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AGE / VALUE:   Firestone Pilot posted by: mach 1 on 1/4/2006 at 2:25:38 AM

Hello all.

I have in my basement a Firestone Pilot with balloon tires. It's just been restored with new paint (professionally done at a body shop), all new chrome and a new seat. The serial number is 8H192674.

Any idea on the age of this thing ?.. or a rough value ?

Thanks in advance.
Anthony.
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Firestone Pilotposted by Marc on 1/4/2006 at 5:28:09 PM
Firestone pilots would have been made by a few bicycle makers, dayton, colson to name two. Restored bikes will usually not hold the value of the restoration as the cost of it is usually more than it will be worth after the resto. Post a pic and someone on the list should be able to tell you the maker and a market value.
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          RE:AGE / VALUE: Firestone Pilotposted by Scott on 1/5/2006 at 9:21:56 AM
I have a bunch of Huffman/Dayton bikes one of which is a "Firestone Pilot". If you post or send a picture maybe I can help identify it for you. I will post an ad, hopefully you can see it. if you click on it, it will enlarge.


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          RE:AGE / VALUE: Firestone Pilotposted by Scott on 1/5/2006 at 9:26:37 AM
sorry here it is.


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Firestone Pilotposted by mach 1 on 1/6/2006 at 2:57:31 AM
Thanks for the fast replies.

Pretty neat ad. It doesnt look like the pilot in that pic though, it doesnt have one of those "gas tank" things, it actually looks more like the "Warrior". But it says Pilot on the front badge.

Unfortunately my digital camera gave up the ghost the other day so I'll have to take a polaroid (crude, I know) and scan it. I'll have it posted in a day or 2.

Thanks,
Anthony
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          RE:AGE / VALUE: Firestone Pilotposted by scott on 1/6/2006 at 6:10:36 AM
try this one from 1939. this one is made by Colson.


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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Firestone Pilotposted by mach 1 on 1/7/2006 at 1:45:08 AM
Ok, heres a couple pics of it. I hope this will help. Sorry for the poor quality, but you get the idea.

Thanks,
Anthony


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          RE:AGE / VALUE: Firestone Pilotposted by scott on 1/7/2006 at 2:09:07 AM
definitely a Monark!
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Firestone Pilotposted by mach 1 on 1/7/2006 at 3:15:31 AM
Thank you, scott. So Monark is the company that made it? Is that what you mean? How old would it hafta be then?

Thanks,
Anthony
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          RE:AGE / VALUE: Firestone Pilotposted by scott on 1/9/2006 at 11:17:18 PM
ok, after reconsideration I have decided I was kinda in error on your bike. though it has Monark parts it is a Huffy frame. the problem is Huffy bought Monark in the late '50s-early '60s. they then proceded to use up the parts on bikes. possibly this is one of these. what tire size does your bike use? if it is a middleweight it is probably from the early '60s. again it is possible that during its life it has acumulated these parts, say you had the old pilot and found a Monark girls bike in good shape, at 12 years old you might transfer parts and not look back. so you have a few possibilities but no clear cut answers. hope this is helpful. and really part of your bikes charm is this odd turn of events in history that produced bikes with mixed parts. as far as Firestone goes they never made their own bikes, they always contracted with another company and then put their badge on them. for what its worth I would guess your bike to be very late '50s to very early '60s before Huffy used up all the old Monark parts. the year they bought Monark I'm not sure of but it was right there somewhere. perhaps someone will if they know.
Scott
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Firestone Pilotposted by rod on 1/10/2006 at 9:34:20 PM
Years ago I found an old blue-&-white Firestone girl's frame that was so badly rusted that the chainguard could not be saved for the rust heavily overshadowed the decal as well as bubbled on the off-white rims w/ rear Perry coaster hub. By also owning a red '62 Monark El Camino made me wonder about Huffy's purchasing of the company; the three Huffy factors that stood out were: 1) the five-star sprocket chainring, 2) the headlight tank & aged white bezel (identical to those of my '64 Huffy Galaxie except w/ a black bezel), and 3) the serial # gathered from the serial # charts on this site. Thanks Scott, you're the source I was looking for when I posted topics regarding to the two bikes last spring!
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          RE:AGE / VALUE: Firestone Pilotposted by scott on 1/11/2006 at 3:16:22 AM
after buying Monark I believe Huffy kept putting out bikes under the monark name, so you will occasionally find Huffys with Monark parts and Monarks made by Huffy with Huffy parts. same holds true for when AMF bought up what was left of Colson and Cleveland welding.
Glad this could be helpful.
Scott
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Firestone Pilotposted by mach 1 on 1/12/2006 at 3:49:14 AM
Thanks scott for your reply. yes you were very helpful seeing as how I knew nothing of this bike, now I have an idea of what I got and also some background info. I guess its just like a classic car, you never know how many times its changed hands, and how many parts its accumulated over the years. Anyway, it certainly is a cool bike whoever made it! Oh, and in response to your question, the tire size is 26x2.125 if that helps.

Thanks again,
Anthony
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          RE:AGE / VALUE: Firestone Pilotposted by scott on 1/12/2006 at 6:11:28 PM
the larger tire size makes me lean toward earlier since the tendency in the '60s was toward the middleweight bikes with 26"x1.75" tires. again my guess is late '50s, Huffy made, probably correct parts. at that time both bikes were very nice looking bikes. I don't mean to knock Schwinn but I prefer something not quite so common myself, and you have quite a story for yours. also go to nostalgic.net and look at the pictures of the fifties Huffys and Monarks. it's a great site for pictures and ads.
thanx.
Scott

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          RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Firestone Pilotposted by Bea on 6/25/2008 at 1:07:23 PM
Value of a Pilot Firestone bike.
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          RE:AGE / VALUE:   Firestone Pilot,Wards Hawthorneposted by David B. Clemons on 1/28/2010 at 9:27:28 AM
I have two bikes that were my mother's. Just uncovered them in a garage to be torn down. The 1st bicycle is a Firestone Pilot womens serial number 19068
FCH. The bearings are still smooth rolling.
The 2nd bike is a Wards Hawthorne serial # C282909.
I would really appreciate any info available. I am going to restore these bikes for family use.
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          RE:AGE / VALUE: Monark Pilotposted by Alice on 8/30/2011 at 4:10:34 PM
We have a 1951 Monark Pilot bicycle. The serial number is A19861. I found out from local bicycle shop that it was built 11/15/1951. Can you please give me a ballpark figure of what it might be worth? Any help would be greatly appreciated. It belonged to my Father-in-law who recently passed away.
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