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MISC:   1979 Raleigh Pro Info posted by: Thomas Edwards on 1/9/2008 at 4:25:03 PM
I am trying to find the origin of a pro. Pics can be viewed at www.cwhatic.net. I have tried many lightweight sites and cannot get it nailed down. Sure would appreciate advice on places to look. Thanks Friends!


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           RE:MISC: 1979 Raleigh Pro Info posted by Warren on 1/9/2008 at 5:33:28 PM
Sounds like you found out pretty much all there is to know on the Serotta board, no? It's a sweet, custom team replica out of Worksop and that makes it special indeed. Enjoy it.
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AGE / VALUE:   made in germany posted by: javier on 1/8/2008 at 11:12:21 PM
i acquired an old bicycle. the only label i found on it was an idication that a had a sticker that said iverson on it. and on the frame itself i found an engraved "made in germany" it has a fake gas tank and perhaps a light in the front. ill add a picture soon.
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AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Sprite posted by: Joel Oberman on 1/8/2008 at 7:15:34 PM
My son was given a Raleigh Sprite and we would like some info on it if possible. Head badge says made in England, has Huret shifters and derailleurs,pinch bolt cranks (Raleigh?),Sturmey-Archer hubs with no date code. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Joel.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Raleigh Sprite posted by Joe on 1/8/2008 at 9:38:36 PM
The Sprite, 27" wheel version was a post 1968 built model.
It was pretty much an upright version of the Raleigh Record. There were a few 27" three speed versions out there as well, but most were 10 speed with the Raleigh/Huret derailleur set up. They switched to Raleigh branded Suntour derailleurs in '77 or '78.
They were decent bikes, not top of the line but very solid rides.
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AGE / VALUE:   Rossin Record posted by: Philip on 1/7/2008 at 11:12:59 PM
I have a Rossin "Record" with Campagnolo parts. I tried to find information about its worth on this site and elsewhere but am not having luck. Anyone with ideas? I would be grateful
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Rossin Record posted by Warren on 1/8/2008 at 5:02:46 AM
Raossins were great bikes...popular in the 80's and 90's. Classic "handmade" italian bikes and geometry, I've only ever seen Columbus tubesets. I almost bought one in 96 and wish I had.

They were sold in Toronto by La Bicicleta. Maybe they have more info on them? They have Rossin frames listed on their web site but they are currently carrying no stock.

Value is typical of other nice italian bikes...components condition and desireability factor into it.

http://www.labicicletta.com/
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rossin Record posted by Ron on 2/17/2008 at 7:47:42 PM
I also have a 1984 Rossin. I bought it new and continue to ride it extensively. It is red with Campy dropouts, chrome fork and chain stay, Columbus tubing. It is a very comfortable bike. I continue to ride distances and it does very well. Starting to show wear and age, has some rust on brake cable stays and shifer braze ons.
I am not sure of it's money value, but I have been stopped many times with riders wanting to look at it. I am thinking about having it restored: painted and new decals
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MISC:   Single speed on eBay posted by: Joe on 1/7/2008 at 11:05:06 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130184861527

Check out the price it sold for. Maybe I shouldn't be ignoring all the department store brands in trash piles when I go hunting?
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           RE:MISC:   Single speed on eBay posted by David on 1/8/2008 at 4:03:28 PM
20 bids! I guess a good listing helps more than I thought. Luck, too, I'm sure. I'm just surprised anyone lavished that much attention on a junky frame with no assurance it would sell.
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           RE:MISC: Single speed on eBay posted by Warren on 1/8/2008 at 4:26:31 PM
Private listing...I think it's bogus with shill bidding.
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           RE:RE:MISC: Single speed on eBay posted by Joe on 1/9/2008 at 12:17:42 AM
I sort of was thinking the same way, but the sale did end, and the seller at that point would be responsible for the final value fees. It's not the first bike he's had listed that's gone way too high. Not such great feedback either. I can't imagine someone running several auctions and shill bidding them up like that only to have to pay eBay's commission on that amount. The ironic part of it isn't that the seller listed such a bike, its that someone some how thinks its was worth $242.50.
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           RE:RE:RE:MISC: Single speed on eBay posted by Warren on 1/9/2008 at 5:51:38 PM
Shilling works and it's rampant on ebay. If a low end beater sells for more than a 531 Raleigh Super Tourer, it proves the old saying that there's a sucker born every minute.

http://tinyurl.com/268m6n


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           RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: Single speed on eBay posted by Joe on 1/11/2008 at 7:34:57 AM
I saw that Tourer, I'd have bid on it myself if it were larger. I did consider buying it for it's parts, but I'd hate to part out a good bike that someone can still use.

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           RE:MISC: Single speed on eBay posted by Walter on 1/12/2008 at 5:59:37 PM
There certainly could've been shilling involved but you have to consider the quality of the listing itself. Lots of good pics, professional shop background, very good word choice in the description (nothing blatantly false but some "exaggeration" to be sure.

Definitely silk from a sow's ear to be sure. I haven't seen one of those dep't store "gooseneck" stems since, well since I was young enough to ride a few bikes like that.

(Not that I'm nostalgic)
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MISC:   Information wanted: Valgan Chambord posted by: Tom Stormcrowe on 1/6/2008 at 6:15:20 PM
Has anyone ever come across a small European (French, Belgian or Spanish) Frame builder that manufactured a bike called the Valgan Chambord? 1970's vintage and extreme attention to detail in the construction of this bike. I can't find any info on the bike nor can the owner. Is this from a small custom shop?
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           RE:MISC:   Information wanted: Valgan Chambord posted by Scott on 9/3/2008 at 9:15:59 PM
I just trash-picked an old white road bike/ ten-speed with the name Valgan on it. I have pictures if you would like to see it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30212705@N06/


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           RE:MISC:   Information wanted: Valgan Chambord posted by David on 3/28/2010 at 8:47:30 AM
Just wondering if you have found any information on this bike. My dad has had it for a while and just gave it to me because he wasn't using it. I've been doing research but can't find anything except people asking for information about the bike.
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AGE / VALUE:   How to Value Bikes? posted by: TimW on 1/6/2008 at 1:44:28 AM
Hello bikesters. I have come around to deciding to sell my most valuable bikes - really there's no sense them sitting around my house. I have several that are well-known and prized vintage lightweights / club bikes, and one 1950s bike from a high-end maker that is entirely unique and loaded with desireable parts.

So in order to sell them, how do I determine value and what is the best web site or approach to get their fair value. Any good tips are much appreciated.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: How to Value Bikes? posted by Warren on 1/6/2008 at 7:58:18 AM
Haven't seen you around for awhile Tim. Take detailed pics or everything of course.

I'd love to see your list of bikes of and would be happy to give you an opinion as well as directing you to other enthusiasts for advice about specific marques.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   How to Value Bikes? posted by David on 1/6/2008 at 10:13:22 AM
You can learn a lot about their possible value from following Ebay auctions.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: How to Value Bikes? posted by TimW on 1/20/2008 at 12:44:52 PM
Thanks Warren. Yes, I bounce in and out of using this site - life is too full of other things I want / have to do. I'll list what I want to sell here soon - some nice bikes! Tim.
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WANTED:   Nishiki frame (only) sold around 1977 posted by: Steven on 1/5/2008 at 8:15:00 PM
Hello everyone,
I'm looking for the full name or the actual road racing frame imported by Nishiki around 1977. It was a very high quality frame in a light brown color and, at least, was sold by Bikecology Shops in Santa Monica, CA. It has 74 degree parallel angles,16 inch chain stays, a beautiful fork bend,"vented" BB, Suntour veritcal drop-outs,and the lug and tang work was perfect(no gaps).

Any memories or sellers? I ride a 60 CM.
Thank you very much, Steve Preston
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           RE:WANTED: Nishiki frame (only) sold around 1977 posted by Joe on 1/5/2008 at 9:00:32 PM
If memory serves me right, the top of the line about the was the Professional, then the Competition, Olympic or International, then the Custom Sport and Sport. I've seen the International model in brown and blue, but I can't remember a brown in the Pro. I currently own a blue International and a champaign Custom Sport, and a Burgundy Sport. I did at one time own a slightly later Olympic, and I don't recall that having a cut out bottom bracket either.

The International, does not have a cut out bottom bracket. I am not sure about the Competition frames.
The Competition had been both their number two bike and later on I believe it came back as a number three from the top model.
I believe there used to be a few guys here that were more versed on the Nishiki bike lineup that may be able to clarify a bit.
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           RE:WANTED:   Nishiki frame (only) sold around 1977 posted by David on 1/6/2008 at 10:12:29 AM
My 76 Nishiki brochure has only Competition, International, and lesser models. Competition is double-butted with wraparound seatstays. It appears to have eyelets on the fork and dropouts. Supplied w/27" clinchers - probably not the bike you're looking for!
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           RE:WANTED: Nishiki frame (only) sold around 1977 posted by Joe on 1/6/2008 at 2:10:18 PM
Check out this link, there's several pics of various models posted.
http://www.slackers.net/'skoop/nishiki/

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           RE:RE:WANTED: Nishiki frame (only) sold around 1977 posted by David on 1/12/2008 at 7:27:02 AM
As usual, replace the apostrophe in the given link with a tilde (the uppermost-leftest key on your keyboard)
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AGE / VALUE:   Puch Break Away posted by: Luke Griffith on 1/5/2008 at 6:58:16 PM
I have a Bike made by Steyer Diamler Puch. I'm trying to find out the year it was made and what it is worth. I can't get the picture to work on this sight for some reason. The bike has 20" x 1.75 wheels, 1 speed with pedal brake and a front cable brake, a tire pump came with the bike. I have pictures I can send to whom ever emails me or replies.
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MISC:   Photo link posted by: Thomas Edwards on 1/5/2008 at 6:30:06 PM
The link below will not work. Photos at: http://www.CWhatIC.net


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           RE:MISC: Photo link posted by Warren on 1/5/2008 at 7:29:53 PM
Those downtube decals look like 90's...possibly a repaint?
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           MISC: Photo link posted by Thomas Edwards on 1/5/2008 at 8:19:58 PM
I apologize for not stating that I bought the frameset new in 1980. It is original. The serial # checks out being built in 1979
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           RE:MISC: Photo link posted by Warren on 1/5/2008 at 9:13:44 PM
Here's the catalogue...yours is very much like the Gold model with the same blocky letters. No examples of the pro decal. That mink blue wasn't available that year but you got one! Very nice bike.

http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Raleigh80s_Pro_frames/
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           RE:MISC:   Photo link posted by Thomas Edwards on 1/5/2008 at 10:51:22 PM
Warren, do you know how to get to the 1979 catalog? I tried changing the 80s to 79 and 1979 with no luck. I am getting excited finding out about my bike!
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           RE:RE:MISC: Photo link posted by Warren on 1/6/2008 at 7:50:56 AM
Here's the root directory. I had looked at the 79 but it doesn't appear to list a model similar to yours. Nor is it as comprohensive.

http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/

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           RE:MISC:   new info posted by Thomas Edwards on 1/9/2008 at 11:40:20 AM
Thank you Warren. I got some very interesting info on the Serotta Competition Bicycle Forums. General discussion Page 2. Look at 1979 Raleigh Pro ID.
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AGE / VALUE:   UK Raleigh Professional? posted by: Thomas Edwards on 1/5/2008 at 6:20:10 PM
I own Ser #WG9003204. It is Space Blue monochrome paint. No banding on seat tube and head tube is same color. Note the top tube decal! I have only seen one other like it. Very similar to many other Pro's, yet distinguished. Any info appreciated. Thank You!


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   UK Raleigh Professional? posted by Thomas Edwards on 1/8/2008 at 12:46:46 AM
Sorry about saying "Look at the decal" when you can't find it!! Go to www.cwhatic.net. View photo album, Bicycle.HA!
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AGE / VALUE:   es worral posted by: Paul on 1/5/2008 at 12:02:34 PM
Hello a good friend of mine recently aqquired a complete bike originally from the Glasgow based frame builder from the 1930s based in Hamilton.
Any further information would be greatly appreciated.
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AGE / VALUE:   Harry Quinn road bike posted by: Carl on 1/2/2008 at 5:33:27 PM
I have acquired a Harry Quinn road bike and I am wondering how rare the bike is and how old it may be. I am under the understanding that it was a custom built frame, built when Harry Quinn was living in Tenby, Wales. (I am from Wales, UK).
I am however uncertain of the age of it because the components on the bike seem to date to the late 80s and I have been unable to find information about Harry Quinn frames this late. The frame has a sticker stating that the tubing is Reynolds 653 and the frame number, on the bottom of the bottom bracket housing is Q136. The frame is painted flamboyant pink and white and has chromed forks and rear triangle.
The bike has the following components:
Shimano Dura-Ace, 7400 front derailleur, 7401 rear derailleur and downtube shifters. It also has Shimano 600, 6400 crankset and 6401 brake leavers and brakes, which all seem to date around 1987 - 88. I understand that the frame was purchased and fitted with these parts when new. The headset is a Stronglight Spidel and the bars and stem are Cinelli 63 – 40. The bike came with 3 sets of wheels, 2 sets with Mavic GP4 tubular rims, one set on Mitch hubs and the other set on Mavic hubs, both have screw on freewheel hubs. The other set is a set of Mavic MA40 rims on 7400 Dura-Ace hubs, which I cant use because I have not got a cassette and the hub has a freehub body incorporating its own coarse thread, so I cannot convert it to a HG freehub body.
I would much appreciate any information regarding the age and rarity of this bike.
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AGE / VALUE:   trying to determine make of my track frame posted by: taylor on 12/29/2007 at 11:05:24 PM
I purchased a track bicycle from someone recently. He did not know what the make of the frame was... A couple of shops could not tell me. I have posted pictures on flickr...

http://flickr.com/photos/ofstuff/set...7603454513383/

Any help is appreciated.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   trying to determine make of my track frame posted by taylor Carpenter on 12/29/2007 at 11:08:32 PM
hmm that url is incomplete... lets try tinyurl

http://tinyurl.com/yqzmk6

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   trying to determine make of my track frame posted by taylor on 12/30/2007 at 1:27:26 AM
Serial on bottom bracket is 18414 as far as I can tell. Has Brev. Campagnolo track drop-outs
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: trying to determine make of my track frame posted by Warren on 12/30/2007 at 8:38:20 PM
Is that a road fork or a track fork? (oval or round blades)With centrepulls it looks like it's road. What size is the seatpost? How much does it weigh stripped? English, italian or french bottom bracket? Is that rear bridge drilled for a brake? Looks like Nervex lugs on the headtube but it's too easy to get distracted by all those xmas ornaments. Who sold this to you, one of Santas helpers? Was he training for the next "IronElf" competition.

Ride it...someday, someone out of the blue will tell you what it is.

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   trying to determine make of my track frame posted by Taylor on 1/1/2008 at 11:05:41 AM
Not sure if the fork is track or road. I can not remember what the guy said about that. He may have said it was drilled for a brake... or it could just be a road. The fork crown does not seem to match the lugs though. What ever the case the brakes were not originally there with the frame.

Not sure about the weight stripped. Currently has stuff all on it... though I am pulling stuff off slowly (when I have time). I will weigh it when I get done.
I do not know how to tell the on the bottom bracket. Can you give me a tip? Rear bridge is not drilled.

Xmas lights are off now... They did help with visibility and were fun for a bit :)


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           RE:AGE / VALUE: trying to determine make of my track frame posted by David on 1/5/2008 at 5:02:34 PM
The seat junction looks like a Carlton frame (british) the way the seatstays wrap around. I understand that was their "exclusive" in the late 1960s. They used Capella lugs thru 1967, I understand. GB stamped by bottom bracket also would be consistent with a british or Raleigh/Carlton origin. The fork looks to have been drilled out later. I've not seen one like it before. It may be the original track fork because it looks like it was a straight fork rather than curved. The tubes look round not oval on the fork, also a distinctive feature. Can you show the rest of the fork and the fork ends?

How hard is it to strip a track frame? take off the wheels, stem/bars, seat/post, cranks and you are basically there. There is a way to lookup serial numbers on retroraleighs I think. Maybe they have carlton numbers too?
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AGE / VALUE:   Nice Berthoud... posted by: Mike on 12/29/2007 at 9:30:52 AM
Although a bit spendy? Ebay Item 320201050795.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Nice Berthoud... posted by Warren on 12/29/2007 at 5:05:12 PM
In the long run, worth every penny too.
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