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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Monark posted by: Robynn on 10/11/2003 at 3:10:07 AM
I have an old Monark that I'd like to restore. I don't know much about the bike itself. I received it for free. I do know that it is single speed, with a rim size of 26x2.125. It has two fenders, and a light built into the frame near the fork. The light is turned on by a switch. It is a male frame.Could anyone tell me what year this bike was made and if it has any value. I have tried to look at any decals it may have and there are none.

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Monark posted by: Robynn on 10/11/2003 at 3:10:07 AM
I have an old Monark that I'd like to restore. I don't know much about the bike itself. I received it for free. I do know that it is single speed, with a rim size of 26x2.125. It has two fenders, and a light built into the frame near the fork. The light is turned on by a switch. Could anyone tell me what year this bike was made and if it has any value. I have tried to look at any decals it may have and there are none.

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   shelby posted by: Roadrash on 10/4/2003 at 3:42:31 PM
I worte earlyer that I found a shelby traveler.
On name plate it reads shelby tarveler
hercules cycles & motor Co Birmingham England.
The rear hub has stamped on it hercules cycles& motor Co
B type 4. Is it a good find?

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   shelby posted by: Roadrash on 10/4/2003 at 1:25:31 AM
I found shelby traveler I think it's called.
I like to know what year it is and how to start restoring it.

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   JC Higgins Mainliner posted by: BrittB on 10/1/2003 at 2:17:59 PM
I originally posted this in the Middle Weight section but I got no replies so I will repost it here.
I just picked up a JC Higgins 26" boy's bike called a Mainliner. It is mostly complete but needs total restoration. What I need to know is, where could I find more info out on this model and does anyone know where I might be able to find decals for the the head tube and tank. I do know that there is a girl's model of this bike posted in the photo section and it's listed as a Sears bike. Was it common for there not to be a Sears logo on these bikes? The only part of this bike that's not going to be able to be fixed is the chain guard as it looks like the crank wacked it long and hard so it's missing a small section so I need to locate a restorable correct one.
Thanks, Britt

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   What to Do posted by: luke woods on 9/29/2003 at 10:17:32 PM
I was just cleaning out my grage. Guess what I found. %4 Swhinn bikes. All are pre 1970. One even has a shock adsorber on the front wheel. What should I do?

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   What to Do posted by Nick on 10/1/2003 at 5:46:51 PM
Get a dumpster?

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   What to Do posted by James on 10/13/2003 at 3:18:12 AM
You really need to put more info. But from what the title says Paint all you need to do is take off most of the parts on the bike mask off what you dont want paint on and then wipe all the dirt off the bike and spray paint the frame wait a couple hours peel off masking tape..slowly then reassembly the bike and presto simple

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   What to Do posted by dan on 11/5/2003 at 3:40:08 PM
first thing you should do is nothing.. then try and locate each bikes serial number along with the model name and write a list of tire sizes, speeds, condition of frame, paint, fenders, tires etc the more information you have the better. Then there are plenty of siites,including this one thatyou can research your bikes. You can determine originality and approx value. Original paint i would not touch no matter what. If you go for a true restoration the painting and decal replacement would be the final steps anyways. I would only recommend this if the bike had already been molested and an attempt at novice restoration already was attempted. Certain schwinns bring up to $4,000 in unmolested mint condition and only 25% of that in real nice restorations of same bike. So live with a few scrathes rather than destroying the beauty of originality even if it appears "nicer"
Currently I am finding out that the bikes I get are "more fun" if the mechanics are working and the cosmetics are left as is. It actually gives the bike more character with some dirt on it, not as sterile. A quick rub down with a damp rag or windex will be enough in most cases. If you want a museum piece then do it right and don't try to restore it yourself and get quality. There are people who do this for a living not just a hobby. Ride the bike as is or sell it on ebay or here. Do whatever you want , it is yours, but I thought I would throw an opinion in there as well.

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   What to Do posted by freeda on 11/16/2003 at 7:33:50 PM
GO TO THE NEAREST POLICE STATION AND TURN YOURSELF IN.




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   What Kind of paint? posted by: Jess on 9/12/2003 at 8:49:35 PM
Hi Everyone,
I have an old Columbia from 1970, I'm not sure of the model name.

I am looking forward to restoring over this winter, this will be my first time retoring an old bike. I have a few questions, and an answer would be greatly appriciated.

What kind of pain is best to use?
Do I have to strip the bike before paint?
Is it considered wrong to paint a bike colors it did not come in?
Any other tips?
Thank you in advance!

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   What Kind of paint? posted by doug on 9/13/2003 at 11:15:32 AM
hi jess youve asked questions it would take several pages to answer....I reccommend getting a book on auto body painting techniques and types of paint Amazon.com has several good ones.this will explain in detail what your getting into.painting now a days can be very complex and hazardous to yer health if not done correctly.get a book....if you just want a spray can job results can be good with the right paint and preperation.changing colors means nothing unless you want it to look origional if the bike has any value probably doest have much might diminish it some.....get that book and go from there....good luck

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   What Kind of paint? posted by Titlist on 9/14/2003 at 6:38:03 PM
I got a book out of the library, it does address many of these issues, if one really wants to detail. Also, terms used in these pages that sometimes, one doesn't know from the start, ex. wetsanding .

It is called Paint & Body Handbook, by Don Taylor, Larry Hofer, our library number is 629.26 t ,




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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   First timer! posted by: Rick on 9/5/2003 at 1:34:24 PM
Just picked up an old Schwinn at a yard sale for $5, and have decided to give restoration a shot. How can I determine what year the bike is for purposes of ordering/searching for replacement parts? Thanks.

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   First timer! posted by Tommaso on 9/11/2003 at 2:19:08 PM
well, you might start telling us a bit about the bike, does it have a model name? you told us, the company. Is it a ten-speed, 3 speed? Does it still have the wheels, shifters, etc.?

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   First timer! posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 9/12/2003 at 7:16:23 PM
Tell us this:
What does it say on it? What does it say on the chainguard?
What size wheels?
Mens or ladies frame?
What color is this?
Is it missing any parts? Is this a balloon tire, 3 speed, or a kids bike?
The kids bikes could be Krates or Pickers or whatever and those are worth big money.
What type of bike is what I am asking?
Are the decals intact?
Any damage such as rust or scratches?

Often it is just recommended that you clean and get it back into a safe, ridable condition.
Then ride and use it or sell it and pocket the difference.
Then again, there are old Schwinns out there that are worthy for restoration. Any even you can find these if you are persistent.
It depends on the bike.
What model, what year and if it is rare or not.

Where you found this, Did they have other bikes? If so, tell us what else there was.
Perhaps you left the real prize there by mistake.
It happens.
Paramounts and Superiors are racing/ touring type bikes and the lightweight 10 speed style Schwinns are sought after and are worth more money than you would guess.

Listen, Schwinn went back 100 years or so. They were absolutely and without a doubt, incredible.
They bought up, took over and swallowed up other bicycle copmpanies and their factories and products.

Many magical things vanished into what was Schwinn.
Schwinn is a large subject with footnotes and things branch off from there.

Many different bike names are really Schwinns.

Go get the book by Pridemore and Hurd
Schwinn bicycles. It is a coffee table picture book.

Also, for all the dirt on the downfall and re- birth go get No hands, the rise and fall of the Schwinn bicycle Co.
by:
Judith Crown and Glenn Coleman

The interest in old Schwinns is incredible and you are at the right web site for help.
Ask us anything.

Furthermore, dispite all the interest in old Schwinns. I will say that I believe that the real goodies are still out there, undiscovered.

I'll bet that millions of dollars worth of spare and replacement parts are still out there in storage, in an old shop, with old grizzled codgers who have it squirreled away in barns or weherever.
Do not be intimidated, go and chase this stuff.
You would be surprised.

          RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   First timer! posted by Rick on 9/22/2003 at 8:45:41 PM
WOW !!! Thanks so much for the overwhelming response. You guys rock!
I have determined that the bike is a 1977 (was hoping for older, but hey it's my first) and have started stripping paint and filling dents...having a great time. I do, however, want to do 2 things to the bike. 1) replace the handlebars and neck...any suggestions of where to get parts? How to size the neck and bars? It's a 10 speed bike with bars that come out, curl up and back (not down and back like a more traditional 10-speed) and eventually run parallel to the frame, only way I can describe. I wanted to replace because the crome is so pitted and worn, also dented. Suggestions? Sellers? 2) I wanted to put slightly beefier tires on the bike. I believe they are 27'' tires and very narrow, 10-speed-like tires. I wanted to beef them up...think the fork will permit, but do I need wider rims or can I use the existing ones which I think are salvageable?
What product do you recommend for restoring chrome parts? Can I buy fender braces somewhere? How do I size them, from the tire size? What leather products will restore the very comfy Schwinn seat? Thanks!! -Rick

          RE:RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   First timer! posted by jungle jim on 9/23/2003 at 2:14:41 AM
go to your computer,go to e-bay,type in schwinn,grap something to drink & start looking your gonna be there for a while, sometimes you can get good deals.just try not to over bid if you think its not worth it,keep in mind shipping cost, i just picked up a brand new apple krate seat,with the shocks,sissy bar,clamps&hardware for 125.00....good luck




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   bondo? posted by: Steve on 9/2/2003 at 3:11:31 AM
what is the best way to take care of dents on something that is to be chromed? is it ok to chrome over regular autobody filler? I've used bondo on cars. or is there something better?

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   bondo? posted by Beth on 9/2/2003 at 7:34:03 AM
Hi,
As far as I know you cannot do actual electroplated chrome over bondo. Chroming requires the piece to become magnatized, and bondo can't do that. Hence you use a magnet to look for it on car bodies. If I read your question right, that the scoop. You might be able to literally bang the dents out. but I'd as someone more familiar with how to do it.
Hope this helps,
Beth

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   bondo? posted by steve on 9/3/2003 at 12:01:45 PM
these dents are actually on a fork, which makes it impossible to hammer out. I'm thinking of builing up the steel with a mig welder, then grinding/filing them down. I'm wondering if there's an easier way though. thanks for the help.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   bondo? posted by dan on 11/5/2003 at 3:16:12 PM
yeah building it up and grinding it will be fine, however i am assuming thatit may leave a few "holes", but if you have the patience to get it done thr right way then by all means go for it, or try and find replacement forks for less hasssle....bondo should be illegal...what bike has chrome forks?




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   bondo? posted by: Steve on 9/2/2003 at 3:11:31 AM
what is the best way to take care of dents on something that is to be chromed? is it ok to chrome over regular autobody filler? I've used bondo on cars. or is there something better?

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Sears 20 inch cruiser frame posted by: Ben on 9/1/2003 at 3:03:52 AM
I bought a 20 inch sears cruiser bike this summer at a yard sale for $3.50. It was painted black with a spray can. It had a blue tire on the front and BMX handlebars...rough lookin bike...Anyhow i took it home and stripped it all down. Sanded and sanded and sanded. Then i went and bought some Car primer and paint. There's more colors when u buy car paint! I picked a forest green metallic. I cant afford to re-crome so i just bought some look-a-like chrome paint. It was the same stuff as the forest green. It looks aaight.
I re-apolstered the seat with fake leather pants and painted white walls on the tires. (after finding a match to the black tire on back for the front...) After it was all done it looked aaight! I was just wondering if I should have clear coated the whole thing after i was done painting. You have to be reaaally carefull to not scratch the paint or it will show the primer underneith. Thanks! This is a cool site!

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Sears 20 inch cruiser frame posted by Dan on 9/1/2003 at 1:02:51 PM
Do you have a picture of the bike you could send to me because the bike I picture from this description sounds like crap.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Sears 20 inch cruiser frame posted by steve on 9/8/2003 at 4:47:27 AM
sounds like you're having fun with it, you can't go wrong for $3.50!! see what kind of cool parts you can find on other old bikes.

I hear what you're saying about chrome, it's friggin expensive!! sometimes you can get the old chrome looking pretty good with brass wool though (even if it's painted over!).

It's pretty amazing what some people consider crap too, you should see the 1971 cutlass musclebike I pulled out of a garbage bin last year, totally complete right down to the perfect seat, liscence plate, and hub shiner!! someone spray painted over most of the bike, but it comes off ok without taking the original finish off. keep having fun!!

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Sears 20 inch cruiser frame posted by dan on 11/5/2003 at 3:10:07 PM
i agree "fake whitewalls" paimted onto tires is crap... i have seen alot of bikes that people paint the rim and fake whitewalls onto. the paint will come off but you just give use more work than we really need to do.




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Cleaning without Damaging posted by: Beth on 8/30/2003 at 10:48:48 PM
Hi All,
I have an old bike I'm using for parts on a project. It is filthy, and desperately needs to be washed. The problem is on the fenders and chaingaurd, rust has caused the paint to bubble and flake. The finish is like having paint quills. Is there anyway to wash these parts, without further destroying or removing the paint? I don't need to actually polish any of it.
Thanks,
Beth

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Cleaning without Damaging posted by Dan on 9/1/2003 at 1:04:52 PM
I reccomend using a light detergent, maybe 1/2 cup of ammonia in about a half gallon of water. Or even try using some Murphy's Oil Soap, that is a wonderful cleaner. Good Luck




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Restoration shops for classic frame posted by: Ian Baren on 8/27/2003 at 3:08:41 PM
I am planning a full restoration of a ca.1979 Wester Ross Road Frame,
and am hoping to get some feedback, experience or advice on paint
shops that I have found on the web. I really like this bike, and only
want to do this once. I will be getting the decals and logos from the
origional maker, so its really just the quality / value of paint and
prep as well as the application of decals that I am interested in. The
frame also has some minor-medium rust, especially on the BB.

The shops I have looked at an am considering are: Joe Bell, Cycles
D'Oro, Chris Kvale, Pfieffer Pframes, Cycle Art, KoolBikes,
Freshframes and Airglow.Suggestions of other I have not found also
much welcomed......

Any input or advice or compliments or warnings are most appreciated.
I'd also like to hear from anyone else with a Wester Ross (Lock Ewe
Cycles) frame.

Thanks

Ian Baren

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RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   Straighten Wooden Wheels posted by: Mike Patterson on 8/18/2003 at 10:33:36 PM
Just purchased 2 old wooden rims for my bike and one of them has been missing a spoke for a ong time and has an abrupt and deep ( in it. Is there a good way of straightening the rim ? Thanks

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Broken stem bolt posted by: Vern on 8/16/2003 at 7:25:09 PM
I am trying to take the stem off of 63 Schwinn hollywood.The stem bolt broke and I am out of ideas on how to remove.I've tried pene trating oil but has not helped.Anybody have a better plan?Thanks

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Broken stem bolt posted by JimW. on 8/17/2003 at 12:32:58 AM
If only the head of the bolt is broken off, place a punch against the shaft of the bolt, and smack it with a hammer. This will break the wedge section loose from the stem, letting you remove both. If the bolt has broken off deep inside, just stick another bolt of similar size in there, and smack its head, to do the same thing.

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Broken stem bolt posted by Vern on 9/1/2003 at 2:06:08 PM
Thanks! I tried what you said and it worked!

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