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RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   fairlady fender vs. stingray fender etc. posted by: Vivid Michaels on 10/13/2001 at 7:08:38 AM
I just bought a schwinn fairlady from ebay (which was unsurprisingly nothing like it was described) it needs a lot of rust work (which wont be hard) and some new parts. I was wondering what is the basic difference between a fairlady and stingray- especially the fender. I'm finding tons of restoration items for basic stingrays, but not many fairlady specific items. any help will be appreciated.


          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   fairlady fender vs. stingray fender etc. posted by Cal on 10/15/2001 at 2:19:42 PM
You might want to ask under the musclebikw topic. There are a lot of sting-ray experts over there.

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Thinks "a Friend" posted by: sam on 10/12/2001 at 1:05:04 AM
Did just like you said,a-friend.That mylar sheet cut real nice.Sure added a nice touch to the murry springer with a tank .Painted the bike red did the tank and guard in white.Then cut coca-cola from the mylar and put on the tank taped and painted red.When the masking came off everone liked the old bike! Cool Coca-cola cruzer.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Thinks posted by A friend on 10/13/2001 at 8:56:21 PM
Sam, I am happy too read that the mylar worked for you. From where I sit you did everything right. I bet you can hardly wait to find an excuse to do it again. Just grab chain gaurds and add personal sayings to your liking. Its good too stay in practice with o'l chaingaurds lying around.

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Thinks posted by sam on 10/15/2001 at 4:40:07 AM
Got a pre war 20 (roadmaster maybe)and just can't wait to mask it with the mylar!

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RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   Strummy-Archer TCW posted by: Johnny on 10/8/2001 at 3:50:17 PM
I have a Strummy-Archer TCW. My repair book has a exploded view/instructions for Strummy-Archer TCW III. My hub doesn't seem to match? Do I have an older model. Any suggestions?

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   Strummy-Archer TCW posted by Robert on 10/10/2001 at 3:20:19 PM
Yes, the TCW is older. It was modified several time to attempt to correct a problem with the brake not operating properly in certain situations. My understanding is that this was never completely accomplished. So they came out with a new design of coaster brake.

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   81 stingray posted by: John Malone on 10/8/2001 at 1:21:38 PM
I recently asked for help identifying an 81 stingray and some-one replied is it a srambler.Well I would'nt know,what does a scrambler look like and is there anybody out there that could tell by the serial numbers? Come on bicycle experts I know you are out there I can hear you breathing. Thanks John.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   81 stingray posted by sam on 10/8/2001 at 7:14:22 PM
the serial #s will not tell the model.does it have a chain guard?The early scramlers were just a dressed up ray.some came with specal forks-stem & crank.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   81 stingray posted by A friend on 10/13/2001 at 9:03:18 PM
You might want to look behind the seat post. Which are the top bars, they take a different shape. Almost a tapered look. Like the bars are closer together than your earlier Sting - Ray frames. If I am wrong, Please correct me so I know for certian aswell. Thanks.

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RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   cleaning gum wall tires posted by: Gralyn on 10/4/2001 at 3:21:24 PM
What is the best way to clean gum wall tires? I bought a bike with good tires - but the gum wall has some blackened areas on it - I think where the tires were flat - and sat somewhere....that area of the tire is blackened. Can this be cleaned? If so, with what method?

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   cleaning gum wall tires posted by Gralyn on 10/11/2001 at 6:17:11 PM
Well, I've tried just about everything I can think of - and nothing seems to be getting it clean! Maybe I'll just keep trying....the tires are practically new!

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   cleaning gum wall tires posted by A friend on 10/14/2001 at 5:33:55 PM
Have you tried oven cleaner? Lets say you havn't for now. "Remove the tire from the rim if you have aluminium rims." The acid in the cleaner will turn the rim black. Lets say you have chrome rims, don't sweat it. Just spin the rim on the bike slowly!" With the oven cleaner, "spray directly on the side wall about 1" from the gum wall. After 2mins, rince off good! Repeat as necssary. Help it out with a SOS pad, or brissel brush. Rince again. Once your done apply some armoral, or some other name brand tire conditioner. Best of luck too you.

          RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   cleaning gum wall tires posted by stacey on 10/15/2001 at 2:04:43 AM
Do not... I repeat DO NOT use Armor-all on your tires. If you do, you WILL fall down the first time you lean the bike over! Just as Armor-All makes you the dashboard & seats in your car slippery, so too will it your tires. Gods forbid you get caught in the rain... a disaster waiting to happen.

In the wind, and still picking gravel out of my A$$!

          RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   cleaning gum wall tires posted by Gralyn on 10/16/2001 at 4:37:23 PM
Thanks. I will try the oven cleaner. (Actually I haven't tried that yet....so, I had not tried everything)

          RE:RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   cleaning gum wall tires posted by A friend on 10/18/2001 at 4:22:12 PM
You what guy's, Stacey is right. Excuse me for my mislesding info. Only tried to get across a nutralizing solution fellowing the oven cleaner. Try some dish washing liquid, and rince real good! As for Stacey's accident I hope your bottom end a speedy recovery. Thanks for your support.

          RE:RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   cleaning gum wall tires posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 12/10/2001 at 2:25:35 PM
Armor All on bicycle tires, a definite No- No! Oh My!
This is as bad as the black ice post, with the same horrible ending! Another shudder!
When, out of nowhere, I appear and scoop Stacy up and set her down in the Watsonian bicycle side- car with her bike on the back and take her to the sports injury place.
As she regains consciousness, she asks "What did this cool contraption cost you?
I like to think that everybody here would stop to help Stacy after she armorall-ed her bike tires. Sometimes this site is not for the faint hearted like myself. I guess I remember too vividly those bad monents awheel, I read something and shudder!
Gravel is a very real and painful problem and you can really seriously injure yourself while cycling.

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   81 stingray posted by: John Malone on 9/29/2001 at 1:16:35 PM
I have a stingray with # MR626505 head badge # 1801.The frame stay or fender mount on rear of bike is different than older style stingrays also sprcket is niether lucky 7 or mag, this one has the 4 large hole style.Both front and rear tires are 2.125 www knobbies marked Schwinn stig ray, and front hub is black scrambler style.Local Schwinn shop owner said this may be one of the last Stigray style bikes before the BMX transition,and may have came out with low rise bars and BMX seat.Please help.Thanks for listening.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   81 stingray posted by Jeff on 10/2/2001 at 6:56:02 PM
Is it a Tornado? A Scrambler?

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Stingray Pedal Removal posted by: Nelson on 9/13/2001 at 10:28:59 AM
Hey, i'm trying to remove the pedals from my stingray.
How am i suppose to get the pedals out of the cranks?
Do they unscrew or do you "knock" them out? Can they be removed
without a special tool? Any help would be greatly appreciated

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Stingray Pedal Removal posted by steve on 10/2/2001 at 8:32:46 PM
Use a thin 9/16 wrench. I ground an old one down just for pedal removal. It always helps to spray the crank and threads with WD-40 and let is soak for a day or two.

Remember, bicycles pedals have reverse threads.

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Stingray Pedal Removal posted by Wings on 10/5/2001 at 5:26:19 AM
Reverse threads on pedals = Always turn the wrench toward the back wheel when you are removing pedals. In other words when you lean over the bike apply force on the wrench so the force is pushing towards the rear wheel. It may help to put a pipe over the wrench to get more leverage.

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   i need custom wheels for my stingray posted by: chastin on 9/11/2001 at 4:52:00 PM
i need custom wheels for my stingray that ive made into a chopper,ive been looking for some, i would like to have a website or pictures ,please help me.


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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Raleigh Sports Fork Trim posted by: Dick Sadler on 9/9/2001 at 8:48:12 AM
Does anyone know how to safely remove the two aluminum trim "cups" that are either pressed or glued into each side of fork on Raleigh Sports? Or maybe the question is do these have to be removed for painting, or would I be better off leaving them in and having them masked off somehow? Also interested in chatting with anyone with Raleigh Sports restoration. Thanks.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Raleigh Sports Fork Trim posted by sam on 9/9/2001 at 6:58:47 PM
Dick,so far no one has come up with a good way to get the cups out,and they are not available.tape to paint.

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Raleigh Sports Fork Trim posted by Edward in Vancouver on 10/7/2001 at 4:14:14 PM
While restoring my Raleigh Superbe, I came across this following method to remove the stainless steel cups.
Remove the fork from the frame, and pop the fork into a warm (150 F)oven for about a half an hour. Remove the fork
and drop an icecube in the cup. With a putty knife or similiar, pry out the cup.

          RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Raleigh Sports Fork Trim posted by Stacey on 10/10/2001 at 12:35:14 AM
Wow! What a great idea Edward! We used the same general principle to install bearings in the transmissions on BMW motorcycles years ago when my two wheels had a motor on them. I'm surprised I didn't come up with that as a solution. Keep 'em coming!

In the wind,

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Chainwheel question posted by: Bev on 9/8/2001 at 1:53:18 PM
I know nothing about old bikes, but I found my old childhood bike in my Dad's barn. I want to fix it, but the chainwheel only has 24 sprockets (don't know if that is what they are called, so I can't find a chain to work with it. What do I do?

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Chainwheel question posted by goob on 9/8/2001 at 3:16:46 PM
try memory lane for a chain.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Chainwheel question posted by sam on 9/8/2001 at 8:20:57 PM
What you have is a skip tooth bike.Is the old chain still on the bike?If so try to save it while you do the resto/cleaning - seeing if it still rides thing.I say to try and save it because skip tooth chains cost a lot($50 new)might find one a little cheaper but still not like a regular chain that you can get new for under$10.On the other hand sounds like a good bike to restore.and the sprocket is a 1 inch pitch(skip tooth)--sam

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Chainwheel question posted by Bev on 9/9/2001 at 10:47:12 AM
Thanks for the information. I don't have the old chain, but know where to possibly look for it. Will also inquire at memory lane.

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   i want to hear your cleverest restro tips posted by: todjob on 9/7/2001 at 8:53:50 PM
like what to do with rounded bolt heads or screwed up threads or straightening forks,i'll go first,i found out on old grips to remove them find a pot to boil water in that the grip will fit into still on the handle bars boil for 5 min. and then pull it out and put it in ice cold water in the sink for a second or two heat shrinks cold expands (i.e. the unopened pepsi in the freezer) just like boiling eggs the grip will expand away from the handle bars and will twist off i saved an old brittle set of coke grips that way


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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Single Tube Tire Installation posted by: Randy on 9/7/2001 at 7:37:32 PM
Does anyone know of any on-line information regarding single tube tires, and methods of adhering to the rim?

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Single Tube Tire Installation posted by sam on 9/7/2001 at 8:23:45 PM
Randy,Don't know of a web site but Harper Machine Shop , Dunbar west Va. sells the tires their phone is 1-304-768-1147.these tires cement(glue)on.In some old books they are refered to as high pressure cement on tires--a good local bike shop might know about todays glue on tires--might be the same process or at least you might get some insite.I'd ask.--sam

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Single Tube Tire Installation posted by JOEL on 9/10/2001 at 9:38:45 AM
I haven't done this myself but have been told to use the cement that is currently avalable at bike shops for glue on tubular tires.

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Rust and faded leather seats posted by: cindy on 9/2/2001 at 2:30:22 AM
I learned this trick in my motorcycle business from an ol" smoothie. Aluminum foil cleans the rust off of chrome so good that you will think it is magic. When I demo this trick on my motorcycles I spray the effected chrome and hand the piece of foil to the customer to rub on the rim. It comes off so fast and shines so well sometimes you get the Tom Sawyer Bonus. What is that you ask? Remember him white washing the fence? Also, on leather seats that are so dried out they look like dyed cardboard I use Alberto VO5 and condition the seats. Sometimes I use shoe dye mixed with VO5. It works, after all it works on hair and it is related to skin, right. Another bonus with the foil is that it is cheap, and on real chrome it won't scratch because it is softer that the chrome. Also you can roll it to fit between the spokes. If there is pitting, the foil will fill in the pits and a little wax will cement the temporary fix. I don't know how many motorcycles or bicycles I own, but I have a scad of them. I just got a fine Schwinn Continental orange or gold in color. What nice hardware. It feels like a real part. The sprocket housing, the levers, very light weight, gum rubber very thin tires, no valve caps what was this bike?

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Rust and faded leather seats posted by Doug on 9/2/2001 at 5:46:09 AM
Hi Cindy the Schwinn Continental was a higher end tour type bike a very nice well built bike.by the way what do you spray the chrome with before using the foil? thanks for a reply.Doug

          RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Rust and faded leather seats posted by cindy on 9/7/2001 at 12:08:05 AM
Doug, as long as you have some sort of liquid between the two metals it works. I use a cleaner made by Coors Beer called BIOt,WD40, and Dawn dishwashing liquid. Have you tried the foil trick yet? Being a girl, trying this trick can sell alot of cleaner, but honestly it is the foil. I hope that you have the good luck I do with it. Thanks for responding.

          RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Rust and faded leather seats posted by Doug on 9/7/2001 at 4:37:03 AM
Hi Cindy I will be trying it soon you may want to post this tip on the middleweight discussion area too as a lot of folks are restoring old bikes on there Thanks for the info.

          RE:RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Rust and faded leather seats posted by Phil on 9/7/2001 at 5:16:43 AM
I've never had any luck with foil.
Watch out with WD-40, it can ruin paint and decals.

          RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   Rust and faded leather seats posted by Cindy DMN on 9/11/2001 at 10:16:03 PM
Phil, forgive me for not replying sooner. I am new to this but, I am a fast learner. You are absolutely right about WD40 ruining your decals. If not wiped off immediately it can streak paint as well. Thanks for the reminder,

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   paint stencils posted by: sam on 8/27/2001 at 12:59:43 PM
A Frend posted on making paint stencils from mylar sometime back.Was wonderin if he (or others)might expand on that post.Where to buy,what tools are needed,and can you cut names& finder tip patterns?If so how to copy onto the mylar the pattern needed.How to apply the stencil for painting?Maybe I need a book or coarce on this!---sam

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   paint stencils posted by A friend on 9/5/2001 at 6:01:32 PM
Hi Sam, About the mylar; I bought it at a place called S&H plastics. I'm very certin, you don't have this store in your area. People who draw signs, and letter painters go too places like this. As for the drawing part of it all; I use a black thin tip magic marker for my writing of the letters. I also use 3/4in masking tape too lay down as a guild for my letters. This way they are straight and even. Then the hard part, you need a very sharp exacto knife. Now if you have a steady hand, because I don't, cut out your pattern ever so carefully! Once you mess up, you start all over again. Take your time, and good luck too you.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   paint stencils posted by sam on 9/7/2001 at 8:29:43 PM
Thinks Friend,there is a Plastics supply near that I've bought from--I'll check with them first.

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:   paint stencils posted by steve on 10/2/2001 at 8:46:21 PM
I use drawing tools to help guild my exacto blade -- the kind architects and engineers used before computers. Use french curves, ships curves, circle templates, straight edges, etc. The end result is much more precise than the ol' freehand method.

If you have access to a computer and know how to use a drawing program such as Illustator, there is a better way. You can scan the original work, clean it up in Photoshop and re-draw in Illustrator. Send the electronic file to a vinyl sign cutter and let them output on what ever kind of mask you want.

I've done dozens of paint masks with both methods with equal results. The newer computer method saves a little time -- and it can be repeated again and again and the touch of a button.

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Decal Removal posted by: Dick on 8/23/2001 at 7:14:01 PM
How can I remove "old,worn,faded,stickers from the painted (chain guard)and chrome (fender) surfaces on my bike? Soap and water maybe?

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Decal Removal posted by Cal on 8/24/2001 at 6:19:27 AM
Nail polish remover works great.

(You're welcome...!)

          RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Decal Removal posted by todjob on 9/7/2001 at 6:56:48 PM
i use ronson lighter fluid in the yellow/blue plastic bottle its stronger than nail polish and goo gone but dosent hurt the paint soak it and let it set and thumb nail it off

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