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AGE / VALUE:   Motobecane/Raleigh posted by: Putnam Merriam on 1/5/2009 at 5:21:09 PM
Last week at a junk store, I picked up 2 old bikes to
add to my restoration collection, that roused my
curiosity.
One is a Motobecane Nomade II.....The other is a
Raleigh Rapide. Both are ladies models, and both
have identical frames!
I found a catalog picture of the Raleigh ('81 I think)
at jaysmarine.com, but can't find much at all for the
Motobecane Nomade II. It does look identical, with
the exact features, as the Raleigh Rampar R-2L, shown
on jaysmarine.com/TH_Raleigh_Cat_78_13.html
Surely a different style of frame, but neat in a way.
Both will be ground-up restores.......for sale
in early Summer, along with 4 other "10 speed classics"
finished this Winter. (I'm retired....this keeps the
cheese from slipping off the cracker).
If anyone has any literature on a Nomade II......
I'd love to hear back. Thanx, Putnam.

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AGE / VALUE:   Viscount Super singlespeed posted by: Chris on 1/5/2009 at 12:26:29 PM
I'm looking for some info about a frame that was given to me. It is a lugged singlespeed with a Centrix coaster brake. The head tube metallic decal says "Viscount" and the seat tube decal says "Super". The rear brake mount is stamped "ESGE", "Made in Germany", "Lizenz Pletscher". The serial from the BB is 3917748.
The stamps on the brake mount are all the same as an old Sear 5 speed I found. Was this another US department store brand, when they still sold good bikes?

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Viscount Super singlespeed posted by David on 1/8/2009 at 8:11:50 AM
It's not the English Viscount/Lambert, that's for sure! The brake mount is probably a flat plate intended as a mount for a Pletscher "mousetrap" luggage rack (German ESGE makes Swiss Pletscher products under license). This part is very commonly found on German bikes. Sears bikes were usually made by the Austrian Steyr-Daimler-Puch company and the same components would be used as on German bikes.
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AGE / VALUE:   Here's a nice little item... posted by: Mike on 1/5/2009 at 9:23:17 AM
Ebay: 160308218700
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Here's a nice little item... posted by Sammy on 1/6/2009 at 7:15:54 AM
Nice. But is it bogus?????
http://www.hetchins.org/904.htm
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Here's a nice little item... posted by David on 1/6/2009 at 11:31:20 AM
Looks right, the provenance is plausible, right builder, reliable seller. Bid away!
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MISC:    Raleigh Super Course info help, please posted by: Uni on 1/5/2009 at 8:31:06 AM
Does the 1973 & 1974 SC have a more relaxed touring geometry than the SC MK II
Are all of the Pre MK II SC known as MKI?
Thanks,
Uni
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           RE:MISC:    Raleigh Super Course info help, please posted by David on 1/6/2009 at 11:32:55 AM
I don't think there's a Mark I. (You don't call someone John Senior before John Junior is born.)
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           RE:MISC:    Raleigh Super Course info help, please posted by Steve on 1/6/2009 at 1:21:40 PM
The frames ARE different, though I'm not sure I'd describe the MkII as more relaxed. I have one of each, both 20.5" size. Wheelbase is the same, at about 41.5". However, the earlier Super Course has chainstays of 17.5" and a top tube of 22". The MkII's stays are 17" and the top tube 22.5" In addition, the stays themselves are different. The Super Course has the usual round-oval-round with a dimple to clear the chainring. The MkII's stays are round all the way, tapering in a couple of steps. Bottom line is that the Super Course has a bit more heel clearance with panniers, while the MkII has more toe-clip clearance for low-speed maneuvering. The MkII seems to be the more lively frame, to me rivalling the full-531 Gran Sport.
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AGE / VALUE:   Can anyone help identify this frame posted by: Peti on 1/4/2009 at 10:18:14 AM
Have a very nice frame minus a rear wheel, which I would like to identify. The bars & Stem - Cinell, Brakes - Weinmann 610, Brake Levers - Superbe, Headset - Tange, Seat Post/Cranks/Pedals/Chainring (57) - Campagnolo, Front/Rear Mech - Campagnolo. Have posted pics of frame, lugs and seat stay wrap over. I hope to have this bike restored back to its former glory for touring this coming summer.


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AGE / VALUE:   Vintage MERLIN, but don't think Bob Jackson's posted by: Peti on 1/4/2009 at 7:05:09 AM
Have a vintage Merlin which I am not certain, but think may be pre 1955 when Bob Jackson took over the name brand. The hubs - Bayliss Willis, B/Bracket - Perry & Co Ltd, Rear Free - The Villiers Model Delux, Head Badge - Merlin & the frame number 18453. Have not found any makers marks on the chainring or cranks, stem or bars yet and the brakes are early Cantilever brake I know there was a connection with Bayliss and Perry at the early part of the 1900s but never thought they continued to use the Perry brand name.


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FOR SALE:   Early 80's Fuji bicycle posted by: Greg on 1/2/2009 at 7:54:01 AM
I have a fuji bike dating to the early 80's that has an emblem that says the following. "Chrome molyboenum double butted steel tubing 331" I was wondering the value and if there is a market for it!

Greg Calvert
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           RE:FOR SALE:   Early 80's Fuji bicycle posted by David on 1/2/2009 at 4:35:55 PM
Depends on model and condition. The tubing indicates a better frame. I think there's a real collector market only for the top-of-the-line "professional" models.
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           RE:RE:FOR SALE:   Early 80's Fuji bicycle posted by Warren on 1/3/2009 at 4:11:22 AM
I agree with David. It has the good tubeset. I've posted an 81 Fuji catalog here. These are all good bikes. I wish I had the track frame.

http://oldroads.com/oldroads_files/329_17.jpg

This era of Japanese bikes are generally undervalued compared to their European counterparts.
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MISC:   columbia sports tourist victory bicycle posted by: paul on 12/31/2008 at 7:57:43 AM
hi i have recently acquired a columbia sports tourist victory cycle with skip tooth crank it is in good original condition any info on this model would be good as i know zip about them .I live in Nottingham England the home of Robin Hood and Raliegh bicycles and worked at the cycle factory for a number of years sadly it as gone now .I have a few american cycles but know very little about them .They are not easy to get over here Bbut i do own lots of English cycles Anyway i do hope someone can help photos would be good
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MISC:   How to Pack and Ship a Bicycle posted by: Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles on 12/26/2008 at 8:14:43 AM
We've added instructions on how to pack and ship a cycle.
It is under "Technical Resources" at the top of every page.
If we missed anything, please let us know.
-Vin


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           RE:MISC:   How to Pack and Ship a Bicycle posted by Gralyn on 12/26/2008 at 10:58:58 AM
I try to pack them much like they are currently being packed from the factories today: leaving the rear wheel installed - removing the front wheel only. One tip for derailler bicycles - shift the derailler to the largest cog - this will move the derailler closer-in - and will minimize opportunity for it to become damaged.
It's difficult today - if you are trying to package an older lightweight bike - because many of the bike boxes are not tall enough (and, you want to try and get all the box dimensions within the numbers so that it doesn't end up being "over-size" - which can add about $50 or so to your shipping cost)
Anyway, I just wanted to add the tip of shifting the derailler to 1st gear.
It's really different for each type of bike.....what type bars it has, whether it has fenders and racks, lights, etc.
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           RE:RE:MISC:   How to Pack and Ship a Bicycle posted by Warren on 12/26/2008 at 2:36:02 PM
I always cut a stick of wood to fit between the fork ends and secure it with screws and washers.
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           RE:MISC:   How to Pack and Ship a Bicycle posted by David on 12/30/2008 at 4:55:35 PM
I also remove the derailer from the frame and just leave it on the chain. Wrap it with some bubble wrap or something. If left on the frame, it sticks out and can bend or break off the derailer hanger.
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           RE:MISC:   How to Pack and Ship a Bicycle posted by Rich on 12/30/2008 at 8:00:28 PM
1" foam water pipe insulation tubes are excellent to prevent frame from being scratched or dinged during shipping. Costs about $2 for enough to do a bike or two. 6" squares of 1/4" plywood prevent axles and fork ends from going through box. Glue the in place with Liquid Nails.
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MISC:   colnago TT frame (moscow olympics?) posted by: Michael D~Arcy on 12/26/2008 at 6:41:17 AM
Hello, I have an old colnago tt frame. it is almost identical to the one in the link(see below). BUT, mine has a top tube which curves down towards the front AND rear stays which curve and join onto the seat tube about 4 inches down from the seat tube top.It uses very small diametre seatpost(less than 24mm) and requires a stem with a miniscule diametre.
LINK : http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/v...mpic/?g2_page=6

Can anyone tell me anything about this frame? And where I could get a hold of a seatpost and stem to fit it?

Many thanks, michael


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           RE:MISC:   colnago TT frame (moscow olympics?) posted by Keith Body on 12/27/2008 at 12:03:41 PM
From your description it seems similar to the hour record bike that Gimondi? used, can't remember when. Is it a track bike?
I looked at the Colnagos, but your links do not work, the picture link is too long.
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           RE:MISC:   colnago TT frame (moscow olympics?) posted by michael darcy on 12/28/2008 at 7:16:03 AM
thanks for replying. It's not a track bike since it has derailleur hangers in addition to an integrated front brake pivot(behind the fork crown). I picked it up in a village in South France where it was left by an ex professional. The most similar frame I have found is on www.wooljersey.com where it is described as a USSR team replica for the Moscow Olyipics.
Cheers,
mike
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AGE / VALUE:   Rare VeloSolex Etoile posted by: Tentacle Master on 12/23/2008 at 7:37:38 AM
My friend has recelty aquired a VeloSolex Etoile (bicycle not a moped), and from what we can google it might be THE VeloxSolex Etoile. After comparing a picture others on the internet, all the scratch marks line up. It was orignaly owned (assumed) by a Tom Newman due to the painted on name on the bike. A picture showed it with a gold front brake and we think it came with other gold components, though they are no longer on the bike. Any info regarding this one of a kind bike would be great. A picture is here http://renaissancebicycles.com/photography/Velosolex-side-view-wm.html
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rare VeloSolex Etoile posted by Warren on 12/23/2008 at 1:50:34 PM
Interesting bike but what is THE Velosolex as compared to just normal ones? What are "the scratch marks"? I couldn't find anything about it.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rare VeloSolex Etoile posted by kt on 1/22/2009 at 12:00:55 PM
i have the velosolex now... i also cannot find the brakes for it... who ever owned it before us "parted it out".

Im currently repainting and labeling the frame exactly how it was.


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rare VeloSolex Etoile posted by keaton on 5/12/2009 at 7:04:16 PM
i have the etoile... i'm trying to restore it the best I can.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rare VeloSolex Etoile posted by Reese on 8/3/2009 at 6:17:10 PM
I owned one of the very first of these in the US in the early 70's. I worked in a bike shop that sold Velosolex and I ordered this from the wholesaler. It came with top end french components: Mafac gold competition brakes, Simplex gold LJ with retrofriction levers, Gallet saddle and micoadjust post and a number of other quite unique parts. I recall that while I worked at this shop on Long Island one summer the rep from france came to ask me how I liked the bike. Some famous ex racer but I do not recall who he was.
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AGE / VALUE:   1967 Raleigh Sports, ladies posted by: Steve on 12/19/2008 at 9:12:05 AM
I posted a NICE 1967 ladies Raleigh Sports for sale. look here;
http://oldroads.com/d_fsw_ra.asp?OQID=13751&QuestionNum=13751&RID=0
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AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Vintage posted by: Pete on 12/17/2008 at 8:28:41 PM
I have a vintage 3 speed Sturmey-Archer Raleigh. Hub number is 74 11. Frame number is NS4215552. Can anyone tell me the approximate manufacture date and relative value?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Vintage posted by David on 12/18/2008 at 11:12:05 AM
Probably built in 75. Value depends on luck and condition: anywhere from $25 to over $200.
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MISC:   Rename this Discussion Area posted by: Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles on 12/17/2008 at 3:45:15 PM
It has been suggested we rename this Discussion Area from:
"Vintage Lightweights"
to:
"Lightweights" or "10-speeds" or something like that.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Vin
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           RE:MISC:   Rename this Discussion Area posted by Warren on 12/17/2008 at 7:41:48 PM
Why? This would open the discussions to modern lightweights and there's already lots of websites for that.

If you're asking for a vote....nay!
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           RE:MISC:   Rename this Discussion Area posted by Gralyn on 12/17/2008 at 9:01:59 PM
I like "Vintage Lightweights". I know I often times have questions or comments on older lightweight bikes......but I'm never sure on just how new is too new for this group. My newest bikes are about 1990 - 1992 or so. I suspect a 2005 model bike is really too new for a "Vintage Lightweight" group. .....but maybe "Vintage Lightweight" is really pre-bike boom bikes - before the 1970's......but most all the bikes I have are from the bike boom and beyond.
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           RE:MISC:   Rename this Discussion Area posted by David on 12/18/2008 at 11:15:07 AM
It's pretty clear the site is devoted to old bikes. Would there be more "mis-postings" concerning carbon fiber bikes than there are postings for anything old and rusty that's NOT a lightweight?
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           RE:RE:MISC:   Rename this Discussion Area posted by ken on 12/18/2008 at 12:26:06 PM
I'd leave it as is, but I think some definitions near the top of the home page would help. Occasional misposts can be found in each category, but the words vintage and lightweight are easily misinterpreted by newbies. I think it might be time for a new FAQ too - including answers to questions that should be frequently asked, but maybe aren't, like, What category does my bike belong in? and, What info do I need to find out what this thing is worth?

These discussion areas are great, in a class by themselves, because courtesy begets courtesy - anybody can post without getting flamed, and reasonable questions get answered. Thanks again, Vin.
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           RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Rename this Discussion Area posted by Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles on 12/19/2008 at 4:39:44 AM
Ok, consensus says we’ll keep the name the same. Thanks for all of your input.

Regarding the FAQ – yes, that could use a little work. If anyone has any suggestions, please post them here or email them.

Also, we’re putting the finishing touches on a “How to Pack and Ship a Bicycle” page. You can find the discussion under the English Roadster topic. We’re also looking for tips and opinions there, too.

Thanks and Happy Holidays,
Vin

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AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by: Peti on 12/17/2008 at 2:46:44 PM
I have an vintage bike which I need help to identify.
The bike was sold in the UK by Joe Clementson, Darlington and advertised as a Lightweight Speciality. The gears are Sturmey Archer AF 9, Seat Post & Bars Citan and engraved on the bars is S. Maes M. Kint - Depose Bevete - two Belgian top class riders from the 30s & 40s. The brakes are by Bowden Sport - the spokesare a four cross-over and soldered on the fourth cross. It is very light in wieght and drab in colour and must have been a class bike in it's day. When I work out how to upload a picture I will, but untill then any views would be welcome.

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by Keith Body on 12/18/2008 at 12:46:46 PM
Titan bars were popular late 50's to early 60's. About 14/15 inches wide, later thought to be a bit narrow. What is a UK lightweight doing with a SA gear? I will look at your pics when they arrive.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by David on 12/19/2008 at 8:31:38 AM
Are you sure the gear is Sturmey AF? (I haven't heard of that model) Plenty of lightweight English bikes had SA hubs; often FM, AM, AC, and ASC models.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by jj on 12/23/2008 at 5:59:09 AM
The gear is most certainly SA - AF 9 Four Speed Close Ratio


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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by jj on 12/23/2008 at 5:59:59 AM
Pictures corrected


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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by jj on 12/23/2008 at 6:00:31 AM
Pictures corrected


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by Keith Body on 12/24/2008 at 9:26:47 AM
My view is that it is early to mid 1950's. Bronze weld 1 1/8" top tube the sort of frame that Claud Butler made by the 100, as did many small makers, fairly cheaply. I would suspect it was put together for someone fairly old, with pre-war cycling experience. Very unususal to have SA gear, (not referring to Raleigh production here but lightweight cycles). Don't believe Raleigh adverts, The SA gear would not stand vigorous riding. Original finish with correctly named double box lining typical of the time. I can see a dunlop HP (high pressure) chrome plated rear rim probably 27". Odd to see the spokes rusted, at this time spokes were either zinc plated or stainless. I had a direct account with Britannia mudguards, and bought spokes 100 gross at a time. The owner probably took the resilion front brake from a previous machine. These were considered quite good in the 1930's. Quite common to have a 16 tooth cog on the closer ratios.
It was easy to make frames like this, all you needed was a vice, oxyacetalene flame, a piece of string, and possibly a home made alignment tool, plus simple hand tools.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by peti on 12/24/2008 at 9:58:26 AM
Thanks for your reply and info, but unfortunatley it does not all fit the history. The fifties is probably right, but being cobbled together for someone old no. It came from a couple who were very keen touring cyclists. They had bought the bike from new and both would often cycle from the UK and around mainland Europe. These were really dedicated riders of the day and i think bought a machine too match.

I have also discovered a marking on the front whell AVA INOXY, whoever they are.

Thanks


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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Need help to identify this bike posted by Hilary Stone on 12/24/2008 at 10:14:09 AM
I think Cycles Supra was a Belgian bike brand - I would guess that this was a Belgian made frame that was imported and then fitted out with a mix of British and continental importers by Clementson. This The Sturmey Archer AF is the pre-war version of the 4-speed close ratio gear - then it was called the FC. It was introduced early in 1939. The Bowden Sport brakes also date from this same period - I would think the presence of both these dates the bike to 1939-40. Contrary to popular belief bikes were still built all the way through the war by most small builders who used up stocks of components. AF and FC gears are pretty robust as long as they are kept adjusted correctly. Titan bars and stems were available pre-war and were in the Fonteyn catalogue for 1938. Do you have a picture of the complete bike?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by peti on 12/24/2008 at 11:16:11 AM
That's sounds about right and thank you for the SUPRA connection to as a Belgium name. When I was given this bike a couple of years ago. I was told it was about 50 years old and a well used expensive touring bike.


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by peti on 12/24/2008 at 11:27:06 AM
I need to fit the front wheel and will then post a shot of the whole bike.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by peti on 12/24/2008 at 12:02:33 PM
Well Hilary, AVA was/is a brand name of French company Mavic, or it's owner. Manufacturer of high quality handlebars, stems and seat posts. Introduced aluminum handlebars before 1934 and the first popular aluminium rims in 1932, so it's looks like 1939/40 is about right.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by Keith Body on 12/24/2008 at 12:15:20 PM
The AVA front rim is a later replacement. I still think the parts look older than the frame, I thought because it was someone's particular choice. The frame looks British, if the bottom bracket is made from a plain tube with a Bayliss Wiley internal sleeve carrying the bearing cups then we will know. The frame was made for multi chain gear use, when you look at the rear fork ends and the clearance. This and the crimped chain stays give it a continental flavour, but most Belgian frames from that time were built with thick lugs.
Hi Hilary, you've been reading the Raleigh ads too.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by peti on 12/24/2008 at 1:47:18 PM
Thanks Keith, not knowing the industry like yourselves. I appreciate your comments.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by Warren on 12/24/2008 at 4:43:17 PM
Just a data point on the bottom bracket. CCM's also used the sleeved BW bottom bracket from the early 30's to the 50's so the practice wasn't limited to just brit bikes.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by peti on 12/26/2008 at 10:51:18 AM
The Sturmey-Archer AF 9. I have now gained a lot of information regarding this and almost all S A hubs. It was introduced in 1938 untill 1939 then replaced in 1940 by the now rare FC four speed close ratio, a hub for club cyclists. The GC 4 trigger was used with the AF 9, which now need to check.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by peti on 12/27/2008 at 2:23:51 PM
Have gain some more info. To date, seat post - Titan, Head Badge - SUPRA, Seat Post - Titan, Bars - Maes, Front Brake - The Cantilever Brake. Rear Brake - Bowden Sports, Gear Sturmey Archer AF-8, Wheels - marked AVA INOXY, Crankset - FB which I assume is Fratelli Brivio,Pedals - TANK, Bottom Bracket - Bayliss Wiley (WF Special Course?)and I now have a frame number letterset stamped BBF 1223 located on the rear drop-out. All I need now is to identify the frame and SUPRA Cycles.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by peti on 12/27/2008 at 3:32:24 PM
have added a couple of pictures


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by Keith Body on 12/29/2008 at 9:58:21 AM
If that's a lamp bracket boss on the RH fork blade then definitely British. Appears to have a Stronglite head set?
Supra looks like a badge added later, could have been one of many trade makers supplying for "own tranfers". The double box lining goes behind the badge. Not so many used 1 1/8" top tube. Also doesn't show much sign of touring equipment being clipped on. Must have been built from old stock.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by peti on 12/29/2008 at 4:09:16 PM
Yes it is a Stronglight Head set and the front hub is BH Airlite and there is also a lamp boss on the right fork.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Need help to identify this bike posted by Hilary Stone on 12/31/2008 at 2:02:42 PM
The engraving on the Titan bars is the pre-war version - post-WWII the engraving was very different. Most of the parts - the Sturmey AF, the Bowden Sport, the Resilion, the Titan parts, the Airlite and the Dunlop Special Lightweight rear rim are all of the same period, just pre-WWII. Cycles Supra were definitely a Belgian bike maker. The long fork offset and welded construction are typical features of continental built machines at the time. The bottom bracket I think you will find is not BW but TWF, a Belgian maker of bottom bracket cups and axles. The TWF logo runs the T, the W and the F all together. Bayliss Wiley never used terms such as Special Course...The Tank pedals are French and were pre-WWII.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by Keith Body on 1/1/2009 at 1:24:39 PM
Hilary is surely correct, the only oddity left is the lamp bracket boss, possibly added later, then repainted, head badge then fixed over the double box lining. Pure conjecture.
Thanks for putting this right, Hilary.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify this bike posted by Diane Clementson on 10/18/2010 at 3:50:54 PM
Joe Clementson was my father. He was a lifelong cyclist and Darlington cycle dealer. He opened his first shop in 1933, was called up in 1941, was a prisoner of war and on his return re-opened his shop. He gained numerous prizes on track and road and competed againdst top British riders Frank Southall and the Horne brothers and the French brothers Roger and Guy Lapebie. My understanding is that he made his own cycles pre war. I have a bag full of the Supra badges and an advertising postcard on Supra Cycles showing a picture of the cycle and details. This postcard is pre war. If you send me an email address I can forward a copy of this to you
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