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AGE / VALUE:   VintageidesBianchi posted by: John C on 6/21/2007 at 6:06:43 PM
I have been considering buying an old Bianchi but the owner is it a bit uncertain about its age. The bottom bracket is stamped 58.5 which is the size and also has a 59 on the other side. He has a feeling it is 1959. The Columbus tubing decal I suspect might suggest otherwise that I have seen on bikes from the late 60s. I cannot find any info on Columbus tubing history on the Internet. I've posted pictures of the bike at http://s191.photobucket.com/albums/z184/vool5/?
I would certainly appreciate any input from some Bianchi enthusiasts. Thanks, John


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   VintageidesBianchi posted by David on 6/22/2007 at 3:05:25 PM
See

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Columbus_main.htm
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: VintageidesBianchi posted by Warren on 6/22/2007 at 5:15:08 PM
I don't know...it doesn't look like an older Bianchi. They had those integrated headsets. Is it a Bianchi at all is the question. The drillings on the BB shell and the lack of B's embossed on the forks. And it's a repaint. Buyer beware.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: VintageidesBianchi posted by John E on 6/25/2007 at 3:00:35 PM
Having never seen a Bianchi with either a drilled BB shell or holes in the headlugs, I concur with Warren. The seatstays also do not look Bianchi-esque to me.
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AGE / VALUE:   mafac brake replacement/repair posted by: jason on 6/20/2007 at 6:18:15 PM
I am cleaning up a velosolex LE Parriesenne(spelling)
for a guy. the brakes are mafac racer and the rear seems to come loose at the place it screws into the alloy bracket pretty easily. the owner who bought it new said that it did it from day one. since the rear brake mounting hole in the frame is vertical I have nothing that will fit as a replacement. thinking about using locktight, but thought I would ask anyones opine. jason
ps. whats with the biker babes picture ad on the homepage. wrong kind of biker babe.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: mafac brake replacement/repair posted by Warren on 6/21/2007 at 4:47:59 AM
Locktight is the solution in my mind.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: mafac brake replacement/repair posted by Warren on 6/21/2007 at 4:48:30 AM
Loc-tite?
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AGE / VALUE:   Parts wanted posted by: Chris on 6/20/2007 at 2:05:34 PM
Dia Compe pre 1985 cantileaver brak pad positioning washers alloy

e- mail
humberchristopher29@hotmail.com
thanks
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Parts wanted posted by Chris on 6/21/2007 at 7:23:15 AM
Oh, the importance of keeping one's act together. Sold a 100 year old oak table and a piece is missing..

Brake parts that cannot be replaced. Wheels cannot be changed to 27 x 1 1/4 because of brakes not working at all either. I'm limited with these wheels.
I'll spend days searching for these things.
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AGE / VALUE:   Roadmaster, Pacific, Motobecane? posted by: john on 6/16/2007 at 4:35:26 PM
Looking thru the usual collection of Walmart junk bikes at the yard sales today and suddenly I spy a Motobecane Mirage Sport. Wheel strapped to frame, no seat, seat post, pedals,brake cables...looks like it came out of box minus the stuff a dealer would install. Guy says got it at auction some time ago and has the missing parts in his garage, stop back next week. Price was a dirt cheap, so I took it. Can anybody date this thing? Non-lugged Motolite frame, 12 speed, 27x1" Rigida, Weinman brakes, Sachs Huret Pilot der. Also says Made in France. I thought they shut down production there long ago. Anyway, looks like an entry level bike to me. Any info appreciated. Thanx, john
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Roadmaster, Pacific, Motobecane? posted by David on 6/16/2007 at 5:40:09 PM
Is it like this?
http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/motobecane/images/motobecane0007.jpg
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Roadmaster, Pacific, Motobecane? posted by john on 6/16/2007 at 7:00:35 PM
David: My components are different from the brochure except for Weinmans. In addition to the components in my original post, mine has Nervar crank and down tube shifters. I did note from the brochure that they highlighted lugless construction,,hmmmm! Could this be an 80's bike that was never "unpacked?" john
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Roadmaster, Pacific, Motobecane? posted by David on 6/17/2007 at 9:39:07 AM
It could sure be NOS. Shops go out of business all the time with old out-of-style stock on their hands.
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AGE / VALUE:   Peugeot purchase advice?? posted by: J. Dugosh on 6/16/2007 at 1:02:56 PM
Hello. I am thinking of purchasing a used (circa 1986) peugeot road bike. I am just wondering if anyone can tell me anything about it, because I was asked to "make an offer" and I have no idea what is a reasonable price (I DON'T want to rip off this person OR pay too much). The model number is PHLE1054. It is really light (titanium? alluminum?). Can anyone help me out
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Peugeot purchase advice?? posted by Jess on 6/17/2007 at 4:04:02 PM
Be sure all the components are in great working order. The bike is French which means finding the right piece, mechanic or tool can be a issue depending where you are. Because its harder to work with its worth less than it would under normal conditions.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Peugeot purchase advice?? posted by J. Dugosh on 6/18/2007 at 9:43:51 AM
Thanks so much for the information! It seems that everything is in GREAT working order--near mint. Any idea how much this bike is worth? I'm COMPLETELY in the dark. $100, $200, $300, more??? Can anybody give me a guesstimate? Thanks!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Peugeot purchase advice?? posted by David on 6/18/2007 at 11:02:25 AM
I don't know the model, but it is very unlikely to be a "collectible," so its value is limited to its utility as a bike (not as an investment!). I would think that $200 would be high for an 80s Peugeot unless it was built with double-butted chrome moly steel tubing, in which case there would be a sticker on the frame saying something like "Reynolds 531" or "Vitus" with the word "renforcee" on it. If that's the case it might be worth a little more. If the bike is equipped with Japanese components, it probably has standard (non French) threaded parts.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Peugeot purchase advice?? posted by Chris on 6/19/2007 at 5:03:19 PM
The fashion turned to mountain bikes. Do you like to ride this? Does it call out to be ridden? do you not want to come back when you get the call that dinner is ready?

too recent to make a buck on as far as selling it goes. Unless it's 10.00 and even then.

we need a picture.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Peugeot purchase advice?? posted by Shelby on 6/19/2007 at 5:45:41 PM
If the bike is the fused aluminum frame bike, it is somewhat rare. Even more rare because they were recalled. I had one never had a problem but Peugeot traded me out of it into a Columbus frame bike I still have. - I don't have my old books on it but I would definately determine if it has the aluminum frame.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Peugeot purchase advice?? posted by John E on 6/25/2007 at 3:02:29 PM
If it really is a 1986, it may be Canadian, in which case it will have English/ISO threading and diameters, instead of French or Swiss.
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AGE / VALUE:   what does campy mean posted by: james on 6/15/2007 at 5:34:23 AM
i see it all over the discussion areas, thanks.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   what does campy mean posted by David on 6/15/2007 at 5:44:05 AM
Campagnolo brand. High quality (usually) Italian parts
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   what does campy mean posted by JAMES on 6/15/2007 at 6:33:50 AM
THANKS
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   what does campy mean posted by Chris on 6/15/2007 at 6:56:11 AM
It means you lay your hands on as much of it as cheaply as you can. It means you study it like crazy back, down, up and forth and chase all over the earth acquiring it. People collect it, ride it and are mystifyed by it like it hold's magic powers.

Also Juy Simplex, G.B. Gerry Burgess.
Go buy the book: The dancing Chain History and developement of the derailer bicycle Raymond Henry and Ron Shepard at the local bookstore they will have to order it. Study this like mad, fall asleep reading it every night. Go forth and collect and when you know what you are doing.....
Sell it.

Make money.
enjoy life!
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           RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   what does campy mean posted by Chris on 6/15/2007 at 6:58:40 AM
It means you pull out the whole drawer and put the whole drawer in your car and drive away.
It means that you examine every bike in the place and acquire the whole bike whatever it takes.

Campy equiped bikes mean the bike is worth bringing home. Tullio Campagnolo or Campy
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           what does campy mean posted by John E on 6/27/2007 at 7:13:01 AM
The updated and expanded second edition of "The Dancing Chain" lists Frank Berto as the sole author.

I am by a Holland-based American ex-pat that told Europeans who know bicycles say either "Campa" or "Campagnolo," never "Campy."

Most Campagnolo gear is well-crafted and durable, but, after 1970, rarely cutting edge or innovative in engineering or design. Campagnolo did introduce the modern cam-operated quick-release axle ca. 1930 (Tullio's first patent and the company's first product) and the first parallelogram rear derailleur in 1951, in a world dominated by wretched bandspring units from Simplex and Cyclo. However, Maeda SunTour invented the now-ubiquitous slant planograph rear derailleur ca. 1968, and Shimano made the first truly functional index shift system and the first integrated brake-shift controls, although Campagnolo's Ergo system is mechanically superior and facilitates feathering of the front derailleur cage position. Campagnolo has also inexplicably adopted a 135mm chainring bolt circle in a 130mm world.


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AGE / VALUE:   SLALOM posted by: sale on 6/15/2007 at 1:22:12 AM
I have a bike for which I can't find any info.I'll post some details so if anz one have some idea please help.
Frame has engraveing ESGE ,and next to it madein Germany,it has sticker ‚‚SLALOM‚‚and on afront side ‚‚L‚‚ ,rear hub is shimano 5353FB, front hub is WECO ,front brake is WEINMAN VAINQUEUR 750, rear is shimano oil disc,actually this is a hidraulic disc brake ,but only thing that is written on it is‚‚shimano oil disc‚‚
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   SLALOM posted by james on 6/16/2007 at 2:23:45 PM
i posted similar with esge on frame and was told the brackets were probably from esge to be put on frame for the kickstand and fender bracket i too would like to know if esge did produce frames .someone said more likely puch built it.if it is austrian.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   SLALOM posted by sale on 6/18/2007 at 1:21:19 AM
ESGE was engraved on a frame.It could only be in some connection with a frame.I have found some factory in Germany
,they are producing tubes ,steel or aluminum ,for auto motive industry,car seats air bags etc
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AGE / VALUE:   steel, lugged all chrome schwinns posted by: Chris on 6/14/2007 at 9:22:33 AM
Estate sale:
Schwinn Super Le- Tour.
all chrome japan frame.
10 speeds nothing special about the componets
another all chrome made in chicago lugged frames the both of them.

$100.00 per bike I passed but wonder what they are worth?
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   steel, lugged all chrome schwinns posted by Chris on 6/14/2007 at 12:54:31 PM
Chrome frames, lugged, steel. I was wishing they said Paramount on them because they looked similar to the famed Paramounts and Superiors with the campy equipment but No, different model.

I passed.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   steel, lugged all chrome schwinns posted by David on 6/15/2007 at 5:47:27 AM
Are there some Japanese-built Schwinns that carry a "Schwinn Chicago" headbadge? It seems to me that I have seen these.
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   steel, lugged all chrome schwinns posted by Chris on 6/15/2007 at 7:00:41 AM
Yes. It is one of the two and it has the Chicago badge but was made in Japan. $100.00 all chrome steel, lugged.
Silly me thought at first glance these were chrome plated Paramounts.
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AGE / VALUE:   Viking Frames posted by: Drew on 6/13/2007 at 4:51:44 AM
What is known about VIKING frames, circa 1972. Seems well made, and has campy parts.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Viking Frames posted by Warren on 6/14/2007 at 4:37:11 PM
Killer bikes. As good as it gets according to many purists.
http://tinyurl.com/yxoktq
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Viking Frames posted by Chris on 6/15/2007 at 7:02:01 AM
WHOO- HOO OH YES! Go my son. Bring it back! tell us more.
Serriously, a good thing you lucky dog!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Viking Frames posted by Warren on 6/15/2007 at 3:52:33 PM
Sorry Drew, where did you get '72? They stopped production in '67. Is it a 531 frame? Does it look high end? Or better yet, get some close up pics of all the frame lugs and dropouts and let us know. Anecdote; One of the premium frame restorers and painters in Canada (Tony Beeks)rode only one bike. It was a Viking Track bike and he talked about it with hushed reverence.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Viking Frames posted by C. Roberts on 6/27/2007 at 7:49:34 AM
A good friend of mine picked a Viking wreck up a couple of years ago and had Mike Berry of Toronto restore her.
She is a beaut!
Nice find!
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Viking Frames posted by Danielle Grant on 7/20/2010 at 10:38:50 AM
interested in the value of a ladies 1936-1938(?) viking roadster bike,
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MISC:   Juventus Bicycles?? posted by: Andrew on 6/12/2007 at 2:25:07 AM
Good day,

I recently picked up an intriguing vintage roadie that looks to be made by 'Juventus'. It's a red frame with chrome forks and dropouts, a GrandAm seat, campy componenets throughout, and a cottered crank. I've searched high and low and can come up with little else than an inclination that it's a French/Italian design or knock off.

Thanks.
Andrew.

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           RE:MISC: Juventus Bicycles?? posted by henry on 6/13/2007 at 4:19:33 PM
If my memory is correct, Juventas is / was made by Bianchi. The lower line bikes that I've seen are identical to the equivalent Bianchi. I remember once seeing a picture of a young Felice Gimondi racing on a bike with Juventas markings.
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           RE:RE:MISC: Juventus Bicycles?? posted by Andrew on 6/13/2007 at 8:36:00 PM
Thanks for the reply and the Bianchi lead. I have some more explicit details that may or may not help in figuring out more about this bicycle...

Balilia side pull brakes, Ambrosio front/Wienmann rear wheelset with Shimano 333 hubs. German pedals (Made in Germany with a clover insignia), stem says ITM on one side and Made in Italy on the other (I assume we're talking about the same thing here?). The top tube has 'Championne du Monde' in red/white and the downtube shifters with red centers say, BREV INT right above the Campy patent stamp.
The Michelin 'Fifty'?? tires with yellow Michelin badges on sidewalls still hold 90psi reliably.

Thanks again! Any idea of value or vintage? I assume maybe 70s with the cottered crank but the quick release on the front wheel is throwing me off...

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           RE:MISC: Juventus Bicycles?? posted by Henry on 7/19/2007 at 6:07:30 AM
The wheels you describe are not original to the bike. This bike would have been produced with all Italian components. I'd say it's about the equivalent of a Raleigh Gran Prix of the same era...mid seventies. Let me venture a guess...it has bullet shaped seat stay ends, right?
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AGE / VALUE:    PUCH PATHFINDER How much? posted by: JEWELS on 6/9/2007 at 10:42:38 PM
Hello All,
I am trying to find out how much my PUCH Pathfinder Male bicycle is worth. It was only use maybe 3-4 times then stored inside. It is a purple/red burgandy in color, has emblems and engravings, with numbers and names on parts. Special light weight alloy and quick release ft. wheel. Bought it new at a bicycle shop in Akron, Ohiofor about $400 in around 1980.
Sorry not very knowledgable about bicycles...just like to ride them and have a good ride. This one was easy for me to ride and pretty. Only used a few times due to being harrassed while out on it..scary
Got any idea as to what one of these bicycles go for? PLEASE?
looks like the PUCH BIKE for sale on craigslist.org/Rochester,NY
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:    PUCH PATHFINDER How much? posted by Gralyn on 6/11/2007 at 6:35:09 PM
I sold one on e-bay for about $50 about 3 or 4 years ago. I don't know what it would have cost new - but that was the name....Puch Pathfinder.....and it was from about 1980 judging by the components.
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AGE / VALUE:   Carlton "X" Chrome - addition posted by: Colin Miller on 6/8/2007 at 6:14:20 PM
A quick addition:
The full serial number is X2401 3007837.
Also, for some reason the tilda in the link to the pictures turned into a single quote mark when I pasted it in to the post. If you are having trouble with the link that is why.
http://home.comcast.net/'colinmil/carlton.html


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Carlton posted by David on 6/9/2007 at 9:12:58 AM
Tildes always turn into single quotes on this website. As for your rims, they must be either 700C or 27". You don't have a tire or another wheel to campare it to? Why not just toss one in your car and compare it to the first lightweight wheel you find parked on the street?
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AGE / VALUE:   Carlton "X" Chrome posted by: Colin Miller on 6/8/2007 at 5:49:28 PM
Hello,
I've been away from bikes for about 20 years and thought it would be nice to set up a light single speed to ride around the neighborhood. I've started putting together some parts for this. The frame is an old Carlton and I am hoping some of you know more about it than I do. My guess is that it is an International by looking at the lugs but do not know that for sure. It has wraparound seat stays, and shifter cable and headlight braze-ons. It is fully chrome. The front dropout slot is a little too small to fit the axle of the Campagnolo hub I tried on it. The serial number begins with an "X".
Here are some more detailed pictures:
http://home.comcast.net/'colinmil/carlton.html
Could anyone tell me what model I have and when and where it was made (I'm assuming not Worksop).

Bonus question: (easy if you haven't been away for 20 years) I also have some old Super Champion Gentleman Competition rims (in the pictures also). What size do they look like to you? At the moment they are they only wheels that I have and don't see any size markings on them.


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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Carlton posted by Giles Cattermole on 6/10/2007 at 4:57:36 PM
Hi colin,
I'm fairly certain that what you have is a Carlton 'Cobra'. It was the one full-chrome model in their range from the 1950's to the end in 1981. Technically, it's not special: high-carbon steel. It is probably designed for 27'' wheels (ETRTO 20-630), rather than the more modern 700C size (20-622). Value: probably not high. not because it's not a good bike, but because Raleigh debased the Carlton brand by putting out some very ordinary bikes under that name - particularly towards the end (and even after it!). But Carltons mostly ride well, and with the chrome in such good condition, it could look spectacular if properly built up. But NOT with those wheels! They're far too small; look like MTB wheels (25-559) to me.
To find which size wheels it's designed for, measure from the axle slot to the brake mounting bolt hole in either the fork crown or the rear brake bridge. Take away 50-60mm for the brake calipers' ''drop''; then about 7mm from the brake land to the spoke land on the rim: the result will then be HALF the ETRTO ''Effective Rim diameter''.
Hope this helps.

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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Carlton posted by Warren on 6/11/2007 at 1:29:44 PM
It looks like an early 60's Gran Sport, standard tubes, lamp bracket, wrap around stays etc. A nice 32/40 set of 27" Dunlop Special lightweights with Racelight hubs would be period correct but maybe Weinmann alloy's would work well. Or Super Champions in the same size..
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Carlton posted by Colin on 6/12/2007 at 6:03:27 AM
Thank you for the responses. The bike probably is a Cobra. Jerry from the Carlton website also said that. He dated it to 1966/67 so it's about as old as I am. I think I will get some 27" rims. Tire selection seems limited these days in that size but I only need to find one type that I like. Hopefully I can find some Super Champions or something comparable. I do want to keep it light. The frame weighs about 6 1/2 lbs. but I would still like to keep the bike at about 20 lbs. We'll see. Thanks again for the input. I'll try to post more pictures when I have things together.
Colin
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Carlton posted by Warren on 6/12/2007 at 11:27:08 AM
Trying to keep the bike under 25 lbs is a good goal. 20 is near impossible with a frame that heavy unless you spend big dough on hi zoot parts. And why do that?
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AGE / VALUE:   Vintage Mercier Graphics posted by: Ron on 6/8/2007 at 11:20:07 AM
I'm trying to restore an old classic Mercier 10 speed but the graphics are falling off. It's the fastest bike I've ever ridden. Does anyone have any pictures or know how I can tell the age of this fantastic ride? Please email me if anyone knows. Thank-you so much. My guess is that it's an early 1970's model.

This bike is 52cm, Stronglight Crank, Huret Gear Set, Weinmann Brakes, Mavic 700c wheels, Belleri Handlebar, Avocet Leather Seat. I can email pictures.
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           RE:AGE / VALUE:   Vintage Mercier Graphics posted by ken on 6/13/2007 at 11:35:14 AM
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/France/Mercier_main.htm
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           RE:AGE / VALUE: Vintage Mercier Graphics posted by Charles on 6/14/2007 at 5:48:53 PM
I just re-did a mid-80s vintage Mercier's graphics. Got them made at http://home.comcast.net/'velographic/VGengland.htm Mike did an AWESOME job
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           RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Vintage Mercier Graphics posted by Ron on 6/16/2007 at 6:09:30 PM
Thanks Ken....I'll check them out. I also found someone in Australia that might be able to help me too.
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MISC:   Raleigh Super Course posted by: Spike on 6/8/2007 at 6:54:30 AM
I have a Raleigh Super Course I think from the 70s number on the left rear drop out is 0035700 doesn't appear to be any letters.Has a large diameter seat tube an 80s Raleigh post snugs up but slot is comepletely closed.Any one know the proper size of the post and maybe the year of the bike?
Has alloy wheels,stem, handle bars and steel cottered crank from Stronglight Weight less seat and post seems a relatively light 28/29 lbs.
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           RE:MISC:   Raleigh Super Course posted by ronp6 on 6/8/2007 at 6:04:12 PM
Sheldon's site has Raleigh catalogs you can match your bike to and his post database has been helpful to me.

Try looking here http://sheldonbrown.com/seatpost-sizes.html
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