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AGE / VALUE:is this an american bicycle? posted by: noel on 3/2/2009 at 9:24:22 PM
Hi everyone! Can anyone figure out if this is an original american bicycle. Any info would be very much appreciated.


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RE:AGE / VALUE:is this an american bicycle? posted by noel on 3/2/2009 at 9:45:40 PM
ooops.. here's the picture


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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:is this an american bicycle? posted by Chris on 3/3/2009 at 8:56:54 AM
Yes, it is. Totally cool and magical!' too!!
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RE:AGE / VALUE:is this an american bicycle? posted by noel on 3/3/2009 at 8:05:00 PM
tnx chris!

i was able to find the SN below the seat post, 109731. i'm trying to determine the age of this bike but i could not find the any data on the net regarding this brand. is anyone familiar with "westfield"?

btw, here is a closer look at the fork.


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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:is this an american bicycle? posted by Chris on 3/4/2009 at 5:06:30 PM
Columbia was an American balloon tire bike company, very famous Westfield was related to Columbia in some way I think. I recommend that you research Columbia bikes. Take you time, you have a real antique gem that is part of vintage bicycle history.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:is this an american bicycle? posted by David on 3/17/2009 at 8:00:17 AM
I believe Columbia's main factory was in Westfield, MA. It wouldn't be surprising if that was a brand name of theirs also.
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AGE / VALUE:Jeunet - Frame tubing? posted by: Gralyn on 3/1/2009 at 9:21:39 PM
I have a Jeunet - I've had it for several years now. It doesn't have a sticker to indicate what frame tubing it's made of. I have always assumed it was probably 1020, or 2030, etc. high tensile steel. But I had seen one on ebay at some time - and it had the remnants of a Reynolds 531 frame sticker. The frame was very much the same as the one I have. Mine is green, with black lugs, and black pin stripe on the tubes. It also has 1/2 chrome seat and chain stays - and nice striping where the paint ends and the chrome begins. It has a full chrome fork. It has Simplex dropouts. I would have to dig it out and examine it closer to see whether the dropouts are forged or stamped. From what I could see - they kind of look like forged dropouts - but then, they seemed a little too thin for forged dropouts. They are chromed.....but they could be stamped. Are there any clues to be able to tell what frame tubing it is?
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Jeunet - Frame tubing? posted by Warren on 3/2/2009 at 11:24:30 AM
It could very likely be 531 with the Simplex drops. Sheldon says the seatpost should be 25.8

The frame and fork would weigh under 5 lbs if it's butted...over 6 if it's gaspipe.

Here's some nice Jeunets, maybe yours is the green one? http://www.classicrendezvous.com/France/bicycles/Jeunet/Jeunet_630.htm
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Jeunet - Frame tubing? posted by Gralyn on 3/2/2009 at 8:11:08 PM
That pic looks much like mine. But, my paint is a bit faded.....and mine has a full chrome fork. The stripes between the chrome and paint on the seat and chain stays looks the same. At the top of the seat stay - mine has black paint on that flat part - the one in the link has black - but it also has some gold-looking pin striping. Mine has that same pump also. ....and of course, the pump mounts. Mine was just the frame and fork when I got it......I had a mixte style Jeunet....it was light blue with black lugs. I found a men's Jeunet frame on ebay.....transferred the components from the mixte.....then sold the mixte frame. I have since re-built it with a little better components.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Jeunet - Frame tubing? posted by Shaun on 4/11/2009 at 11:57:23 AM
I have had several Jeunets over the years. Even the entry level models had half-chromed seat and chain stays. This is in contrast to the general rule on Peugeots where generally you would only find this on the PX-10. Mine all had the all chrome fork as well. Nice bikes, but not likely to be Reynolds 531 unless it has forged Simplex or Campy dropouts. Another clue is the crankset. Is it cottered? Not likely to be 531 if it is.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Jeunet - Frame tubing? posted by Joan on 6/14/2009 at 7:56:04 PM
My first transportation was a woman's model of the Jeunet. It was red with quick release front and back hubs. The frame was made slightly smaller (I'm short) and I miss that bike terribly. Anything around like that? It had Suntour or Simplex gears... don't recall any more.
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AGE / VALUE:Nishiki Professional posted by: Liz Edgar on 2/26/2009 at 11:45:17 AM
I have a 1974 Nishiki Professional that was purchased new in 1974. I am wondering what the value of this bike is and have been unable to find out very much about the bike. It has hardly been ridden, it is to light weight for casual riding.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Nishiki Professional posted by David on 2/26/2009 at 4:04:09 PM
If it's in really good shape, it might be worth more than 500. The only way to find out, though, is to put it on ebay. Do you have any pictures? Make a detailed list of all of its components and markings. Good luck.
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Nishiki Professional posted by jj on 2/27/2009 at 5:06:29 AM
There are a bazillion Nishikis listed in the Used Bicycle Price Guide at the top of this page
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Nishiki Professional posted by David on 3/1/2009 at 2:35:56 PM
But none of them are Pros.
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AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Meteor? posted by: James on 2/25/2009 at 12:46:12 AM
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/1049537204.html
Found this oddity on craigslist.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Meteor? posted by Warren on 2/25/2009 at 4:24:09 PM
Nice custom bike...why would it be called a Raleigh?
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MISC:DUBAN DERAILLEUR posted by: dave on 2/23/2009 at 6:07:46 PM
Has anybody any info re: the DUBAN 4 speed freewheel cluster , as used on the 1960 VARSITY 8 SPEED? Thanx.
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FOR SALE:Melton frameset posted by: Matt on 2/21/2009 at 9:56:27 PM
This is an early 80's frameset made by Mike Melton. Made of butted Reynolds 531 main tubes. Long Campagnolo drop-outs in the rear with eyelets, Campy drop outs in front with dual eyelets. 24tpi Cinelli bottom bracket and Haden fork crown. Touring geometry, brazed on pump peg and beautifully filed lugs. I am asking 475.00 OBO I have lots of pictures posted here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30894973@N04/tags/melton/
Send me an email at mkeller234@yahoo.com if you would like to see any other details.
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AGE / VALUE:Matsushita Electric "National" posted by: Casey on 2/21/2009 at 8:42:34 AM
A friend just picked up this bike. It has a tag on front that reads: National
Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. Ltd.
I have been able to find out that Matsushita became Panasonic and that this bike is Japanese. Cool bike with all solid rod handbrakes (no cables) and rear drum brake. Nice little triangle shaped ornament mounted to top of front fender with Japanese? writing on it. Tires read: National Hyper Tire 26x138 Oversize. Any ideas on this bike.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Matsushita Electric posted by David on 2/22/2009 at 1:36:28 PM
Matsushita's main brand names are Panasonic and National. The founder of the company is a bike enthusiast and the company has made bikes for a long time, most recently under the Panasonic brand. Panaracer tires come from them, too. Yours seems like an older (50s or 60s?) roadster for domestic consumption not export. Cool.
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AGE / VALUE:CCM Minibike posted by: Miles Barette Duckworth on 2/18/2009 at 5:15:38 PM
I found a really old fixed gear by CCM but it is a mini bike with tires that you would find on a wagon. I can't find it in the pivture archives and I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me out with classifying it. I posted a picture,
thanks in advance!!


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RE:AGE / VALUE:CCM Minibike posted by Warren on 2/20/2009 at 6:48:31 AM
See if you can find a serial number for it on the seat tube lugs...if it's earlier than 1960, you'll likely find the date code here. http://oldroads.com/oldroads_files/329_24.jpg


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RE:AGE / VALUE:CCM Minibike posted by Miles Barette Duckworth on 2/22/2009 at 10:32:52 AM
Thanks Warren,
I tried to look there, but there is absolutely no marking anywhere on the bicycle, other that the CCM badge on the from of the Bicycle, I realised that the the picture i posted cannot be viewed, so i will try to add another later today.
thanks for the help though!


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RE:AGE / VALUE:CCM Minibike posted by Warren on 2/22/2009 at 5:52:52 PM
I can see the picture but more details will help. If it has the diamond shaped headbadge it's pre WWII.

Try contacting the host at this website...http://www.ccmflyte.com/

He has a wealth of information and many old catalogues from CCM.
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:CCM Minibike posted by Chris on 3/2/2009 at 6:51:16 PM
this could go back to the 1920's procede with caution! AWESOME
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RE:AGE / VALUE:CCM Minibike posted by Miles Barette Duckworth on 3/8/2009 at 12:40:18 PM
I found out what type of bicycle it is! According to Peter Cridland who was contacted for me by Mike Barry at bikespecialties.com my bicycle is a CCM DOuble Bar Cyclet No. 51 made between 1930 and 1935. I am going to try to find some way to get original parts to attempt at restoring it, any suggestions on where to get original parts? and thanks for the compliment Chris,


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AGE / VALUE:Older (60's?) Peugeot posted by: Paul on 2/18/2009 at 1:38:36 PM
Hi all, Recently acquired a Peugeot road bike that looks like it may be an older "build". I spent a lot of time on Peugot specific websites but just can quite identify the frame/age/model. Tall 63.5cm frame. It has the original paint(blue)and emblems(seat tube emblem has the b/w checker pattern top and bottom and "tube special Allege" sticker near top tube)though paint pretty chipped. No ser. # to be found. Original Normandy alu QR hubs and serrated steel rimes. Mid 60's or older MAFAC center pulls with half hoods (one cracked,one missing), cottered chrome crank/chainrings, Japanese Koyuto "Top Run" pedals. Upgraded Suntour GT derailleurs/stem shifters(one original down tube shifter mount is gone), not sure if unmarked alu stem and bars are original or not? Anyway, I plan on selling this or parting it out(your thoughts?). The brakes alone are worth a little dough, but don't know if I should part or keep it together? How mich should I ask if I keep it whole?(I'd like to keep it together, it's kinda cool) Thanks to any and all who reply with input!
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Older (60's?) Peugeot posted by Gralyn on 2/20/2009 at 1:30:21 PM
If the frame isn't too tall for you - keep it and ride it. It kind of sounds like an old Peugeot U-08 from the 1970's. I had a blue one....about a 61 cm frame.....it originally had the wheels as you describe, steel cranks, etc. Also, it had 1 braze on for the down-tube shifters. The shifter mount wraps around the down tube....one shifter fits onto the one braze on - and is held in place by a screw - the other shifter is mounted to the bracket itself. It's kind of the middle road between down tube shift braze ons and bolt-on down tube shifters. Unfortunately, I had to sell mine - but I really liked it. A real old nice classic bike.

e-mail me and I will send you some pics of mine....or you can e-mail me pics of yours - to see if it looks like the same model.
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AGE / VALUE:Murray 10 speed posted by: inaheap on 2/18/2009 at 2:42:38 PM
Trying to determine approximte age of a Murray Phoenix Team Racer 10 speed. Any help appreciated.
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MISC:Sutton Super 10 posted by: Brent Scott on 2/17/2009 at 11:28:47 PM
I acquired a bicycle I'm trying to find more information on:
Brand name:
Sutton
Made in Japan
"Super 10" on the top tube
"High Carbon Tubing" sticker on the seat tube.
10 speed bicycle.
Any information would be appreciated.
Thank you<
Brent Scott
Sunland, California


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RE:MISC:Sutton Super 10 posted by Dave on 7/26/2009 at 5:27:40 PM
I have one of those! It was my birthday present when I turned 13 in 1973. It's nearly all original. It's finally time to put new bearings on the crank or spindle. I was beginning to think I have the only one!

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AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Profil 2 posted by: Rob on 2/17/2009 at 4:25:25 PM
Hi I would like to have more information about a motobecane profil 2, I've bought one second hand.

The frame weights something about 2950grams (without fork), not really lightweight :-)

The bike was equipped with a Shimano Adamas AX group, which seemed to be lower end material.
Here is a page showing that particular group:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/shimano1982/pages/37-38.html

That page also talks about groupsets for 'oval' tubes, the adamas was not made for this, although it was on the second hand (oval tubed) I bought.

Here is a picture of a similar bike like mine:
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v/Scozzese/Bikes+123.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1

Although that one is using 2040 high resiliency tubing, mine 1020.

On ebay are some pictures of a motobecane profil 3:
http://cgi.ebay.com/frame-and-fork-MOTOBECANE-PROFIL-3-AERO-TUBING-_W0QQitemZ160314332188QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090207?IMSfp=TL090207132001r12348

The 'profil' model is not really a common motobecane model so I'm curious about it's history. Does any of you happen to know something extra about it ?

Like was it anything special and what's the story about the groupsets for oval tubing in '82, where oval tubed steel bikes common back then ?

I've attached a picture of the bike as I purchased it.


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RE:AGE / VALUE:���Motobecane Profil 2 posted by Warren on 2/17/2009 at 7:55:00 PM
The oval tubing was part of the "aero" thing that was going on in the early 80's as a result of changing technologies. Wind tunnels were showing performance improvements with these mods...rounded component edges, oval tubesets, shifters mounted on the top of the downtube etc. Todays modern composite and carbon bikes really can take advantage of aero designs in a way that steel frames couldn't. They just got heavier, nullifying the positive effects. The aero groups weren't specified for just aero bikes....they could go on any frameset. You did see a number of oval tubed bikes from different makers but it barely got beyond being a fad.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Profil 2 posted by Rob on 2/18/2009 at 2:55:14 AM
I'm planning on powdercoating the frame to black and put a mix of campagnolo chorus, fsa gossamer and some record bar-end shifters on the downtube on this frame, along with a carbon fork. Keeping only the originial handlebars and seatpost.

With those components, would you say just throw the frame and buy one worth the components or would it still be a sane choice ?
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Profil 2 posted by Warren on 2/18/2009 at 6:26:56 AM
Start with the best frame you can afford is the rule of thumb, even though I've violated that more than a few times. Especially for a competitive road bike. The frame could make a nice fixie or keep it original as a conversation piece. Someone might buy the whole groupo....those spindles are rare.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Profil 2 posted by Rob on 2/18/2009 at 8:42:29 AM
ok, thanks for your input.

Offcourse when I bought it I thought this frame had value (riding qualities).

I'm not sure what I shall do now, maybe just build it and wait for a better steel frame to come along.
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Profil 2 posted by Rob on 4/16/2009 at 1:26:01 PM
Build: http://velospace.org/node/18946 :-)
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Profil 2 posted by Aled on 3/3/2010 at 3:12:29 AM
Anyone have any info on the Profil 4? This has aero tubing, seat pillar and split seat tube
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Profil 2 posted by Jonathan on 4/19/2010 at 9:04:38 PM
Thought I'd chime in here as I just purchased one of these at a yard sale. It looks identical to the one in the wooljersey URL shown above, though mine somehow has an orange seat plus a chrome fork. It has Huret Allvit derailleurs, which I never heard of before and center pull brakes, that I don't recognize (again, like those in the picture. I plan to fix it up for my son. One issue is there seems to be no way to attache a water bottle. on the odd shaped tubing.
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MISC:I.D. number posted by: tim on 2/17/2009 at 1:46:14 AM
Aloha! I have a tandem, rear steer, might be a Colson 1931 to 40. It has no badge. It looks like the one you have pictured. The only numbers I have found are on the right side of the rear seat clamp. They are 806 or 306, the first number is hard to read. It also has the number 16 above that. It has a skip tooth chain. In the front sprocket housing, the bearings have a seat made out of wood. The rear steer is just two steel rods, no linkage.
I could sure use some help. Aloha Tim
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FOR SALE:1968 Peugot PX10 road bike posted by: Gary Main on 2/16/2009 at 10:56:37 PM
All original except has Sun tour vintage rear derailleur. Rest of the Simplex group and strong arm cranks intact. oem paint, stickers, bar tape, Mafac brakes, not perfect, but not abused. knurled rims stock. later saddle. yellow.
bike is a 7 or 8 as is, ride it home. fresh tuned abd lubed. $500. Age identified from ads and components
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MISC:Vintage Mountain Bike Discussion Area posted by: Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 2/15/2009 at 7:52:29 AM
Over 5 years ago we removed the Vintage Mountain Bike Discussion Area from OldRoads.
I don't remember why we removed it, but we've just added it back:

http://oldroads.com/d_mtb_def.asp?rec_count=1

-Vin


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