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MISC:   wastyn on ebay again posted by: Kent on 4/25/2008 at 7:44:17 AM
The black Wastyn that was listed on ebay a few months ago is listed again. Looks like it has been there a week or so.
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           RE:MISC:   wastyn on ebay again posted by smoke on 4/25/2008 at 6:06:37 PM
Anybody know why this auction was ended early last time?I question whether this is really a wastyn built bike.
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           RE:RE:MISC:   wastyn on ebay again posted by kent on 4/26/2008 at 6:36:03 AM
It says on the auction that the guy was not ready to sell for sentimental reasons I guess.
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AGE / VALUE:   Sears Hub posted by: Dave on 4/24/2008 at 9:00:14 AM
Is it normal for a Sears 3 speed hub to "click" in medium and high?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Sears Hub posted by David on 4/26/2008 at 3:08:33 PM
Yes
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AGE / VALUE:   Sears Hub posted by: Dave on 4/24/2008 at 9:00:14 AM
Is it normal for a Sears 3 speed hub to "click" in medium and high?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Sears Hub posted by Nick on 5/8/2008 at 7:19:32 AM
Mine clicks and it always has. No problem!
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AGE / VALUE:   Gitane ? posted by: Vaughn on 4/23/2008 at 4:38:31 AM
Hoping someone can give me some info on a recently acquired Gitane. Has Shimano 600 rear derailleur and Durace front.Cranks have Tourney on them and centrepull brakes have Weinmann 610/Vainquer 999 on them. Bars are cinelli as neck.Has # G0679 stamped on dropout. Ken to know if this is a low end model or have i stumbled on something worth hanging on to. Shifters are on down tube and are Shimano 600 also.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Gitane ? posted by David on 4/27/2008 at 12:50:08 PM
Gitane made a wide variety. Check out www.gitaneusa.com and see if that helps you.
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AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Competition circa 80's olympics posted by: Matt on 4/21/2008 at 3:52:55 PM
I've got a Raleigh Competition, circa 80's olympics. It is white with gray forks. It has shimano 6 series derailers and brakes. It has olympic stickers all over the thing, The name raleigh competition and the brake cabes are in yellow. I think the rim sticker says ukai. The bike is in excellent shape. I have the original dolphin seat nobody could take a ride on and survive the torture, but I don't have the original brake levers - they were upgraded. The pedals have built-in toe-clips. There a lever nounted on the angled tube behind the front wheel that flips down and locks the front tire straight - sort of a kickstand, obviously aftermarket. I've never seen it before. Bought the bike off a guy that had it hanging in his garage for 15 years. It was crusted in dirt and grease. It cleaned up to look like new. Anybody have any info on the bike and what it could be worth? I paid him $100 to get it out of his garage last summer and now ride it locally for pleasure. It is extremely light and nimble. The bike shop mechanics drool over it. Do they know something I don't?
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WANTED:   English lightweight parts wanted posted by: Geoff Rogers on 4/21/2008 at 11:20:09 AM
I recently acquired a 1960 Dunelt Fleur-de-Lys with 531 butted tubing. It's a fine old bike but I would like to find a few things to improve it, to wit:
Here’s what I seek for this machine:
1. period alloy crankset (did they make alloy cottered cranks?) with some decent interval between the chainwheels: the original Williams ones I have are 49/52 or some silly thing like that. 46/52 or even 40-ish would be better!)
2. frame pump. It’s 18 inches between the pegs and all my pumps are too short.
3. period wingnuts. This machine has acorn nuts, if you please. On a 531 butted frame. What were they thinking?
4. alloy UK-made pedals, if there is such a thing
5. Any information on Dunelt lightweight machines. I have never seen one before. How can I find out more?
Has anybody ever heard of a Dunelt Fleur-de-Lys? I have a couple of other Dunelts and have owned several in the past, but they have all been three-speeds, 24, 26, or 28 inch wheels.
Any guidance would be helpful. I have been using this bike and will continue to commute with it, but it would be nice to get some lighter cranks and a bit more low range gearing up front.
Thanks,
Geoff Rogers
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AGE / VALUE:   Philips posted by: Sven on 4/18/2008 at 6:30:53 PM
I have recently acquired a Philips, woman’s bicycle. It has no nameplate, aside from the manufacturer. The logo on the head tube is a gold lion, against a red background, with the words “Renowned the world over”. Under that is the Philips name and Nottingham.

The rear hub is a Sturmey-Archer 3-speed, with the date code 70. There are cable hand brakes, front and rear, with a cable gear changer. The serial number that I got from the seat tube is 158298.

Is there anything that anyone can tell me about the age and worth of this bicycle? It’s in nice condition, with only minor paint scrapes, and the tires are bald. There is also some minor damage to the seat.

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Philips posted by David on 4/19/2008 at 2:30:04 PM
Hub is 1970, bike was probably made shortly after the hub. It's a standard Raleigh-made 3-speed. You won't make much money selling it; they're worth around $100 in areas where there's some demand for them. If you don't have one already, keep it and use it.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Philips posted by Sven on 5/9/2008 at 11:42:55 AM
Thank you. The only reason I asked was because I was finding a lot of conflicting information on the internet. I am not a bicycle collector, I just found the thing in a trash pile, and was going to cut it up for scrap. I figured that I could get more by selling it than by scrapping it, so I started looking online.

A lot of the sources I found didn't agree with each other. One source I found said that Phillips ceased to exist after Raleigh bought them and another said they stopped using Nottingham after 1967. I was also (and still) unable to find serial numbers that didn't have letters in them.

With the help of, mostly this website, and a few others I am able to conclude that my bicycle is a 1970 Raleigh built Phillips. I was able to disprove most of my other sources. Also the rear fender supports are attached behind the rear hub (as opposed to above, which if my source was correct, indicates a Phillips made bike).
Thank You Again For Your Help.

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AGE / VALUE:   Sears Austrian 3 speed posted by: Dave H. on 4/18/2008 at 12:42:52 PM
I found up this Sears made in Austria 3 speed. Its very clean. Does anyone have any info about it? How I can obtain the age/value?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Sears Austrian 3 speed posted by Ed on 4/18/2008 at 8:17:36 PM
I have owned a few Austrian 3 speed bicycles. I find them to be the best made bicycle of its style to be found anywhere. The Steyr plant made them. Not worth anything to a antiques dealer but to someone who likes riding old bicycles like me priceless! I own a Steyr brand bicycle when they were made by Astro Daimler. Exceptional quality for a basic bicycle. The hubs were A1. The headsets are a special size. Go ride it, selling it is a waste of effort. Ed
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Sears Austrian 3 speed posted by joel on 4/24/2008 at 1:41:06 PM
Here's a top-of-the-line 56 model. Great bike! The later ones are a little cheap (no cable guides, ect) but still very good bikes.

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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Sears Austrian 3 speed posted by Ed on 4/25/2008 at 4:43:12 PM
You win! That is the best one I've seen. Ed
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MISC:   1970? Bottechia Professional Geometry posted by: Matt Dwyer on 4/18/2008 at 8:14:33 AM
I have an old, trusted Bottechia Pro with Campy Record crank and derailleurs. I bought it in 1980 used, and switched the tubulars for clincher rims and put on sidepulls with a drop bolt.

Anyone have geometry table for this bike? Very pleasant ride, and it has eyelets, so I use it for quick touring sometimes. Doesn't look good any more as I kept it in a shed and the chrome rusted badly :(. Yeah, go ahead and shoot me.
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AGE / VALUE:   Serial Numbers for Motobecane posted by: Edmo on 4/17/2008 at 3:52:42 AM
Does anyone know where to fine any charts, or how to use Motobecane bicycle serial numbers? Trying to ID age of one, thanks!

Edmo
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Serial Numbers for Motobecane posted by Dave on 4/17/2008 at 10:21:58 AM
Serial number dating information for Motobecane's is very scarce. The best way to date a Moto is by the design and tubing used on the frame, the decals, paint scheme, components and component date codes.
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AGE / VALUE:   1976 (I think) Motobecane Super Mirage - Bottom Bracket posted by: Mark on 4/16/2008 at 2:58:23 PM
I recently acquired a 1970s Motobecane Super Mirage frame.. it looks like it's been in a museum for the last 30 years. it has the original crank arms but no bottom bracket. How can I determine what, if any, available bottom bracket will work on this bike?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   1976 (I think) Motobecane Super Mirage - Bottom Bracket posted by Dave on 4/17/2008 at 10:17:56 AM
BB's on many early Motobecane's were Swiss threaded. You migtht be able to pick-up a low-end donor frameset to salvage the BB.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: 1976 (I think) Motobecane Super Mirage - Bottom Bracket posted by Ed on 4/18/2008 at 8:23:56 PM
I put a sealed unit in mine by removing the mounting threads from a regular square taper Shimano cartridge. Then I dropped it in the cups from the original BB. Not original but solid. Ed
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   1976 (I think) Motobecane Super Mirage - Bottom Bracket posted by David on 4/26/2008 at 3:13:46 PM
Super Mirage is mid-70s and, I think, usually had Japanese components. It might very well use the commonest threading: English. Check it out first with an adjustable cup from any Japanese bike and see if it will thread in easily on the left (and WON'T thread in on the right). Good luck.
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MISC:   1961 tiger posted by: Doug Allen on 4/15/2008 at 5:34:36 PM
I just bought this bike on eBay. During shipping the
bottom race was lost and the seat post bolt and nut were
lost. The seller sent another bottom race, looks to me
the top race is one of the two nuts? So the bike has a crome clamp for the post. Looks like an odd bolt and nut I need. If anybody knows were I can get one, please E-Mail
at Sadie4ever1@Gmail.com
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AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Camero posted by: richard on 4/14/2008 at 12:16:15 PM
i am purchasing a huffy camaro bicycle for $150 in just a few hours, its something i found on craigslist, it looks to be in really great shape all original except the tires are new. it is a single speed with bendix coaster brake,it is "pearl green" that's all i know about it. i am wondering if i am paying the right amount? i would like to think i was getting a bargen even because i may decide to resell (i have too many bikes already but cant pass this one up) so what could i sell a rideable all original huffy camaro bicycle for? (p.s i dont know the age either but it has a built in headlight and book baskets on the rear)
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Camero posted by David on 4/15/2008 at 12:10:06 PM
Isn't this some kind of Stingray-type bike? I doubt that anyone on this forum can help you value it. American-made Huffy bikes are notorious for their bad craftsmanship, but if it's worth it to you, buy it.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Camero posted by prexphil on 4/26/2008 at 11:53:58 AM
The camaro I just bought is a tank bike. Mettalic green with a headlight, taillight, and a rack on the back. Needs new tires, but looks to be in good shape otherwise. A few scratches and a small dent on one fender. Bought from side of road in N. Indiana for $40 but I think is worth significantly more. I found a picture of bike on this site:
http://oldroads.com/pqdb_img.asp?p=fdbdown.asp?629&mod=Camaro&mak=Huffy
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Camero posted by Phil Henry on 5/10/2008 at 12:53:41 PM
THIS is a Huffy Camaro. I hope the pictures can be viewed through the link, if not e-mail me please. This Camaro rides- the tires are a little rough but hold air. Notice the head light and TAIL light!


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Camero posted by Phil Henry on 5/10/2008 at 1:11:03 PM
http://www.kadakgallery.com/MyGallery.jsp?UV=70684471652_368275501112

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MISC:   Dunelt Fleur-de-Lys cogs/tubing posted by: Geoff Rogers on 4/14/2008 at 7:16:15 AM
Last week at the Copake swap meet I acquired a nice old Dunelt lighweight, and I am trying to find out more about it. It has a Reynolds '531' sticker, partly scraped off, but you can tell that '531' was diagonal, and on the bottom right corner are the letters "...TED," "...KS," and "...YS." Does this mean it's a double-butted frame, including forks and stays? I heard from another Fleur-de-Lys owner who claims his was straight-gauge 531, main tubes only. Mine was built in Birmingham, so I am guessing it was made before the Raleigh-TI merger in 1960, or did they keep building lighweights for a while in Birmingham after the merger? The bike has Benelux levers but a Campy Gran Sport rear derailleur, which was retrofitted, I suspect. There is no front derailleur. Brakes are "Grand Prix". Anybody ever heard of them? They look period aluminum, like a GB sidepull. The gears are very close. Can I get a wider set of rear cogs? I assume it's s Cycle freewheel; do they interchange with something a little easiser to find? I have a front Gran Sport derailleur, which I will probably install, if I install anything at all up there. Can I get a smaller lower fromt chainwheel for the Williams setup? I think it's 49/52, which is pretty useless unless you are a much better cyclist than I and riding on flat stuff. We have hills here. ANyhow, I am very pleased with the machine. It's pretty decent, not many scratches, and with a little maintenance and some ratio-swap[ing, I think it will be a nice ride. So now my Mercier with butted 531 frame, Campy hubs, Super Champ 27" rims, Mafac CP brakes, etc. is for sale. It's charteuse, very loud! Rides great. Any ideas about value would be helpful.
I am a 3-speed guy, but I am enjoying learning about lightweights.
Geoff Rogers
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           RE:MISC:   Dunelt Fleur-de-Lys cogs/tubing posted by David on 4/14/2008 at 7:38:27 AM
The diagonal 531 label suggests that the stays and fork are butted also, but they're not. I don't believe that Raleigh ever produced anything but Raleighs in 531, so I'd be surprised if yours were anything but a Birmingham Dunelt. I expect that the freewheel threading is standard and that any English-threaded freewheel would work. Check ebay to see what kind of price your Mercier might fetch.
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           RE:MISC:   Dunelt Fleur-de-Lys cogs/tubing posted by Phil Boardman on 4/30/2008 at 4:18:20 AM
Hi, back in the early 60s I had a Fleur De Lys lugless Cycle that was definately Rynolds 531, the sticker being very clear. If I remember it had Track Ends and it was painted silver with the French Flag colours on the downtube, very nice too.
At the time I always thought that the bike was french but now I guess not ?
My mate had a Mal Rees Chiltern made in Hayes where we lived at the time......
I wish I had the Fleur De Lys now !

Regards, Phil
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AGE / VALUE:   Miyata Vintage 15 spd- College Student posted by: Ryan on 4/13/2008 at 8:43:51 PM
Hello,
I'm a college student at the UW. I am looking for a commuter bike to get around campus/ the general area, I want a road bike vs mt bike. I found a Miyata Vintage 15 spd road on craigslist.
W/ the following description:
"Miyata 15 speed “Six Ten” Road Bike has a 21” Frame with 27 x 1 ¼ in. alloy quick release wheels. Includes handlebar bag, Zefal frame pump, L.E.D. tail light and water bottle cage. In great running condition. "
(http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/641048371.html)

My other thought was to buy a new cheap Shimano off ebay for a chicabike someone who to some form of distributer.

Does anyone have any advice? I know what I get when I buy new but my friends have told me to look at something used. I'm looking to spend up to $250 but preferably less. I need to be able to lock it up between classes, so I would be scared to buy anything to nice.

Thanks,
Ryan

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Miyata Vintage 15 spd- College Student posted by Gralyn on 4/14/2008 at 5:34:04 AM
For up to $250 (including shipping), you could probably find a good variety of used road bikes on ebay - and have them shipped to your door. I didn't see the craigs list posting you are referring to - but it sounds like it is a decent bike.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Miyata Vintage 15 spd- College Student posted by Ryan on 4/14/2008 at 10:37:04 AM
Thanks. I'll have to continue shopping ebay. I think the bike must have already sold. I'm planning to go look at one today... I'd hate to pay $60+ for shipping but if it is a good deal I could go for it.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Miyata Vintage 15 spd- College Student posted by Ryan on 4/14/2008 at 8:51:58 PM
Thanks for all your help. I decided to buy a '92 cannondale st600 off craigslist. It is in decent condition but I'll bribe my friends to help fix it up a little. It is a little weird w/ grip shifters but I'll figure it out eventually.
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