All pictures and text in these pages are (c)2010 Menotomy Vintage Bicycles, Inc.(tm) and may not be
used in any form without written permission from Menotomy Vintage Bicycles, Inc.(tm).
messages for: Lightweight Discussions
AGE / VALUE: Birmingham AMF Herculesposted by: Gralyn
on 1/21/2010 at 2:00:38 PM
I've been trying to figure out my old Hercules bicycle. This is the bike I bought over 10 years ago - and it got me going on the old vintage bike thing. But, I haven't been able to figure it out exactly. I would really like to find out what the bike was originally, how it looked, how it was equipped, etc. But so far - I haven't been able to find it. It has a lugged frame. The lugs look kind of filed-down - they are not real fancy, but they are not plain. The geometry is really relaxed, it fits 26 inch wheels very well. 27" wheels are close - but they do fit well enough. 700C's would probably fit better. Horizontal stamped dropouts. It has a brass-looking head badge - with Hercules, and Birmingham. It has been painted several times. I was trying to strip off some of the paint so I could re-paint it (over 10 years ago)....I was able to determine that it was originally black. I also found an AMF logo. But, I have not been able to find this AMF logo anywhere. From what I can recall - it was a round circle, with maybe a triangle....and maybe a star....and letters A....and M.......and F.......and it wasn't a sticker - it looked like a transfer, or paint. It has no braze-ons anywhere on the frame. It has a serial number on the back side of the seat tube, up near the top. It is numbers only (1728157). I have had a few AMF Hercules bikes (10-speeds) - but they were Nottingham, and had foil decals....and had letters A,M,F spaced going down the seat tube. So far as I know - just the Raleighs had the serial number on the back of the seat tube. Per the Raleigh serial numbers - it would date it to 1970. With it having the AMF logo - it would have to be no older than 1960. So, maybe it's a Birmingham Raleigh-made Hercules, distributed by AMF - and it was made sometime between 1960 and 1970. But, I would like to see what it was originally. Single speed? 3-speed? 5-speed? 10-speed? I would also like to see this AMF logo. I really can't remember as it was over 10 years ago.....but I'm pretty sure it was a round logo with AMF in it. I haven't seen this logo anywhere.
If someone has a similar bike - or has a bike with an AMF logo similar to what I described - please let me know. I would like to see a picture of it. I have been searching on-line and I have not been able to find this AMF logo. by: 184.108.40.206
Replies: RE:AGE / VALUE: Birmingham AMF Herculesposted by Gralyn on 1/21/2010 at 2:34:05 PM
Oh, something else to add: It has fender eyelets on the rear drop-outs - just behind the axle......which was consistent with Raleigh-made 3-speeds. by: 220.127.116.11
RE:AGE / VALUE: Birmingham AMF Herculesposted by Joe on 1/25/2010 at 5:59:25 AM
Raleigh took over Hercules in 1960, the AMF distributorship deal was with Raleigh. So your bike is post 1960, Raleigh built. I'm not sure if some were still built at Birmingham or not, but I have a 1970 AMF Hercules out back that has similar markings as you describe. The common AMF logo is a water slide decal, a circle around a triangle with the letters AMF. I've also seen some plain AMF triangle logos as well on earlier models. The foil decals are most likely late 60's to very early 70's. All of these I've seen had Raleigh pattern fenders, long reach steel side pull calipers and 26 x 1 3/8" wheels. I've seen these in single, three, and five speed models. These were sold by retail stores not bike shops but were indeed British built bikes. They were on par with a Robin Hood, or any of the other many Raleigh built sub brands. Just about all of the AMF Hercules bikes I've seen after about 1967 had off white reflective tape bands on the fork blades and foil bands on the seat tube. Got any pics? by: 18.104.22.168
RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Birmingham AMF Herculesposted by Gralyn on 1/25/2010 at 7:55:05 AM
I have some of those Hercules bikes from the later 1960's....with the foil decals and reflective tape. But, I believe this one is a little different from those. It did have that AMF logo you described. Mine was certainly made in Birmingham, no Nottingham. Could you send me a picture of that AMF logo? by: 22.214.171.124
RE:AGE / VALUE: Birmingham AMF Herculesposted by Ari on 4/16/2010 at 12:13:12 PM
Hii im from indonesia Please i want info from my old bike cycle? the logo is The speed fittings birmingham! and frame number is 5089 please i want info how old this bikes! Thank yu so much^^
stop 11/11/11 vinvin new forum -->
We have migrated this discussion to our new forum at OldRoadsForums.com.