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FOR SALE:   1983 Schwinn World Tourist posted by: Steve on 12/7/2007 at 9:03:29 AM
1983 Schwinn World Tourist man's bike. Has the 5 spd FF gearing. Unusual design that can only increase the bikes value in years to come.Nice looker as is or easy restore. N.Florida area, ONLY = $99


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AGE / VALUE:   old threaded shimano cassette posted by: jason on 12/4/2007 at 7:50:59 PM
any ideas on where I can get ahold of a early ninetys seven speed cassette, with the smallest cog itself being the threaded part? it's for a shimano 600 hub, and the diameter of the spindle is smaller than modern cassettes.
thanks

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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   old threaded shimano cassette posted by Gralyn on 12/5/2007 at 11:00:32 AM
Are you talking about the threaded portion of the hub, where the cassette screws onto? It's smaller than on most wheels?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   old threaded shimano cassette posted by David on 12/5/2007 at 4:32:55 PM
I think you mean a "freewheel" and Nashbar has 'em.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: old threaded shimano cassette posted by Warren on 12/5/2007 at 4:33:55 PM
Those are the original uniglide cassettes and they are not available. However, a good mechanic and easily and cheaply replace your cassette hub body for a newer Hyperglide body and you can use new 7 speed cassettes. See Sheldon as \usual...

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7.html#transplant
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: old threaded shimano cassette posted by Warren on 12/5/2007 at 4:46:16 PM
Sorry, not the original Uniglide but the later Uniglide. You still swap out the "freehub" or cassette body.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   old threaded shimano cassette posted by jason on 12/5/2007 at 6:06:38 PM
yeah I knew that my description of the problem was kind of out there, but I think that you got it warren.
i took the wheel in to about four shops, all the mechanics just shook thier heads, includeing the older guys.
I always forget about Sheldon.
this wheel is 17 or so years old and still by far the newest thing I have. thanks, jason
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   old threaded shimano cassette posted by Gralyn on 12/5/2007 at 6:24:20 PM
Now there is an older version - probably early 80's or so - that isn't compatible with anything. Where the freehub body threads onto the hub - it's smaller. I mean it's smaller. Like on most threaded hubs - you can remove the freehub and you could actually screw a track hub onto the threads. Well, these have such a small diameter - much smaller than the thread diameter of a track cog. There's not you can do in this case - unless you could find another one of these freehub bodies. I had one - but unfortunately destroyed it trying to remove it.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   old threaded shimano cassette posted by jason on 12/5/2007 at 6:32:15 PM
just looked at sheldons page on the uniglide to hyperglide conversions and saw that the uniglide cogs are reversible, that is they can be flipped exposing the unworn side of the tooth. Im going to give that a try and save the swapping out for a later day, like springtime. after all, this is my winter bike and its winter now... thanks again, jason
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: old threaded shimano cassette posted by Warren on 12/5/2007 at 8:18:09 PM
Jason...look at ebay!

http://tinyurl.com/yq7epc

http://tinyurl.com/yovyj9

Don't buy any Dura Ace UniGlide though...it's different again.
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AGE / VALUE:   LeCroco posted by: shaun on 12/3/2007 at 6:34:53 PM
I just picked up a columbus tubed LeCroco road bike . I understand it is a handmade Canadian frame . However thats all i know . If any has info that would be rad


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AGE / VALUE:   Technium posted by: john on 12/3/2007 at 2:41:11 PM
Just picked up a Technium 480 ready to ride (grease those bearings!) at the local thrift store. 22.5 " frame a bit small for me but it was in nice condition and the price was right. Did a bit of online searching and found mixed reviews. Anybody have any comments on it? thanx. john
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Technium posted by Gralyn on 12/3/2007 at 8:13:25 PM
I've had one of the Techniums for several years - built up as a fixed gear. I really like it - and have been pleased with the frame, the ride, etc.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Technium posted by john on 12/4/2007 at 1:50:15 PM
Gralyn:Thanks for the reply. I negected to mention that someone replaced the orginal stem/handlebar with extended stem and straight bar. I do have a Marathon of about the same vintage with orginal equipment and I'm wondering if bar/stem are close to what would have been used on the Technium.
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Technium posted by Gralyn on 12/5/2007 at 11:04:16 AM
Mine is like a mid-80's, so far as I know. Currently, I don't have the original bars and stem on it. But, I do recall - it was just typical standard stem and typical alloy drop bars like you would find on most all mid-level bikes of that period. I currently have randonneur bend bars on mine.
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           RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Technium posted by john on 12/5/2007 at 2:19:48 PM
Thanks....Was thinking of keeping it in the collection for a while just because of the unusual construction and wanted to return it to original. john
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AGE / VALUE:   What's New posted by: Menotomy Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 12/1/2007 at 6:35:04 AM
Be sure to check out what's new at OldRoads by clicking on the "What's New" icon near the top right hand corner of this page.

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MISC:   Seatpost size for Reynolds 531 tubing? posted by: Cathy on 11/30/2007 at 8:49:42 AM
Hello, I have a 1975 frame made of Reynolds 531 4 star tubing and was wondering if this tubing has a standard seatpost size or were there choices of inside diameter. Thank you!
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           RE:MISC: Seatpost size for Reynolds 531 tubing? posted by Warren on 11/30/2007 at 4:14:10 PM
It varies. If it's butted it can be 27.0 or 27.2. If it's not butted, it can range from 26.4 to 27.0. If you know the make and model, you may find it on Sheldons database.

http://sheldonbrown.com/seatpost-sizes-m-z.html
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           RE:MISC:   Seatpost size for Reynolds 531 tubing? posted by David on 12/1/2007 at 11:10:34 AM
The "four star" label doesn't indicate anything different about the tubing. It's still 531 fork, stays, DB tubes.
Seat tube should be 27.2 unless there's something quite unusual (like seat tube installed upside down).
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           Seatpost size for Reynolds 531 tubing? posted by John E on 12/3/2007 at 9:25:06 AM
English-diameter tubing (O.D. = 28.6mm = 1-1/8") generally takes a 27.0 or 27.2mm seatpost if butted, 26.4 if straight-walled. (I have one of each from circa 1960.)

Metric (mostly French)-diameter tubing (O.D. = 28.0mm) generally takes a 26.4 or 26.6mm seatpost if butted.
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           RE: Seatpost size for Reynolds 531 tubing? posted by Cathy on 12/4/2007 at 10:06:49 AM
I have tried a 27.2 and it doesn't fit. Would I be able to feel if it was butted? The inside tubes are smooth to the touch. I will look for a 26.4 post to try. Thanks John E!
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           RE:RE: Seatpost size for Reynolds 531 tubing? posted by Warren on 12/4/2007 at 4:57:53 PM
If the Reynolds tubing sticker says "Butted tubes" then it's butted or the decal is a fake. Don't try to force any post into your frame. 2 tenths of a millimeter difference will make a post unusable.

Most good bike shops have a seatpost gauge and will tell you exactly what size it is. Go this route.
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           Seatpost size for Reynolds 531 tubing? posted by John E on 12/7/2007 at 8:27:19 PM
... or buy yourself a micrometer caliper capable of measuring outer and inner diameters, as well as plunge depth -- a worthwhile $20 investment with myriad uses.
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           Seatpost size for Reynolds 531 tubing? posted by John E on 12/7/2007 at 8:31:14 PM
You cannot distinguish butted tubing by feeling down the seat tube, because the seat tube is butted only at the bottom bracket end. This is why seat post diameter is a pretty good indicator of frame butting -- you are looking into the thin-walled portion of the tube.

Having no butting at the top of the seat tube accomplishes a few objectives, including providing a uniform surface against which to bear the stress from the seatpost. The main triangle's major stress points are both ends of the downtube, the bottom of the seat tube, and the front of the top tube, and these are all thickened equally in a double-butted frame.
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AGE / VALUE:   Dating Weinmann 605 side pulls posted by: ronp6 on 11/28/2007 at 5:55:54 PM
I am trying to identify a frame with Weinmann 605 side pulls and on the underside there is an 80 and a clock arrow pointing to the 2. I am guessing they are 1982's?

I bought 3 frames with no investigation from a guy whose roomates were complaining about his yard art: a Raleigh Racing 555 tubing from Tiawan that I flipped and an unidentified english frame with brakes and Suntour Power Shifters that turned out to be a Dawes (marked on the rear dropouts). The short wheelbase and all reynolds 531 tubing, forks and stays and the brakes say a 1982-83 Atlantis to me; well worth a $50 powder coating.

Does anyone have a 1982-83 catalog that they could tell me the original color? It looks like a medium blue under the repaint.

Oh, and the third is a Motobecanne Grand Touring with a 27.2 seat post hammered in because as he told me "all the Reynolds have 27.2 seat posts" only this was Vitus tubing and yes the seat tube is stretched at the top and colapsed at the bottom bracket. Two out of three ain't bad!
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MISC:   UO-8 wheel, brake, seatpost and stem question posted by: Tom on 11/27/2007 at 6:42:52 AM
I'm picking up a Peugeot UO-8 for a singlespeed build. I think it takes 27" wheels. Does anyone know if it will accomodate 700c? Would I have to change brakes?

Also, can the kooky stem be swapped easily, i.e. does it have a 1" steerer clamp and handlebar? And will the seatpost take a modern saddle?

Lastly, any issues foreseen in removing the outer chainring and guard?

thanks in advance.


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           RE:MISC:   UO-8 wheel, brake, seatpost and stem question posted by john on 11/27/2007 at 4:36:56 PM
Hey Tom:Earlier this year I put 700x35's (much wider than 27 1 1/4) on a World Sport that had 27's and it took about 20 minutes to make the switch and about 4 hours hunting through the parts bin and friend's donor bikes to find calipers and a stem that would fit! Your LBS should be able to help you on the stem if you don't access to used parts. I also installed plastic fenders to keep the mud off me...worth the effort and adds very little weight! I can't see any problems with the chain ring except to that you might need to install washers as spacers to take up the space previously used by the chain ring you removed. The only potential problem I see is to make sure hub width fits your dropouts. john
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           RE:MISC: UO-8 wheel, brake, seatpost and stem question posted by Warren on 11/27/2007 at 5:01:47 PM
Mafac Racers will reach. I made the same conversion.

You can improve the stem and bar combo with other french components. The seatpost is the worst part of the bike since it has no "stop". It will take any seat but make sure the clamp stays tight or the saddle will slip down onto the post and distort. I'd be tempted to drill a small hole and pop a stainless rivet in it to prevent this. Why not lose the whole crankset and put an inexpensive alloy unit on? Keep the bottom bracket cups and swap the axle out to suit.
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           RE:MISC:   UO-8 wheel, brake, seatpost and stem question posted by David on 12/1/2007 at 11:12:44 AM
If you're going fixed gear, you might want to retain 27" wheels to give you a tad more pedal clearance when cornering.
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AGE / VALUE:   Help Identify My Bike Please posted by: Brooke on 11/26/2007 at 8:45:57 PM
I recently acquired an older French bike and am hoping to collect some information.

Does any of this sound familiar to you?


Reynolds 531 butted tubing
Reynolds Taper-Gauge HM SR Fork
There does appear to be a bracket for a front derailleur, but no derailleur itself.
The stem has a double bolt clamp and it’s label is in script. It may say Unid or Unic and also Brevete.
The Front hub is labeled Edco and has two large wing nuts which I assume are the predecessor to quick release systems.
Brake Levers: MAFAC
Rear Shifter: Huret
Platform Pedals: Berthet Lyotard made in France
Downtube: "La Sportive"
Head Tube: Decal with an old Sailing Battleship Top Tube: "Type Course"
Seat Tube: another ship decal and "Paris"
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Eagle which looks too new for the bike
Bottom Bracket Stamp: Nervex 61 o 64 o 022 2(in small type) E38

Thanks,
Brooke


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MISC:   Huffy Dream Girl posted by: Suz on 11/26/2007 at 2:15:14 PM
Hi

I have an older girl's Huffy bicycle with banana seat and it's "name" is "Dream Girl". I can't seem to find anything about it. Can anyone help? I'll try and get a picture soon.

Thanks :)
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           RE:MISC:   Huffy Dream Girl posted by cher on 8/13/2009 at 9:28:42 AM
I have one also, I love it and would like to have it restored and save for a family member. I can not find another on the internet searches and I do not want to invest money if its not worth the money.Have you had any luck finding its value? cher
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AGE / VALUE:   Shimano Racing Chrome bicycle posted by: Chris on 11/26/2007 at 10:53:35 AM
I picked this bike up at a swap meet years ago. I am not sure of the maker nor of the year. It is a steel lugged full chrome frame with blue Shimano racing decals on the down tube. It is has full Shimano 600 components. Araya rims (clinchers). I have not been able to find out anything on this bike. Please help or this bike will soon become a fixed gear beater. Thanks, Chris
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Shimano Racing Chrome bicycle posted by Warren on 11/26/2007 at 4:35:29 PM
Here's a subjective and maybe controversial method of deciding.

Are the dropouts forged or stamped. If stamped...beater. If forged and are also "vertical", then the fixie may be more difficult to setup.

Does it have a frame sticker suggesting butted tubing? If not...beater.

Is the chrome rusting and pitted. If yes...beater.

Does the bike weigh more than 24 lbs? If so...beater.

Ebay the 600 components to finance the building of a rear fixed wheel.

Luck!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shimano Racing Chrome bicycle posted by David on 12/1/2007 at 11:16:43 AM
Around here (Boston) you can get fixed/free machine built wheels w/ss spokes, Weinmann rim, and IRO hub for about $50.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shimano Racing Chrome bicycle posted by Chris on 12/3/2007 at 7:41:34 AM
I am adding the serial #, if that might help.
It is M2H11278
The drop outs are forged, and horizontal. The chrome is ok, but someone started to remove it and paint some of it. The dropouts are also stamped Shimano. Does anyone have an Idea of who the manufacturer was? I dont believe shimano made frames. Thanks
Chris

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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shimano Racing Chrome bicycle posted by David on 12/8/2007 at 9:21:30 AM
One or two (maybe the same) "Shimano" bikes have turned up on Ebay over the last few years. They seem to have been good quality frames (built by ?) intended to showcase Shimano components. I got a Guerciotti this spring w/600 group on it that also sported a big vinyl "Shimano" on the top tube. (I couldn't stand it and removed it) Take photos of the frame construction details, post 'em on the net, and see if anyone recognizes it.
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MISC:   Raleigh Identification Help Please posted by: ronp6 on 11/25/2007 at 4:29:20 PM
I just acquired a Raleigh that doesn't seem to fit any US models for 1972. The serial number is G3073 and the bike has a 26.8 seatpost that seems to fit so I thought the frame was straight guage Reynolds 531 which should have a seatpost of 26.4 but the fork is identical to my 1972 Professional as is the TTT Record stem like the Professional. The bike had Campagnolo NR derailleurs. There is no sign of chrome on the fork tips or stays and the fork does not have the chrome trim at the bridge of a Professional. The chain stays are identical to an older Super Course and has the same cable brazons as a Super Course. Does anyone have a catalog of home market bikes that might explain the bike?

I believe the bike has been repainted to its current metalic blue and other than a butted 531 Reynolds sticker on the fork there are no decals which would help.

I can post pictures but I don't think they will help.

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           RE:MISC:   Raleigh Identification Help Please posted by steve on 12/3/2007 at 10:05:48 AM
I suspect that what you have is a repainted Gran Sport. They are often found showing signs of hard use (like mine) and would be a prime candidate for a repainting. They were, I think, the lowest-grade early-'70s Raleigh to have a full 531DB frame, and most of the Carlton/Raleighs seem to have the same cable brazeons. Try making a tiny scrape in the paint where the forks/stays should be chromed; I suspect that they were painted over after chrome went out of fashion.
You don't say how the stays "are identical to an older Super Course", but I suppose you mean that the dropouts are plain - no derailleur mounting boss. The 1973 catalog showed the Gran Sport with boss-equipped Simplex dropouts, but mine has plain dropouts, as do other Gran Sports that I've seen, both on the road or on eBay. (Frank Berto, in "The Dancing Chain" notes that Huret and Simplex couldn't agree on specifications for derailleur bosses, and I would guess that it was simpler to use a plain dropout with a mounting plate for the derailleur.)
If it is a Gran Sport, you have a good frame. Mine is a very well-liked commuter, now fitted with a Sturmey 5-speed hub.
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AGE / VALUE:   CCm Formula 1 posted by: Hugh on 11/23/2007 at 6:42:14 AM
I have recently purchased and am restoring a CCM formula 1 mens 10 speed road racer (style) bike. I am not sure when it was built.I did not see any numbers under the crank housing.
The shifters are on the down tube. And it does NOT have the
add-on brake-levers that allow you to brake when using the horizontal bart of the bars. pic/craigslist/Mi/lansing/Bikes
or I would be happy to e-mail a pic to anyone (for dating the cycle) thanks, Hugh
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AGE / VALUE:   HoldsworthMistral Information posted by: John Fleischer on 11/22/2007 at 6:23:53 AM
I have a Holdsworth Mistral orange in color 531 ST reynolds tubing. It is a long wheelbase and has a touring fork with braze ons for front rack. Serial number is 047156. Trying to learn the year and value of the bike.





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           RE:AGE / VALUE: HoldsworthMistral Information posted by grubb1937 on 11/22/2007 at 5:24:35 PM
Holdsworth Mistral dates from the late 1970's/ The frame number starts with 0 which would indicate a build date of 1980. Don't know what the US value would be.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: HoldsworthMistral Information posted by John on 11/23/2007 at 4:04:50 PM
Thank you for your information
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AGE / VALUE:   heirarchy of components posted by: Valerie on 11/20/2007 at 9:18:53 AM
Maybe we can make a list here of the quality of components we find on older 10 and 12 speed bikes.

For example, if I see a bike with Shimano Lark and another bike with Shimano 600 components, how do I know which one is better?

Can we start a list here ranking them? Best to worse? I think it would help a lot of novices.




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           RE:AGE / VALUE: heirarchy of components posted by John E on 11/20/2007 at 1:11:21 PM
I think there is a similar effort on BikeForums.net. Also, if Frank Berto would grant permission, one could post his Campagnolo, Shimano, and SunTour timelines, which listed categories such as entry level, mid-level, high-end racing, etc.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   heirarchy of components posted by Steve on 11/21/2007 at 2:01:01 PM
I find myself wondering about the Sugino Maxy crank. The variations just seem to go on and on.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   heirarchy of components posted by Valerie on 11/26/2007 at 7:50:23 AM
I've been hunting around for the past 6 days and cannot find a clean simple list - or anything even close to a list - that indicate a heirachry of components.

Can we just start making a list here?
What are the low and high ends of older Shimano?
Is all Campy better than all Shimano?
I've never ever heard of Sugino.
Some kind if ballpark reference would be great.
Thanks


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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: heirarchy of components posted by Warren on 11/26/2007 at 6:47:58 PM
The sheer number of components, makers, models and years would make a "bad, better, best" list absolutely impossible, especially since desireability often has little to do with quality or initial purchase price. Most enthusiasts will say that Campy Record is always top drawer. Some disagree with this. It's often said that old Campy Record derailleurs would shift poorly, but forever. I've got a $5 Suntour Seven derailleur that shifts better than the top Campy shifter from the same year...which is better? The nature of quality is discussed beautfully in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, as an aside.

Sheldon Browns website contains much of this information in a well organized contextualized, website. If you need a ballpark reference about a component, just ask the list.

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