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AGE / VALUE: James 1930s posted by: Wattsy on 7/16/2008 at 4:54:26 AM
Hi there,
I have a real brainteaser for you all. I have a Famous James racing frame with headset and bars, but with everything else including decals stripped. It is from the mid to late 1930s.

Do I try to restore or preserve this extremely rare and extremely good quality old bike frame? Or do I equip it and punish all the Taiwan loving yuppies in the local bike club?

Is the frame valuable (it seems to be so rare that it is not in the guide)? It just seems so rare and precious and quite old, but it is only the bare frame and bars, I don't know what to do with it.
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RE:AGE / VALUE: James 1930s posted by Bryan on 7/16/2008 at 1:32:05 PM
Why not do both? I have a whole stable of racing bikes from the '30s, '40s, and '50s that are both beautiful collectors and great riders. Do it up right then ride it sensibly and you should have a great maching.
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AGE / VALUE:peugeot RYA5 posted by: Dan Griffin on 7/15/2008 at 5:01:44 PM
I have acquired two old road bikes "peugeot" and I am looking for information on them, cannot find a serial number on one but the other is "RYA5" the number is stamped into the bottom bracket, is there any other place l should look for a model number?? The date of 1974 i got from the wheels this is stamped on the rim, DEA 1974 "made in france" they both have simplex deraileurs and mafac "racer" brakes and levers, both bikes have cotter pins in the cranks arms to attach them to the bottom bracket axle. Any other infomation would sure help
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RE:AGE / VALUE: peugeot RYA5 posted by Warren on 7/15/2008 at 5:30:51 PM
Likely the ubiquitous UO-8...check the archives for loads of info and google for pics. More of these were made than any other bike during the bike boom 70's. No real value except that many people (still) enjoy the ride.
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AGE / VALUE:Schwinn 26" frame Super Sport, Sport Tourer, or Superior posted by: Patrick on 7/15/2008 at 4:54:24 AM
I want to buy a 26" framed version of the bikes I've listed above. Please e-mil direct. Thanks, Patrick
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AGE / VALUE:BRC Pro posted by: Jess on 7/13/2008 at 6:15:30 PM
Does anyone know anything about the BRC pro, from around 1975? Is it a good bike? What does BRC stand for? Do you think I;ll be able to find specs somewhere?

Thanks!
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AGE / VALUE:Schwinn Sports Tourer front derailler adjustment posted by: Gralyn on 7/13/2008 at 2:40:50 PM
I'm having trouble with the front derailler on my '72 Sports Tourer. I know I could replace deraillers and other components - but I want to keep the bike all original. The front derailler is not wanting to down shift to the smaller chain ring. At first I thought it might be the cable was too tight - but I checked this and the cable has plenty of slack when the lever is moved to select the smaller chain ring. I see the adjusting screw for the stop for the large chain ring - and I see the adjusting screw for the stop for the small chain ring. I adjusted it out - but this made it worse - so I adjusted it the other way. It still would not adjust far enough to get it to engage the small chain ring. It looks that the screw comes in until it hits the seat tube - then it won't go any farther. Does anyone have any ideas on what could be the problem - or what else I could possibly do to make it work?
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Schwinn Sports Tourer front derailler adjustment posted by Lenny on 7/13/2008 at 6:06:06 PM
Hi Gralyn,

It sounds like you might have an issue with the proper chainline. I've had this problem when I've accidentally reversed the axle or used one that was the incorrect length (too short). This could be causing the inner chainring to be too close to the bearing cup of the BB.

Another possibility is that the alloy of the crank arm is damaged or cracked, allowing the crank arm to be pulled too far along the square taper of the axle when the bolt is tightened.

It is also possible that someone has replaced the derailleur adjusting screw with one of improper length, though that seems like a more remote possiblility. Good luck and let us know what you find out.

Regards,
Lenny
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Schwinn Sports Tourer front derailler adjustment posted by Gralyn on 7/14/2008 at 5:34:10 AM
I'll check the bottom bracket spindle. It is possible I could have put it in wrong.....I was careful to get the longer end on the drive side - but who knows? Everything is original - so it should all line up correctly. I'll go back over it all and double-check.
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AGE / VALUE:Eatons road king posted by: G on 7/12/2008 at 5:42:12 PM
I have my dad's old bike. A red (candy apple-ish) eatons road king. It has Made in Hungary engraved on the down tube and had a black book carrier over the rear fender.
The coaster brake arm says Super Granat. No other markings on the wheels. I'm guessing mid 60's or earlier.
I'm restoring it and would like to know anything you might know about these bikes. I dont care about the value as I intend to ride it. I do need some parts so sources would be very appreciated.
Thanks in advance :)
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Eatons road king posted by Gralyn on 7/13/2008 at 7:54:06 AM
I have an Eaton Road King....well, what's left of it. It was a 10 speed with drop bars. I had bought it for the handle bars - I liked the particular bend of the bars - and I wanted to put them on another bike (steel bars). The Eaton 10 speed was pretty heavy....steel components, steel wheels. I believe it even had a cotterless crank set - but it was made from steel. I believe the crank set is still on the frame. The wheels are gone (I don't know what happened to them), the saddle is gone (don't know what happened to it either). I think the frame, fork, ders, cables, cranks are still on the frame.
Check the archives here. I believe someone said the Eaton's were sold in Canada - at "Eaton's Dept. store"....something like that.
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MISC:Larz Anderson Bicycle Show & Swap Meet is only a week away !! posted by: Peter Naiman on 7/12/2008 at 1:50:44 PM
Just thought I'd post again about our Bicycle show and swap at Larz Anderson Auto Museum coming up this coming weekend in Brookline, MA on July 20th. To visit our website for full information about the show if you've not seen my posts with regard to Larz, or if you'll be a first time visitor this year, please click onto the URL below:



http://www.classicr endezvous. com/larzanderson .htm



If you plan on attending, either visiting to show a few bikes, or attending the swap as a seller, it would be appreciated if you could possibly pre-register. The registration form is available through our website, as well as photos of prior shows, and also directions to our event. I would also like to post a list this week of possible cycles that will be at the show.



I've had a few people from as far North as Toronto & Montreal, others from around the U.S. show interest in attending, so to find local accomodations in Brookline, MA please click onto the URL below:



http://www.findloca lhotels.com/ listings/ brookline_ ma_us.html



For other questions or comments about the show, you can call Susan at the Larz Anderson Auto Museum at 617-522-6547, although the Museum is closed on Mondays, or email directly to me @ hetchinspete1@ yahoo.com.



Best regards, and see everyone in Brookline on Sunday.

Peter Naiman

Milwaukee, WI


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MISC:Larz Anderson Bicycle Show & Swap Meet is only a week away !! posted by: Peter Naiman on 7/12/2008 at 1:50:44 PM
Just thought I'd post again about our Bicycle show and swap at Larz Anderson Auto Museum coming up this coming weekend in Brookline, MA on July 20th. To visit our website for full information about the show if you've not seen my posts with regard to Larz, or if you'll be a first time visitor this year, please click onto the URL below:



http://www.classicr endezvous. com/larzanderson .htm



If you plan on attending, either visiting to show a few bikes, or attending the swap as a seller, it would be appreciated if you could possibly pre-register. The registration form is available through our website, as well as photos of prior shows, and also directions to our event. I would also like to post a list this week of possible cycles that will be at the show.



I've had a few people from as far North as Toronto & Montreal, others from around the U.S. show interest in attending, so to find local accomodations in Brookline, MA please click onto the URL below:



http://www.findloca lhotels.com/ listings/ brookline_ ma_us.html



For other questions or comments about the show, you can call Susan at the Larz Anderson Auto Museum at 617-522-6547, although the Museum is closed on Mondays, or email directly to me @ hetchinspete1@ yahoo.com.



Best regards, and see everyone in Brookline on Sunday.

Peter Naiman

Milwaukee, WI


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AGE / VALUE:Raleigh from 1966-ish was originally a 5 speed posted by: Peter on 7/12/2008 at 3:53:28 AM
I have been going through some old bicycle stuff of mine and I started thinking about my Dad's old bike. I'm trying to figure out what it is/was... He says he bought it somewhere around 1966. It was originally a 5-speed. It had cotter-type cranks and a single shifter on the down tube. In the late 80's when I was riding competitively I "upgraded" has bike for him with new cranks (a double) and a new rear derailleur. images of bike (with close-ups) can be found here: http://s326.photobucket.com/albums/k431/pwm1554/


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AGE / VALUE:   Cadre Allege posted by: sandra on 7/11/2008 at 11:17:57 AM
What is the value of a Cadre Allege Peugeuot
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RE:AGE / VALUE:   Cadre Allege posted by ken on 7/18/2008 at 10:44:48 AM
I'm pretty sure 'cadre allege' is French for 'frame guaranteed', loosely. It's found on millions of Peugeots of every description.
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MISC:Identification of Claud Butler posted by: Simon on 7/10/2008 at 2:30:27 PM
I rescued an old frame from the dump this weekend. It has been hand painted over. It has a Claud Butler badge rivetted to the front. It has a grease nipple on the LHS of the frame at the bottom bracket. I reckon it could be 70s -80s. Anyone know how I might be able to identify it?
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RE:MISC: Identification of Claud Butler posted by Warren on 7/10/2008 at 5:51:00 PM
The grease nipple indicates earlier although it's possible that they had those in the 70's.

CB's were mass produced in moderate numbers. Generally good quality or better though. If it's a 531 butted tubeset, it should have a 27.2 or 27 mm seatpost. The frame and fork will weigh less than 5 lbs. Close up pics of the lugs, drop outs and a serial number should help you find out more info from Claud fans somewhere out there.
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RE:MISC:Identification of Claud Butler posted by K Body on 7/11/2008 at 10:18:26 AM
If the top tube is 1.125 inch diameter then it is bronze welded made by the original Claud Butler, who also made genuine lightweight lugged frames with butted 531.
I believe early 1960's the name was bought by the Holdsworthy Co. (wholesalers, who produced cheap frames with 3 main tubes in plain G 531. internaql diameter of seat tube will confirm this.
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RE:RE:MISC: Identification of Claud Butler posted by Warren on 7/11/2008 at 3:41:12 PM
Acually, if it's older, it could weigh up to 6 lbs.
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AGE / VALUE:Bottom Bracket thread size posted by: Travis on 7/9/2008 at 4:21:27 PM
I just picked up a Jeunet frame and need a bottom bracket.I was wondering if anyone knew what size I would need to thread into the frame?The Frame is Red and says Jeunet Franche-Comte and has simplex stamped on the drop outs. I got the frame for 30$ ,is that a reasonable price?
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Bottom Bracket thread size posted by Gralyn on 7/9/2008 at 8:13:02 PM
It takes the French thread size bottom bracket. I'm not sure what numbers are associated with the thread - but most common bottom brackets (English thread) won't fit it.

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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Bottom Bracket thread size posted by Warren on 7/11/2008 at 2:35:24 PM
With Simplex stamped dropouts, it's likely a very nice frame. A steal at $30.

Find a bike shop that has old Peugeots in the basement or check ebay. There's lots of them out there. Likely millions.
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AGE / VALUE:self extractors? posted by: jason on 7/9/2008 at 12:21:03 AM
just found a 85 Miyata 1000, and was getting geared up to work on the BB. It has shimano biopace triple cranks, and the nut is a 8 mm hex with a separate ring that takes a pin tool to remove. looked at some manuals, and saw the self extractor that looks just like what I have here, but it shows it on the octalink system, but I doubt that this is octalink(though it could be, I don't know as this is the newest thing I have ever worked on. when did shimano introduce that?)
Did shimano make a self extracting bolt for a square taper? or could this just be a cosmetic thing?

I am worryed that i will strip out the hex if the cranks are oxidized on at all, will soaking in penetrating fluid for a while help at all on cranks?

I may bite the bullet and take it to a shop, as I really don't want to ruin anything. will check out sheldons pages, but hought I would throw it out here to. thanks, jason

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RE:AGE / VALUE:self extractors? posted by jason on 7/9/2008 at 2:35:27 PM
well, I figured it out, just used my regular crank puller
my worry was that THis bike was outside for a few years and did not want to risk anything being stuck, but everything came off sweet and clean
I can see how in the field it may be worth a chance to use the extractors, but in the shop with good tools not worth it at all.

my confusion was from Bicycling magazines manual, it worded it like the octalink was the only thing with these bolts.
I still think that the old glens is, while outdated, the ultimate teck manual. wish there was a new one of that quality

for what its worth, this is an incredible bike, touring geometry, triple butted, put seventy pounds of gear on it and it rode great.
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MISC:hub thread size posted by: george on 7/8/2008 at 6:20:38 PM
I have a campy rear wheel with a suntour 5 speed freewheel,would someone tell me what type threads are on the hub.thank you
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RE:MISC:hub thread size posted by ken on 7/10/2008 at 1:55:01 PM
http://sheldonbrown.com/freewheels.html
In my experience the ISO and Italian are indistinguishable: 1.375" vs 35mm.
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AGE / VALUE:INFO posted by: MR WIGGINS on 7/7/2008 at 8:28:54 AM
Hi,all just required a 21" raleigh record ace 12 speed,looks unused been told like it could be late 60s any info would be great.
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