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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:My NOS Whitewall Tires won't fit posted by: Mike on 1/15/2000 at 1:37:16 PM
I booght a set of NOS whitewall tires but they seem to have shrunk slightly over the years and won't go on (they are the correct size). I tried using a hairdryer to soften the rubber but that didn't work. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Mike

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   My NOS Whitewall Tires won't fit posted by PW on 1/17/2000 at 6:04:48 AM
Are you trying to put Schwinn tires on a non-Schwinn wheel?
Or visa-versa? Some wheels and tires are not standard
(Schwinn and CCM for example). Take a look at the "Tire and
Rim Chart" in the "General Resources" section of this web site.




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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Pierce "Three in Hand" posted by: Sean on 1/13/2000 at 4:45:30 PM
Hey all,

I have a Pierce built for three in my basement. Needs handlebars, Wheels and chain from the rear crank to the wheel. Anybody got any parts sources? (The bike was upside down in a basement of a relative for about 50 years, and the bars took a beating. The fram is is great shape, I still have the seats, and the pant clips are with the machine. I also have pics of my mom's grandfather and his pals on the bike.

any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Sean

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Pierce posted by Sean on 1/13/2000 at 4:51:37 PM
Forgot to mention, the bike is from 1905 latest. My grandmother says so.
I'm going to work on posting the pics.
Peace,
Sean

RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Pierce posted by JC on 1/14/2000 at 5:49:39 AM
Can't help with parts, but please scan some pictures.
A lot of us would love to see that bike. Hey, maybe
Moe, Larry and Curly rode it?

There are a couple ways to put a picture up on menotomy's
site here. Either using the 'upload your picture' link, or
build a little web site devoted to the Pierce using menotomy's
"Readers Web sites" section.

RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Pierce posted by Brian on 3/12/2000 at 4:05:10 PM
Best source of information I know of for Pierce bicycles is http://www.pedalinghistory.com/ Pedaling History Bicycle Museum in Orchard Park, N.Y. A great place to visit!

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Pierce posted by Sean on 5/2/2001 at 9:23:16 AM
I finally got a scanner and will work on posting the pics. I've worked on cleaning the bike (carefully) and found that it's in great shape.




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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:tell me how it all started posted by: Kim on 1/2/2000 at 2:29:57 PM
Hi my name is Kim. i am 16 and race for Abf Racing in Illinois. I have to do a report for my speech class and present it and i pick my most favorite sport to do it on bmx raicng i was wondering if anyone can help me get some information about when and how bmx started i know most of it but not the exact dates and details and my teacher needs sources not my own knowledge so i was wondering if anyone can help me and email me websites that have true facts about bmx or if you can tell me about it??? Thanks so much for your time. i also want to thank all the people that kept bmx alive all these years it is the best sport. Thanks again. Kim



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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:tell me how it all started posted by Wings on 1/2/2000 at 9:37:42 PM
Mongoose started up in Moorpark, California and Diamondback (Now in Camarillo, California) started up nearby. I live about 10 miles from both of these cities. The Schwinn Stingrays were very popular in in the late 60's and early 70's as well as muscle bikes from other manufacturers through the 70's. "The American Bicycle" by Jay Pridmore and Jim Hurd, and a book on Schwinns would be of help to you. The book on Schwinns dealt with the Bmx competition to Schwinn and Schwinns slow entry into Bmx. From the "American Bicycle Book:" The first BMX race was in Santa Monica, Calif. in 1969. Linn Kasten was active in some of the first bmx bikes in 1974. Kasten started Reline. He used chromo tubes, forks and cranks. Mongoose started in 1970 by Skip Hess who was a drag racer. Mongoose and Blue Max were names of funny cars. In 1974 Yamaha made the Moto-bike with rear shocks that ledd to bunny hopping. Bmx continued to grow in the 70's and 80's. I hope this is of some help. Those two books would help. Good luck!




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RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:bike indentification and wheel repair posted by: Aaron on 12/22/1999 at 10:33:44 AM
I picked up a bike at the flea market the other day, being as clueless to the subject as i am i thought it was a stingray but as it turned out its an iverson of somekind (it looks kind of like a roadrunner from the pictures on this site but it has gears) does anyone know where i can find any more information on this bike?
Also is there anything i can do fot the wheels to clean them up? they are a little cracked but not too bad
thanks alot
Aaron

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   bike indentification and wheel repair posted by Justin on 12/27/1999 at 6:24:58 AM
I assume you mean the tires are cracked, not the wheels (rims).
Put some oil on a rag and wipe it on the tires. It'll
clean them up and maybe soften them a bit. Beyond that, there
isn't much you can do for old tires.

If they are a desirable or unique brand, you might want to remove
them and store them somewhere, and use cheaper tires for
riding.

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:bike indentification and wheel repair posted by Teun on 4/18/2000 at 2:52:13 AM
if the wheels are in technically good shape and you are not an expert on this subject, the safest way to go about it is to clean them with some light oil (chain oil will do). this will give them a satisfying appearance. the oil will fill most of the cracks and give the paint a shiny appearance as well as protect it from rust.




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RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:bike indentification and wheel repair posted by: Aaron on 12/22/1999 at 10:33:44 AM
I picked up a bike at the flea market the other day, being as clueless to the subject as i am i thought it was a stingray but as it turned out its an iverson of somekind (it looks kind of like a roadrunner from the pictures on this site but it has gears) does anyone know where i can find any more information on this bike?
Also is there anything i can do fot the wheels to clean them up? they are a little cracked but not too bad

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:bike indentification and wheel repair posted by CHELSEY on 1/4/2000 at 5:47:35 PM
THEY USED TO MAKE AN IVERSON ROADRUNNER WITH AN INTERNAL THREE-SPEED STIK-SHIFT,THEY ALSO USED TO MAKE 3 AND 5 SPEED IVERSON DRAGSTRIPPERS.I FOUND THIS INFO. IN A BOOK I OWN CALLED "BICYCLE DIGEST" BY MARK THIFFAULT.IT HAS SOME PICTURES AND DISCRIPTIONS OF THESE BIKES IN THE BACK.
AND YOU BETTER JUST REPLACE THE WHEELS IF THEY'RE CRACKED.




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:bicycle for two posted by: Bruce on 12/21/1999 at 2:52:07 PM
I am trying to find out what kind of bike we have and if it is worth restoring? It is a bicycle for two.The front and rear handlen bars are connected by a linkage, so both people can steer. There are arrows on several vert tubes and a emblem on front tube, but not able to make it out. My wife recieve the bike in the 50's used. Can any one help me or tell me wear to go. Thanks

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:bicycle for two posted by teun on 4/18/2000 at 2:56:17 AM
you are talking about a bike-for-two with rear steering. this indicates that the front part is a ladies'. rear steering was popular around the turn of the century. I own a dutch tandem of about the same make which dates from 1898 (air tired). so look around 1900. for detailed information try contacting the Wheelmen, or maybe Velorama cycle museum in the Netherlands. it should not be too difficult.




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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Krate New Old Stock Parts posted by: TJ on 12/18/1999 at 11:22:02 AM
A friend of mine is restoring his pea picker and apple Krates. He is looking for new old stock nuts and bolts. Does anyone know where he can find them? A website or address would be most appreciated.

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Krate New Old Stock Parts posted by PW on 12/21/1999 at 12:27:01 PM
Try Hyperrays@aol.com

RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:   Krate New Old Stock Parts posted by TJ on 12/22/1999 at 7:16:55 PM
Thanks PW! Much appreciated!




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:what's my 1971 schwinn suburban worth posted by: dwight on 12/17/1999 at 10:21:15 PM
i just bought a 1971 schwinn "suburban" at a thrift store
for $8. Please tell me it's worth at least that. It had
quite a bit of rust that cleaned off surprisingly well.
Any tips on where to get schwinn brown touch-up paint.
Thanks!

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:what's my 1971 schwinn suburban worth posted by Wings on 12/22/1999 at 10:47:06 PM
Last week I bought a suburban for $9.00. Great shape, good seat. A couple of weeks ago I paid $4 for a Suburban. Some thrift stores will put a price of $79 on a very clean Varsity, Breeze, or Suburban. After a period of time the price continues to drop below $30 and it eventually sells. I wish they were worth a lot! I use them for parts. I hate to do that but it is a good source of original parts.




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Restoring a Penny Farthing posted by: Michael H. Rea on 12/9/1999 at 4:40:05 AM
I just purchased an authenticated original Penny Farthing from an antique dealer here in Johannesburg, South Africa (I'm a Canadian living here for 3 years).

The original rear tire has been replaced with a thick rubber hose, and the bike has been painted an ungodly orange.

How do I go about sourcing a replacement tire (original if possible), and what should I do to strip and repaint the bike without damaging the original front tire and/or seat?

Thanks in advance,

Michael

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Restoring a Penny Farthing posted by Ray on 12/13/1999 at 2:29:07 PM
Hello brother in the North living down south. First I want to let you know that I belong to the international Wheelman association. We are dedicated to the restoration and preservation of antique bikes, especially the Penny Farthing type. There are a couple of thing you should know. The likelyhood of you finding a replacement original tire is remote. Most wheelmen have a source for replacement rubber that is shaped in the same fashion as the originals. It is usually in tube form either solid or hollow depending on the type of bike it is on. Next there is a great book on restoring these bikes and I am going to take a guess at it because I do not have my copy with me right now. It is called "Restoring Vintage bicycles" and the author I believe is Don Adams. We can buy these in our book stores here. It has a green cover with a gold framed picture of a hi-wheel bike on the front. It will give you all sorts of tips on restoring these beauties. Finally you may want to consider joining the Wheelmen as the membership fee is low and they publish several times a year a newsletter that talks to the hobby. It also has a classified area where you can post for sale and wanted ads, you get one ad for free.
Next and best, you would be able to qualify for use of their library which is probably the most comprehensive on this subject complete with photos and catalogs. If you want more information let me know. You will not find the Wheelmen on the NET as they have not yet warmed up to the computer in their quest to preserve nostalgia. Good luck, I purchased my first PF this year and I am just learning to ride. It is a different world altogether and requires a different skill set then I am used to being a roadie/mountain biker.

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Restoring a Penny Farthing posted by Bill on 12/31/1999 at 8:00:43 AM
Hi, You can find the wheelman organization at www.thewheelmen.org and there are links to the Burgwardt Bicycle Museum- Pedaling History (email at Bicyclemus@aol.com ) that sell Don Adams's bicycle restoration book. You can order tire material in many sizes from Dick Hammel, 970 Ray St., Huntington IN.,46750-1246, Phone 219-356-5414 He sells and installs the hard rubber tires on all type of highwheel or safety bikes. hope this helps

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Restoring a Penny Farthing posted by teun on 4/18/2000 at 3:10:22 AM
'Ray' and 'Don' are right. joiing The Wheelmen is a good idea. the book by Adams is invaluable. but most of all try to get in touch with collectors in your neighbourhood (museums, ads, etc.) they will be more exprienced and there can be more than a few surprises you will ecnounter along the way!! probably a handier book for you would be "restoring antique bicycles: hints for the inexperienced" by english authors. these are the most experienced men you can find (more than 500 years put together)!!
the rear tire can be replaced easily, you just need to specify size and required amount. then try either the Czeck builder of replicas Mesiczeck or try 'Edlee antique bicycles'. they should have tires in tock readily available.
removing new paint while preserving the old is a tricky business. try to get hepl from a paint shop in your area. you need maybe a soft sandcloth, paint remover, a lot of cloth and even more patience. what you want to do is loosen maybe two microns of paint at a time untill you get to the original layer. this may take you maybe fifty times, so don't get too selfconfident!!
if the original paint cannot be restored, at least find out what colour it was!!




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:5 speed wheel posted by: stephen fredette on 12/4/1999 at 11:04:11 AM
i have an old schwinn collegiate that i've put back together
from discarded parts.the only rear wheel i could find is a
sturmey-archer 3 speed and i'm wondering if i could use the
rim and spokes and convert to a 5 speed.does anyone make a
5 speed (derailleur) hub that fits these bikes anymore?

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:5 speed wheel posted by Oscar on 12/4/1999 at 10:07:29 PM
It's usually not recommended to re-use rims, and it's never a good idea to re-use spokes. (Besides, there is a very slim chance that the spokes will fit the rim and hub. It's a game of millimeters and theres lots of combinations out there.)

I could be wrong, but I thought Collegiates had 27" wheels. If that's the case, a 27" wheel with a 5-speed hub If that's the case, new and used wheels of that size can be found all over the place.

I appreciate the spirit of a guy who is willing to piece together a bike. Best of luck.

RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:5 speed wheel posted by Wings on 12/4/1999 at 11:03:04 PM
Another opinion: Schwinn rims are built to last and when the spokes are removed you can clean that thing so it will look like new! They really clean up. I have never had a problem with used spokes. But, check the rim for cracks (you will not find any) or dents (perhaps). You can tell the spoke condition when they are unscrewed. You will have to dish the wheel which may mean two sizes of spokes. You will need to go freewheel or freehub. Old freewheels are cheap but not as many choices in cog sizes. You may need a freewheel tool. All this could cost $ and time. I strongly suggest you find another Schwinn bike with a rear wheel that fits. This way you only have to clean it, mount it, and use it. Use the derailer and shifter from the other bike since they have worked together. Use a ten speed chain. But what will you do with the other bike???? Is that the next project?
Use the derailer hanger also! Zip tie the cable and you are there!

RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:5 speed wheel posted by Wings on 12/4/1999 at 11:35:09 PM
Bike Chains: Sometimes a new chain will not work well with old cogs! Save the old chain from the second bike in case you notice the chain skips or jumps under power. An old chain, best of all, the chain that was there may work best.

RE:RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:5 speed wheel posted by stephen fredette on 12/5/1999 at 2:04:13 PM
sorry i forgot to mention that the bike takes 26" wheels
which seem much harder to find with a 5 speed freewheel
than 27".

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:5 speed wheel posted by Oscar on 12/5/1999 at 5:45:47 PM
I converted a Schwinn coaster brake lightweight to a fixed gear bike. I swapped the original Schwinn 26 x 1 3/8 wheels for 26 x 1 3/8 wheels off of a (kinda junky) Columbia 10-speed. I think that's what you should look for in a set of wheels. Note that the Schwinn front wheel will fit a different type of tire (even though they both say 26 x 1 3/8) If you can swap wheels, try to use both of the donor bike's wheels.

RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:5 speed wheel posted by Wings on 12/5/1999 at 9:39:51 PM
Very true about the Schwinn rims taking special 26x1 3/8 tires. They have the name of the rim stamped on them!
New Idea:
Why not buy a 26 inch mountain bike wheel with a freewheel or freehub (your choice). The rims are about the same width as the old rims on the bike. Buy a "nimbus" mountain bike tire which is a street tire 26 X 1.50. It is an anti-flat tire with kevlar. I have seen the kids put 1.75 mountain bike tires on Schwinn 10 speeds (mountain bike rims) so I am sure it would fit.
With a new freehub you could run a 9speed cassette and have a very wide gear range! You could use a friction shifter with it also. However the chain would cost $20.




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Mercian posted by: Nick on 12/2/1999 at 1:00:32 PM
I've just bought a 1962 Mercian lightweight with good paint, except that someone has brush painted the top tube a different colour, any suggestions on removing this paint without damaging the original finish?

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Mercian posted by CCRider on 12/3/1999 at 7:29:52 AM
Experiment with solvents like brake fluid or acetone or paint stripper.
Don't leave it on more than a second or two. Try it on
a hidden place like the bottom of the top tube. Brushed on
paint should come off easily.




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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Can Somebody Help Indentify This Old Bike? posted by: Mark on 11/29/1999 at 2:10:23 PM
I need help in indentifying an old bike found in the estate
of a deceased relative. It is in rather poor shape but seems
to have all the parts, including wheels and tires (tubes)although
everything is disassembled. I posted some pictures at the following
URLs. I was wondering, besides the identity, if the bike was worth
restoration (if possible). Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
http://www.wenet.net/'cia/bicycle/pic1.jpg
http://www.wenet.net/'cia/bicycle/pic2.jpg
http://www.wenet.net/'cia/bicycle/pic3.jpg
http://www.wenet.net/'cia/bicycle/pic4.jpg
http://www.wenet.net/'cia/bicycle/pic5.jpg

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Can Somebody Help Indentify This Old Bike? posted by Mark on 11/29/1999 at 2:29:03 PM
I just noticed that the URL's seem to be incorrect. The
tilda ' (little squiggly line usually next to the number 1 key) should be immediately before cia.
http://www.wenet.net/'cia/bicycle/pic1.jpg ect...




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Schwinn Scrambler posted by: Eron on 11/29/1999 at 6:02:07 AM
I owned a new red scrambler when I was young and was planning
to buy one and restore it.But before I buy one I was wanting
to know what year mine was.It had the cantilever frame and a
round chain gaurd that bolted onto the crank sproket.Please
post or email me with your ideas.Thanks.

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Schwinn Scrambler posted by BigMike on 12/2/1999 at 5:19:53 AM
The "Stat and Feature" database shows one - a 1977




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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Determining age/value of vintage Triumph tandem. posted by: Rich on 11/28/1999 at 10:10:44 PM
Hi, I have a tandem from Triumph that I estimate to be of a pre-WWII vintage (although I am not certain). I have worked professionally on bicycles for over ten years and have not seen any that are similar in drive train and I am curious as to the year it was manufactured and its relative value. It has a completely lugged frame, front and rear drum brakes, front generator mount, one original Brooks saddle (with the markings "FDU" and "OX" stamped on the underside, original paint with the Triumph of Coventry emblem painted on the head tube, a fixed two-cog derailleur, a three speed freewheel that is moved by an actuater arm that lays between the first and the second cog on the freewheel, the word Triumph painted on the rear seat tube, serial number (236109) stamped on lug directly under front seat on the left ahnd side, Trivelox three speed shifter mounted on front, top tube, original pedals, cotter pin crank shafts, bottom brackets with grease fittings, hubs with grease fittings, 40 rear and 32 front spoked rims, original paint. Any information that will help me to date this tandem will be greatly appreciated. I know that many manufacturers include in the serial number the date it was made, perhaps this is a 1923 tandem? Thanks for the help and look forward to some insight.

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Determining age/value of vintage Triumph tandem. posted by Scotty on 11/29/1999 at 5:14:00 AM
I've seen that derailleur setup on English
bikes of the 1940s. It might be an aftermarket
setup.

Put your question under the English Roadster topic.

RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Determining age/value of vintage Triumph tandem. posted by Rich on 11/29/1999 at 11:00:15 PM
thanks for replying. I posted a message on the roadster discussion page but have gotten no bites. Can you elaborate on what you know about the derailleur. Please feel free to respond on the roadster message dated 11/22/99.




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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:fisrt time restoring posted by: Tom on 11/27/1999 at 5:46:13 AM
What do I do first? Still trying to determine the value and game plan for this bike. It is a hawthrone in great shape, tank, dual headlamp, might be a three speed from the looks of the rear hub. The first tag is from 68 but could be older.

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RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:fisrt time restoring posted by Wings on 11/28/1999 at 12:45:49 AM
1. Order replacement parts for visible problems.
2. Remove wheels, fenders, rack, etc. to get to frame.
3. Pull crank and bottom bracket bearings to clean and repack. Clean Chain ring. Clean chain.
4. Remove handlebar stem. Clean, lube headset (remove fork). Lube stem and install.
5. Remove seat post and seat. Clean seat. Clean post, polish. Lube and install.
6. With all the parts off the frame this makes it easy to Clean, detail, and wax the frame to get a shiny frame. Polish chrome pieces.
7. The wheels may need to be taken apart. Clean/replace spokes and true wheel. Clean and pack wheel bearings. Clean 3 speed hub - don't look in there. Make sure you hear good clicks!
8. Mount tires. Let them sit overnight to make sure no snakebite happens.
9. Put it all together. Clean chain/replace, adjust tension and wheel positions.
10. Get a chair. Sit down and look at how good it looks!
That is the order I tend to go in. It works for me! I want to get a frame that I can clean and detail and then do the individual parts. Lubricate and install. Good luck!
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