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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

WANTED:   parts needed posted by: wayne on 10/8/2000 at 3:51:23 PM
i have a 1954 schwinn panther, i need both fenders,tires and rims horn assembly and the part that the handle bars slide into to and fits into the neck. also the decals that go on the chain guard and frame any other parts would be a great help such as lights rear racks seat

   RE:WANTED:   parts needed posted by rd on 10/8/2000 at 6:38:03 PM
Memory lane had athe decals. I just purchased some from them.

AGE / VALUE:   Old Roadmaster? posted by: Steve Ockler on 10/8/2000 at 8:20:43 AM
I recently scrounged an old ladies bicycle at a yard sale. Skiptooth chain, rear hub says "Eclipse Machine Division", "Made in Elmira, NY. U.S.A.", "1-3 36 13", Coaster Brake lever says "Morrow" written in script.
No headbadge and I have not been able to find a serial number.

Rear hub has adjuster bolts and lower tabs of the slots that the rear hub sits in(dropouts,I think they are called) are bent out. I thought they were damaged but they are bent exactly the same on both sides.

I saw pictures of an old Roadmaster on one of the websites and it had the same bent out tabs below the rear hub.

It also has a "Feather" style chainguard.

Can anyone help me identify it if it is a Roadmaster? Does anyone have any idea what it is if it is not a Roadmaster?

Some kind soul has painted the entire bike, including rims, with an ugly, flat red paint, so I don't know what the original color was.

Thanks in advance

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Old Roadmaster? posted by Gordon on 10/8/2000 at 10:30:51 AM
The frame parts you describe are the stops for the rear folddown kickstand. This dates your bike as being built before WWII. As to what manufacture, that is impossible to say with the info you have provided. A description of the chain ring pattern would be helpful, and of course a picture is worth a thousand words.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Old Roadmaster? posted by rd on 10/8/2000 at 2:25:21 PM
take the fork off or maybe just the front fender and you may be able to tell the color.

AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Impalla posted by: Mort on 10/7/2000 at 2:14:51 PM
I just picked up a Huffy Impalla at the Super Flea. I'm wondering how old it might be and whether it's of any particular value, apart from being a swell ride. Any thoughts on how to get an appropriate saddle would be great too. It has a brown Columbia saddle now and it kind of diminishes the effect.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Impalla posted by Carl on 10/9/2000 at 5:39:24 AM
Tire size can help you get an idea of it's age. Generally a 26 x 1.75 would be between 1955 and 1969, while 26 x 2.125 would be 1930 to 1955.

FOR SALE:   1957 SCHWINN "DUBUTANTE" posted by: STEVE on 10/5/2000 at 7:13:42 PM

   RE:FOR SALE:   1957 SCHWINN posted by Kevin C. on 10/8/2000 at 2:10:23 PM
I recently saw a Schwinn Debutante in so-so condition sell for $75. It was pink and white, and had the tank but it was missing the horn button and horn assembly. The rest of the bike was original, even down to the dry-rotted tires.

FOR SALE:   62 Traveller posted by: Mark on 10/5/2000 at 3:37:17 PM
You need this great project bike. Complete 62 Traveller, except for fenders. Somebody please give me some lunch money for it.

   RE:FOR SALE:   62 Traveller posted by racerrex on 10/6/2000 at 1:18:26 PM
I might be interested but prefer not to ship . What part of the country are you in?

BALLOON:   Another X-1 question (he he) posted by: Jim on 10/4/2000 at 10:35:23 PM
I have no desire to make a copy of Pee Wees' bike ( being that I look quite like him) but those steel pantiers ( luggage holders) caught my eye. Any idea where they come from? Hand hammered for the movie? Possibly scooter units?

   RE:BALLOON:   Another X-1 question (he he) posted by Kevin C. on 10/5/2000 at 6:35:53 AM
When he's locking up his bike outside the bike shop, with yards and yards of chain, watch closely. You can see that there is no bottom in the pannier, and that the chain is uncoiling THROUGH it. To answer your question, I have no idea what such panniers were for originally. I'd never seen any on a bicycle before.

   RE:BALLOON:   Another X-1 question (he he) posted by Glenn P. on 10/5/2000 at 6:55:20 AM
Those hard saddlebags look to be made from an old Mercury outboard motor cover that was split in half. Cool Idea anyway. Hmmmmmmm.


Glenn P.
Portland, Oregon

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Another X-1 question (he he) posted by Joel on 10/5/2000 at 8:41:11 AM
I remember reading somewhere that they were from a Honda motorcycle. I like the outboard motor theory. Will have to have another look next trip to the video store.

   RE:BALLOON:   Another X-1 question (he he) posted by Glenn P. on 10/6/2000 at 7:55:00 AM
My only problem is that whenever "The Big Adventure" is broadcast, I can't pull myself away. Kind of the same with the Three Stooges. I think I'm sick. Need professional help for my immature nature. He He. They're coming to take me away. I need to get my two WF X-53s together to pacify myself. Prescription doesn't seem to be working anymore.

Glenn P.
Portland, Oregon

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Another X-1 question (he he) posted by Jim on 10/7/2000 at 10:15:28 PM
X-53s, gotta love the sheet metal on those rides, Wild stuff. BTW I got that monark finished so if your planning a ride in the future just let me know. ( is starting to get a bit cold though)

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Princeton bicycle posted by: brian on 10/3/2000 at 10:06:38 PM
My neighbor recently found a bicycle in an old barn. The plate attached to the frame under the handlebars says "Princeton." Anybody out there know anything about this make of bicycle? This one looks to be from the 30's-40's era. It has a shock in the front forks, and an original rack behind the seat. It's a male bicycle.Could be a balloon tire bicycle, but I didn't measure the tire size. Thanks, Brian.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Princeton bicycle posted by Franco on 10/4/2000 at 7:34:09 AM
Take a look at the balloon tier bikes in the picture database and tell us which ones it looks like

AGE / VALUE:   Now I know why the rack won't come off posted by: Christopherrobin@starmail.com on 10/3/2000 at 4:20:44 PM
Somebody came in the shop and gave them the bike. The owner gave it to me. It has a crutch tip rear rack so I decided to p[ut it on the other bike I have the one that I ride often. I loosened the boilts and did not understand why it did not fall off. Then I noticed that the lock that came with the bike, the one that came without the key is holding the rack on the frame. I think this is just the way the kept the lock on the bike when it wasn't being used. Now I have to go and get a hack saw and cut it off. I stood there looking at this thing and I just may put on a Pletcher rack and say to heck with it.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Now I know why the rack won't come off posted by racerrex on 10/4/2000 at 8:18:45 AM
I always have bikes coming in with locks that the customer lost the key to. One medium sized set of bolt cutters always sets them free.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Now I know why the rack won't come off posted by ChristopherRobin on 10/4/2000 at 8:33:54 AM
I will have to add a bolt cutter to my assortment of tools.

BALLOON:   Early 1940's Goodyear Marathon posted by: Paul on 10/3/2000 at 3:06:32 PM
Hi, your help would be appreciated. I just looked at an early 1940's Goodyear Marathon 26 inch men's bike locally. It is maroon and cream with remarkably nice original paint! The rear tire is originnal Googyear 26x2.125 blackwall and the front is a replacement. The chrome rims and crank has some light rust and minor pitting. It is a skip tooth, New Departure brakes, rides fine, and has an original cream colored Delta light with missing clear lens on fender. It has no tank and appears to never have had one on it, It has original nice handgrips and the chainguard is slightly bent with paint chips only on chainguard. It has the original rear reflector and original rubber pedals and nice black original Persons seat in very good condition. Is it worth $450 and would it be in demand for resale ever? Thanks. Paul Please post all replys. The headbadge says Goodyear Marathon. I assume it is early 40's only because of the ship tooth.

   RE:BALLOON:   Early 1940's Goodyear Marathon posted by jd on 10/4/2000 at 5:27:25 AM
It might be a Colson built bike, assuming you are correct about the year. But anything less than a Deluxe fully equipped model is certainly not worth $450.

   RE:BALLOON:   Early 1940's Goodyear Marathon posted by Larry L. on 10/4/2000 at 6:59:07 AM
Paul you have a little piece of history. Try to locate some body with some knowlage on classic bicycles. Do some research. WHATS THE RUSH. Scince the bike is still in your possession,or do you just need the money?

MISC:   what type posted by: bicyclepriest on 10/3/2000 at 12:56:20 PM
what up. I am new to the site, but I can tell there is a wealth
of knowledge here. To those who have seen Pee-Wee's Big Adventure.
What type of bicycle does he have? I'm thinking it is an
old Elgin Skylark because of the wheel skirts. Any ideas?

   RE:MISC:   what type posted by Joel on 10/3/2000 at 2:24:15 PM
There has been much discussion on this site about the Pee Wee bike. Search the archives for details. There were several bikes used in the movie and as I recall they were built from 50s Schwinn and Hiawatha bikes and parts from other bikes, motorcycles, ...

   RE:RE:A lot of people like you Pee Wee and they dig the bike. But I really hate you, Big Time posted by Christopherrobin@starmail.com on 10/3/2000 at 4:35:56 PM
Some people do not like circus clowns. With me,it is Pee Wee Herman! I can't stand him. I force myself to watch because of the bike and I get a shudder down my back and sit there in horror every time I see this character.Even now I feel nausious, I hope someone does a web page on Pee Wee's bike and tells everyone where to get the parts. Perhaps someone should sell the parts that were on the bike. A Pee Wee bike kit? This has been mentioned here before in past threads quite often.Good luck with your project

   RE:MISC:   what type posted by Larry L. on 10/4/2000 at 7:21:26 AM
Welcome to "old roads" Bicycle Priest. You have alot of good information on this site. You will get some good sound advice from alot of people with real expereince. And at times you may come across some body who will share his personal life woes". So go on and ask away, and share your expereinces with us as well.

AGE / VALUE:   f/s posted by: christian on 10/2/2000 at 6:52:35 PM
'63 schwinn crank and sprocket. nice cond.
also, 63' starlet frame, forks, and guard.
nice paint, and decals. fenders are dented.
e-mail or call 1-218-778-0075

BALLOON:   "Gambles" store bikes??? posted by: Darrell on 10/2/2000 at 6:48:40 PM
Did the Gambles Hardware Store chain sell any one line of bicycle and if so who was the manufacturer? The era I'm referring to would be from the 1930's through 1960's.

   RE:BALLOON:    posted by rd on 10/2/2000 at 7:14:25 PM
They sold the hiawatha bike but don't if they sold others.

   RE:BALLOON:    posted by Gordon on 10/2/2000 at 9:20:43 PM
I believe there were several manufacturers of the Hiawatha bikes. One of the ones in the 30's was Shelby - maker of the famous Hiawatha Arrow. I have a feeling that later bikes may have been built Cleveland Welding and eventually either Murray or Huffy.

   RE:BALLOON:    posted by Darrell on 10/3/2000 at 7:07:00 PM
Thanks for the information! Yes, Cleveland Welding built bikes for Hiawatha and Hawthorne as I have one of each, (1950-52 era). The two bikes are very, very, similar and look like the Western Flyer (Cleveland built) of the same period. Catch ya later.

MISC:   Iver Johnson Serial numbers (?) posted by: Dave on 10/1/2000 at 7:18:18 AM
Greeting All !

I was wondering if anyone could point me to a place where I could find serial numbers for Iver Johnson Bikes. I'm trying to date one that I have hanging up in my cellar.

Thanks ' Dave

   RE:MISC:   Iver Johnson Serial numbers (?) posted by Carl on 10/2/2000 at 11:48:26 AM
I've never seen them listed anywhere. I think your best bet would be to look at the Iver Johnsons in the picture database and try to judge your year by looking at similar Iver Johnsons

AGE / VALUE:   Age of Elgin posted by: Ron on 9/30/2000 at 6:26:57 PM
Would like to determine year of Elgin 26" boys bike , serial #86327. Has stops behind rear axle for rear stand

AGE / VALUE:   Road King posted by: Dan on 9/29/2000 at 6:00:20 PM
I have a bike with a Road King name plate in front. It has Schwinn grips and a serial number B77566. Can't find many refernces to the name plate Road King. Not even sure what company made this bike. It has 2.125 Good Year Weather tires chrome fenders and a rack. It also has a nice Troxal Seat. The Bendix hub arm has red lettering. Can anyone shed some light on the Road King name or any other information about this bike? It would be appreciated. Dan

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Road King posted by Grant on 9/30/2000 at 8:50:29 AM
I have a Road King bike from about 1983 and have recently seen
another from about 1960. They were sold by Eaton's which was
one of Canada's leading department store chains for many years.

The store was founded in 1869 and lasted until about 2 years ago.
They sold "Road King" bikes for who knows how long. The bikes
were made by different makers over the years. Yours was possibly
made by Schwinn or assembled in Canada using American parts.
If it is an Eaton Road King the Eaton name should appear on the
emblem on the steering head.