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AGE / VALUE:Raleigh Technium road bike posted by: Paul on 10/16/2008 at 7:34:04 PM
Hello again all'
Need your help once again. Just bought a US made Raleigh Technium 12 spd for $75. Haven't actually laid eyes on it yet but the seller says it's in above average shape and never got ridden much. Not sure the year yet. 50cm aluminum frame, 700c rims,aluminum cranks and chainrings and aluminum Suntour derailleurs, aluminum stem/bars and claims "great pait". Needs cleanup, tires (comes with new tubes), bar tape and he says that's about it. How'd I do? I think I'd like to kepp this as a rider...Is it worth the time and effort? Thanks for your help!
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh Technium road bike posted by Gralyn on 10/17/2008 at 12:16:36 PM
I'm personally fond of the old Raleigh Techniums. I had one in really great condition - and sold it about 7 years ago for over twice what you gave for yours. At the same time - I had its twin....another Raleigh Technium identical to it in every way - except that the paint had lots of scratches and scrapes. I still have this one. I have converted it to a fixed gear. It made a really lightweight fixed gear! I really like it - the only thing is that it's just a little too tall for me. I would like to find a Technium with a 21 or 22 inch frame. I've been keeping an eye out - but I haven't spotted one yet. I think these are great bikes....great old-school aluminum frames - with forged dropouts. I think for $75 - you are getting a great deal. ....just my opinion.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Raleigh Technium road bike posted by Paul on 10/17/2008 at 3:13:37 PM
Thanks for the input, Gralyn. I just picked it up and haven't thoroughly gone over it yet, but at first glance it looks good fot the $$. It needs a good cleaning. The cranks need some cosmetic work/polishing (which I have all the equipment for), the rims/spokes/hubs are beautiful(just need some Nevr Dull) overall a diamond in the rough. The paint, however is beautiful and nearly flawless! It's in such great shape that I wondered if they powder coated the aluminum frames instead of paint? It's a nice looking bicycle. Robin's egg blue with wht & gray with yellow/red graphics. I think it fits my need well. I bought it to fix up for my daughter, who has to carry her current bike up 2 flights of stairs, to keep it safe. Does yours have side pull brakes? Do they work adequately? Anyway, great winter project! Thanks again
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AGE / VALUE:'70's? JC Penny 10 speed. Disk Brake posted by: Patrick on 10/14/2008 at 2:48:10 PM
Almost like new,all original, even the tires. Needs a little clean up. It has a way cool rear disk brake. I can e-mail pic. of the brake if wanted.$35 Locally only, in the Detroit area. Thanks. Pat


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RE:AGE / VALUE:'70's? JC Penny 10 speed. Disk Brake posted by Patrick on 10/15/2008 at 1:21:41 PM
Heres the pic. Cool site, but posting and keeping pics. is a challenge


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AGE / VALUE:Looking for info on a Dawes racing bike posted by: Jim Kingsbury on 10/14/2008 at 7:43:37 AM
I'm not really a cyclist but I have inherited an old Dawes Mirage. I have no idea about it but it did clean up nice and I enjoy riding it. I would be interested to find out about the model. Not considering selling I'm just really curious.

It has a Reynolds 531 frame, 27 inch wheels. Suntour gears.10 speed. Morelo saddle and wheels (etched on hub). The rims are concave. I'm guessing about 30 years old.

It was strung up in an old barn and was going to be thrown out, but I saved it and really pleased I did as I find it a really nice bike.

As I said I'm curious if anyone knows anything about them

Thank you

Jim


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RE:AGE / VALUE:Looking for info on a Dawes racing bike posted by Jim Kingsbury on 10/14/2008 at 11:10:40 AM
Sorry should have read Milremo saddle and wheels. Forgot to mention Weinmann brakes.

Thanks again

Jim
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RE:AGE / VALUE: Looking for info on a Dawes racing bike posted by Warren on 10/14/2008 at 5:29:17 PM
Nice bike...take a pic of the drivetrain side of the bike....it tells much more of the story.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Looking for info on a Dawes racing bike posted by David on 10/15/2008 at 4:18:14 AM
Nice find. It should be a good rider.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Looking for info on a Dawes racing bike posted by Jim Kingsbury on 10/16/2008 at 4:56:31 AM
Cheers guys. Took some more pics if that's any help. A bit more cleaning revealed it says Weinmann and made in Belgium on the rims. Also what looks like GB or CB embossed on the handlebar stalk thingy.

Many thanks.

Jim


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RE:AGE / VALUE:Looking for info on a Dawes racing bike posted by David on 10/16/2008 at 8:48:03 AM
Wow. Nicer find than I first thought!
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Looking for info on a Dawes racing bike posted by Warren on 10/16/2008 at 3:13:46 PM
You've got a real nice english racing bike there...mid 70's maybe?

Ride that puppy!
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RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Looking for info on a Dawes racing bike posted by ken on 10/21/2008 at 1:45:56 PM
the concave weinmann rims are getting hard to find... the GB stem suggests other Burgess parts might be present; check brakes, levers and bars
They can help date it too, if the derailleurs don't tell the story
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British_isles/GB.htm

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MISC:Schwinn 434 & Schwinn Voyager 11.8 posted by: Uni on 10/13/2008 at 12:41:48 PM
I just picked up a Schwinn 434 with a 25 inch frame and a Schwinn Voyager 11.8, 21 inch frame. Will those with experience with these bikes tell me about them and there collector value if any, and any other information you have about them.
Thanks,
Uni
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RE:MISC:Schwinn 434 & Schwinn Voyager 11.8 posted by David on 10/13/2008 at 1:04:49 PM
Voyageur is a well-liked bike, but I wouldn't consider it exactly "collectible." What is the "434?"
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RE:MISC:Schwinn 434 & Schwinn Voyager 11.8 posted by Uni on 10/13/2008 at 2:48:55 PM
The Scwhinn 434 is a aluminum rode bike. I'd like to know more about it and The Schwinn Voyager 11.8.
Who made them for Schwinn? Is The Schwinn Voyager 2 considered a better touring bike than the Schwinn Voyager 11.8? If so, why?
Here is a picture:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27544233@N03/2938871693/

Thanks,
Uni
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RE:MISC:Schwinn 434 & Schwinn Voyager 11.8 posted by David on 10/15/2008 at 4:29:51 AM
Search the messages at Schwinn collectors' forum
http://tinyurl.com/3ua4lh
There's a lot there about your bikes.
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RE:MISC: Schwinn 434 & Schwinn Voyager 11.8 posted by Uni on 10/15/2008 at 1:33:56 PM
Thanks Dave
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AGE / VALUE:1962 Eatons Road King? posted by: Dee on 10/12/2008 at 9:44:34 PM
Hi... when i purchased my house there was an old bike in the basement that I never paid much attention to. Now we are moving and I was wondering what to do with it. I checked it out and I think it has been painted all black. It has a crest on the front that says Glider with a bird on it and Eaton Co. Made in Canada. It looks really old and alot like the picture of the 1962 Road King picture that is light blue when I searched this site. It has a number MZ 173 engraved on it near the seat. Does anyone have any idea if this is a valuable bike?
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RE:AGE / VALUE: 1962 Eatons Road King? posted by Warren on 10/13/2008 at 7:58:42 AM
They are cool looking with a retro-deco thang going on but they've never become collectable. They didn't ride that well either...odd geometry. That robins-egg blue was the only colour I've seen on those bikes.

You're not losing money if decide to leave the bike to the next owners.
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MISC:Crank Arms Stuck on Bottom Bracket of Hawthorne Hercules posted by: Linsey on 10/12/2008 at 11:22:04 AM
Hello, I have recently aquired a Hawthorne Hercules in need of some attention, and require some assistance. I was able to remove the cotter pins on both crank arms, but the crank arms are stuck on the bottom bracket. Any sugestions as to how I can remove these would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
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RE:MISC:Crank Arms Stuck on Bottom Bracket of Hawthorne Hercules posted by Gralyn on 10/12/2008 at 9:06:00 PM
I've never encountered this problem before. Typically, the problem I have is getting the cotter pins out.....and each time - the cranks are loose on the spindle. With steel cranks - I can think of a couple options you might try: You could secure one of the cranks - then whack the other one with a hammer, or mallet of some sort - maybe that would break it loose. But then, to get the other one loose....I guess you would have to re-install the crank you just got loose - with the cotter pin - then secure it - then whack the other one. Or, you might could use some type of puller....like a gear puller....to pull it off the spindle.
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RE:MISC:Crank Arms Stuck on Bottom Bracket of Hawthorne Hercules posted by David on 10/13/2008 at 6:32:11 AM
Since the arms and spindle are steel, a gear puller should work fine and won't harm the arms. You could also try heating the arm with a propane torch (don't burn the paint) and see if expanding it a bit breaks it free.
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AGE / VALUE:   Touring bikes and ride quality posted by: Uni on 10/9/2008 at 8:03:13 AM
I have been thinking about buying a Miyata 1000 or a Bridgestone RB-T if I can find one. My interest in riding is as a commuter and tour(er). I'm looking for a bike that is comfortable to ride and rides comfortably over paved streets and walks. Recently I compared the ride of a 1970's Peugeot U-08 and a 1970's Raleigh Sprite 10 speed, a 1966 Sears (Puch) 3 speed, and a 1980's Raleigh Super Course 12 speed. The ride quality is in the order of the bikes listed except that the Sprite and U-08 are about the same. The U-08 and the Sprite seem to dampen the bumps in the road better than the other bikes listed. Will someone with experience riding these bikes compare their ride to the Miyata 1000 and Bridgestone RB-T? I must admit that I'm disappointed in the comparative ride quality of the Raleigh Super Course considering all of the rave that I have read concerning it. Is it the snob appeal that makes the Miyata 1000, the Bridgestone RB-T, and the Raleigh Super Course "more desirable"?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:   Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Gralyn on 10/9/2008 at 8:27:57 AM
Well, your "touring" bikes certainly have a more relaxed geometry, slacker seat tube and head tube angles, longer wheel base.....and this absorbs a lot of shock from the road - making a much more comfortable ride. The "racing" bikes, that is, true racing bikes - have much steeper angles for head and seat tube, have shorter wheel bases - and much of the road shock is transferred to "you". I'm not familiar with the Raleigh Super Course - but I'm thinking it's more a racing bike.

But then, the bulk of bikes build during the '70's and into the '80's had "sport" geometry.....which was more between racing and touring. I would expect that an actual "touring" bike would have a much more comfortable ride. But, there are other factors to consider: A nice "touring" bike might have a rough ride - if it has really small tires with really high pressure......and likewise, a racing bike, with 700 X 32C tires - might have a more comfortable ride. Also to consider: the saddle. Differences in saddles can make for a big difference in ride feel. Also, how the bike fits you - can make a big difference: the saddle position relative to the pedals, and relative to the bars, the height of the bars, the reach of the bars.......Many factors to consider.

If the Miyata 1000 is an actual "touring" bike (I'm not familiar), and I know the RB-T is an actual touring bike - then they should have a comfortable ride....and very high quality....
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RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Warren on 10/9/2008 at 5:32:54 PM
I think Gralyn's covered most of the important issues here. There's really no reason any decent bike (Miyata, Super Course, Bridgestone) couldn't be dialed in to suit a specific rider assuming you start with the correct frame size and you are not committed to keeping the bike absolute stock period correct.

For instance, I don't like bars less than 44 cm and I don't like crit bars. I use micro-adjustable seatposts to get my collection of Brooks saddles angled just right. I have short legs and a long torso and often use stems that are 120 to 135 mm in length. I get more power from a forward seat position so I prefer mtn style seatposts to road posts with a setback. When you get to really know your riding position you can make most frames comfortable and the ride always seems better.

The Bridgestone and Miyata are considered to be excellent bikes. Nothing snobby about that. I'd like one of each. I road a fixed Super Course for a few years but found it a little laid back in the old school fashion. Still I got used to it and enjoyed it a lot.

The U-O8 and Sprite are somewhat inferior bikes but they have long wheelbases and will even out the bumps.

Also, the Miyata is a touring bike and it likely has stiffer tubes and will have a harsher ride. Until you put loaded panniers on it and it then should smooth right out. My Cannondale T1000 was a spine-jarring beast naked but it floated across Europe with 80 lbs of gear.

In short, go for the best frame that fits you can find and dress it up accordingly.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:   Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Paul on 10/9/2008 at 6:45:23 PM
Doesn't answer your questions, but if you want a very comfortable older (or newer if you have the $$)commuter/touring bike, have you considered a Moulton? A little more pricey maybe, but fully suspended,can be found with factory front/rear luggage racks and are a funky, "cool" ride that will always get looks and start conversations. Many are 3spd SA but you can find an occasional 5spd and can always have a 5spd hub laced to your wheel. TOTALLY different frame geometry, sitting position etc. but very comfortable... just thought I'd throw it out there. Good luck! http://www.moultoneers.info/
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RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Uni on 10/10/2008 at 8:38:34 AM
Warren thanks for your insight. Why do you consider the Peugeot U-08 and the Raleigh Sprite inferior models, considering that are rugged, work flawlessly and ride like limousines? Is it because they have less expensive components and are more common?
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RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Uni on 10/10/2008 at 8:40:07 AM
Warren thanks for your insight. Why do you consider the Peugeot U-08 and the Raleigh Sprite inferior models, considering that they are rugged, work flawlessly and ride like limousines? Is it because they have less expensive components and are more common?
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Warren on 10/10/2008 at 4:06:01 PM
Ah, this is a philosphical question. From a practical and utilitarian point of view, there's nothing wrong with the Sprite or the U-O8. Especially when they can be purchased for little money. Comfortable rides that can last for decades.

From a bike purist point of view, the other three all have superior tubesets. The SC has Reynolds 531 straight gauge and the Miyata and Bridgestones used various double-butted Japanese tubesets. Start with a good frame and you can build a lighter, better, faster bike.

The Brigestone is likely a cut above all of them because most were handcrafted frames and a good framebuilder can take a set of tubes and lugs and create something sublime from both a functional and aesthetic point of view. This is why a Confente/Sachs/Bayliss/Mariposa/Moon/Masi bike can cost thousands of dollars. It's not just snobbery, it's craftsmanship.
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RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Uni on 10/10/2008 at 5:30:46 PM
Hi Warren, I enjoyed reading your post. The Super Course has a hand built English frame. Even though the tubing is straight gauge, how does the quality of the workmanship compare to the Bridgestone RB--T? Have you seen and piloted both bikes?
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Warren on 10/10/2008 at 7:30:52 PM
Super Courses were mass produced on a large scale and it showed in the quality of the brazing of the lugs. A decent mid quality bike. I've owned one. Bridgestones were handmade at the beginning and later were mass produced. I suspect the touring models were earlier models. I've never seen one of these but I have ridden an RB-1 road bike. Nice.

Grant Peterson was the founder of Bridgestone and he now runs Rivendell bikes. Go here and you can likely ask him yourself.

http://www.rivbike.com/
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RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Uni on 10/11/2008 at 4:26:41 AM
Hi Warren, here is a link to a 1968 Raleigh brochure and it says the Super Course was handmade at the Carlton facility. I have read that a "W" in the Super Course serial indicated that it was built at the Carlton facility. I have also read that some of the Super Course bikes in the later years were made in Japan.
What do you think?

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/catalogs/Raleigh-Catalog-1968.pdf

http://www.jaysmarine.com/TH_raleigh_serials.html

Serial convention:
Two letters, followed by a series of six digits.

First letter stands for the production factory:
N=Nottingham
W=Worksop (Carlton, until 197?)
E=Enid (USA)
G=Gazelle
M=Malaysia
R=Canada
D=Ireland
H=Handsworth (U.K.)
B=Unknown, but reported

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RE:AGE / VALUE:   Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Lenny on 10/11/2008 at 5:25:42 AM
Hi Uni,

I can offer an explanation for your comment "I must admit that I'm disappointed in the comparative ride quality of the Raleigh Super Course considering all of the rave that I have read concerning it".

The frame geometry and wheelbase length of the Raleigh Super Course changed very significantly from the early 1970's through the early 1980's. The "Raleigh Super Course" model sold in the US up until about 1974 had a wheelbase over 41 inches (I don't have the exact measurement handy)and more relaxed frame angles. I had a '71 model (no longer have it) and it was an extremely comfortable ride (soaking up lots of road shock). Around '74 through about '77, the "Raleigh Super Course Mk II" was sold. The frame angles were slightly more upright, and the wheelbase was about 40.5 inches. I have one of those, it is my absolute all time favorite bike. It handles a bit faster than the ealier SC models, but still is a comfortable ride.

Sometime in the late 70s, the SC geometry was again changed, with shortened wheelbase and much more upright frame angles. I had one of these, a 1980 model (had 700C wheels and was a 12-speed). It was not comfortable to ride, and very unlike the earlier SC models. From your description, you have one similar to this. I share your impressions of these later SC models. For me, it was no fun to ride...I disliked it so much I donated it to a local non-profit bike shop.

Regards,
Lenny
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Warren on 10/11/2008 at 7:10:27 AM
My Super Course was a MKII from 76 and was as Lenny said, a very good bike while still having a laid back geometry. Cool panelled paint with chrome suspenders too.

As far as hand made is concerned, I suspect that there was a lot of poetic license taken when Raleigh gave that descriptor to their models out of the Carlton Worksop facility. Yes they likely had real humans doing the brazing and and assembling but I doubt the tubes were carefully mitred inside the lugs and there certainly isn't any hand filing done to them. That would have been reserved for the team professional bikes. The SC was made in huge numbers and you really can't compare one of those frames to a crafted frame from a reputable builder. It's easy to hand built a truly horrible frame.
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RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Uni on 10/11/2008 at 11:35:04 AM
Hello to all and thanks for your comments.

Lenny My Super Course has a serial number indicating that it was made November 1979. It looks like the one in the catalog that is hosted on this site except that it does not have bar end shifters:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/catalogs/1977/pages/04-77-supercourse.html
The length of the bike from wheel to wheel is about 68 inches (about 6 inches shorter that the Sprite and the Peugeot U-08) and from hub to hub about 39.5 inches. It has a Brooks B-17 saddle. I think I'll try changing that to a Brooks Champion Flyer or some other heavily sprung saddle, and maybe I will be more pleased with the ride. I'm really interested in a comparison of the older and newer Super Course frame angles.

Thanks again,
Uni

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RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by scooter on 10/30/2008 at 6:29:10 PM
just bought a mariposa circa early 70s campe record groupo nice bike i think needs tlc
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Don Copeland on 10/9/2009 at 7:07:43 PM
where would I find the serial number on a Raleigh Super Course?
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RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by Steve on 12/1/2009 at 4:39:37 AM
It's stamped underneath the bottom bracket.

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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Touring bikes and ride quality posted by patty on 7/11/2010 at 7:01:52 AM
have a raleigh super course bike not sure of age the serial numbers are WN7Ko4684 with the number 531
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AGE / VALUE:james pickering sprint posted by: Linda on 10/9/2008 at 5:20:35 AM
I have several old bikes from the sixties , seventies and one from the 50's. One is a James Pickering Sprint. Custom made by hand fo rmy dad. 24"frame, ten speeds front and rear brakes...(been searching your site and see those are things people stress). original equipment. any ideas of value ?
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RE:AGE / VALUE:james pickering sprint posted by David on 10/12/2008 at 7:26:14 AM
The Nov 1975 issue of Bicycling magazine has an article on small framebuilders that mentions Pickering, I believe. (I DON'T have that magazine.) Perhaps your library can find it and it will be useful.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:james pickering sprint posted by jim t on 6/28/2009 at 12:43:57 PM
hi i am from augusta maine and i do have a story about a certian pickering frame which was made for me back in 1975 and it came from arizona and was a wornderful bike . i am in the process for tracking it down again and building it up again regards jim t from augusta maine
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RE:AGE / VALUE:james pickering sprint posted by Jenna on 7/19/2009 at 9:36:49 PM
I just purchased a Pickering frame/fork today with Campagnolo droputs and Campagnolo headset. It's a beautiful frameset in orange. Anyone know about these bikes?
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:james pickering sprint posted by jim trainor augusta maine on 8/29/2009 at 3:28:01 AM
yes jeanna i know a little about them and they are a fine bike to say the least mine was built for me in 1976 in az it came with campy vertical dropouts a very tight rear traingle and a cinnelli full sloping fork crown plus a special cutout on the bottom bracket . durifort tubing was a good quailty tubing and it makes for a excellent ride in todays standards; let me know what your plans are as i have baskets of parts that would fit ! regards jim t
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RE:AGE / VALUE:james pickering sprint posted by Jenna on 9/18/2009 at 2:40:48 PM
Hi Jim!
I absolutely love my Pickering. In fact, I was able to track down James Pickering to connect with him about it. He and I had a wonderful conversation! In addition, I was able to connect with another Pickering owner in Tucson, but sadly his Pickering was destroyed when he was hit by a truck and the truck ran over it. He is devastated...I estimate that there are very few of these bikes, since James told me he built them for about 4 years, and at the time that the article was written in Bicycling Magazine, he'd built only 75. I'm guessing that there are less than 500. If anyone has another Pickering frame that they wouldn't mind selling, I have the contact information for this gentleman in Tucson.

And thank you for your offer for parts! I've been hunting around for sure! Please let me know what you have!

Jenna
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:james pickering sprint posted by jim trainor on 10/11/2009 at 3:08:04 PM
hi jenna thank you for the recent note i just got to see it today what good news about the pickering ! presently going throught some very delicate persuading the owner to sell it back to me . progress is slow but i am closer than ever . have got to get that pickering back , it has been in unused since 1984 with only limited miles i remember the handelin.g was top notch and was very comfortable on rough roads regards jimt
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RE:AGE / VALUE:james pickering sprint posted by jim trainor on 10/20/2009 at 3:13:30 AM
hi jenna having trouble getting email to you in regards to your pickering ! also have some vintage rims that would be a big hit for your bike keep in touch jimt jimt464@yahoo.com
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MISC:Another Price Guide posted by: Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 10/8/2008 at 2:37:21 PM
We are working on another bicycle price guide which looks at current asking prices for used and vintage cycles and parts by searching on-line classified ads.
If you would like to try it and give us some feedback, we would appreciate it.
The link is:
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AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Mirage posted by: Paul on 10/7/2008 at 4:20:43 PM
Hi all,
I just picked up a Motobecane Mirage that's a little crusty but in sound shape overall. It is a French model, not Taiwanese. I could use some help identifying it's age and potential restored value. It's all original, ecept maybe for the Avocet saddle? The thing that threw me a bit was that it has side-pull brakes on it. Does this indicate it's older than one with center-pulls? Suntour derailleurs, aluminum cranks, steel wheels, gold paint w/black details. Any ideas? With provide other info if it helps. Thanks!

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RE:AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Mirage posted by Rebecca on 10/7/2008 at 6:39:24 PM
Do you know anything about Motobecanes? a little disappointed that I have rec'vd no replies. I can't find anything about the MBK "Charleston" style, year, I just know the bike is old...a friend lived in France, bought it from a 70 year old woman, took it England all in about the last 10-15 years or so...someone wants to buy it..but I have no idea the worth...thanks for any input.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Mirage posted by David on 10/8/2008 at 10:08:50 AM
Super Mirage had replaced Mirage by 1976. It's a low-end model, probably not of much collector interest. Ride it.
The MBK looks Dutch or German to me; probably 70s; a city bike would have had cottered cranks before then. It's probably worth about what Raleigh Sports sell for.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Mirage posted by David on 10/8/2008 at 11:50:20 AM
MBK is Danish. See http://www.mbk-cykler.dk


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RE:AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Mirage posted by Paul on 10/8/2008 at 1:51:58 PM
Hey David, The website you gave above is a retailer, not the manufacturer. MBK is technically still Motobecacne (post bankruptcy in I think '84 or '85?)Rebecca's MBK is marked "Made in France" and has lots of French components. Currently, MBK-US sells cycles to order, online that are assebled in Taiwan and sold under the Motobecane name. (according to a website that I viewd recently. Otherwise MBK apparently still makes cycles in France for the Euro market.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Motobecane Mirage posted by Paul on 10/8/2008 at 1:56:10 PM
BTW David, thanks for the info on the Mirage. Guess I'll clean it up and sell it, Can't ride all the bikes I have now!
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AGE / VALUE:Yet another unidentified Bianchi posted by: Mikael Gustafsson on 10/6/2008 at 12:46:05 PM
Hello.

I would be really interested in finding out some more information considering our newest restoration project. I wrote down everything I could imagine would be valuable information, and I would be thankful in case anyone could tell me something regarding this gorgeous bike.

The frame was stamped with the numbers 127/1 underneath the pedals, and at the saddle-bar there was a code at least similar to 700306 (might be 7cc306 as well).

Along with the bike came one set of Huret gears, and one set of Simplex gears. One wheel had the marking "Phillips superior, Steel HLB (or Hub), British made". The other just read "Bianchi". The saddle had a "Bianchi" metal stamp in the back and "Aquila" stamped into the leather at the sides.

I'll attach some photos to clarify:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/02102008040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/02102008039.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/02102008038.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/narri/02102008036.jpg

Thank you for reading!
Yours,
Mikael
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RE:AGE / VALUE: Yet another unidentified Bianchi posted by Warren on 10/7/2008 at 6:23:22 PM
I suspect that is a very valuable bike. The folks at Classic Rendezvous could tell you everything you need to know.

You could also talk to Mike Barry on his blog...http://bicyclespecialties.blogspot.com/

Mike has one of the most extensive bike and derailleur collections in North America.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Yet another unidentified Bianchi posted by Mikael on 10/9/2008 at 5:45:03 PM
Thank you very much for your answer Warren. I contacted Mike and enlisted on the Classic Rendezvous site. Now I'm fairly sure it's a 1930's Commerativo, same bike that Giuseppe Olmo rode. Now I'm trying to find parts for it, which will be interesting.

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AGE / VALUE:Motobecane "Charleston" posted by: Rebecca on 10/6/2008 at 11:24:58 AM
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AGE / VALUE:Motobecane "Charleston" posted by: Rebecca on 10/6/2008 at 11:17:15 AM
I cannot find any info on this....HELP ??


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AGE / VALUE:1982 Trek 311 posted by: Barb on 10/5/2008 at 8:01:23 AM
We have a 1982 Trek Model 311, Serial #038848. It is in great condition. We would like to know what the value is before we give it to a friend.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:1982 Trek 311 posted by David on 10/5/2008 at 4:40:27 PM
Look at completed auctions on ebay for bikes like yours.
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WANTED:peugeot px10 1971 posted by: Yvon Duval on 10/4/2008 at 7:59:16 AM
Hi, I'm doing restoration to a 71 px10 and I only got the frame were could I get the rest to bring it back to it's original days. Thanks
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RE:WANTED:peugeot px10 1971 posted by David on 10/4/2008 at 2:25:37 PM
You have a lot of not-so-common parts to gather. If you're lucky, you can find a wrecked frame with the parts you need. More likely, you'll spend months (or years) finding them on ebay or at swap meets and spend much more than a complete PX10 would have cost. Good luck.
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