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AGE / VALUE:   Bicycle Show Boston, MA posted by: Joe on 5/25/2002 at 3:17:06 AM
Bicycle show. Sullivan Square 1 Mile north of Downtown Boston. Please email me with question. The show is free to all.

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FOR SALE:   1885 Columbia Expert posted by: Stephen on 5/19/2002 at 1:18:17 PM
1885 Columbia Expert, 52", bent handle abr, pan seat. Older Restoration. Complete and great rider. $4500 firm

1897 Klondike Mead Womens Bicycle. older restoration $1200 firm.

Will not ship. Must pick up.

517-629-7019. Stephen Located in Michigan

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FOR SALE:   1885 Columbia Expert posted by: Stephen on 5/19/2002 at 1:16:54 PM
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AGE / VALUE:   Used hiwheels for sale on ebay posted by: Greg on 5/17/2002 at 10:59:02 PM
FYI, there are two used Hiwheels for sale on ebay now, yes they were built by us, no I'm not selling them. There is a 38" and a 48" semi custom with a Classic style saddle. The numbers are 1829225458 and 1828826434. I bid on the 38, it's cheap but I don't need to get it if there is somebody in need. I'd just resell it anyway so someone buy it! The 48" starts at $600 so it's cheap too. I think it retailed a while ago for about $1000 and freight... if it is the bike I think it is. Good luck and have fun.

Also! The Davis Cyclebration is this weekend in Davis, California. It's a wheelmen meet too I believe, lot's of fun and it keeps getting bigger and better every year. Hope some people can attend.

Greg

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MISC:   New concept posted by: Ryan on 5/14/2002 at 2:22:00 AM
i am looking into designing a pedal car for adults. it will be based on a new 3 wheeled recumberent with front wheel steering and rear wheel drive. i am planning to make a fibreglass flaring kit in the style of a vintage car. any feedback on the flaring and 'big boys pedal car' concept would be much apreciated!

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FOR SALE:   Very unusual Liberty bicycle from 1800s posted by: Ray on 5/12/2002 at 3:42:45 PM
Check out this antique with great graphics, original paint and Liberty bell handgrips. Kellis handlebars and tangental hubs. Check it out soon as the auctions closes on Mon!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2101181353

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MISC:   Pennyfarthing From Semcycle? posted by: Joe on 5/9/2002 at 12:52:50 AM
Semcycle, known mostly as a unicycle maker (I ride their 28"), has a smallish (43") pennyfarthing in their catalog. Does anyone have any knowledge of or experience with this item?

Their site is:
http://www.semcycle.com

Catalog is a .pdf document. For convenience I have clipped an image here:
http://members.aol.com/ickyslug/penfarth.jpg

Price is listed at $1000 (a bit more than a RBR). It appears to have a rear wheel brake. I haven't contacted Sem for more info yet. I'm looking for a relatively inexpensive step up from my Coker Wheelman.

Thanks!

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          RE:MISC:   Pennyfarthing From Semcycle? posted by Mike on 5/16/2002 at 9:42:59 PM
Hi, I to have a Coker Bike, and have steped Up to a larger bike.
I got A 48" RBR bike, and will tell you it is a very good bike.
I also like the idea of brakes. I found that the(shimono) road
bike brakes fit the shape of the small rear hard rubber tire.
It was a very easy upgrade. I also checked out the symcycle,
and got no help with my questions as to the type of brakes
where it was built or any way to see one before I purchased one.
I live in CA. and you are welcome to ride my RBR bike and see for
your self. Or call the guy's At RBR you will find them very helpfull.
Good Luck
Mike Sutton

          RE:MISC:   Pennyfarthing From Semcycle? posted by Joe on 5/18/2002 at 7:27:07 AM
Thanks for the response, and the EMail. I have more or less decided that the price of a good pennyfarthing is beyond what I am able to budget for a hobby thing at the moment. I may yet talk myself into it though... Meanwhile I have committed to upgrading the rather flimsy componentry of my Coker. The seat was replaced long ago. A few days ago I added a new handlebar and stem (original one-piece unit developed a crack just above the expansion bolt). This weekend I will be shopping for some sturdier brakes; calipers with a long enough reach are apparently not easy to find though. I am also wondering if a different front freewheel hub could be built out of standard parts (and cotterless cranks!). The Wheelman seems basically a sound unit but it really could be componented a little better in my opinion.

About RBR - Anything I do buy will have to be either a modern design or a new replica. I see comments here and there from purists who seem to look askance at the RBR for some reason, but I can't quite make out specifically why they feel this way. Is it a design authenticity thing, a quality issue, comfort, politics, what? I'd like something like a Victory or a Mesicek, but... $$$$...

          RE:RE:MISC:   Pennyfarthing From Semcycle? posted by Mike on 5/18/2002 at 2:42:18 PM
Well, I guess that you have run across a bike snobb!!
The truth is all the bike builders of the past used the
best parts they could come up with. And the quality of
steel at the time (1890) not near as strong as today.
Berrings have been getting better as well. When you get
on any PENNY FARTHING that is just what it is. And having
a vintage or replica bike they both look and ride the same.
Being uptight about improving bikes with new hi-tec parts
is silly and backward thinking. I am glad my RBR bike has
modern berrings. As for my Coker 36" bike with a AIR tire's
Brakes and it freewheels, all good things.Yes, I too changed
the seat, day one on my coker.The price of the Coker bike Very
low that is why the parts are not higher quality. If your a
collector and want a trophy, and only a original will do, then
all you need is $$$. I like to see any high wheeler new or old
out for a ride.
Stay on Top
Mike Sutton

          RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Pennyfarthing From Semcycle? posted by Joe on 5/19/2002 at 2:21:51 AM
Two typical quotes from earlier posts on this board:

"Generally speaking, you get what you pay for. If you plan to ride the bike seriously, the RBR bikes probably aren't your best alternative. Their price is however very appealing and they do offer acceptable quality and a reasonably acceptable replica."

"There is not much to be said against the use of replicas. They do not offer the same level of bicycle as the original counterpart does - but as a class of their own these bikes certainly have a purpose... (no original available, racing , tricks, circus)..."

If all it is is a mine's-original-yours-isn't thing, then I think it's misguided. The number of rideable original antique bikes in the world is a finite and ever-diminishing quantity after all, and we accept only the genuinely old specimens as legitimate pennyfarthing rides, then the hobby can not possibly grow. If I were somehow able to acquire one, I wouldn't want to ride it in any serious way anyway for fear of damaging something irreplaceable (along with the bike!). Anyway, people back in the 1880's didn't scrounge century-plus-old bikes from flea markets and spend months restoring them to rideable condition. When they bought bikes, they went to their local purveyor of velocipedes and bought brand-new ones, and rode them the way we would ride new bikes today. If we want to recreate the *experience* of late-nineteenth-century bicycling, shouldn't we be riding new pennyfarthings just as they did? That's my logic, and I'm stickin' to it.

If on the other hand there is some actual structural or performance issue at play, I'd like to know what, for instance, the "...probably aren't your best alternative" or "They do not offer the same level of bicycle..." means. (Please note that many positive comments about these machines have also been posted; I'm concentrating on the negatives here 'cuz they are what I'm curious about.)

Thanks anyone!
- Joe




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AGE / VALUE:   Reading Bicycle posted by: Greg on 5/2/2002 at 5:19:15 PM
I ran across an old Reading bike, presumably pre1900, and was wondering if anyone had any info on this maker/bikes. it was a fixed gear (track) and had a nickle plated seat with 2 pads for the sit bones. E-mail at gkreski@ford.com and maxvelocity1@peoplepc.com Thanks much!

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MISC:   ride posted by: rickey@knowlesbicycle334-756-7561 on 5/2/2002 at 2:45:58 PM
would you like to come ride this sat may 4 we will have 300 or more bike riders this is an annual event here in valley alabama 30 min. from columbus ga. 1 hr. south of atlanta ga. I-85 valley lanette exitlots of fun & activities an auction at the local kroger gro. in lanette al. to raise money for valley haven school call 334-756-2868 334-756-7801 or the local bicycle shop 334-756-7561 hope to see you thare


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MISC:   hike bike run posted by: rickey@knowlesbicycle334-756-7561 on 4/29/2002 at 3:53:03 PM
THE 26th ANNUAL HIKE/BIKE/RUN WILL BE HELD ON SATURDAY may 4 in valley THE annually fund raiser for valley haven school for the handicaped ..WE EXPECT A LARGE GATHERING THIS YEAR ...THERE WILL BE MANY CYCLRIST RIDEING BACK FROM MONTGOMERY'S CAPITAL 100 MILES--A 22 MILE-- 11 MILE 5 MILE RIDERS WALKERS RUNNERS ALL AGES MOTER SCOOTERS TO -- AND I PERSONALY INVITE YOU TO JOIN US THIS YEAR MAY 4 HERE IN VALLEY AL. WERE ON THE BORDER GA & AL INTERSTATE 85 AT THE VALLEY LANNETT KING FORD EXIT TAKE FOB JAMES DR. TO FAIRFAX BYPAS THE SCHOOL'S ON THE RIGHT 1 HALF MILE THIS IS WHERE ALL THE EVENTS BEGAN & END EXCEPT THE 100 MILE RIDE WHICH ENDS AT THE KROGER GRO.IN LANNETT AL.THERE WILL BE A AUCTION WHERE ALL DONATED ITEMS WILL BE SOLD TO RAISE MONEY FOR VALLEY HAVEN SCHOOL GOD BLESS PLEASE COME PARTICIPATE YOU MAY CALL THE SCHOOL AT 334-7562868 OR 334-756-7801 OR US HERE AT KNOWLES BICYCLE SHOP 334-756-7561 TUNE YOUR BIKE & RIDE SAT. MAY 4 2002 IN VALLYE AL.YOUR PLEDGES ARE WELCOMED

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AGE / VALUE:   Western Wheel Works Crescent #4 posted by: Lise Krieger on 4/17/2002 at 2:08:31 AM
My brother just gave me a Western Wheel Works Crescent #4. It's in beautiful condition. Anyone know an approximate value? I also need pedals for it. Where might I find these? Thanks

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MISC:   1903 California Motor Bike posted by: JimW. on 4/13/2002 at 9:08:44 PM
The first solo crossing, with a motor vehicle, of the continental US was made in 1903, by George A. Wyman on a 1903 California motorbike. He travelled between San Francisco to New York City. The design and tooling of the bike were sold to Consolidated Mfg. of Toledo, OH the following year, when it became the Yale-California. There are a couple of them still in existance. We at BikeRod&Kustom webzine are reprinting Mr. Wyman's contemporary account of his trek. We are at the early stages of organizing a recreation of his expedition in honor of its 100th anniversary next year. We are planning to
build a modern-technology, but sort of period-authentic-looking replica of the machine for the trip. Rif Addams, one of our contributing editors will be in the saddle.
We are interested in input from elder-bike enthusiasts as to
the technical details of a machine of this vintage, sources for an appropriate saddle and other components, such as a Duck Brake. The official publication of this issue will be in two months, but the Wyman Saga is already in place at: http://bikerodnkustom3.homestead.com/wyman1.html
The last page gives information about the centennial project
with URLs for relevant information we have found so far. We
have found someone who has built a working replica of the
California's engine, and will be putting up a page to do with it when the photos arrive. All are invited to put in their 2 (Indian Head, presumably) cents in.
Regards,
Jim

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          RE:MISC:   1903 California Motor Bike posted by Catfood Rob on 4/25/2002 at 6:45:53 PM
Its priject like this that make me wish I lived over there............ waaaaaaay to go Jim.
If I lived there,. Id be building it for you.

          RE:MISC:   1903 California Motor Bike posted by Catfood Rob on 4/25/2002 at 6:46:53 PM
If I could spell"projects"that is......

          RE:RE:MISC:   1903 California Motor Bike posted by JimW. on 5/6/2002 at 6:38:29 PM
For this project: anybody know where we can find a Garford spring saddle, or something very similar? This was the saddle Mr.Wyman's California was fitted with.
Jim
http://bikerodnkustom3.homestead.com/wyman7.html




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AGE / VALUE:   HELP!! posted by: Tom on 4/6/2002 at 5:55:54 PM
Hi,
I need some help, maybe somebody can tell me what bicycyle I have here, it is very lightweight (9 lbs. as it sits in pictures) and seems very old, Please HELP!! Thank You, Tom
To see pictures go to:
http://www.photoisland.com/servlet/GuestLogin?USERNAME=tman2002
password=Light

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MISC:   Penny farthing Audio Visual posted by: Rob Walls on 4/2/2002 at 12:03:04 PM
For those of you interested in Penny Farthing bicycles I have created an audio visual of the 2002 National (Australian) Championships held at Evandale in Tasmania on 22nd to 24th February. It is available as a PC slide show (free download of 2.7mb) from: http://www.beechbrook.com/pte.

Hope you like it...

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          RE:MISC:   Penny farthing Audio Visual posted by Ian on 4/27/2002 at 7:10:42 AM
Rob, could you please check the location and /or give more details on how to find the page. I copied and pasted the address from your posting but the Beechbrook site says the page does not exist on their site? Thanks, Ian.




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AGE / VALUE:   Real Downer posted by: CatfoodRob on 3/30/2002 at 11:46:59 AM
Heres a sickner for you....or two !
Went `round to my buddies yesterday.... he had two complete pre-ww1 b.s.a. bikes ready for the trash..... one was rideable.... trouble is, no one collects them over here in England. And he had no room for them......
His friend built up a small local museum of oldbikes.. needless to say, the museum made no money ,the landlords closed him... luckily he got new premises in an old country mansion`s stables... mansion is open to public etc. Great you may say.... not so, they only have room for half his bikes...... the rest? including pre-war?? You got it, destined for the dumpster.
This is a sad situation, especially as the bikes were built here in England......
Just wish they were in the `states.

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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Real Downer posted by teun on 4/2/2002 at 6:50:28 AM
I don't collect bikes that young myself but If you've got a bit of time+space to keep the bikes until the International rally at Roeselare: There are a lot of German and dutch collectors who have started collecting young biycles. He might try and sell them there (get a few quid while doing so). If no, get me some more info (via e-mail) and i'll try to help you get the bikes a home a bit sooner.

          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Real Downer posted by Catfood Rob on 4/3/2002 at 8:13:56 PM
Thanks to everybody who mailed me about this.
The b.s.a`s are coming home with me... just what I need...another hobby!!!!! :)
The museum dude has got an old church hall as storage, although some stuff will be at the famouse Buleau autojumble this fall.
Good results all `round.
Teun , are you in the u.k. ??? The museum is in the north , near manchester.

          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Real Downer posted by teun on 4/5/2002 at 8:25:58 AM
thanks, will take a look when i get there (am not from U.K., but from Netherlands).
Good luck with your hobby!!

          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Real Downer posted by Tim Powell on 4/8/2002 at 10:10:54 PM
I am amazed that you say no one collects these in the UK. I collect these and so do about 2000 other people. Try contacting the Veteran Cycle Club. If you place an advert in their "News & Views" magazine you would be inundated with buyers!
Good Luck.

          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Real Downer posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/17/2002 at 3:28:06 PM
Well that's it! I'll put some dirt in the bottom of the box from the home country and have them nail me in it. Then it's off to U.P.S. for me shipment to England. It's time I swoosh about late at night looking for the old bicycles of the undead. This is really unbelievable! Pre WW1? The room is spinning on me here! I'm gonna dress up like a vampire and go on t.v. in England.

          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Real Downer posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/17/2002 at 3:32:34 PM
So when these are set out at the kerb in England they don't dissapear within the first twenty minutes? You wouldn't believe how soon a bike, any bike will vanish on trash night!

          RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE posted by christopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/29/2002 at 3:13:00 PM
I'll call my a.d campaign: Bring out your dead bicycles.

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