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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Wartime colours posted by: John on 2/2/2010 at 7:42:53 AM
Hi, I'm hoping that someone can help me with some advice about a bike I'm about to start restoring.

It's a 1940 English 3 speed, which has been in the same family since new. The guy I bought it from said that it had a respray back in the 60's, and he remembers it having black rims. The bike now has heavily tarnished chrome handlebars. What I need to find out, as I want to get it looking as authentic as possible, is, if it had black rims, would it have had black handlebars, cranks and spokes as well, or would these parts still have been chrome?

It's an English bike in England, so really I need to know what bicycles in the UK looked like during the war.

Many thanks!

          RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Wartime coloursposted by Matthew on 2/2/2010 at 11:19:09 AM
Hi John,

Welcome. The 'All weather' models were generally equipped with no chrome. However a 1940 bike was possibly built in the first few months of the war and might not have had 'All weather' specification as the stock of standard parts were used up. Painted rims were not that uncommon; for example trade bikes pre-war didn't often come with chrome rims.

A good photo will tell us a great deal more.

Matthew - a real 'All weather' model.

          RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Wartime coloursposted by John on 2/2/2010 at 4:05:22 PM
I'll work on a photo, it's buried in the shed at the moment but probably wouldn't show a great deal. It's definately had new rims at some point but looks to have the original components, including handlebars with makers name. I think you could well be right that they were using up old stock but when I have the wheels built (I have a knack of spending too much on my restorations!) I'm wondering whether to use black spokes or chrome. More to the point, what's everyones opinion on which would look best on the basis I rent my bikes to tv companies and this would become my 'stock' ww2 bike complete with blackout light! :-)

          RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Wartime coloursposted by John on 2/2/2010 at 4:16:50 PM
Just to put an image in your minds by the way, it's a rusty dark blue Phillips ladies sit up and beg. It has its original Brooks saddle which is badly worn and will have to be repaired or replaced. It's complete from what I can tell except it has no chainguard so will probably end up with an oil bath. Single speed, rod brakes, lots of rust :-) Needless to say I like a challenge!!

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