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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

WANTED:   1953 phantom / wasp posted by: Casey on 5/16/2000 at 10:37:39 PM
I have a 1953 schwinn, either a phantom or a wasp. Its missing the headlight and springer someone put 24" wheels on it , supposed to have 26" . Has the tank, rear carrier, and correct chainguard, but its been painted 4 or 5 times what I need help on is how do I find out if its a phantom or the wasp?

   RE:WANTED:   1953 phantom / wasp posted by Kevin c on 5/17/2000 at 4:42:38 AM
Same frame, but Phantom has chrome fenders, headlight, deluxe saddle, springer, rack, etc. Wasp is a basic ballooner with painted fenders, although some had optional springers.

   RE:WANTED:   1953 phantom / wasp posted by sam on 5/18/2000 at 10:00:17 AM
Could it be a Streamliner?They had same frame and tank but the tank was not chrome.My book does not show a tank on the Wasp.Also try scraping a little of the paint from the head tube to see what color the original paint was.(on second though use steel wool to rub through the paint layers),if you find white(ivory)then it's a streamliner,wasp,or regular starlet.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   girls schwinn bike 3 speed posted by: c j ippolito on 5/16/2000 at 11:05:33 AM
schwinn 26 " blue girls fair lady.all org. equip.except for i tire.#c 119775.in good cond,but needs a good cleaning.stainless steel fenders.over 34 yrs old.3 speed. will ship pre paid.make offer (hand brakes)

BALLOON:   WANTED Colsons, Shelby's, rare I am a serious buyer posted by: joe on 5/15/2000 at 5:52:53 PM

WANTED Colsons, Shelby's, rare I am a serious buyer. I pay TOP DOLLAR for rare bicycles. COLSON, SHELBY, ELGINS, SCHWINN, ROADMASTER and others. If it has a tank on it I am interested. 20" Krates, Stingrays, Fastbacks, Choppers, Huffy almost anyone with or with out a stick shift. I buy them all, one piece or the collection. Parts, litature, manuals, lights, HIGH WHEELERS, EARLY TRICYCLES. PLEASE EMAIL ME DIRECTLY. I will call you or can call me on my toll free number. Thank you in advance.


   RE:BALLOON:   WANTED Colsons, Shelby's, rare I am a serious buyer posted by RON KAPICS on 8/17/2000 at 6:03:46 PM
I have a old evans colson rear steering tandem that i would be willing to sell, very good condition.

AGE / VALUE:   Flying Star posted by: Cindy on 5/15/2000 at 11:50:45 AM
I was wondering if anyone could give me info on a bike I purchased at a yard sale. It is a Schwinn and has all original parts a far as I can tell. It is a girl's bike with a long head light and basket in front and has Flying Star on it. The seat has schwinn on it too. The paint is not too bad but there is alot of rust on the tire rims and handle bars. Could someone tell me the year and value of it?

thanks, Cindy

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Flying Star posted by sam on 5/16/2000 at 7:13:52 AM
cindy,check out the serial number on this site.you should be able to find it on your bike neer where the rear wheel bolts on.flying stars were made as for back as 1955.some came with a 2-speed rear end.it is a middleweight(1.75)tire.M/W bikes are low priced & the flying stars were low priced bikes in the schwinn line when new,should rid good anyway.have fun!

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Columbia fenders posted by: Pee-Wee on 5/14/2000 at 11:02:19 AM
Hey ya'll, I need some help. I am trying to finish up my restoration project-a 1957 Columbia middleweight-and can't find any @#$% fenders for love or money! If you can help out, I'd appreciate it! Thank you in advance, Pee-Wee.

MISC:   headbadge removal posted by: sam on 5/14/2000 at 10:02:51 AM
rifs post on the b-6 reminded me I've been meaning to ask what is the most gent-teel way to remove a headbadge? The schwinns used a slotted screw (which is stright forward ) but many of the older bikes used screw shank nails to attach the headbadge.Any ideas?

   RE:MISC:   headbadge removal posted by Rif on 5/14/2000 at 10:38:10 AM
Excellent topic! That's something I'd like to know as well. Also, once removed and the work is done; are these little devils still available, and how does one go about replacing them?

   RE:RE:MISC:   headbadge removal posted by Jeff on 5/15/2000 at 5:44:29 AM
I've filed the heads off and then either pushed the stub back into the head tube or drilled it out. This could have a negative long-term impact on the steering bearings if you ride a lot, because the stub falls into the lower bearing.
This isn't an issue if you've taken the fork off.

I put scotch tape around the head so I don't scratch the headbadge. Then go to a hardware store and look at in their fastener bins for small screws to re-attach the headbadge.


   RE:MISC:   headbadge removal posted by ART on 5/15/2000 at 8:24:03 AM
Once off, how do you reshape it so that it fits as snuggly when you put it back on the tube as it did before you took it off. I've tried re-shaping it but I can't ever get it right?

   Try This ! posted by Ray on 5/16/2000 at 12:45:42 PM
On the fasteners that have a rounded blind head you will find that they helix or spiral into the head tube. These were driven in by a machine but will come out easily if you do this. First you will need a good sturdy pair of flat nose pliers. Lineman or Gas pliers will do. You will need a good pair not one that has been around the block and the tips no longer close flush. Once you have these then put some electrical tape over the badge to protect it. Grab the blind stub with the front of the flat jaws, squeeze firmly and twist slowly to the left. The blind stud should back out nicely. To replace just tap back in place. Hope this helps.

   RE:Try This ! posted by Joel on 5/16/2000 at 1:55:52 PM
I've had success with the above method most of the time. If that doesn't work, I try prying the screws loose gently with a putty knife or thin screwdriver under the badge, then pulling them out with pliers.

   RE:MISC:   headbadge removal posted by Rif on 5/16/2000 at 6:21:28 PM
Thanks for the hip tips! You've been very informative and helpful.
Rif 'The creature from the black leather lagoon' Addams

   RE:MISC:   headbadge removal posted by wayne on 5/22/2000 at 4:53:59 PM
I take a bar and from the inside of the head tube place an end on the screw/rivit and push it out so it loosens the badge slightly. This gives you room to work, then using the good ole dremel tool I use a grindind wheel appropriate to gring the head down. Then simply take a small punch and push the piece out by hitting it from the outside and knocking it in.

BALLOON:   WANTED: 1931-1940 SHELBY AIRFLOW posted by: erwin on 5/12/2000 at 3:54:27 PM
I am looking for a 1931-40 Shelby Airflow in red/white color.
Please e-mail me a picture with the price and condition.
Or if anybody can recommend a person or a store that might have it.


BALLOON:   Columbia W-28068 What is it? posted by: Mary Pfeiffer on 5/11/2000 at 8:16:59 AM
I have a Columbia with this serial #. The tank looks like the 3 and 5 star, but the fork does not have a spring. I have no chainguard. Please email me.

Mary Pfeiffer

   RE:BALLOON:   Columbia W-28068 What is it? posted by TOny on 5/11/2000 at 9:04:11 AM
I think it would be a 3-star. I think only the 5-star has a springer. On the other had, I think the 3-stars and 5-stars have their model name written on the downtube, so maybe it is an early Fire-arrow?

BALLOON:   After the MS 30/60 ride. posted by: Jeff in Minnesota on 5/10/2000 at 10:20:45 PM
I made it! Started at 7:45 in the morning and the ride was on a state paved trail for the first 13 miles. It was a nice cool morning and I tried to "follow" riders that would keep me from losing a steady, slower pace. Hills weren't a problem on the state trail, but when it turned to blacktop and into the wind in the open I had two steep ones and made it up both, but had to stop at the top of the second one along with 5 others that had more speeds than me. Rest stops got a few people looking at the cruiser and at the split for the 30/60 a nice gentleman cheered for "something he hadn't seen in awhile". Got passed a bit and someone on a low, sit down, pedals in front bike (I do not know what to call it) said "excellent ride dude". And a few others that said it brought back memories of thier's or grandparents' bicycles. My mother and nephew volunteerd that morning and stayed until I finished. I finished at 10:30 A.M. before the heat and wind got worse. I was surprised about how fast I got done and how NOT sore I was. Alot of people asked if was comfortable and it is but heavy. Nothing broke, no rattles appeared and I did mount a radio on the horn tank (whats a little more weight?) I see a swap meet at Penn Cycle was posted. I hope to make it there. When I get pictures I hope to post a couple here if possible. Is Schwinn a good place to order parts? I hope to oreder fenders and a tank for next year's ride. If anyone wants to meet at the swap meet please e-mail me. Thanks for everyone's support! Jeff

   RE:BALLOON:   After the MS 30/60 ride. posted by Glenn P. on 5/11/2000 at 7:38:27 AM
Congratulations! Glad to hear you made it. The sit down bike is called a "recumbent". Any Schwinn dealer can sell you the Schwinn line of retro/repop bolt on parts. Some of the mailorder places even discount the parts. The Schwinn forum is also a good site to find the old parts. Old roads also has some bolt on goodies.

Glenn P.
Portland, Oregon

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   After the MS 30/60 ride. posted by TOny on 5/11/2000 at 9:06:40 AM
Great job! You've got guts!

BALLOON:   help please? Pre-War cantilever Schwinn... posted by: Rif Addams on 5/10/2000 at 10:31:37 PM
Hello all,
I am begining the total frame up restomization of a Schwinn pre-war cantilever frame, (this is the ONLY way to save it, otherwise I'd just clean it up and repack the bearings, etc...). It may be a B-6. It has the locking springer fork w/ front drum brake, and speedo gear. It has the wide schwinn bars, a large 'Phantom' type sprocket, and the 'Phantom' type seat.
What I need from anyone who can help is this: Pictures, literature, advertisements, and ANY information on this bike. I need as much info as I can get my hands on before I start into this. I just aquired the assembly/disassembly diagrams and key codes (All 500!!!) for the locking assy.
PLEASE, if you can assist me I would me most grateful.
Thanks in advance,
Rif Addams

   RE:BALLOON:   help please? OOPS! I forgot... posted by Rif on 5/10/2000 at 10:44:37 PM
I forgot to mention that it also has the "WORLD" headbadge...
Thanks again,

   RE:BALLOON:   help please? Pre-War cantilever Schwinn... posted by sam on 5/12/2000 at 11:56:19 AM
Rif,what color combinations or on the bike?I think b-6 were cream with several other main color(blue,black,etc)very little chrome.does your bike have the pre-war style chain gard? I found a 1952 phamtom and i.d. it when I removed the fork cups and found red under them.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   help please? Pre-War cantilever Schwinn... posted by Rif Addams on 5/12/2000 at 6:26:42 PM
This bike is a frame, forks, brake hub, and bars only sort of deal, (That's why I got it for so cheap).
The color Scheme is Black w/ white (cream) diamonds/points, and red pinstripes around the white points.
She's pretty rought o look at right now but I have tracked down a fair amount of the parts I need, so I can at least get started. I need to lace the rims. What size spokes were used on these?
I really do appreciate your help in this,

   RE:BALLOON:   help please? Pre-War cantilever Schwinn... posted by sam on 5/14/2000 at 6:09:39 AM
rif,e-mail me at samclingo@hotmail.com and send me an adress and I'll mail you of what i got(not a lot)but might help.I don't know the length of spokes for the expander hub.Is where a bicycle shop near that does restorations? If so check with them,if not then let me know and I ask the shope near me.

BALLOON:   Cherokee chainguard posted by: Skeet on 5/8/2000 at 7:06:35 PM
I have a balloon type bike with no identification on it
except an Indian head and the word Cherokee on the chainguard.
Can anyone identify this or point me in the right direction
as to the manufacturer?

MISC:   A Schwinn I whiffed on posted by: Fred on 5/6/2000 at 7:27:09 PM
About 4 years ago I stopped in a shop in my area that I seldom visit and saw a gorgeous Schwinn on the show floor. I was new to the game then so forgive me if I don't know some of the details. I think it was a 3 speed and similar in layout to the Varsity types of the 70's. It was a tall bike, probably 25 inches and painted in a two-tone grey green combination. Quite unusual and very attractive. The bike was so nice that at first I thought it was new. I asked the dealer if I could mount it and she agreed. It was a real stretch for me at 5'10". I then asked her what a bike like that was worth and she replied, "oh, about $50". I went on my way. A few days later I went back and got the impression that she didn't remember me so I asked her again what she would have to have for the bike. This time she put a price of "at least $100". Inflation had set in. I didn't realize until I gained more experience and acquired a few Schwinns that I stepped in it when I didn't take it for $50.

   RE:MISC:   A Schwinn I whiffed on posted by BillG on 5/9/2000 at 6:17:25 AM
A few years ago a guy in town was selling his Sting-Ray collection. I didn't have much interest in those bikes (still don't) and passed on them. I remember a 1964 or 1965 "lime" Sting-Ray and a 1973 "sunset orange" disc brake Sting-Ray Krate. Plus coppertone bikes, and several standard Krates. $3000 for the load of 8 bikes in all and I passed it up. After doing some research and thinking about it for a couple days I called him back but the collection was gone. The load was probably worth $10 grand back then, and who know what it would be worth today.

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn American posted by: ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 5/6/2000 at 8:53:55 AM
I saw a pair of Schwinn American boys bicycles at a garage sale the pair for $300.00 I passed on em' but what are these going for these days? I am currious. I have never heard of the name American in the Schwinn range.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn American posted by kevin c. on 5/6/2000 at 12:34:16 PM
Here in Indiana, a nice Schwinn American would bring $50 or so. I have sold them for less.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn American posted by ChristopherRobin on 5/7/2000 at 9:34:58 AM
I thought so,Thanks!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn American posted by sam on 5/7/2000 at 7:18:29 PM
the delux 2-speed would bring a little more,but I got one off ebay for under $50.saw two later sell for $300(both delux models 1956 or so)also would add the american delux had a front hand not used on any other model.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn American posted by ChristopherRobin on 5/8/2000 at 6:37:38 AM
Thanks, These were plain with the single speed red band hub.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn American posted by b dodge on 5/13/2000 at 6:29:30 PM
i have a 63 american needs tlc all orig blk pait mens 26 s-7 rims wrong color seat but looks right make offer over 70.00 plus shipping rides well chrome good fenders have dents thanks bd

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn American posted by b dodge on 5/13/2000 at 6:29:43 PM
i have a 63 american needs tlc all orig blk pait mens 26 s-7 rims wrong color seat but looks right make offer over 70.00 plus shipping rides well chrome good fenders have dents thanks bd

MISC:   2000 Bicycle Show & Swap Meet posted by: David N. on 5/5/2000 at 5:36:43 PM
Bicycle show and swap meet June 4 2000 at Penn Cycle Bloomington Minn. for the Minnesota Antique&Classic Bicycle Club.located in the Valley West Shopping Center 3916 west old shakopee rd.off US.HWY 169. hrs. 6am-2pm Sun.

AGE / VALUE:   Check it out! posted by: ChristopherRobin on 5/4/2000 at 7:20:17 AM
E-bay item #322178866 "Antique Race bicycle "De Dion Bouton" (at $300.00 presently) First De Dion Bouton I have seen outside of a museaum and a wonderful yellow shade of paintwork! Nice! Not my auction, Thought I let you know