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AGE / VALUE:astra women's 10 speed tour de france posted by: mo on 4/13/2008 at 5:39:09 PM
I found a women's 10 speed astra tour de france at thrift shop for 20$. Does anyone know anything about them? Going to see about having it restored, the tires are old. I am new to cycling and wanted to start with something cheap and easy. Thanks:)
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AGE / VALUE:astra women's 10 speed tour de france posted by: maureen concannon on 4/13/2008 at 5:39:09 PM
I found a women's 10 speed astra tour de france at thrift shop for 20$. Does anyone know anything about them? Going to see about having it restored, the tires are old. I am new to cycling and wanted to start with something cheap and easy. Thanks:)
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MISC:Ross Carrera posted by: Sonja on 4/13/2008 at 12:34:58 PM
Hi, Am purchasing a vintage Ross, very famaliar with the company history, and really can't find anyting about the Carrera line from Ross. I think it is very early 80's mostly steel/aluminum and Shimano gearing components. I am looking for a heavier/durable bike for a commuter and was wondering if anyone knows anything about the Carrera line from Ross? Thanks!
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RE:MISC:Ross Carrera posted by Sonja on 4/13/2008 at 12:47:33 PM
here is a pic, I think because of the single "R" decal on the head of the bike it is a "custom"? That is all I can find-the imports from Asia had "Ross Import", the PA ones had the Ross plaque embossed on the head and the custom bikes had the R decal...(at least that is what I have found)any assistance is appreciated, I like to know what I can :o)
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AGE / VALUE:   Liotto Super posted by: Luis Guevara on 4/13/2008 at 1:09:00 AM
I had posted that I was in the process of buying a Cinelli that had been ridden in the TDF 98/99. Apparently, according to the seller Cinelli is stamped on the bottom bracket, the pics i have have Liotto Super stickers all over the frame. Its a beautiful bike for sure. Not sure of the value, and for the life of me cannot find a single site with info for me. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again,
Luis Guevara
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RE:AGE / VALUE: Liotto Super posted by Warren on 4/13/2008 at 6:27:14 PM
Be very careful. Without verifiable, documented evidence that this is a tour bike, forget about it. Cinelli provided bottom brackets to possibly half of the classic steel bike manufacturers from the '60's on. That doesn't mean it's even been near a cafe au lait.

Now there was a Team Lotto in the tour...they became Caloi I believe.
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:� � � Liotto Super posted by luis g on 4/13/2008 at 11:16:19 PM
Thank you very much. It is truly appreciated, and i will keep all posted as to the outcome for what appears to be a killer bike.

Luis
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RE:AGE / VALUE:   Liotto Super posted by David on 4/15/2008 at 1:49:31 PM
The "55" stamped in the bottom bracket is very likely the frame size, which is often seen on Italian bikes. I'd be very skeptical about the TdF provenance and only buy it if it were a good deal for me APART FROM the claimed TdF connection. Good luck.
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RE:AGE / VALUE: Liotto Super posted by ZANDOVAL on 5/1/2008 at 7:42:23 PM
Wow- Its great to hear the name Liotto again - When I was stationed in Vicenza Italy there was a bike shop that made custom road bikes for local clubs - Giovani Liotto Jr made me a road bike and his father Sr had to fit it for me due to me being a lanky six foot (in Italy thats tall) GI that had never ridden a road bike - Most of the craftsmen working in the shop worked part time at the shop and full time at the Campanolo factory down the street - My bike was brazed Columbus tubing and Tuto (All) Campanollo - The bike fit like a glove and carried my six foot 180# frame from Assiago to Rome - Never having the discipline to race in Italy I enjoyed the company of riding with the old guys way behind the pack - Besides - The wine and pace was better - I have never had a better bike and miss it dearly - I was 22 years old - It was 1974 - And I bought it for $154.00 and 3 cartons of cigarettes...
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RE:AGE / VALUE:   Liotto Super posted by J Wade on 8/23/2009 at 11:34:55 AM
Interesting story, I just dug a old road bike out of a garage, and it has on the front frame tag "Liotto Gino Vicenza" and on the rest of the frame "Liotto Super" The derailers are both Campanoll. Looking for any other Info. Thanks J. Wade
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RE:AGE / VALUE:   Liotto Super posted by J Wade on 8/23/2009 at 11:38:19 AM
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RE:AGE / VALUE:   Liotto Super posted by J Wade on 8/23/2009 at 11:39:24 AM
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MISC:tubing stamp posted by: george on 4/11/2008 at 5:11:38 PM
I have a 1960's Frejus of which i'am repainting.The tubing is stamped columbus in a oval with bird above,under the oval it's stamped 071,any know what these # mean thanks George
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AGE / VALUE:   Cinelli Serial #55 posted by: Luis on 4/11/2008 at 11:52:45 AM
I have the chance to purchase a Cinelli that apparently was ridden in the TDF in either 98/99. All i have thus far is the serial number of 55. I am waiting on pics today. Any advice, help would be awesome! Thank you.
Luis
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MISC:Simplex Italy posted by: wade eva on 4/10/2008 at 4:19:56 PM
I have what we think is a 1953 Legnano Roma Olimpiade. It came with the original Simplex Bar Lever front deraillure. The aluminum cap on the deraillure reads, "SIMPLEX made in Italy." I have searche high and low at all the vintage lightweight sites (veloretro, sheldon brown etc.) with no luck. Can anybody shed some light?
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RE:MISC:Simplex Italy posted by Chris on 4/11/2008 at 9:58:49 AM
I own one of the shifters. Pulled from the ruins of an old Shop in Detroit. I have it mounted on my W.W.2 BSA airborne paratrooper folding bike and I use it to shift my Huret Alvit!

I was excited to find it! Excited to get it in use and I love it's looks and love to use it. My friend sniffed Simplex bah! but I ignored him and was out in the lot grinning after I set it up!

these shifters are rare and your post is the first time I have heard one mentioned.

Campagnolo made parts in France too, weird, wonderful and unexpected because we all associate Italy with Campagnolo!
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AGE / VALUE:Raleigh International posted by: Mike on 4/10/2008 at 10:30:48 AM
I haven't seen one this clean since I got intrested in them.

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MISC:Simplex Skewers posted by: Bryant on 4/9/2008 at 1:33:54 PM
So last fall i go to a local Goodwill and pick up this spray painted 10 speed for $20. I bought it just because it had a Campy seatpost. Sold the seatpost on Ebay for $15 in Jan. and started working on the bike. I get to overhauling the wheels and i notice it has Simplex skewers. never saw them before, they're kinda cool looking. So I check on Ebay, nothing. I fix up the wheels and get ready to put them on the bike and i decide to check Ebay gain. There is one set going for $15 and there is a reserve on it. For Skewers??? I figure why not, i have other skewers that will work just as well. I put them on for 49.99, that will cover the cost of the bike and some parts. There is less than 2hours left and the bid is up to over $100. For skewers??? I don't get it. I'm really happy, that's much more than what i was going to sell the bike for, but really confused. Are they relly that rare and worth that much???
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RE:MISC:Simplex Skewers posted by Bryant on 4/9/2008 at 1:42:18 PM
Sorry i just reread the the post. The opening bid was $9.99 not 49.99
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RE:MISC:Simplex Skewers posted by Bob Hufford on 4/10/2008 at 12:41:26 PM
I'd venture a guess that they may be going to Japan. Our bike collecting friends in the Land of the Rising Sun have a thing for old French bikes and bits. I picked up a mystery bike for $30 at a swap and sold the Stronglight crank (missing a chainring) off of it for $250. If it had had that other ring I probably would have doubled the price. They probably think we're nuts for our high priced Schwinn Sting-Rays and vintage BMX ...
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RE:RE:MISC:Simplex Skewers posted by Bryant on 4/11/2008 at 2:42:44 AM
You're right it was a Japanese bidder who won. But with what I got on that auction, I bought a nice large steel (probably Reynolds) frame with beautiful Nervex lugs. I'll take that trade all day long.
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MISC:frame tubing posted by: george on 4/9/2008 at 5:52:31 AM
I have a frame where the tubing is stamped with a oval,inside is columbus with leaves above it,below the oval are the numbers 0 7 1,can someone tell me what the numbers indicate? thank you George
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AGE / VALUE:Year of a PX-10 posted by: Dave on 4/7/2008 at 10:01:43 PM
I've just acquired an early 70's Peugeot PX-10 that I'm going to restore, and am trying to determine the year. Serial number is 2444952. I'm pretty certain it is '72 or slightly later. Any clues?

Thanks.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Year of a PX-10 posted by Gralyn on 4/8/2008 at 6:35:56 AM
You can check on classicrendezvous.com. There also used to be a Peugeot PX-10 website.....dedicated to the PX-
10 - but I don't know if it still exists
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Year of a PX-10 posted by steve davey on 4/9/2008 at 5:06:12 PM
hi just pick up a old peugot serial # B1126613 it has vitus tubing special double butted with BCM lugs and simplex drop outs also came with simplex sx410 long cage rear der brase on front der simplex triple crank lightrase headset mafac center pull brakes what year and model thanks
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AGE / VALUE:Firestone Vagabond Featherweight posted by: Gary Maul on 4/7/2008 at 7:58:03 PM
Any info on Firestone Vagabond Featherweight bicycles. Single speed, coaster brake, 26x 1,3/8 tires. Can't find name on rear hub. Dark green with "Featherweight" on top bar and "Vagabond" on down tube.
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AGE / VALUE:Concorde Americas posted by: Lorraine on 4/7/2008 at 12:44:30 PM
I have a Concorde Americas which I bought used at least 10 years ago. It has a 19" frame with 26" wheels. It has Shimano 105 components. I can e-mail out photos.

Is this bike worth anything more than just as a used bike? What would be a reasonable price to ask? Thanks.

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AGE / VALUE:Victoria 10 speed posted by: jean-pierre parent on 4/6/2008 at 2:17:11 PM
My landlady has this beautiful bike hanging in her garage and was going to sell it for $20 when I STOPPED her!!! I thought I'd get some info about this bike so I could pass it along to her. It says "made in west germany" (in english) looks to be from the 60's or so, and is green and gold and just gorgreous. anyone have any insights, we'd appreciate it! i have pics i can email.

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AGE / VALUE:Mystery Peugeot posted by: rw on 4/6/2008 at 2:12:54 PM
Help... started spring cleaning and am deciding what to do with my Second-hand Orange Peugeot 12-speed racer... restore it or sell it? It resembles a 1966 PA-10, but it's got 12 speeds and the SunTour shifters are on headset...(wierd).. .also the air pump brackets are located on the downtube. Its got a black&gold striped Peugeot logo on the downtube also. The bottom bracket is pretty loose and its got RY K4 stamped on it when I turned the bike upside down. ... no luck with finding serial # though... the seat-post tube has 'North Star Cycle - Vancouver' label on it which makes me wonder what kind of shady past this bike has had - since I live in Ontario... Anybody any ideas? Thanx..


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RE:AGE / VALUE: Mystery Peugeot posted by Warren on 4/6/2008 at 4:44:23 PM
I'd say it's early 80's and don't restore it. There's too many of them around in better condition for less money than it will cost you to restore it. Put your efforts into something more collectable.
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RE:AGE / VALUE:Mystery Peugeot posted by rw on 4/7/2008 at 7:34:06 AM
OK. but what year is it? I checked thoroughly all the pictures on the peugeotshow website (a link from classicrendezvous.com) and did not find any of the models there with the distinctive hook or bracket on the downtube for the air pump. I don't know what Peugeot models have this distinction. Other than that, why are the shifters located on the headset? All the pics I browsed through have the shifters on the downtube.
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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Mystery Peugeot posted by Gralyn on 4/7/2008 at 12:30:41 PM
It looks kind of like a U-08. I see a lot of rust on the fork crown and other areas. It would be quite expensive to restore - and then not worth the money you put into it afterwards. I know during the 1970's there were a lot of bikes with stem-mounted shifters. Many of the Schwinn's had shifters up at the stem - but they were actually mounted to the head set.


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RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Mystery Peugeot posted by Warren on 4/7/2008 at 4:28:16 PM
I understand your desire to find out everything you can about this bike. That's what we all do. But this genre of Peugeot is so ubiquitous that it's practically ignored by collectors. That may seem odd but it's close to the truth. It's very likely, the most mass produced "lightweight" bike ever. The pump pegs were made from stamped steel. The stem shifters were a late 70's thing so it may date from then. They weren't a great idea.

It's not a unique, older frame dressed up with unusual components. The headbadge is modern as is the rest of it. If it fits, tune it up and ride it until it's dead. These bikes are just fine as riders as many on this list will agree.

About 2 years ago, I parted with a 9.5 outa 10, pristine circa '67 AO-8 (predecessor to your bike). I'm sorry I did because it really was sweet looking, better made than most 70's models and I only got $100 for it. If you put $600 into chrome, paint, decals and parts for your restoration, it likely wouldn't get $100. Bikes need real pedigree to have value. We're not getting rich from this hobby.
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RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Mystery Peugeot posted by ken on 4/10/2008 at 11:10:37 AM
from the angle the photo allows, it appears to me as though it may have have downtube shifters originally- isn't that a brazeon next to the cable stop clamp on the downtube? Mid to late 70s - even if it was stem-shifted originally, it probably started out Simplex- the Suntour would be somebody's upgrade.
As Warren says, they made an awful lot of cheap bikes, and continued to use parts and designs long after they were outdated. I have pictures of a touring mixte with the same lugs and stamped pump pegs- let me know if you want to see them.
The lugs are cool, ain't they?
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