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AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten? posted by: Dick in FL on 5/4/2005 at 5:03:40 PM
Randy ... are you out there? I just ran across a very nice racy Canadian 10-speed at my local thrift. A Pro-Ten. The frame is what intrigues me; it is very light with a substantial kickstand boss integrated into the formation of the bottom bracket lug. The chain stays can *never* get pinched. Also, the rear dropouts were formed with integral tubular lugs that slip over the ends of the chainstays and seat stays. It has alloy clincher wheels, and the paint looks to be perfect in an appealing metallic safron (tanferine?). It has been marked down to $24.95 in its first 24 hours. What can you (or anyone) tell me about this model? Is some knowledgeable 'urban outdoorsman' going to appear and snatch it away from me before it descends to my $6 obligatory purchase point?

Dick in FL
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by Randy on 5/5/2005 at 1:46:38 AM
I recently passed an almost mint Pro Ace on to a friend here in, not so sunny, Thunder Bay, Canada. The Pro Ace was an entry level bicycle, at best, and of very little interest to me. I have never heard of a Pro Ten but if it has an integral kick stand mount, chances are it is less than collectable(just an opinion). I would, however, love to have a few pictures of it so that I can show others on my web site.

Some of the better Canadian bicycles that I am aware of, and I am by no means an expert but I am learning quickly, are as follows:

Miele built a full range of bicycles, ranging from entry level to full Columbus SXL tubed, Campagnolo "Super Record" equipped rides. I have owned and still do own a few of the mid level Mieles and they have proved to be very well made and a treat to ride. I am ever on the watch for a high end model. I have devoted a bit of space to the Miele that I like and ride on my web site, in case you are interested. I also have two other Mieles, one of which will be offered on Ebay as soon as I have a chance to check it over and ensure that its structural integrity has been preserved.

Gardin is another high end Canadian brand that I have had some experience with. Again, they were offered in a variety of levels, from entry to full blown racing of the highest quality. As I understand it, a local fellow, Kurt Harnett, was sponsered by and rode Gardins to fame on, two occassions, in the Olympic games. I have three Gardins, one I am keeping and two are for sale or trade. I recently refurbished my Columbus tubed, full Campagnolo "Victory" equipped Gardin and took it out for its test ride. Nice bike, to say the least. The ride was short lived, since the tires were just too old to last for long. The Gardin "Victory" is now hanging in the shed and slated for a full restoration, next winter. I might even throw a set of tires on it and ride it a few more time just to be sure of the bicycle's structural integrity.

I am also familiar with the Cambio Rino brand and I have an absolutely lovely example of these beautiful bicycles. Actually, I have two Cambio Rinos but I am interested in one only, the Cambio Rino "2000". It has a full Champion #1 butted chrome moly frame, complete with fork and seat stay supports. All of the components are pantographed with the Cambio Rino name. I found the bike at the local dumb and the tires even had air in them(it is, I might add, very difficult to find vintage air these days). The Cambio was quickly refurbished and taken out for a test ride last summer. It is, by far, the nicest riding Canadian bicycle that I own. One test ride turned into another and I ended up riding the bicycle for the rest of the summer(on and off with other favorite mounts). I just took the Cambio down this week for a full blown restoration. All of the components have been cleaned up and a couple do need to be replaced. Fortunately, I just scored a Rino grouppo on Ebay, for a good price, and the set is NOS. I will put pictures of the Cambio Rino "2000" on my web site as soon as I finish the bicycle. I might add, that the Cambio Rino has, in my humble opinion, the ugliest decals that I have ever seen. While I'm on the subject of Cambio Rinos, I have a second Cambio Rino for sale or trade and it is in very good condition.

Sekines are another very popular Canadian made bicycle, but like the others mentioned, they are no longer being produced. I have a vey nice example of a Sekine SHT 270, which is the second from the top of the Sekine line. It is very well made and one of the quickest handling bikes in my collection. I must admit that I have not ridden the SHT for a while now. Perhaps I will take it out for a spin on the weekend. Again, for those who would like to have a look, check out my web site. The SHT was one of the first high end bicycles that I acquired and, as you might expect, I found it at the dump.

Canadian Peugeots are wonderful riding and beautifull crafted bicycles. I have owned and still do own several and one in particular proved to be a collection favorite. It is featured on my web site. I used the bicycle, a black Peugeot "Super Sport", for commuting to and from work for one season and it was a great ride. Of all the bicycles I have owned, the Super Sport had the longest wheel base and rode like it was on rails. I sold the bicycle to a fellow in High Rivers, Alberta and he rides it to this day. Yep, I got it at the dump and it still had the price sticker on it, $329.00 CND. What a nice bike! I also have a Canadian made Peugeot "PS28" and it is the fastest bicycle in my collection, I think. Cosmetically, the Shimano 105 equipped bicycle is a disaster but I just can't part with it. I recently acquired a Peugeot "PB14". It seems to be well made, with triple butted chrome moly tubing, but I have not had a chance to check it over and ride it yet. It might become a keeper. I had and sold a Peugeot "PB10" and what a great bicycle it was. I could ride it but it was just a tad too large so I let it go to a fellow in British Columbia. The bicycle was almost mint and a joy to ride. That said, one slip off of the pedals and my wife would be most unhappy... Finally, with respect to Canadian made Peugeots, I have owned and still do own several UO8s. They are great, entry level, bicycles that offer very nice rides. If you ever get the chance to grab one cheap, do so. You won't be disappointed. They are well made and very nice to ride.

I have come across several CCM ten speeds but none that impress me. It has been my pleasure to view one CCM "Tour de Canada" but I have never had the opportunity to ride one so my comments regarding the CCM marque must remain limited. I do hope to acquire a good quality CCM one day and I am ever looking.

Norco is another well known Canadian bicycle and I have two examples of the brand. Both are Norco "Avanti" models and I would expect that they are mid leve quality, at best. I have not had a chance to refurbish or test either one but intend to do so before this riding season is over. With that in mind, once again, my comments are limited.

The more I study Canadian made bicycles the more brands I come across. I have a few Velo Sports and these were very nice bicycles to ride. I recently sold an almost mint Velo Sport "Criterium" to a fellow in the US. The bike was rare, by Velo Sport standards, but just a bit too big for me to ride. I presently have a Velo Sport "Prestige" and an "Alpine". The Alpine is cosmetically challanged and will need to be test ridden before I decide what to do with it. The Prestige is a great bike and it is fun to ride.

Appollo is another Canadian brand and the company offered well made bicycles of all levels of quality. I do not own a really good Appollo but I do own a very early, Trevor Deeley head badged model which I am hanging on to just because it is old. I might get around to fixing it up one of these days.

A friend of mine has a beautiful Marioni, a very well know Canadian make, and a Proctor which is not so well known. Both bicycles are interesting and I have tried to get the Proctor but it is his spring ride and he refuses to part with it. Again, my eyes are ever looking...

That about sums up my experience with Canadian made bicycles. They are fast becoming the focus of my collection and I always on the lookout for the next neat CMB(Canadian Made Bicycle).

I have to make a decision regarding my web site. It is full and the band width is inadequate. If I am going to expand the site I must start spending money on it and I think that I will do just that. I have had a lot of people contact me for information regarding different Canadian made bicycles and I have done my best to assist with their quests for information. One of the first topics I would like to share is how to roughly estimate the vintage of a lightweight road bicycle. I will be asking for help and input when that time comes. I do hope that some of you will be willing to assist with information.


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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by Reggie on 5/3/2007 at 7:05:36 AM
I have an Alpine road bike that I purchased about 13 years ago. I am trying to find info on it but I am not having much luck. It is equipped with Shimano 105 brakes, nitto bars and neck and is a chrome moly frame. It is a very nice, fast and responsive road bike. Do you know if the company was purchased or did they just go out of business. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by pana on 7/2/2007 at 10:34:38 AM
hi i just got a godin road bike carrera azzuro with a columbus matrix frame
and i am trying to find some background info about this bike
is this a good bike to spend some money to keep it on rolling?
it has campagniolo parts on it
thanks
Pana
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          RE: Velo Sport Alpin and Appalache bikesposted by Stephane Lapointe on 10/13/2007 at 12:47:03 AM
About your Velo Sport Alpin bike, I own a Velo Sport Appalache wich is a very similar model. The 18 speed Alpin was retailing for about $385 in 1982, the 12 speed Appalache was about $355. I was 16 years old when I bought my Apalache in 1982, I couldn't afford the Alpin. Both bikes came with front/rear racks and fenders, same beige color, different derailleur. It may sound weird but I still use my Apalache for bike trips (fully loaded with camping gears) and just this summer I made about 1000km on Quebec's bike paths. Those bikes are very tough and reliable. Still have the original gears and wheels ! The company still exist. The Velo Sport brand was dropped when Pro-Cycle bought the Peugeot rights for Canada. Then the bikes were named the Peugeot Appalache and Alpin. I am surprised at how little information there is on the net about those bikes. They were quite popular with the early '80s road trekkers, along with the Mikado's, Lugger gears, long hair dudes.
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by shaun on 12/2/2007 at 9:23:32 PM
Hey i just picked up a columbus tubed LeCroco with shimano 105 group . I was told it was a handmade canadian bike . however i cant find any info on the frame builder or anything about the bike . thanks for any replies


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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: 'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by stillthere on 5/9/2008 at 5:29:13 PM

I have a Velo Sport Pyrenees mountain bike, hardtail. Blue 18" (45cm) chrome-moly frame. DBS frame technology. It is indeed a fun and smooth ride. Still original components.


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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: 'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by stillthere on 5/9/2008 at 5:32:56 PM
I have a Velo Sport Pyrenees mountain bike. hardtail, cromo 18" DBS frame. Nice ride. Original components.


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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by adam on 10/25/2008 at 10:40:06 PM
i have recently came across a Canadian bike. ive never herd of the brand. you seem to be the person to ask from reading your blog. FIY i know little about bikes!!! esp tour bikes. from what i can tell its says its a Bertrand cb3000 looks about 20 to 30 years old and says its hand made. its a well crafted bike and ill send you a pic a.s.a.p. hope you cane give me some incite. THANK YOU :-) Adam
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:���'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by Jeff on 3/16/2009 at 7:49:32 PM
I have a Sekine bicycle that I no longer ride and would like to sell it. Any suggestions? I'm not sure of the model number...can you tell me if the model number is stamped someplace on the bike?

Thanks

Jeff
Toronto
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by Dan on 6/10/2009 at 9:42:28 AM
Hello! I just picked up a Canadian made (by VeloSport) 1982 Peugeot PS 22 with full Shimano 600 groupo and a Biopace chainring. It's mostly pink but in decent shape. I'm going to clean it up.....a lot of dirt and sawdust on it.... but minimal rust. Looks like it was probably a decent bike in it's day. Not sure what I'll do with it yet, but since I have too many bikes already I'll probably sell it, but I have no clue how much to ask. Cheers!
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          RE:RE:A:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by sahil on 1/29/2010 at 12:56:47 PM
hi...i have a canadian made old road bike named "fleetwing"...but i have no info about the company.it has shimano gears.its a very good bike,light weight and fast...is it a good bike?whats the company name?can u please help?
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by Ella Gilks on 7/4/2010 at 8:09:24 AM
I have an Italian-made Gardin "Loria", in very good condition. I paid $600-$700 CA in mid-1980's. Any idea what the asking price should be?
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by Garry on 8/23/2010 at 6:36:14 AM
I have two CCM bicycles, CCM Elite His & Hers. They are both in near mint condition and wonder what value they might carry.
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by jj on 8/24/2010 at 3:40:07 AM
>> I have two CCM bicycles, CCM Elite His & Hers. They are both in near mint condition and wonder what value they might carry.

Check the two Price Guides at the top of any page here at OldRoads.com

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          RE:AGE / VALUE: 'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by cb3000 on 12/29/2010 at 4:48:13 AM
i love cb3000 too.
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by Troy on 5/9/2011 at 6:54:24 PM
I just found a Velo Sport Prestige in the Garbage, very happy with the find all the 600 shimano EX Arabesque are still in great shape. Not sure of year, never looked too much for identification
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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:'Canadien' Pro-Ten?posted by Troy on 5/9/2011 at 6:56:05 PM
I just found a Velo Sport Prestige in the Garbage, very happy with the find all the 600 shimano EX Arabesque are still in great shape. Not sure of year, never looked too much for identification
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