a white banner that says CNC. It has Mafac brakes, Schumann wheels, hurtel shifter components, the stem is aluminum with a name forged in it that I cant recall. It actually looks nearly identical to Andy Farrands except for the color. It even has the gold paint around the lugs. I would kind of like to more about it before I fixie it, if it is indeed a rare bike I will leave it alone or restore it like Andy's bike. thanks for any info, Curt
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Special CNC posted by Keith Body on 9/6/2009 at 11:32:57 AM
Hi Curt
Can you post some pictures?
Do you mean Huret gears? and what rims?
You could find the bottom bracket a bit low for fixed wheel. Most road bikes are better on gears, and had a slightly lower centre of gravity than "track" types.

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Special CNC posted by Curt Green on 9/6/2009 at 7:51:51 PM
Thanks, for the reply. I did mean Huret, sorry. it has Schumann rims. I can't seem to figure out how to post pictures, but if you send me an email, I'll send some that way. My address is clovea100@gmail.com Thanks, Curt
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Special CNC posted by schwinnderella on 9/7/2009 at 6:54:17 PM
I have one of these that sounds like the same model and color as yours.Where can I see the bike you refer to as belonging to Andy F ?
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Special CNC posted by Warren on 9/8/2009 at 7:13:29 PM
http://tinyurl.com/lmyt6o
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MISC:   87 Schwinn Tempo BB size posted by: Keith on 9/3/2009 at 10:09:17 AM
I am thinking about upgrading the crank and BB of my 87 Tempo to a newer/stronger/lighter product. Does anyone know what the size of the BB is..? help me out... thanks...
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           RE:MISC:   87 Schwinn Tempo BB size posted by ken on 9/3/2009 at 10:46:15 AM
You may not need to change the spindle at all, unless you have cartridge BB in mind.
How they're measured is illustrated at
http://sheldonbrown.com/bbsize.html
with (as always) a wealth of information you won't need besides. The point is that if you have the old one, it's probably got a size code.
Down near the bottom of the page is stuff about tapers and what cranks work with what spindles.
I've found that if you have the shell width right, you can finagle a couple of mm. Others may find otherwise...
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AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn S6 tire questions posted by: Greg on 9/3/2009 at 5:02:16 AM
I have a 1950 Schwinn World that needs tires. The rim is chrome and stamped into it is: Schwinn Tubular S6. A Kenda tire marked both 37x597 and 26x13/8x11/4 and that also says "Fits Straight Side EA-1 and Schwinn S6" when inflated to recommended pressure will not seat correctly on the rim. Does anyone have a solution?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn S6 tire questions posted by schwinnderella on 9/3/2009 at 7:02:51 PM
These are often times difficult to seat properly,try overinflating by about 20 pounds to see if that will seat it or a little water with dish soap in it applied to the bead of the tire often helps.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn S6 tire questions posted by David on 9/7/2009 at 8:43:57 AM
It seems like the size is nominally correct. Try the soap lube idea suggested already. Good luck.
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AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Sprint posted by: Ann on 8/29/2009 at 8:25:11 PM
I have a Schwinn Sprint, S/N GC738127; Headbadge 0917 and a stamp that says: Made in Taiwan. Can anyone tell me in what year this bike was made? I'm really conufsed by the multiple locations over the history of the company and just want to pin down this detail. The S/N was located on the left rear axle-hanger. Thanks for all your help ... happy riding ... Ann
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Sprint posted by ken on 9/11/2009 at 10:24:51 AM
The headbadge code signifies it was made on the 91st day of a year ending in 7... in this case, 87 sounds right. Shimano components have date codes you can check too.
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MISC:   Mystery Track bike posted by: anton.s.rangelov on 8/29/2009 at 5:45:13 AM
I just want to determine the brand of a bike wich I believe is form the 60s - race track frame - the only things I know so far are :
NERVEX LUGS-maybe very rare ..
BB-number 58° 64° D22E38 NERVEX
Handlebar stem-unknown so far.

Here are some pics of the bike:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41876312@N04/



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           RE:MISC:   Mystery Track bike posted by Warren on 8/29/2009 at 7:32:09 AM
How about the bottome bracket....french, english, italian?

Shame about the seat lug but the bike may be worth saving if you can find out what it is.
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           RE:RE:MISC:   Mystery Track bike posted by anton.s.rangelov on 8/29/2009 at 8:58:09 AM
Can`t be sure about the BBs the only thing I got is this number wich is related to specifications-angles and distance etc. - it`s not serial number.
The fork crown looks very similar to Cinelli's one.
Also there is a hardly visible "STERLING" logo on the frame.
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           RE:MISC:   Mystery Track bike posted by Keith Body on 8/29/2009 at 12:40:28 PM
I would expect the threads to be French. Not Nervex Pro, poor seat cluster, no brake drillings. My time warp, but I don't know the handlebar or extension. If you can measure the inside of the seat tube it will give a clue to the tubing quality. Campagnolo track chainset 1958 on. The front fork chrome was a bit too good for French production bike.
Literally hundreds of frame buiders could have made it, but somehow it has the look of large manufacturer.
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           RE:RE:MISC:   Mystery Track bike posted by anton.s.rangelov on 8/30/2009 at 3:35:44 AM
Comparison of a catalogue of 1958 and could not find such a match with my lugset or BBs
The catalogue is here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stronglight/sets/72157601987782099/



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AGE / VALUE:   bianchi piaggio posted by: rego on 8/28/2009 at 12:05:58 PM
I have a grey bianchi with blue bianchi stickers on the lower frame & mid seat post framing also a smaller sticker piaggio near the top of seat post framing. is it a 10 spd or 12. Also what year is it. Thanks
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AGE / VALUE:   Remember when an Araya bicycle was talked about here?? posted by: Rod on 8/27/2009 at 2:12:47 PM
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/1345247003.html

One of the images shows it has much the same logo as on Araya rims. So, anyway, here's one of those bikes. I don't really read CL too much, too many goodies! And sellers at times, are not easy to track down.

The guy says he has a bike store, so that might be worthwhile to some time, make a special trip to if he is not in the cities proper and that's what this sounds like, he is out in the country.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Remember when an Araya bicycle was talked about here?? posted by Rod on 8/27/2009 at 2:18:17 PM
http://www.re-cycle.com/shop.aspx?seller=seth612

Also here, if the advert gets deleted. Sorry for the double post.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Remember when an Araya bicycle was talked about here?? posted by Rod on 8/27/2009 at 7:15:13 PM
1 more!!! http://oldtenspeedgallery.com/owner-submitted/glens-1973-araya/
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Remember when an Araya bicycle was talked about here?? posted by Bill on 9/2/2009 at 11:02:08 AM
I posted about the Araya 10 speed. I know it an Araya bicycle as it has the same Araya headbadge. Mine is green. Not sure how to date it though?

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Remember when an Araya bicycle was talked about here?? posted by Moe on 9/16/2009 at 1:25:51 PM
My Araya is red and 40 years old. I just rehabed it (new seat, handlebar tape, tubes, and tires) and it rides sweet.
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MISC:   Putting a Triple Crank on a Motobecane or even Raleigh posted by: Rod on 8/26/2009 at 1:25:38 PM
This is close to a topic I brought up a few weeks ago, about thinking about wanting to add on a chainring to a Stronglight type of Crank (and I seem to understand Solida Cranks are made by Stronglight). I'm also thinking a Triple Crank might work too.

Old Roads is selling a Mirage with a Triple Crank, http://oldroads.com/img/DSCN0843.jpg

I do realize I might have to work with French threading and that might have a bearing on the matter. That aside, is it relatively easy to put in a Triple Crank say like Velo Orange sells, not a prohibitive cost ( link http://www.velo-orange.com/suoldlotr.html ) or even used can be found at even half that cost.

I could put a triple crank on anything from a Raleigh with Stronglights, or an older French measurements Motobecane or a 1980s Motobecane Mirage which surely, has common English/American measurements.

Would I need a new front derailleur?? Thank You. Nice looking bike at Old Roads.


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           RE:MISC:   Putting a Triple Crank on a Motobecane or even Raleigh posted by David on 8/27/2009 at 8:17:22 AM
Most front ders will handle a triple. A tiny granny ring and a big ring could be troublesome, though. The main thing is that you may need a new bottom bracket or longer spindle to move the inner ring far enough out. Any threading problems only affect the cups of the BB. Depending on which BB and crank combo you want to use there could be issues of compatibility between the tapers of the crank and the bottom bracket spindle. Look at this as an educational opportunity. Good luck!
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           RE:RE:MISC:   Putting a Triple Crank on a Motobecane or even Raleigh posted by Gralyn on 8/27/2009 at 10:45:32 AM
And if you can't get a triple to work - sometimes you can go with a wide-range between your 2 chain rings.....like maybe a 36/52, 38/52, etc. And sometimes you just have to try out different spindles, different cups, different cranks, different ders, etc. until you get something that works. Once you do get something that will work - then you have to get your chain the right length.
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           RE:RE:MISC:   Putting a Triple Crank on a Motobecane or even Raleigh posted by Rod on 8/27/2009 at 2:12:27 PM
Hello Gralyn and David:

Yes, maybe it is something to experiment on and get experience on, that's a bit why I picked up an extra bicycle, it was close, more or less, a brand I cherish.
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