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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Phillips Roadsters posted by: Tim on 10/28/2009 at 6:45:33 PM
Good evening, I was comparing two Phillips 22" rod brake roadster frames I've found. One has more upright/steeper seat-tube and head-tube angles and a different fork crown, the Sturmey AW hub it came with has no date code. I was wondering if there was a rough year they changed the angles?
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          RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Phillips Roadstersposted by Steve on 10/29/2009 at 3:31:00 AM
Sounds like a possible mid 30's type of thing to me !

Steve
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          RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Phillips Roadstersposted by Matthew on 10/29/2009 at 12:25:17 PM
Keith Body will have the answer to this old chestnut as he has done so before.

Matthew - by degrees
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          RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Phillips Roadstersposted by Keith Body on 10/29/2009 at 4:00:46 PM
Hi Tim, Steve and Matthew. Can't remember what reasons I gave previously. In the late 1930's most UK makers changed roadster production to 26 inch wheels and angles in the 69/70 degree area, and most production changed to fully brazed frames with forward facing rear fork ends, for the UK market, and by the early 1950's the 28 inch wheel bikes were rarely sold. The 1920 designs (67 degree-ish) were produced by TI Raleigh in possibly hundreds of different names for export until the UK factories closed. Also manufactured and/or assembled in various countries. By 1960 Phillips were better known in the UK as standard parts manufacturers, selling to the wholesale trade for distribution to retailers. TI/Raleigh needed to make a million bikes a year to keep going.
My memory could be a little corrupt here.
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