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MISC:   Flip=Flop hub on Raleigh Record posted by: Bryant on 7/4/2008 at 6:02:12 AM
Hi All,
I'm still working on the Record from the prior posting. I found it is a 1968 from the Headbadge (Heron, not a Peacock), paint and components. I did find that the rear hub is actually a Flip=Flop hub with a freewheel on one side and a place for a fixed cog and lockring on the other. Anyone know if this was standard equipment or an upgrade. Both rims are Sturmey Archer so it looks like it came with the bike. Thanks
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           RE:MISC: Flip=Flop hub on Raleigh Record posted by John E on 7/4/2008 at 12:50:01 PM
As of the early 1970s, the Raleigh Record was a 10-speed, and I assume that was the case in the late 1960s, as well.
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           RE:RE:MISC: Flip=Flop hub on Raleigh Record posted by Warren on 7/5/2008 at 5:51:46 PM
Hey John...long time no see.

Bryant, the flip flop hub was spec on some of these bikes. I believe it was a Brampton. There should be some discussion in the archives. I recall that it was a fairly pedestrian steel hub. Interesting as a conversation piece but original.
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MISC:   need help posted by: KJ on 7/3/2008 at 8:25:27 PM
I do not collect bicycles, and know nothing much about them , except how to ride. I have acquired an old?? bike and can't find info about it. I basically just want to put new tires on it for riding purposes. The info on the bike is this: National Sports Wheel Corp. , ultralight, Sapporo , 12 speed. I can make out the numbers on the tires: 26 X 1 3/8 Hwa HFR FONG. After buying some tires (Bell) 26 X 1 3/8 and inner tubes 26 X 1.75 ( the store employee said they should work), I read on the internet that they probably will not-- that the inner tubes should also be the same as the tire. Of course the store does not have that size in stock. I just need to know what size ( and kind ) of tire and inner tube WILL work, I may be riding on dirt roads. I'm also wondering why, with so much bike info out there, that I can not find any on this bike. What else ( other name) would it be listed under?
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           RE:MISC: need help posted by John E on 7/4/2008 at 12:52:12 PM
I think the 26 x 1.75 innertubes WILL work with 26 x 1-3/8 tires. I would prefer 26 x 1.375 or 26 x 1.5 tubes, if available, but do not lose any sleep over it.
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           RE:RE:MISC: need help posted by ken on 7/11/2008 at 10:45:29 AM
so will 700C for that matter - the 26x 1 3/8 falls about midway between the two sizes.
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AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Sports Tourer - crank removal posted by: Gralyn on 7/3/2008 at 7:21:51 PM
Finally, after several years, I'm getting around to re-building my Schwinn Sports Tourer. I've already run into a problem: I went to remove the crank arms - but my crank removal tool is way too small! I have never run into this situation before. The threaded area where the removal tool would go, is a much larger diameter. Does anyone know if the correct tool is available anywhere?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Sports Tourer - crank removal posted by Lenny on 7/4/2008 at 5:43:48 AM
Hi Gralyn,

If your Sports Tourer has a TA crankset, you will likely need to use as a crank removal tool such as the VAR tool sold by Harris Cyclery (see http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/tools/bottombracket.html#crank , shown as "VAR #393"). I have one of these and the larger side (23 mm thread diameter) fits the TA crank on my 1975 Sports Tourer.

I also have a few older Super Sports (most in fairly rough condition). As much as I like the Sports Tourer, I find that the Super Sports (with their one-piece crank and "all steel drivetrain" make very durable commuter bikes. So you might think about keeping your SS if you have the space and inclination.

Good luck with the crank removal.

Regards,
Lenny
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Schwinn Sports Tourer - crank removal posted by Gralyn on 7/5/2008 at 6:58:03 AM
I do have the TA crank set. I looked over everything on the bike - and except for the tires, it's all original. The pedals, clips, straps, saddle, even the bar tape. I would keep the original bar tape - but it's torn in several places on one side. But, it's the black plastic type - and I think you can still find it. (I have some white, and some green - but no black.) My original plans were for black cloth bar tape, and bar-end shifters to replace the big chrome gear shifters at the stem. I was also going to leave off the huge pie pan spoke protector. But now, I'm more leaning toward keeping it as original as possible. It's a 1972 model, per the catalogs and specs, etc. .....the Mfg. date per serial number puts it in 1971.
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Schwinn Sports Tourer - crank removal posted by Lenny on 7/5/2008 at 5:35:56 PM
Hi Gralyn,

If you are somewhat near an established bike shop, they might have a TA crank extractor that they would be willing to let you use on site. If not, contact me off the list and I'll lend you mine (if you don't mind a wait).

Bar-end shifters would be nice if you have them, though I've always liked the stock stem shifter (and pie plate spoke protector, especially if the chrome is still nice).

I will tell you that on my '72 ST that I formerly owned, I replaced the stock Campagnolo Gran Turismo rear derailleur with a Shimano Crane (which, marked as "LeTour" replaced the Gran Turismo on later Sports Tourers). This vastly improved the shifting (though it required some filing of the dropout to accomodate a different derailleur).

Also, if you use the Gran Turismo derailleur, carefully check and make sure that you have adequate spring tension around the pivot bolt (the one that attaches to the dropout). There is a small "tooth" on a stampled metal plate that engages a slot of the pivot bolt (the bolt actually is stationary while the plate and the derailleur pivot around it). I have seen several examples on STs where this "tooth" has broken off. If is is broken, there is no spring tension on the pivot to oppose the tension of the chain and the derailleur will get pulled forward and up against the left chainstay (a very ugly sight). It is possible to repair this (I filed a slot in the plate and fitted a new wedge or "key" to go in the slot, but the derailleur still shifted poorly). I ultimately replaced it with a Shimano Crane. BTW, when you remove the Gran Turismo derailleur, make sure you hold the pivot bolt staionary and remove the nut on the inside of dropout. I didn't do this and broke the pivot spring (which I had to then replace).

Good luck!
Lenny
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           RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Schwinn Sports Tourer - crank removal posted by Lenny on 7/5/2008 at 7:43:09 PM
Hi Gralyn,

I meant right chainstay, not left chainstay in reference to derailleur....!!
Regards,
Lenny
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           RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Schwinn Sports Tourer - crank removal posted by Gralyn on 7/7/2008 at 8:04:25 AM
Yes, I figured out about the derailler removal....I could tell that the bolt inside the chainstay was connected with the spring - so I held it stationary and loosened the bolt on the derailler side. It looks that most of the chrome is in good enough condition - so I'm going to re-install the pie pan, stem shifters, etc.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Sports Tourer - crank removal posted by David on 7/10/2008 at 10:19:35 AM
I have a 73 ST and it has Nervar crank, which uses the std 22mm extractor. TA will use 23mm. You might be able to find a Park crank puller that has 22 and 23mm threading (two sided). They turn up on ebay. I think that biketoolsetc.com has pullers that are fairly expensive.
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AGE / VALUE:   Skyway 27" road frame posted by: g.schwahlen on 7/3/2008 at 3:24:42 AM
Does anybody know if Skyway ever produced 27" racing bicycle frames. I got a old frame with Skyway decal on it and it looks original - nothing really fancy but I thought that Skyway only produced BMX stuff.


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AGE / VALUE:   Old Atala info wanted posted by: DG Fischer on 7/1/2008 at 8:23:47 AM
Ive had this old Atala for years and I can not find any information on it. Anybody have any info or a general year of manufacture?
Any help would be appreciated.
DG

Cut and paste for pictures

http://www.thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2957
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Old Atala info wanted posted by David on 7/2/2008 at 6:18:05 AM
Like Raleigh, Peugeot, and Schwinn, Atala made a full line of bikes, from rod-brake roadsters like yours to lightweight racing machines. Unfortunately for you, most people are interested in the lightweights so there isn't a lot of info to be found on the other end of the range.
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MISC:   Multicolored Raleigh Head Badge posted by: Bryant on 6/30/2008 at 5:30:34 PM
Hi all,
I am working on a Raleigh record that has a Multicolored Raleigh Headbadge. It isn't the normal headbadge that is red and gold but an Oval with the peacock in red, and blue with a white background. Anyone know when this head badge was made and why? Was it an anniversary of some kind? Thanks



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           RE:MISC:   Multicolored Raleigh Head Badge posted by Kevin T. on 7/1/2008 at 9:15:04 AM
Yeah, I've had a couple of those, it is their anniversary badge and I'm not sure which one anymore but I got the info from retro Raliegh.
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           RE:MISC:   Multicolored Raleigh Head Badge posted by David on 7/2/2008 at 6:08:55 AM
But it's a heron, not a peacock.
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AGE / VALUE:   werke express neumarkt bicycle posted by: tltmason on 6/30/2008 at 5:39:05 AM
werke express bicycle it has a steel dog on top of front fender its ww 2 time period i would like to know what year it is the hub is torpedo it has 35 k stamped on it
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AGE / VALUE:   Another old Schwinn Super Sport posted by: Gralyn on 6/29/2008 at 12:06:08 PM
OK, I just saw another old yellow Schwinn Super Sport on ebay last night (1972 model)......it was already over $200. I went back this afternoon to see what it actually sold for.......like $307 !!!!!!!! I could not belive it. Well, I have one just like it. Per the serial number, it was made in 1971....which I suppose makes it a 1972 model. I had the wheels hanging in my work shop and the rest of it was hanging up in the back of the garage. I got it out last night - I suppose I will re-build it or something and list it on e-bay. Who knows?

Here is the item: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130232838501
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           Schwinn Super Sport posted by John E on 7/2/2008 at 8:42:32 AM
Fillet-brazed CrMo Schwinn frames have long been undervalued, probably because they look too much like their heavier electroforged cousins. If your Super Sport is reasonably complete, I recommend cleaning it up and keeping it essentially original. Another good option is to "hot rod" it with a 3-piece aluminum crank, which also opens up all sorts of (9/16" shank) pedal options.
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           RE:Schwinn Super Sport posted by Gralyn on 7/2/2008 at 5:49:40 PM
I believe my Super Sport was all original except for the tires. I'm not sure about the bar tape - it was white, plastic type - and it looked to me that it was probably original - but it was so old and dirty - and wouldn't clean up - so I put some new, just like it (probably NOS) on it. It has Campy dropouts - I didn't know that. Well, since I already have a 71, or 72 Sports Tourer - I think I might just try to sell the Super Sport. I need the space.
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AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify bicycle posted by: Andre Desaulniers on 6/29/2008 at 5:28:40 AM
Hi,
I am looking for help in order to identify a bicycle that I have found in the attic of my garage.
The particular thing about it is that there is an indian head on the front mudguard.
There is no brand name anywhere on the bicycle.
As for the badge in the front of the bicycle steering, we can read "Majestic" then the stylized "M" and finally "Montreal, Quebec". I can see also a lion on two bicycle wheels. I think it may refer more for the dealer than to the maker.
The wheels are 26" x 1-1/2".
Do you have any suggestion of what the maker could be or could you suggest me a reference that could identify the maker?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Best Regards,
Andre Desaulniers


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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Need help to identify bicycle posted by Warren on 6/29/2008 at 10:08:00 AM
Majestic was a Canadian manufacturer out of Montreal that made bikes for at least a few decades. I've seen a number of their single speed roadsters. They also made some high quality components...I have a Majestic coaster hub. It's of equal quality to Perry or CCM in terms of fit and finish. The 26 x 1 1/2 inch tires will be difficult to source. They are a British F12 size...they have the same diameter has the Trade bike 26 x 1 3/4 with a slightly narrower rim. They will fit in a pinch.

I've never come across a history of the company.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help to identify bicycle posted by kenna keith on 4/7/2009 at 5:33:54 PM
does anyone have any info on this high wheeler, It was my dads and he has sincew passed. I have no info on it and there are no markings except on the front and rear hub. Any info would be helpful.
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AGE / VALUE:   decals of Centurion Semi-Pro posted by: C. Roberts on 6/28/2008 at 7:26:18 PM
I recently picked up a Centurion Semi-professional that is roughly from the mid '70s.
Does anyone have any pics of the decals?
Thanks in advance.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   decals of Centurion Semi-Pro posted by David on 6/29/2008 at 7:02:01 AM
See Classic Rendezvous.com or search WoolJersery.com/gallery

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MISC:   Larz Anderson Bicycle Show & Swap Meet posted by: Peter Naiman on 6/28/2008 at 9:15:17 AM
As posted before the Larz Anderson Bicycle Show & Swap is coming again this year on Sunday July 20th on the grounds of the Larz Anderson Automobile Museum, 15 Newton st., Brookline, MA 02445.

Entry charge for adults is $10, for children $5.00. This covers entry into the show with bikes etc. There is no additional charge for entering bikes into the show or swap meet spaces.

The Museum has a new staff on board headed by Tyler Burns, Assistant Director, as of a few months ago, and for everyone involved in the show it brings a breath of fresh air to the Museum and our show.

Friend Maurice Bresnahan, and Co-Chairman of the show & Tyler Burns of the Museum have worked out an agreement so we can now bring back the swap meet this year, so we can now revive the show to its original format. There will be no charge for the swap meet. We ask that everyone try and pre-register for the swap, although folks can show up the morning of the show to register. Set up time for the swap starts at 8:00AM.

We have about twenty table that the Museum has on hand, but once those are gone we will be renting the tables from a local supplier. There will be a $10.00 per table charge to rent a table once the initial supply of the Museum are all signed up for.

Set up time for the Concourse or bike show will begin at 9:00AM, but for those attending the Vintage Ride, staff will be on hand to register the bikes by 8:30. Pre-registration is not necessary for the Concourse, but we would like to know what you are bringing so we can publish it as a preview to the list.

As we do every year, voting for the Concourse will be by "Popular Choice" voting of everyone attending as ours is not a Concourse de Elegance". A list of awards available will be posted in a few days.

VCC Member Chris Barbour will be leading a Vintage Ride departing the Museum grounds promptly at 9:00AM. Please be prepared uneven city pavement and crushed-stone carriage paths in the city’s 19th Century parks… 28mm tires minimum are recommended. The pace will be easy and unhurried, suitable for all bikes and riders. Meet at the Museum’s building entrance.

Also, for visitors who will arrive in Boston on Saturday and wish to have a bit of sightseeing, the Veteran-Cycle Club is happy to offer a more substantial ride that afternoon. Again, it would be unhurried and suitable for all bikes and any level of fitness. Anyone interested should be in touch with Chris Barbour at his email address by Friday morning, up to noon, July 18. This will be arranged by e-mail @ Christopher.Barbour@tufts.edu

To log onto our website for the show, please click onto the URL below.
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/larzanderson.htm .

linked to the site is the "registration form" (which can be downloaded for printing) for the Concourse and the Swap Meet, plus links to many photo albums from prior shows, plus directions and contact information. If you want any additional information please write to me by email at my Yahoo address above or contact Susan at the Museum @ 617-522-6547.

Also as an addition for the show will be a display of extenct and rare automobiles which in prior years has included a few Stanley Steamer, Stutz Bearcats etc. This should all make for a very fun day for all.

Best regards,
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AGE / VALUE:   My Cannondale Experience - update posted by: Gralyn on 6/27/2008 at 9:07:15 AM
Being kind of a "collector" (anything I collect has to be something I can ride, though), I had decided I wanted a Cannondale. I had never spotted one at a thrift store, or a garage sale, etc. - so I looked on e-bay and found a frame. I built it up - but turns out - the frame was much bigger than indicated - far too large for me to ride. So, I have been wanting to sell it or trade it.
Meanwhile, I kept searching e-bay for a Cannondale frame that would fit me. I found several - but couldn't afford them and was outbid, etc. Finally, I landed one at a price I could afford. I guess I didn't pay enough attention, or didn't ask enough questions - but when the frame arrived - and I began to install 700C wheels - and found they would not fit! Turns out it would only accommodate 650C wheels - and it was a Triathlon frame! I decided to try and build it up anyway....so I searched and searched until I found a set of 650C wheels within my budget....then the tires and tubes.....I decided to build it up as a more "modern" racing bike with drop bars and STI shifters, etc. Then I found that the steerer tube was 1" rather than 1 1/8".....which limited me on finding a carbon fork with threadless headset, etc. I wasn't able to find shifters at a price I could afford - so I went ahead and built it up with down-tube shifters. I rode it a while.....and it actually rode better than I thought it would. In spite of it's geometry - the ride wasn't too rough.
The whole time - I'm thinking this bike is very late '90s or early 2000's. Well, I found this web site: vintagecannondale.com and tried to find information on it. Per the head badge - it indicated 1990 - 1996. So, I looked through those catalogs - and I found it: it is a 1993 R700 Triathlon bike. I was disappointed it was that old. (but it is still a great bike!). Mine was the same color as the one in the catalog.....and at least now - I know what components it had, etc.
So now, I'm trying to build it up as a Triathlon bike. One thing I noticed when I installed the front derailler - the indention left in the paint from the original der. was much higher up on the seat tube......it turns out - it originally had a 56 T chainring! (the largest one I have is 53 T).
I put some bull horn type bars on it, and clip on aero bars, and put bar-end shifters on the ends of the aero-bars. At least now - it looks like a Tri bike. Now I'm trying to find a 56 Tooth chainring....at a price I can afford.

I still have the tall (63 - 67 cm - depending on how you measure) Cannondale SR600 I would love to trade for a smaller size. If anyone is interested in a tall Cannondale, or would like to trade, or if anyone has a 56 tooth chainring - let me know.
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AGE / VALUE:   Mercier 19" racing bike posted by: D on 6/26/2008 at 3:42:36 PM
I have a Mercier 19" racing bike that I purchased brand new in 1974. It is a 10 speed bright lemon lime color. I have the serial number for it. It hasn't been used in years. Just hanging up in the barn. Needs new tubes and tires. Could someone tell me how to determine it's value? Mercier isn't listed in the menu to find pricing.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mercier 19 posted by David on 6/27/2008 at 6:37:06 AM
You'll need to educate yourself concerning its features. If it is a high-end Mercier, made of 531 tubing and has good quality European components, it could be worth upwards of $500. If it's low-end, made of ordinary steel and with low-quality components, you'll be lucky to sell it for $100. Check prices on ebay ("completed auctions") and look for bikes like yours.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Mercier 19 posted by John E on 7/2/2008 at 8:46:30 AM
Mercier was a decent French marque. As David mentioned, you first need to determine whether you have a Peugeot UO-8 class basic 10-speed (likely) or a high-end full-Reynolds 531 frameset (unlikely statistically and given the green color -- the high-end Merciers I have seen have been white, the most popular French racing color). David's price estimates are probably about right, but condition has a huge impact.
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AGE / VALUE:   Vintage water bottle posted by: Tim on 6/25/2008 at 1:40:18 PM
Hey I am looking for some help in finding out what I have. It is a water bottle, that is shaped almost like a diamond. It is clear and has a white pop off cap. It slides and locks into its cage. It has a v like design down the side. It appears to be a rare bottle, I haven't came across one in my 20 years with bikes. Any help would be great. Thanks Tim
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AGE / VALUE:   Advice on 1948 Rudge posted by: Rob on 6/24/2008 at 8:00:08 AM
I just picked up a matching set of 1948 Rudge-Whitworth English 3 speeds. They are in need of cleaning, new cables, tires and so on. They seem intact but will require hours of work to get them looking really good. I was wondering if anyone has any ideas where to start. Do I need special tools for these English bikes? Any ideas on how rare these models are? What they might be worth? I don


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Advice on 1948 Rudge posted by David on 6/24/2008 at 7:08:30 PM
Your photo link wants a login. If they are Sports models (26 x 1 3/8 tires) they are probably not worth a whole lot, even if they are in good condition. But... they should be great riders that will turn some heads!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Advice on 1948 Rudge posted by Keith Body on 6/25/2008 at 2:54:27 PM
I don't see special tools, a bench vise would be good.
I expect there's information on here, but these were badge engineered Raleigh, produced for working men and women as transport to a place of work. Cost was about 5 weeks total wages. Mass produced, but were always a little better than most other makes. Beware the bottom bracket and head bearings are 26 TPI, not the standard 24. Bottom bracket is L H thread on the right side, and is just screwed in tight. There used to be a clamp on tool to remove these, hope you don't need to, probably won't find a replacement.
Used to have a squeezing tool for crank cotter pin removal, and replaced with new. If you support the crank with the pedal to the front and unscrew the nut you can
tap the the cotter pin out. Use 2 small hammers, rest one on the cotter pin and sharply hit the first hammer with the other. If you are cleaning the rear hub, the left hand end plate is left hand thread, removable in the vise, the right hand is 2 start right hand thread, so mark the position before you remove it which can be done with a suitable cold chisel. These end plates are case hardened.

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