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WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8 posted by: Henk Sneyders de Vogel on 1/8/2010 at 5:08:35 AM
Hello,
Can any-one tell me if Westwood rims are available somewhere, new or old, in the 28x1 3/8 size? I need a 36-holes. I allready found one Rigida and I'd like to lace the rear wheel. I've seen plenty off 26x1 3/8 on the net, especially in China and India(minimum order 1000pc),England and Holland, but no 28'.
Thanks for help.
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          RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 1/8/2010 at 6:10:01 AM
Hmmm.... you sure you want 1 3/8" width? Standard width for 28" Westwood rim would be 1 1/2".... as is on my DL-1 and my Abley machines.

If that's the case, yellowjersey (they sell Eastman machines)

http://www.yellowjersey.org/EASTMAN.HTML

and Flying Pidgeon

http://flyingpigeon-la.com/

should have what you're looking for. If not, they may have infor pertaining to the 1 3/8" wide rims.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - I could use a good 28 X 1 1/2" SNOW tyre about now....
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          RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Henk Sneyders de Vogel on 1/8/2010 at 9:31:39 AM
Hello, Larry,
Yes, you red me wright, it's the 28x1 3/8 to fit 700A tires, ERTRO-size 37-642. So it's not only the width but also the circumference that's different, 7mm. bigger.
Thanks for giving the adress, I'll have a go, allthough I've tried this already a lot of times.
I'll let you know when they answer me. Till soon, Henk

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          RE:RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 1/8/2010 at 10:31:47 AM
Hmmm... well that is a bit of a rarity then methinks. LOL... I have enough of a time sourcing 28 X 1 1/2" stuff so I can only imagine!

Best of luck finding them!

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - It's that extra 1/8"
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          RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by sam on 1/8/2010 at 5:57:48 PM
Seems I recall a lot of Australian bikes used that size.
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          RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Matthew on 1/9/2010 at 2:44:05 AM
Methinks that a 28 X 1 3/8 tyre would have the same rolling radius as a 28 X 1 1/2 tyre but that rims sizes would be different due to tyre wall depth. However would a 700C tyre fit the larger rim? (that is the narrower but larger radius).

Time to look at Sheldon's rim chart?

http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html#fraction

28 X 1 1/2 English, Dutch, Chinese, Indian Rod-brake roadsters (Also marked F10, F25, 700 B)

28 X 1 5/8 (NOTE 5/8) Northern European designation for the 622 mm (700 C) size

Sadly 28 X 1 3/8 is not listed by Sheldon. That would concern me; if it isn't on his chart I doubt it exists.

Matthew - international man of mediocrity


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          RE:RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Warren on 1/9/2010 at 8:08:18 AM
Just to mix it all up, there was a 28 x 1 3/8 rim...it was the same as a K2 or 27 1/4. And the same 28 x 1 5/8 rim (700c) was sold in Canada as 28 X 1 1/2 and 28 x 1 3/8. These were genuine Dunlop stamped rims.

Sheldon didn't list these rims but we had discussed it years ago. There were many oddball international sizes that didn't make the website...too obscure. However these rims were plentiful here in NA.
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          RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by JS on 1/9/2010 at 8:31:58 AM
Henk-

I live in China, I have never seen the size you are referring too. I take it by your name that maybe...just maybe..you live in Holland. If you can't find it there either, it is really not looking good for availability.

Can you fill us in a little more on the project? Maybe we can suggest a interesting alternative?

JS

http://www.flyingpigeonproject.org
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          RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Warren on 1/9/2010 at 1:52:22 PM
oops...700c those Dunlops were 28 x 1 1/2 and 28 x 1 3/4...
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          RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by David on 1/10/2010 at 10:31:02 AM
I suggest that you determine the ISO bead seat diameter and proceed from there using the "new" standard size designations. The old French, English, American, European size designations are too ambiguous. Read Sheldon's page on tire sizing.


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          RE:RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by jj on 1/10/2010 at 5:02:53 PM
This is the link:
http://oldroads.com/tirerim.asp


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          RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Henk Sneyders de Vogel on 1/11/2010 at 2:49:59 PM
JS and others,
My origins are Dutch and since 6 years I live in the south of France. Last year I bought a 1910 Peugeot-racer with dropping toptube. The wheels weren't original and I found out that it should be 700A= 28x1 3/8= 32 or 37-642. I've got one rim and I've bought a pair of tires in the good size. There are several producers, some in Australia, in Italy, but I can't find anyone that produces the rims.
As long as we don't use the ERTRO-sizes, 37-642 in this case, there will allways be confusion about the sizes.
Thanks for the help untill know.
Till soon, Henk
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          RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Henk Sneyders de Vogel on 1/11/2010 at 2:55:15 PM
JS and others,
My origins are Dutch and since 6 years I live in the south of France. Last year I bought a 1910 Peugeot-racer with dropping toptube. The wheels weren't original and I found out that it should be 700A= 28x1 3/8= 32 or 37-642. I've got one rim and I've bought a pair of tires in the good size. There are several producers, some in Australia, in Italy, but I can't find anyone that produces the rims.
As long as we don't use the ERTRO-sizes, 37-642 in this case, there will allways be confusion about the sizes.
Thanks for the help untill know.
Till soon, Henk
by: 83.205.190.120

          RE:RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Thomas on 1/13/2010 at 3:21:13 AM
Hi Henk,
just found your message about the 700A (37-642)tires. I am looking for such tires here in Austria quite a long time - maby you can help me and give me the contact-info to the producers in Europe - you wrote that thera are several..
Thanks very much for your help in advance!
best regards, Tom. (twp(at)gmx.at)
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          RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by ChristopherRobin on 1/13/2010 at 7:02:28 PM
Hello everybody

yes 26 x 1 3/8 steel westwood rims are real and not imagined

you find them on old hercules bikes phillips bikes all pre Raleigh takeover stuff look on u.k e- bay and at the cycle jumble and on bikes in old shops I loved to put modern gumwall tires and high pressure tubes on these rims with old school Sturmey Archer F.W. and F.M. four speed hubs and ride like hell up the the local dairy queen for a hot fudge sundae ice cream cone

Had both sizes of wheels in many bikes.

For the record: Westwood rims came in 16, 22, 24, 26 inch and 28 inch sizes

The Raleigh Sports and other comparable bikes bikes came in westwood and westwick pattern wheels

westrick or raleigh pattern rims were a cross between a standard Endrick or cable brake type rim and a westwood full rod brake only rim

so, 26 and 28 inch wheel rod brake bikes also appeared with these hybrid Westrick or Raleigh pattern rims

these could take either the cable or rod brake set up

just keep looking it's out there and worth finding any questions contact me off list or here in a post.

humberchristopher29@hotmail.com
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          RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Chris on 1/13/2010 at 7:17:47 PM
Really, just find an old bike for sale on u.k e- bay that has these rims

Sometimes the proper way to find something is just too difficult
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          RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Henk on 1/16/2010 at 7:17:58 AM
Chris,
That's a good idea, that's why I follow everyday Ebay.aus and -.uk, but untill know nothing. That's already some six months that I lok that closely.
BUT I found a pair; someone needed old 'Westwood'(chapeau de gendarme in France)rims 700C=28x1 5/8x1 3/8, so I could make an exchange.
Still, if someone has information, let me please know because more people are searching.
Thanks a lot for the help upto now!!!
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          RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Matthew on 1/22/2010 at 10:44:45 AM
eBay item 220544832789

tyres not rims but might be of interest.

Matthew - bay watch
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          RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by J Ullƒig on 8/23/2010 at 6:35:55 AM
Hi you all, haven't been here for like 6 years, glad still alive and kicking!

Here the nice 28in 635mm Rigida rims that Henk Sneyders de Vogel mentioned

STEEL:
http://www.rigida.com/en/products/single-wall-rims/straight-sided/v38-steel-4

ALLOY:
http://www.rigida.com/en/products/single-wall-rims/straight-sided/v38-alloy

STAINLESS STEEL:
http://www.rigida.com/en/products/single-wall-rims/stainless-steel/st32
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          RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   Westwood rim 28x1 3/8posted by Dustin on 12/7/2010 at 12:05:06 PM
I have found a Phillips bicycle with the lion and red back ground. It was built in nottingham. vin number 132. Im in the blue as to the value of this bike. Its an air flow cruiser design and is a very unusual bike. Please help me out.
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