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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Mounting a Straight Bar Tank posted by: Matt on 10/20/2002 at 3:00:07 AM
I have a straight bar panther and am putting a new tank on it, but am unclear how it attaches to the lower tube. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.


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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   painting flames on my tank myself posted by: isaac ray on 10/14/2002 at 9:03:15 AM
can anyone tell me a step by step method of painting flames on the tank of my bike myself. ive tried but never comes out the way i want it to. do i lay down a stencil with thin tape directly on the tank? i need help. i really would ike to complete this project myself. anyone out there can help me, i would appreciate it very much.

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   painting flames on my tank myself posted by a friend on 10/14/2002 at 3:00:32 PM
Isaac Ray, Go to Recumbents, and Lowrider, Customs here on Old Rodes. Thers a post on flame work.

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT: painting flames on my tank myself posted by isaac ray on 10/16/2002 at 3:58:35 PM
thanks for the info. very much appreciated.

          RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT: painting flames on my tank myself posted by a friend on 10/17/2002 at 6:30:15 PM
Issac, I don't know if you got started doing your flame layout yet, but go to bikerodnkustom web site you can find it in the bicycle links here on Old Rodes. When you enter the BR&K site, look for a young man by the name Andrew Deltoro click on him and check out how you bagg a frame and see how the layout looks like before paint is applied. This might be of some help.

          RE:RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT: painting flames on my tank myself posted by isaac ray on 10/17/2002 at 8:11:12 PM
no i havent started yet. just waiting for some more advice.
i really want to do this bicycle the right way. i will check
out that sight. thanks for the help. very much appreciated.




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Painting Chrome posted by: Jimbo jones on 10/7/2002 at 4:57:10 AM
I was thinking about painting my new chrome fenders. Is it really possible to sand them enough to get the paint to stick ?

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Painting Chrome posted by a friend on 10/12/2002 at 1:44:07 AM
Mr. Jimbo Jones, "Yes too painting your chrome fenders". Why not, I have. Not once, but several bikes in the past. When I prep fenders that are chrome I use a D.A sander. I rough them up with 80 grit sandpaper. Then I follow up with 220 dry sandpaper really well. If there is shine, the rule is to remove it, or loose bite from your primer coat. "So do it right the first time"! Take your time doing it. The better the prep JOB, the better your primer will bite into the surface. I take preperation very serious, for the simple reason when i'm going to flame the fenders, and i'm doing a flame layout; I don't need my primer or paint lifting off when removing the tape. Make sure when your done you wash your hands from any kind of grease or oils! Never use a contaminated ragg. Use some laquer thinner and wipe down your fenders really well, then primer. Make sure you do the under sides aswell for extra insurance. "Have fun Mr. Jones".

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Painting Chrome posted by MNSmith on 10/12/2002 at 1:51:15 AM
A Friend is correct. Think in Schwinn Phantom terms. That tank had to be chromed before the painted sections were done!

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Painting Chrome posted by Jimbo Jones on 10/12/2002 at 9:18:42 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Will do!




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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Pitted Chrome Fork posted by: Patrick Lavery on 10/6/2002 at 3:30:26 PM
My Gitane has a half chromed fork which is quite pitted with rust. What's the best way to restore it ?

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Coaster brake service posted by: Mike P. on 10/5/2002 at 4:01:25 PM
Hi there. This looks like a helpful group, so...

Someone gave us an old bike, the kind we used to ride back in the 50's. Balloon tires, big steel fenders, single speed, etc. I don't know what age or make it is (all plates and decals are missing or painted over).

My daughter thinks it's the coolest and wants to use it at college. But, the single rear coaster brake doesn't really work well enough to make it safe to ride.

I've never had a bike apart before but am pretty handy. I took the hub apart and discovered that it's an expanding type brake operated by a worm (fascinating - I never knew how they worked before!). I cleaned up all the parts and regreased everything, and cleaned up the brake shoes and inside of the drum (hub). I figure maybe there was some grease residue on the shoes causing them to slip.

But, it doesn't work any better. The two shoes look like bronze or brass and are slotted parallel with the axle. The hub, of course, is steel.

Can anyone tell me what I'm missing here? Was there some sort of fiber lining on the shoes that's completely worn away? Or what? I was thinking of roughing-up the shoes and/or drum with emery cloth, but wanted to check with you guys before I ruined it further.

Any ideas?

Thank,

Mike

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Coaster brake service posted by MNSmith on 10/7/2002 at 4:18:24 AM
Nope, it sounds like it's just plain worn out. I'm not sure if you can find some new shoes anywhere. You might find a newer hub to gut.

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          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Coaster brake service posted by Mike on 10/7/2002 at 9:13:04 PM
Hmmm...thanks for the info. So the shoes just aren't thick enough?

I think I'm gonna see if I can shim the the _insides_ of the shoes to get them out where they belong, maybe get better action that way.

Thaks again.

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Coaster brake service posted by Dave on 10/26/2002 at 4:26:08 AM
When we would service older hubs we would literally rough them up on the outside edge (as you thought you might do) The problem you will run into if you try to replace them is that bendix started using 4 smaller shoes instead of 2 like you have in order to reduce the distance the rider had to back pedal to engauge the brakes. The four newer pads should work if you can find them (newer is a relative term circa mid 70's) I would not however recommend any kind of a shim.




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Repainting a New Bike posted by: Jim McPherson on 10/1/2002 at 9:06:22 PM
I just bought a new mountain bike and I wanted to repaint it imyself in a matte grey finish, covering decals, logos and everything. Is this easily done? Where do I find the paint I'm looking for?
Thanks

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Repainting a New Bike posted by JimW. on 10/3/2002 at 2:54:10 AM
If the frame's markings are on vinyl stickers, they will show pretty obviously under the paint. Best to peel them off, then remove adhesive residue with Goo-Gone or a solvent. Decal markings also may show through, but not as much. Matte grey paint is usually called primer. Dupli-color has a light grey primer in spray cans. They also have dark grey "hot rod" primer. Krylon has a medium grey primer.
All of them work pretty well. It will stick best if you rub down the original paint job with an abrasive scrubbing pad, an abrasive cleanser, or steel wool. People here scream when you mention steel wool, and bronze wool is actually best for the job, but you need to clean off the wool residure before painting anyway, no matter what sort of wool you use. After you get an even coat of matte primer on the frame, you may want to protect the finish. Krylon makes a semi-flat clearcoat spray which gives a nice dull finish on whatever you spray it on. This surface will be harder than the primer surface, and will resist chipping and scratching better than the primer alone. You could also spray the semi-flat clearcoat over a normal shiny finish grey,enamel, but it will not look as flat as when sprayed over primer. Good luck with it.

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Repainting a New Bike posted by Jim on 10/4/2002 at 2:29:37 PM
Thanks very much. Now I can't wait to get started!




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Painting Mag Wheels posted by: Adam Vincent on 10/1/2002 at 6:12:37 PM
What's the best way to go about re painting plastic / graphite / composite etc. mag wheels?

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Painting Mag Wheels posted by lowriderbike master on 10/2/2002 at 3:52:11 AM
um ok check it out me and a friend was bored so we painted his 5 star mags first take out the berings axel and guts sand lightly then primer paint a secret to get this colored shadow is to paint crevesests holes dips agood soled color after primer then paint one coat of a very light color or white but not the same color we did blue shadow white top coat

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Painting Mag Wheels posted by lowriderbike master on 10/2/2002 at 3:55:00 AM
um ok check it out me and a friend was bored so we painted his 5 star mags first take out the berings axel and guts sand lightly then primer paint a secret to get this colored shadow is to paint crevesests holes dips agood soled color after primer then paint one coat of a very light color or white but not the same color we did blue shadow white top coat




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Best Type of Paint posted by: Tom on 9/26/2002 at 7:12:56 PM
Whats the best type of paint to use when repainting an old Schwinn?

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Best Type of Paint posted by a friend on 9/29/2002 at 8:24:30 PM
Tom, remove the fork from your frame. You will see the original color on the stem. Take the fork with you too your nearest automotive paint supplier; now thats if you have a compressor and spray gun. Lets say you don't; well buy yourself a couple of rattle cans of the nearest color you can find and hope for the best.

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Best Type of Paint posted by Jeff R on 10/1/2002 at 1:54:07 AM
A good automotive paint store can match the color and put the paint in a spray can. I have had this done a couple of times and the result has been very satisfactory




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   how to fix up my bike posted by: damon growl on 9/23/2002 at 7:33:44 PM
Hello,
I just purchased a late 70's raleigh, and it is a little bit rusty under the bottom bracket, i would like to get rid of that and add some paint to cover it up. anyone have any ideas or advice on what i should do without having to take the whole bike apart and send it to the painters.

thanks for any info,

damon

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   how to fix up my bike posted by james on 9/28/2002 at 5:39:55 PM
what you should probly do is get an sander like they use on cars and use it to get it off but if its not that bad use some steel wool on it then sand primer fill in primer wet sand primer paint




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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   upolstery posted by: james on 9/20/2002 at 8:58:33 PM
ineeeeed help i need 2 re do the vinal on my bannana seat on my 76?¿ shwinn sting ray lowrider bike i got the pans separated but a need vinal and any tips any one has e-mail me or whattever you have 2 do plezz help

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Clear Coat & Decals posted by: Mike on 9/16/2002 at 10:52:14 PM
I'm working on a Schwinn cruiser and need to repaint the frame. I have a new decal set for the restoration. What I need to know is whether the decals should go on before or after the last clearcoat.

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Clear Coat & Decals posted by robert on 9/19/2002 at 10:07:54 AM
i would do it before the last coat of clear to assure your new decals will not lift or peel. it will also help prevent fading of the stickers. is up to the owner though!




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Paint A Saddle posted by: Andrus on 9/15/2002 at 2:49:13 PM
Any chance, one may paint a saddle? How would one approach this? If one wished to paint a black saddle another color, like red or blue? Leather or other materials matter?

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Paint A Saddle posted by Steve Vang on 9/16/2002 at 1:57:39 AM
I believe, one can paint a vinyl, spray paint, the trick is is to remember the sealant. I am not sure, how well, a seat would be sealed, as opposed to other things, I have done this with.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Paint A Saddle posted by sam on 9/17/2002 at 12:56:43 AM
Big difference in painting difference materals!A leather seat may have oils that the paint will not stick to.You can buy vinyl paint(sew brand)that they use to paint vinyl dashboards for cars--talk to a car restorer.For leather talk to a shoe repair guy or leather shop.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Paint A Saddle posted by Ron on 9/19/2002 at 2:00:09 PM
I was in the hardware store the other day, and they had a vinyl paint for car interiors. I think it was Krylon brand.




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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   handlebar stem posted by: Dave on 9/14/2002 at 8:22:56 AM
I am trying to remove the handlebar stem from a bicycle.The stem bolt came out but even after weeks of WD-40 the wedge will not move. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   handlebar stem posted by MNSmith on 9/14/2002 at 8:40:52 PM
Is there a bolt hole on the underside for mounting a fender?

www.bunchobikes.com

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   handlebar stem posted by Dave on 9/15/2002 at 10:38:07 PM
Yes,there is a hole for the fender screw underneath.

          RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   handlebar stem posted by MNSmith on 9/16/2002 at 12:42:43 AM
Find a long thin rod that fits in the hole and tap the wedge out from underneath.

www.bunchobikes.com

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   handlebar stem posted by Dave on 9/20/2002 at 10:14:26 AM
Wouldn't hitting the wedge from underneath jam it furthur into the stem?

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   handlebar stem posted by MNSmith on 9/26/2002 at 9:04:31 AM
Nope, the way the wedge went in is from the top. That's the way you want it to come out. You want to hit the wedge from the underside, not top side.

          RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   handlebar stem posted by Dave on 10/1/2002 at 8:42:52 AM
The wedge did finally come out. Thank you for the help.

          RE:RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   handlebar stem posted by Hound on 10/8/2002 at 1:32:33 AM
I love happy endings! :-)




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Raleigh, All steel bicycle, 3 speed, Help!! posted by: Jason on 9/12/2002 at 7:56:58 PM
I am restoring a Raleigh, all steel, 3 speed which i believe to be about 1955. I can trace it back through its owners to the original buyer!!.The bike is complete, but i have have had to replace the handelbar gear lever+cable and the front and back dynamo powered light as they were missing, these i have bought for next to nothing off of scrap bikes at my local sale ground, everything else is original down to the last nut (by the way i am from East Anglia, England)
But, does anyone have help/advive or even pictures that will enable me to fit these two things correctly so as they are working and hopefully in keeping with the original look as closely as possible.
Cheers
Jason.

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Raleigh, All steel bicycle, 3 speed, Help!! posted by Jason on 9/12/2002 at 8:23:43 PM
Me again!!
Also is there anywhere that i can get replacement transfers for the same bike (raleigh,all steel,3 speed)
Jason...

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Raleigh, All steel bicycle, 3 speed, Help!! posted by sam on 9/12/2002 at 11:07:34 PM
Go to the "english roadester" group at this site and ask those questions and P.C. ,Christopher,Goff,or Ian I'm sure will be able to give you the correct answer.Even the link to Nick at loyds for the transfers




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Brooks Saddle.... posted by: Fred A on 9/4/2002 at 3:18:01 PM
Okay.....any ideas on how to remove a moldy smell from an old Brooks leather saddle? I've tried conditioners, etc. and it still stinks. It's in terrific shape, but I'll toss it before I sit on with this odor.

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          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Brooks Saddle.... posted by Fred A on 9/4/2002 at 3:24:28 PM
Forget to mention it was on an old Schwinn that I bought that was sitting for years in a damp garage.

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Brooks Saddle.... posted by A Fr iend on 9/5/2002 at 7:11:11 PM
I got the info you need, I read you already took different approches on the cleaning of the seat. I recomend using Three Flowers butch wax. You know the stuff you put on your hair after the Barber cuts your freshly Crew Cut, or Flat top. Depending how old you are, you would either remember or not. It leaves a nice manly fragrance. Once you do that, leave it out in the sun so the butch wax pentatriates the leather well. If in dought, put the seat too your face and smell it, and apply or repeat as necsessary. Then buff with a nice clean rag too remove any excess.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Brooks Saddle.... posted by mike on 9/12/2002 at 7:02:50 PM
Or you could just sell it to me. I offer 80 and i'll pay shipping.

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Brooks Saddle.... posted by Fred A on 9/16/2002 at 6:51:32 PM
Hi Mike.......

I just emailed you. If you want to buy the saddle it's yours.

Fred A

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