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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Ross Gran Eurosport posted by: Jesse on 10/9/2008 at 12:22:59 AM
I just recently bought an old Ross Gran Eurosport 10 Speed and I was just curious if anyone knew anything about them. They are nearly impossible to research. I'd like to also know if there is any way for me to get the original decals for the bike so I can restore the frame. Thanks!

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Ross Gran Eurosport posted by jj on 10/9/2008 at 3:54:45 AM
You might want to ask this question under the "Vintage Lightweight" topic. I've seen this bike discussed there.

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Ross Gran Eurosport posted by james white on 6/13/2009 at 9:52:08 AM
i have been riding a ross eurosport i found in a thrift store.i ride betwwen 15 and 30 miles a day for excercise.the one outstanding characteristic is that it never breaks down.i also love the freewheeling crank it enables you to shift when not pedaling.

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Restoration posted by: Scott on 9/28/2008 at 4:36:15 PM
I am looking at a very old Schwinn Pacer?
It belonged to a man's Grandfather.
Somehow, even though it has spent several years outside, it seems like it can be fixed up.
They must have made those bikes with excellent materials and used sturdy paint.
It has engraved calipers that seem to be in good shape and a solid frame
but I no nothing about vintage bikes. I recently purchased a lot of old parts and NOS balloon tires etc. so I was looking for an old bike to restore and was wondering if anyone has ever heard of this model?
Thank you,

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Restoration posted by Steve on 12/30/2008 at 6:28:51 AM
Try posting on this site. Good luck !

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Schwinn Tires posted by: Bill Thom on 9/23/2008 at 6:42:16 AM
I looking for two 27 inch X 11/4 Schwinn tires S5 or S6 on sidewall. Where can I find them. Thanks

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Schwinn Tires posted by Terry on 10/10/2008 at 5:50:08 AM
bycycle I.D.

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Lady's Western Flyer posted by: Bill FitzSimmons on 9/17/2008 at 8:45:06 AM
My wife just picked up a Western Flyer, which I'd like to restore. Not sure of the age, but it has the badge on the front, so I can probably get the ser. #. If I have this, where can I go to find the age/value? How about sources for parts & accessories? Any/all e-mails answered. Help??

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Lady's Western Flyer posted by Bob on 12/31/2008 at 4:29:00 AM
I picked up a 1950 man's Western Flyer that I'm going to restore. I find it difficult on getting any information on it. The only thing missing on it is the headlamp on front fender. I was lightly sanding on the "gas tank" and the original paint job came back. Under the words Western Flyer a big jet airplane started showing, fancy designs on fenders.
I would like to learn how to get to the bearings that are connected to the pedals. The front wheel bearings and the back bearing were almost dry. And also the bearings on neck on handle bars I'm going to have to learn to dismantle.
So if you ever find out if there's a website that offers help let me know.

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Lady's Western Flyer posted by Bob on 12/31/2008 at 5:04:14 AM
Oooops, I'm already on a website for for help, LOL. (Too early in the morning).

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Lady's Western Flyer posted by Bob on 12/31/2008 at 5:07:11 AM
The serial number and model number is underneath the frame where the pedals are located on my Western Flyer.

RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:Lady's Western Flyer posted by jj on 1/1/2009 at 7:15:16 AM
Type "western flyer" into the black google search box at the top of any page on this site. That will put you into the archives.
There are over 200 references on western flyers in the archives. Woo Hoo!

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:1950's Columbia Mens Bike posted by: Jerry on 8/26/2008 at 9:45:26 AM

I saved a really cool old bike from the town dump but dont know what model it is. I have pictures of it, its a Columbia with a rear fender and body moldings. I live in Northwest Connecticut if anyone is interested in it I would sell it relatively cheap to the right person who would want to restore it. Medium surface rust on a few of the chrome parts, rims and frame, but it appears to be all there and original including the bell on the handle bars! I have posted photos at


Does anyone have any idea what I should ask for it? Thanks in advance!



RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:1950's Columbia Mens Bike posted by jj on 8/27/2008 at 3:52:45 AM
Be sure to post it under the Balloon Tire topic here, too.
Nice find!

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:1950's Columbia Mens Bike posted by Ryan on 11/5/2008 at 6:49:23 AM
Do you still have this bike. I would like a chance to restore it if possible- it deserves some respect and love. Thanks for saving it from the dump.

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Tire mounting posted by: Victor Miller on 8/17/2008 at 5:19:06 PM
Raliegh Tourist with 28" rims. I bought new tires and I cant get the tire on the rim. Appears that the previous owner had a similar problem as the bead of the tire on the rim has been broken. Upon closer inspection I find the origional Raliegh tire is 40 x 635 and the 28 x 1 5/8 are 37 x 622. Apears that the tires are to small. I need a source for the correct tire.

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT: Tire mounting posted by gayle on 8/20/2008 at 10:24:50 AM
Try Harris Cyclery. I bought a set of 28 x 1 1/2 Kendas for my 79 DL-1 Tourist and they worked perfectly. Nice people to deal with too.

RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT: Tire mounting posted by Dougie on 9/23/2008 at 3:16:36 AM
I am currently refurbiching 1947 Rudge and want to know what type of paint I should apply to keep it oroginal. I am also looking for transfers for the frame and chain guard any ideas

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Schwinn Black Phantom posted by: Bill Alexander on 8/16/2008 at 4:44:10 PM
I just acquired an orginal Black Phantom with all the whistles and bells. Literally. This thing looks like the orginal pimp-mobile and had every option ever dreamed of on it. It has dual fog lights. A head light called a "train", bell, multi-speed (rare in that the bike already was expensive, and adding multi-speed was really an expense), a battery case, and tons of cables. Either the Bike shop saw this guy coming and sold him every conceivable option available, or money was no object during the early fifties. So here's my question. Should I strip off most of the "stuff" and sell it off to ebay'ers as orginal equipment or just go for a show room, show quality restoration. Can anyone recommend the "best" shop out there to do the restoraton and is it going to cost a couple of thousand dollars to bring this one back to life. It really is a site to behold and I can't help but just stop and stare at it. It does take your breath away for those old Bike addicts that can't resist the curves. Appreciate any advise or help.


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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:COLUMBIA TOURIST X posted by: spunk3115 on 8/15/2008 at 8:31:22 PM
hey guys i got a nice columbia tourist x i've restored it a little bit, but i got a quick quesiton what kind of threading would it be to replace the bottom bracket or does anyone knows the specs on it and any idea where to get columbia decals?
thanks in advance


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RESTORATION TIPS - WHEELS:   3-wheeler posted by: Camille on 8/13/2008 at 3:29:34 PM
I was given an old Sears 3-wheeler 3 speed. The left rear axle, rings, bearings, etc. need replacing, and/or re-threading. I have no idea where to go for parts or help. Local bike shop does not want to touch it.


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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Serial Number posted by: Howie on 8/10/2008 at 2:04:30 PM
I have a 1960's vintage Columbia FireArrow female version. The serial number seems to be on the left rear drop out of the rear fork. It is 5198057. But this numbering convention doesn't match up with what appears on this website in terms of format or numbers of digits. Does anyone have a clue to solving this mystery? Also, how do you restore paint that has some rust?

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Serial Number posted by Jesse on 10/9/2009 at 2:05:47 PM
I found an abandoned woman's tourist III from 1950 in excellent shape. the serial # is kind of confusing because the letter R was stamped crooked and some distance away from the serial #, both of which were on the bottom of the hub, plus in between the letter and the serial # were several clusters of 3 or 4 digits and single digits, that have nothing to do with the date serial #. look all over the bottom of the hub for the Letter #. then you can find the date it was manufactured.

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:'66 schwinn stingray-paint posted by: josh on 8/2/2008 at 9:31:26 AM
i just bought a 66 stingray at a yard sale for 10.00 someone painted this purple bike white with house paint ,iremoved 75% of this white paint to reveal the true purple(suprisingly the original paint is in good condition) what is the best way to take of the rest.i used a hi powered pressure washer but it still has some stubborn areas. any suggestions i would rather keep the original paint then have it repainted. any help would be greatly appreciated

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:'66 schwinn stingray-paint posted by Katherine on 8/10/2008 at 1:24:53 PM
When I was attempting to restore my bike, I found that you can *very* gently use some steel wool and wet scrub the stubborn areas. If you scrub too hard, it will damage the surface of the original paint, but with just the right amount of pressure you should be able to remove the most stubborn areas. I also found that it works better with a little soap also, instead of just water. Hope this helps!

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:'66 schwinn stingray-paint posted by Freakmoots on 11/2/2008 at 5:43:26 AM
If it's not too late, I'd try some other methods before resorting to the steel wool. As Katherine suggests, use soapy water, but make it very warm. Then try a stiff, thin-edged, plastic scraper or spatula or scotchbrite. The latter is less likely to scratch through to the original paint than steel wool, but you would still need to use a very light touch.

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:'66 schwinn stingray-paint posted by bill on 11/18/2008 at 12:27:30 PM
Try using a automotive polishing compound followed by sratch and swirl remover wax. It worked really well on my wifes old raleigh 3 speed

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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:Decals posted by: Eric on 7/31/2008 at 1:44:42 PM
I have a vintage 1968 crescent race frame I want to restore...its the classic orange checkered with the "varldsmastarcyckeln" on it etc...the frame is pretty beat up and some fool RTV'd his rear brake on it at some point. Anyway, the paint I can do, I gota buddy who owns a paint shop, but the decals are a different problem. I found a few shops that will do the work but they all insist I send the frame to them and pay them $400.00 to "restore" it, citing copyright laws that prevent them from selling me just the decals. I have done acid decals before, and I know the process of applying and curing them between the final paint and clear coat yada yada, I just want the decals. Any ideas? Im an architect/graphic artist so I could probably re-create these decals in illustrator or photoshop, so maybe a custom decal place could make them? help. thanks in advance.


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RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:196x Murray Skybolt posted by: Katherine on 7/23/2008 at 2:09:26 PM
Hello everyone,

A friend of mine was cleaning out his Grandmother's garage and found an old bicycle, which he gave to me. From what I've gathered on this site, it's probably a 1963 Murray Skybolt. The serial number is 45011 237 95. I know almost nothing about bicycles, but since I've been trying to get this one in nice shape I've learned a lot. I took it to the bicycle shop on post and had them take it apart, then I cleaned the rust from all the parts, stripped the frame of rust and most of the old paint, and I'm currently trying to get the fresh coat of paint on. This has been QUITE a challenge. After looking at several photos online, I think I know how all the parts fit back together, but I still have a few questions:

- Does it matter that there's rust inside the tubes, and what can I do to stop it? I bought a spray that converts rust into black primer, but it really hasn't worked all that well on other parts of the bike. It would probably be better than nothing, but perhaps there's a better option.

- Which parts do I grease, and exactly what do I grease them with? I've got WD-40 but something tells me that won't be good enough. I also know that the bearings definitely have to be greased, but what about the other parts? Do the posts need to be greased before being placed in the tubes?

- Are there really three washers in a row on my crank assembly? In each diagram I've seen there are two that have these tiny interlocking grooves, but I have a third that just doesn't seem to fit anywhere else on the bike, doesn't actually fit with the two interlocking washers, but DOES have a notch that fits a groove in the pedal arm...but it seems completely superfluous.

- Though I got the rust off the chrome, the surface is rather pitted and tends to re-rust a little over time. Is there any way to keep the chrome from rusting all over again, or would I have to choose between having it rechromed or resorting to painting it as well?

- Does anyone know if the Skybolt came in any color besides blue, or if any bikes from the 60s came in gunmetal? A few parts on the bike were so damaged they need replacing entirely, so since it won't be totally vintage anymore anyway, I chose to paint it a color I like better than bright blue. I just wonder if it happens to be acceptable for the time period anyway.

Thanks in advance, I'm hoping to post some pictures of the finished product sometime in the next two weeks!

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:196x Murray Skybolt posted by ken on 7/25/2008 at 1:42:51 PM
1) I think most of Murray's girls' bikes of that period featured the metallic blue and chrome combination. Here's an example
Murray made bikes for Sears (Flightliner, Spaceliner,) and a lot of other retailers like Gamble's, Western Auto, etc.
Light green would work. Red was for boys... but your favorite color will make a nice custom job.
2) It already isn't totally vintage if you've removed the paint. Restoring correctly would require a spray booth and lots more, and isn't cost-effective.
3) you can wax or lightly oil the rusting chrome, but you can't make it new. Don't paint it. I suggest you try to put it in riding condition, and ride it with pride, even if it's rusty. (I've got one that age that has that problem...)
4) The inside of the frame probably won't get worse very fast. If the black stuff doesn't help, use the WD-40 there; it displaces moisture.
5) Use real grease. Marine grease, axle grease, bearing grease - even actual Phil Wood grease from the bicycle shop, if you can afford it. WD-40 ain't grease. Yes, grease the post and the stem, and everything that has threads.
6) The washer with the notch that fits in the pedal arm keeps the cone from turning when you tighten the crank assembly after you adjust the crank bearings. Install it first after the cone.
7) There's plenty of great maintenance info at the Park Tool website, and the public library probably has a bike service manual. I'm proud of you for attempting the job. Let us know how it goes.

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:196x Murray Skybolt posted by jerry on 9/28/2008 at 6:22:16 PM
I just bought a murray girl's skybolt bicycle that has been in a barn for forty years and in a bad "paint" condition.

Is there anyway I can determine when this bike was made and at what location?
Also is there any value in this bicycle

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:196x Murray Skybolt posted by twitch on 1/28/2010 at 11:30:55 AM
hi, idk if anyone looks at this page anymore, BUT, i just wanted to put my two cents in about the murray skybolt i have in my possession. it was my mother's, who is deceased, but i just got back to the bike 15 yrs after her demise. i KNOW it WAS red, but now is ugly and rusted solid, the only thing on it that didn't rust over was the murray insignia. but i intend to restore it so i have something to pass on to my children. it has reflectors, of which the one on the front is half broke off. but this will be my project for the next couple months. if anyone wants to comtact me or ask questions about this subject, please email me at twitchinrealbadagain@yahoo.com , i am partial to this bike simply becuz i remember how much joy i had riding bikes with her. and i restore bikes to working ridable condition. signed...29 yr old mother of three....ps- i saw on another site where sum lady said to sum1 else "don't repaint, ride it with pride, rust and all" is repainting a bad idea? im not looking to get rich, but im sure if i restored it my kids mite later appreciate it,hmm? i will come back in a sec to post a pic


RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:196x Murray Skybolt posted by jj on 1/29/2010 at 5:16:30 AM
Oh yeah, people do follow these older threads.
I agree with the 19 year old mother of three, do not paint it. Just clean it up and ride it!

RE:RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:196x Murray Skybolt posted by Wade on 6/27/2010 at 8:57:02 AM
Negative! I'm a purist and believe in a full restoration, but try to be as true to how it appeared when new. I'm restoring a 1937 Schwinn girl's bike, and also have obtained a Murray Skybolt from cira 1959. However, this one is in such good shape, it needs very little. But, if I were that lady, RESTORE IT! You don't want to ride a rusty bike. And, restoring it will make it glean like new for years to come!

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - PAINT:196x Murray Skybolt posted by Ginny on 9/5/2011 at 4:06:51 AM
I to have a Murray Skybolt in excellant condition even has the original white wall tires, a little rust on the chrome fenders and handle bar. Original rubber hand grips, basket on front, the seat isn't original, been kept in the garage for years. Would like to know how old it is. number M45011 328166

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC: posted by: Pamela on 7/21/2008 at 12:42:32 PM
Hello I have a childs bicyle on the side of it reads astro flyer. Near the back of the bike I can only make out 33 flavors in red on the handle grips they read western flyer. I would like to restore the bike. Can you help me with information on the bike. ie price what kind of bike it is and the year. Sincerly Pam

RE:RESTORATION TIPS - MISC: posted by John Applegate on 9/24/2008 at 5:29:07 PM
Hi Pamela, I was searching for some info myself on MY Astro Flyer and I wanted to send you some pics if you"d like. This one was made by Western Flyer, which was Western Autos' brand and from what I can gather built in about '65. I could be off on the year, because I can't seem to find a chart(Just comparable pics). Mine's in good shape so let me know if you want to see pics, John

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RESTORATION TIPS - MISC:eatons road king posted by: G on 7/12/2008 at 5:37:55 PM
I have my dad's old bike. A red (candy apple-ish) eatons road king. It has Made in Hungary engraved on the down tube and had a black book carrier over the rear fender.
The coaster brake arm says Super Granat. No other markings on the wheels. I'm guessing mid 60's or earlier.
I'm restoring it and would like to know anything you might know about these bikes. I dont care about the value as I intend to ride it. I do need some parts so sources would be very appreciated.
Thanks in advance :)


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