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MISC:   Vintage Diamond Back posted by: jack on 2/1/2009 at 11:03:59 PM
Well its been a few years since I've posted...hope everyone is well. Since it seems there isn't a Mtn category, I posting for info here in hopes... I found a vintage mtn bike (cantilevers, 26" whls) that has nice touches such as chromed Suntour dropouts, lugged frame and wrap'round seatstays. Tubing seems thin also so I'm hoping its a high-end mtn that I can convert to city beater.

What I'd like to know is make...it has a decal headbadge that just says "DB"...is it a Diamond Back (early w/ two words)? Model is sketchy but appears somethingSTREAM. Anyone know what this frame may be? Thanks for any and all responses.

jack
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MISC:   1970 Sears 5+2 speed posted by: Doohickie on 2/1/2009 at 9:55:54 PM
I picked up an interesting bike a couple weeks ago, and am looking for more information on it.

The headbadge is missing, but on the seat tube it says SEARS. I've seen similar bikes and the headbadge says Made in Austria (perhaps by Astro-Daimler?)

The drive train is funky: a Shimano Lark 5-speed derailleur (dating to about 1969-70), plus, as far as I can tell, a 2-speed internal hub activated by centrifugal force (i.e. shifts at a certain wheelspeed), with an adjustment that controls how fast you have to go before it shifts.

Pictures:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e341/Doohickie/09Sears/HPIM0518.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e341/Doohickie/09Sears/HPIM0521.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e341/Doohickie/09Sears/HPIM0522.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e341/Doohickie/09Sears/HPIM0535.jpg

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           RE:MISC:   1970 Sears 5+2 speed posted by Doohickie on 2/1/2009 at 10:09:00 PM
I thought I would also mention- the reason I'm trying to find out more about the hub setup is that the axle is partially stripped and needs to be repaired/replaced and I'm looking for some help as to how to proceed.

The shifting, by the way, works perfectly. On a short ride today I rowed through all the gears with the external derailleur and after getting into high gear it magically jumped into an even higher gear due to the internal hub. The sensation was just like snapping an old Sturmey Archer from 1st to 2nd, and it did it under load with no problems. It's a really neat setup.
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MISC:   1988 Trek 2000 posted by: Mike on 1/30/2009 at 8:56:27 AM
Hi - I hope someone here can help me. I just got a 1988/89 trek 2000 frame (aluminum). Does anyone have or remember the specs for this bike? What size is the front derailleur clamp? What was the original gearing? I am assuming it was a seven speed. Any help would be appreciated.
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           RE:MISC:   1988 Trek 2000 posted by Gralyn on 1/31/2009 at 1:40:07 PM
That's great!
I would love to find one of these old Trek aluminum bikes, too.
Try here:

http://www.vintage-trek.com/

It would be a good place to start - you may even find everything you're looking for there.
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           RE:MISC:   1988 Trek 2000 posted by Don Clemons on 2/2/2009 at 2:00:03 PM
Its been a while but I believe the 2000 was sold only as a frameset. The 1500 ( which I had) was the same frame built up (in 1989) with Shimano 600, and was a seven speed. I think these were among the prettiest Al frames produced at the time. Regards. Don
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           RE:RE:MISC:   1988 Trek 2000 posted by Gralyn on 2/2/2009 at 6:12:46 PM
Yes, I noticed in the catalog archives - that they had the Trek 2000's as frame sets - but I didn't realize they were exclusively sold as frame only. It's all very interesting.
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           RE:RE:MISC:   1988 Trek 2000 posted by john on 3/20/2009 at 3:05:40 PM
Fyi, I have a 1988 Trek 2000 with Dura Ace components which I would like to sell. I am the original owner, can provide pictures if interested. Has tubulars, and is in great condition, frame size is 61cm.


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MISC:   Miami Sun Deluxe Bicycle posted by: Ted on 1/21/2009 at 9:44:52 PM
Picked up a Miami Sun Deluxe bicycle recently. Wondering if someone can help me track down history on these bikes. The current Miami Sun folks said it's a model prior to their purchasing the company.
The bike has 26 1&3/8 wheels, had a Sturmey Archer hub but too rusty to read date, nice head badge with Miami Sun Bicycles and Supply over a rising sun. Cottered cranks and single chainring. Frame is a lugged steel frame in the basic diamond design. Lugs have much character in their shape. The front fork is very Raleigh like with horizontal tube over the forks rather than a crown.

I'm building up to a city bike in single speed to store at the office. Don't care about value, just when made and any info. someone can share.
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           RE:MISC:   Miami Sun Deluxe Bicycle posted by David on 1/22/2009 at 3:35:08 PM
Sounds like it's probably Raleigh-built. Check for characteristic features. See www.sheldonbrown.com
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AGE / VALUE:   help have oldie posted by: Lisa on 1/19/2009 at 1:05:13 PM
I have a war grade elgin thats almost identical to the one pictured in this site.what is it worth. I have had it for years and have looked all over and cant find anyone who knows anything about it or its value. thank you ps not for sale
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   help have oldie posted by jj on 1/20/2009 at 5:07:34 AM
Use the black Google search box above. There are a lot or references to war grade elgins in the archives.
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WANTED:   Motobecane Nomade posted by: Paul Hinzpeter on 1/17/2009 at 4:43:56 PM
I have been given an old Motobecane Nomade which is missing a right brake handle. I do not know how old it is. Please let me know where I can go to get one.

Thanks!
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           RE:WANTED:   Motobecane Nomade posted by Gralyn on 1/17/2009 at 7:49:53 PM
I bet lots of folks here have plenty of those brake levers lying around - I know I do. Let me know what the left one is (Weinmann, Dia Compe, Mafac, etc. and whether it has those safety levers (for applying the brakes from the top of the handle bars) - and I could send you one.
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           RE:RE:WANTED:   Motobecane Nomade posted by Paul Hinzpeter on 1/18/2009 at 12:48:08 PM
Thank you for the reply. I am very interested if you have this right hand brake with safety levers. The manufacturer of the brakes is Dia Compe. Please let me know if you have one and how much you want and I would be happy to send you the money.
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AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Traveler age posted by: Harold D. Pickett on 1/17/2009 at 10:19:29 AM
Hi, Folks. My very first web post (of any kind) on a discussion site. Please bear with me if it is evident I am a “newbie”. Within the last year, I have begun cycling for fun and exercise and really got interested in a good road bike. Seriously considering a 2009 S1 Cervelo when available. In prep for this new ride, thought might be a good idea to get new pedals, Speedplay Light action (SS) and shoes, Sidi Zetas and practice engaging and dis-engaging pedals on a bike other than a brand new Cervelo S1, considering there would probably be a few “Artie Johnson impressions from Laugh-In” (just “aged” myself, didn‘t I). Looked for a used road bike on Craigs list and located a Schwinn Traveler, very reasonable pricewise. Thought I could always use the extra bike (can you have too many???) as spare or possibly a donor bike for a pipedream homebuilt recumbent down the road.
Back to the Traveler. While cleaning up the old beater, noticed several known name brand components and several not known to me. Wanted to determine age of bike and started researching and then got really confused (not difficult for me on most days). Thought I would throw out the info and numbers I have found on the bike and see if anyone could help me discern a date of manufacture. Really enjoy your discussion forum and would appreciate any and all feedback.
Bike info:
Schwinn Traveler 12 speed road bike
Frame--white fork and front 6 inches of top tube and down tube are white, fades into dark green aqua to rear. Schwinn badge on head tube with stamped number (0858) in lower left quadrant. This should mean manufactured late March of 19?8,I would think ’78 or ’88. Schwinn decal on seat post tube in white, TRU-TEMPER decal at bottom of seat post, with what appears an “eagle head” in gold and “Made in USA” across bottom, all wording with red background. “Traveler” on top tube in black underscored by yellow-gold bar. White painted bottle holder attached to braze ins on down tube with “Paramount” name across bow. (am aware that Paramount was another Schwinn model available during po0ssible same time period).
Here is conflict of manu. date. On under side of bottom bracket housing is number (serial???) stamped in, C891381. Research shows numbers on bottom bracket indicate pre-1960 but letter © and 6 digits do not show up until much later (70’s and 80”s) but never this high of a number. Hence, my confusion.
Components--Shimano Light Action down tube shifters, Shimano Light Action rear der. And Shimano Clamp on mount front der. (FD-Z204 Shimano Japan on frame side of chain guide on der).
Dia-Compe center pivot lever arm brake calipers (front and rear) with Dia-compe hooded brake levers.
Sakae SX 3 piece crank set (170 mm) (SR Japan) on back of right crank arm with double chain rings (52-40). Rear cassette is 14-28. Have not found other markings (yet).
Maillard hubs (front and rear) made in France with “Sachs Maillard” on the quick release skewer levers front and rear.
Weinmann 415X Alloy wheels (interesting “concave” profile on inner diameter of rim) TRTO 630 x 15 Patent 27 x 1 ¼” Made in Belgium. Tires are slick type with “yellow” sidewall ( like gum tires) embossed during molding with “made in Japan”, “inflate to 105 PSI” and “Nylon”. Also each tire has “painted” label Schwinn Record VR 27 x 1 1/8” 105 psi.
Seat post has SR Laprade cast in, is aluminum and has a San Marco saddle .
Headtube assy. Is Tange made in Japan, Black forward set steerer with “custom” engraved and an aluminum race handle bar by Sakae. Two “floral wreath emblems,with SR at top, 1 each side of steerer. Left wreath is engraved “Sakae Custom Japan” and right wreath is engraved Road champion.
One last note, and a cycling friend tells me this is a TOTAL NONO in the serious biking community. This bike does have a bolt-on Kickstand with the mounting on the frame between the chain stay spreaders and the seat tube.
Hope this is not too much info but would appreciate any feedback. Have a great day and “Spin Hard”, it makes you free.

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Traveler age posted by Gralyn on 1/17/2009 at 11:35:02 AM
I love those old USA Schwinn Travelers. It appears from your description you probably have a 1988 or 1989 model. The frame finish description, the True Temper frame tubing, and the date stamped on the head badge - indicate this. I had 4 of these - all with cranks drilled for 3 chain rings. However, none of the Travelers I had actually came with the 3rd chain ring. I bought the small chain rings and installed them. I only have 1 left now - It's an '87 or '88 model (I can't remember for sure). It has a lot of scratches, and dent on the top tube at the first braze-on for the rear brake cable - and the braze-on is missing). But other than that - the frame is good - nothing that would affect structural integrity.

Here is a link for some Schwinn Catalogs. See if you have find yours in the catalogs:

http://www.trfindley.com/flschwinn_1980_1990/index.html

Enjoy!

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Traveler age posted by Harold on 1/17/2009 at 7:33:52 PM
Thanks for the link. 500+ pages of great interesting info. You were right, 1988 Traveler, appears to be totally original. forgot to mention it has a great retro Paramount 6 function computer. Bike is in great shape, a few paint finish abrasions, nothing major. slight damage on one rear corner of the San Marco saddle. But for the price I "stole" it at, I'm completely thrilled and probably will not make it a donor. Too neat of a bike to sacrafice.
Thanks again for the info. Happy Pedaling!!!!!
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AGE / VALUE:   Centurion Sport DLX posted by: Gralyn on 1/15/2009 at 2:13:46 PM
I recently purchased a Centurion Sport DLX. I believe it's a 1988 model - based on component dates. I recently owned a Centurion Accordo - the frame of the Accordo and the Sport DLX appear to be identical - down to paint scheme.....everything except the model name. My accordo was Green/White and my Sport DLX is Yellow/White.

My question: were there several models of Centurion using the same frame - but just different components?

I thought the Sport DLX was mostly original....but the more I got into it - the more doubts I have. For one - it had a Shimano 600 freewheel with 6-speed (13-18 teeth). I'm pretty sure that was not original. The crank set had the holes drilled for a 3rd chain ring. I was really pleased to discover this. However, it would not accommodate the 3rd chain ring with it's existing bottom bracket spindle. Another item - the brakes: It has Centurion branded bars - with aero levers - and original vinyl bar tape (it was identical to my Accordo). However, the front brake caliper cable connection was on the left side - rather than on the right. When the front brake cable is routed under the bar tape with aero levers - the brake caliper cable attachment is always on the right side (so the cable doesn't have to make a sharp bend back in the same direction). So, I'm thinking that maybe the brake calipers were not original. They are dia compes - same as the levers - and they had recessed allen bolt attachment - but they just have the cable attachments on the wrong side.
It has a nice Mavic wheel set - and it dates to 1987. My Accordo had a Weinmann wheel set.
It has Shimano light action down tube shifters.

Some things that were maybe different between the Accordo and the Sport Dlx: The Sport DLX had steel chain rings and steel "Centurion" branded bars. The Shimano ders look to be mostly stamped steel construction.

I'm re-building it: Completely stripped the frame, re-greased, polished, waxed, replaced the bottom bracket spindle to accomodate the triple chain rings, replaced the chain rings with alloy chain rings (52,42, 26), replaced the tires, replaced the bars with alloy bars, replaced the ders with a nicer Sun Tour set with more aluminum, replaced the brake calipers with a Sun Tour set with cable routing on the correct side. I will probably put a 7-speed on the rear - with a wider range.
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MISC:   New Collector help!!! posted by: Steve on 1/12/2009 at 10:54:13 PM
I recently purchased a 1954 Schwinn Tiger from ebay. Upon reciept I put the bike together as it was broken down for shipping. Mechanically it seem to be in good working condition. My question is this, I want to perform mainteneance such as packing bearings, lubricating and rust mainteneance without effecting the integrity of the bike. I know origional means just that, I want to be able to ride this bike and keep it for a long time. what types of grease rsut inhibitors ect should I use? Thanks
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           RE:MISC:   New Collector help!!! posted by jj on 1/13/2009 at 5:17:58 AM
Use automotive grease you probably already have for all bearings.
While the crank and fork are off (if you're doing those bearings) spray the inside of the frame tubes with WD-40.

Clean up the chrome and paint but don't ever re-paint it.
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AGE / VALUE:   What Year is it? posted by: warts on 1/10/2009 at 8:47:40 PM
I have an Evans \ Colson 1950's Commander. It has both names on it. My research says Evans Products Co. of Plymouth Michigan bought Colson Bicycle Co. a Ohio company in 1954. They put both Evans an Colson on the label for a short time, how long? Then they just used Evans on the label. Serial number is 8187079026 anyone know when it was built? It does not look like it ever had that special spring shock on the front fender like I see on almost all Evans Commander. So, when was it built, and what is it's value?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   What Year is it? posted by Warren on 1/11/2009 at 1:17:11 AM
Try the Balloon tire and Middleweights discussion board
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AGE / VALUE:   Clipper Miss posted by: E on 1/9/2009 at 11:22:40 PM
I have a Clipper Miss Columbia bicycle. I would like to know what year it was made.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Clipper Miss posted by K on 2/19/2011 at 12:19:24 PM
Did you ever find anything out about it? I have one too-- I can't find info ANYWHERE.

It's a great bike, a little heavy but much character :)
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AGE / VALUE:   Vintage Sintesi posted by: Duane on 1/9/2009 at 2:18:13 PM
I just picked up a Sintesi "Comp" with Shimano 600 all around.
Any history on this bike or value?
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AGE / VALUE:    posted by: JOEL on 1/9/2009 at 8:23:48 AM
I recently scored a 1980s Gios Torino road bike, full Dura Ace 12sp, and a cool purple/green/blue splash paintjob. The left chainstay has a Cyclart emblem (painted on - not a decal) Does anyone know if Cyclart painted these bikes?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by Warren on 1/9/2009 at 7:04:25 PM
CyclArt is a well known restorer/painter of classic lightweights. Not an original finish but likely high end. Most all Torinos were blue with white panels or the inverse. It's what you want.

Do you have the coins or the sloping fork crown? That's another bike I've always wanted to have. 54 cm perhaps?
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by JOEL on 1/10/2009 at 10:27:14 AM
Actually, Cyclart does painting for manufacturers too according to the website. That blue/white color scheme seems to be a Gios trademark and this bike is a big departure from that. Maybe custom??

This frame is obviously very high end, has nicely finished lugs, cutouts in the BB, internal cable routing, and embossed stays. It does NOT have the coin fork crown. The Mallard hubs are dated 82 and everything seems to fit the year. The splatter/fade paint scheme is exactly the sort of thing that was trendy in 82.

Sheldon says there are knockoff Gios bikes too, but his info is vague. Anyone know how to ID the genuine product?
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by Warren on 1/10/2009 at 2:02:34 PM
Cyclart and other professional restorers won't paint and decal a bike that they suspect is a fake. They won't even sell you decals or artwork without applying it themselves. Have you called them? They may have a history for you.

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           RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by JOEL on 1/10/2009 at 3:16:28 PM
Good point.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by David on 1/11/2009 at 9:49:44 AM
I haven't heard that anyone imported unpainted Gioses, so the Cyclart paint job is almost certainly a repaint. But Gios is a good make and Cyclart is a good painter, so you've got yourself a classy ride.
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AGE / VALUE:   would like info posted by: jim on 1/7/2009 at 3:25:40 PM
I own a bike which i restored bout 8 yrs ago its called an invader and looks to be bout 100 yrs old. if i remember correctly,the serial # is 1932 and is located under the cranks. any info would be appreciated. The bike was red and white origionally.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   would like info posted by David on 1/8/2009 at 8:14:32 AM
I suspect it's not 100 yrs old, but without pictures, no one can help you.
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AGE / VALUE:   Sakae Ringyo posted by: Nate on 1/5/2009 at 11:13:18 PM
I have a Sakae Ringyo frame; yes it reall is. It has a Serial number of S9K6033. I am trying to find out more about this bicycle; I love the thing. It seems likely it was built circa 1979 in Southern CA? Can you tell me more?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Sakae Ringyo posted by David on 1/6/2009 at 11:36:33 AM
Is it an "SR" frame or a "Sakae Ringyo" frame? I think the component maker and the frame maker are different.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Sakae Ringyo posted by Warren on 1/6/2009 at 4:15:02 PM
David is right. SR was an American company who imported Japanese production frames and kitted them out. I have an SR Triathalon from around 82. The only thing "tri" about it is a 56 cm top tube mated with a 54 cm seat tube. Made you stretch out more....or buy a shorter stem.

A well made frame with nicely executed lugs. Here it is in it's current mode as a fixie, short stem and all.

http://oldroads.com/oldroads_files/329_10.jpg
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