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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

AGE / VALUE:   It's got me again posted by: ChristopherRobin on 12/30/2000 at 8:22:12 AM
Well, I think I've been bitten by the balloon tire bug again. I picked up a N.O.S. nickel plated skip tooth chain for one of my bikes and now I wanna mess about more with old skip tooth bikes.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   It's got me again posted by MNSmith on 1/3/2001 at 7:49:47 PM
Good Man!

AGE / VALUE:   Trade posted by: Robert on 12/28/2000 at 7:33:40 PM
I am interested in trading a 1941 Schwinn DX bike. The bike was home painted to look like original, but I would repaint because it was done poorly. I have everything except the tank for this one. On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd give it a 7, not because it is beat up or incorrect, but because it had been repainted.
I am interested in balloontire bike trades only. Fair trades considered only. If I like your offer I will contact you.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Trade posted by MNSmith on 12/28/2000 at 10:25:55 PM
What are you looking for? Anything in particular?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Trade posted by Robert on 12/29/2000 at 8:17:56 PM
Prewar schwinn preferably. I would be interested in a B6 project, early '50s if decent. I'm flexable. Just no junk bikes. Thanks.

BALLOON:   the year of the bike? and who produce this bike? posted by: Marc Lambert on 12/28/2000 at 5:43:05 PM
Three years ago i bought a bycicle with balloon tires
There is no tag in the front,the headlight is a MILLER
He has a front tire 26x2.125 CONTINENTAL (Extra Prima Cord Balloon)
Made in Germany.And the rear one is a SPECIAL BALLOON TYRE 26X2.125
Front and rear hub: NEW DEPARTURE W and NEW DEPARTURE model D (REAR HUB)
The chainguard was made by ELECTRICAL MFG.CO MONTMAGNY and
the seat was manufactured by A.E.WILBY LTD ,BIRMINGHAM-ENGLAND.
I did not find any serial numbers,and the companie who did the bike?
I purchased the bike in Quebec,Canada.Can you help me to find wich companie
produced this bike and the year of fabrication? Thank you!

AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer posted by: Richard on 12/28/2000 at 4:52:40 PM
This western Flyer has a sticker on the frame That all i could read is Western auto suppy co. the ser#101502 the zero where not strike right soo they look like upside down C than a #mos 2082 It has a tank that 2 lights go into crome fenders and chaingaurd and a book rack on the back with a light at the end.any help in age would be helpful
Im also looking for the light switch for the tank and the front and back lights for this Bike

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer posted by Mike Stone on 12/28/2000 at 5:50:56 PM
Richard, it sounds like you have one of the Murray made bikes from the '60's with built in lights in the tank.

Common for Western Flyer boy's bikes would be the Cosmic Flyer or for girls would have been the Meteor Flite. There were several others which would fit your description.

These designs became available in the late 1950's, but the light in the tank showed up in the early 1960's (about 1963). Murray made similar design bikes for Montgomery Wards and Sears as well as their own Murray lines of similar design.

If your bike has a round red light on the top of the rear carrier, this is what was called the "flight deck" and was found on the Murry made "Hiawatha" of the time. However, the Hiawatha would not have any Western Auto markings.

In my opinion, these bikes are real treasures of the 1950's/1960's space race age. Their sleak designs and futuristic stylings certainly reflected the tastes if the generation of Americans which watched man first step foot on the moon.


AGE / VALUE:   1954 schwinn spitfire posted by: gary on 12/28/2000 at 1:58:39 PM
I would like to know the value of this bike serial #PO6345. It is in very good condition and everything is orignal.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1954 schwinn spitfire posted by Robert on 12/28/2000 at 7:32:21 PM
Hi Gary. I bought a green '55 spitfire with tank last year for $350.00 at a swapmeet in San Diego, CA. On a scale of 1 to 10, I give it a "8". Hope this helps.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1954 schwinn spitfire posted by dave on 12/30/2000 at 5:44:16 PM
Robert is right on with that value. I paid about $375 a year ago for my original 1955 deLuxe Hornet with a Spitfire badge. Then I spent $200 for re-pop wheels/tires. It is my strongest rider, and my "parade bike" with pirate flags and saddlebags.

BALLOON:   age and valueRoyal Master/Sky Pilot posted by: Bruce King on 12/26/2000 at 1:41:24 PM
I recently cleaned up an old Royal Master/Sky Pilot. Iwas wondering if you could give me an age and value for the same.The fenders are chrome and the bike has a tank that contains a horn.There is also a carrier over the rear fender.Everything is in good shape and original,except for new wide white tires 26/2.125.Thanks

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   what is it posted by: Rick Bowen on 12/24/2000 at 2:40:24 PM
found a womens middleweight 60's or 70's chain guard says westpoint on it. bike is blue with blue fenders has basket. can anyone tell me what I'm dealing with/ thank you

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   what is it posted by aaron on 1/20/2001 at 11:26:41 PM
I have a west point mens 26 inch crome bike with red tank. i believe that they were made by huffy or murry and were sold at hardware stores and department stores. Mine is a mid wieght and is early 1960s. hope this helps match the sprocket with sprockets in the data base pictures that will help

AGE / VALUE:   rolling rock schwinn posted by: tom on 12/24/2000 at 12:59:01 PM
Does anyone know how many of the rolling rock beer promo. bikes were made, when produced & current value of one in mint un-ridden condition ? thanks, tom.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   rolling rock schwinn posted by ffej on 12/27/2000 at 12:47:37 PM
search the archives here

AGE / VALUE:   BLACK PHANTOM posted by: CAP on 12/21/2000 at 11:58:58 AM

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   BLACK PHANTOM posted by Gordon on 12/23/2000 at 9:39:46 PM
Check on the frame just above the rear axle (left rear dropout). Date codes are located at this site. If you can't figure it, post the number and someone will help you. Serial numbers changed from the crank to the dropout in 1952.

WANTED:   Schwinn S7 26" rims posted by: Eric on 12/21/2000 at 11:46:47 AM
I need some help for a friend. He is looking for a set of 26"x1 3/4" Schwinn S7 rims for a 1958 ballooner he is restoring. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

   RE:WANTED:   Schwinn S7 26 posted by rd on 12/21/2000 at 2:50:06 PM
If you want some repro's Maple island can help you. If not Memory lane will will string them for you for a fee.

   RE:WANTED:   Schwinn S7 26 posted by sam on 12/22/2000 at 6:17:29 AM
S-7 are middle/weight rims.the best way to get them is off a girls bike. maple island has S-2 for balloon tires---sam

AGE / VALUE:   Identity Crisis posted by: Jim on 12/20/2000 at 9:54:17 PM
I picked up a bike along the side of a road that had a "for free" sign tied to it. I tied it to the roof of my ex- girlfriends car and have been in love ever since. It has been made for Sears, has a canitlever frame, german components, small bottom bracket and 1 3/8 inch tires. My question is how would you clasify such a bike? European heavyweight? American light weight? Light middle weight? (Do try to be kind, she is my daily driver)

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Identity Crisis posted by sam on 12/21/2000 at 7:58:30 AM
Kinda of an in-between.I'd call it a rodester

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Identity Crisis posted by Joel on 12/21/2000 at 8:32:46 AM
Sort of a light middleweight....How about a Welterweight?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Identity Crisis posted by Mike Stone on 12/21/2000 at 6:58:32 PM
Yes, I think I know just the bike you are talking about. Was it really made in Germany and not Austria? I have one in my garage waiting to be parted out.

I have seen a number of these. They are well made with good quality parts. I actually found one with the original papers. It was $5.00 at a church sale. Man, I should have bought it just for the historic reference. If I remember correctly, I think the date was 1957; a time just before the World was Alive with the Sound of Music and, apparently, bicycles from Austria too.

If you need any parts, let me know. I would be happy to help you.


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Identity Crisis posted by jim on 12/23/2000 at 3:42:15 PM
Your right about Austria. I figured it was early 70s so I did some cruel things to it like adding a MTB stem, bars, saddle and a three-speed coaster. Don't need parts but thank you for the offer.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Identity Crisis posted by tom on 12/24/2000 at 12:53:02 PM
I owned one of those sears 3spd bikes in 1962. austrian mfg. . was offered one from a co-worker last year for $30. purchased one 15 years ago at yard sale for $15. kept the lic. plate from it and sold that bike for $15. Don't be ashamed of any bikes you ride, some other poor guy is riding something worse. tom.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Teardrop Reflector posted by: Dan on 12/20/2000 at 1:06:47 PM
Can anyone tell me the first year for the teardrop or "s" reflector on Schwinn middleweights i.e. Corvette, Jaguar etc.I have a 55 Corvette which is missing the reflector and the fender only has one hole? Thanks

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Teardrop Reflector posted by sam on 12/20/2000 at 9:49:12 PM
got a 56 girls corvette with the old round reflector same as my 55 american

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Teardrop Reflector posted by Tom Findley on 12/21/2000 at 11:08:29 AM
Teardrop reflector first used in 1959. They were made of plastic and broke when backed into a wall. New ones now sell for $75+ on Ebay. You are lucky- you can get the round reflectors for $2 at bike swap meets.

FOR SALE:   Schwinn springer bolts posted by: Ray on 12/19/2000 at 8:37:44 AM
Check out these NOS bolts for your original Phantom or other Schwinn springer bikes.

MISC:   Schwinn Cadillac posted by: bicyclepriest on 12/19/2000 at 8:14:56 AM
Check out ebay item#1104882868. Says it is a Schwinn Cadillac.
I never heard of this type schwinn. This must be a custom or
is it?

   RE:MISC:   Schwinn Cadillac posted by Bob on 12/19/2000 at 1:04:30 PM
Schwinn bicycles badged Chicago Cycle Supply 'Cadillac' were sold/given away by Cadillac car dealers.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Schwinn Cadillac posted by Bob on 12/20/2000 at 10:36:14 AM
Oops. I just looked at the bike. Definitely a custom.

   paying $50 posted by xhtc@hotmail.com on 12/27/2000 at 9:17:07 AM
Seems to be a common fallicy that cadillac and packard bikes were given away by the respective auto cos. I have been seriously collecting bikes and memoribilia for 10 years and have NEVER seen an ad or document stating this to be the case and as such would offer $50 for such a piece. I believe that the bike cos esp disributers simply ripped off auto names with absolutely no connection or authority.
thanks for any contra input

   paying $50 posted by xhtc@hotmail.com on 12/27/2000 at 9:18:47 AM
Seems to be a common fallicy that cadillac and packard bikes were given away by the respective auto cos. I have been seriously collecting bikes and memoribilia for 10 years and have NEVER seen an ad or document stating this to be the case and as such would offer $50 for such a piece. I believe that the bike cos esp disributers simply ripped off auto names with absolutely no connection or authority.
thanks for any contra input

FOR SALE:   1964/65 Sears Spaceliner posted by: Matthew on 12/18/2000 at 8:23:06 PM
Hi everyone. About a year ago I bought a 1964/65 chrome Sears Spaceliner. I had the intent of fixing it up, but find myself with no time! I have decided to sell. Here are the stats:

-original black and white pedals
-original seat (black with silver trim)
-straight tank (not a y-tank)
-has original headilght lens and plastic peice, and still has horn and light button, but the horn unit is gone)
-has rack with legs (no lens, but light unit intact)
-spring fork
-original whitewall 26 x 1.75" Sears Allstate "Safety Tread"
-original grips
-new back tube
-straight all crhome frame good shape
-complete with plastic pedal crank cover
-has chainguard

The chrome is in need of a replate, and the tank could use some new paint
This is the four bar fram with the STRAIGHT TANK, NOT THE Y-SHAPED TANK

If interested, email me and negotiate price