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FOR SALE:   For Sale Page Updated posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 7/30/2000 at 2:04:00 PM
We've just updated our "Bicycles and Parts For Sale" page. You can get to it
using the links at the top of this page. We've added some Ballooner, Musclebike,
English and Vintage Lightweight bicycles and parts. We've also added a couple
*Motorized Bicycles*.

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AGE / VALUE:   51 panther green? girls bike posted by: ron on 7/30/2000 at 11:47:42 AM
i got a 51 schwinn panther girls bike she is green and missing her light and i dont know if these came with a tank/horn sh does not have one i payed two dollars at an auction she has a nine hole rack spring thing fork? and big tires that say goodyear "all weather" all stickers are in tact and her badge is perfect i guess i am lucky to find her but what is she worth should she be restored or left alone are the missing parts around and if so how much? is ther a book of specs?? please help

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   51 panther green? girls bike posted by Wings on 8/2/2000 at 12:58:11 AM
A good book is "Evolution of the Bicycle, vol 2" and it can be purchased at Old Roads I believe. On page 143 The pictures of Schwinn Panthers start. P. 144 has a great picture of a restored girls 1950 Panther. It has a Springer, rack, etc. Parts are available on Ebay and also from Maple Island or Memory Lane Classics.
Girls bikes are not as valuable as boys bikes. However the Panther is one of the best collector bikes. For value check "Schwinn Panther" on ebay--however prices may vary at different times of year.

AGE / VALUE:   Evans Bicycle, has Flat fenders posted by: Gary Main on 7/29/2000 at 6:49:21 PM
Anyone know anything about vans Bikes? I have a real nice older ladies model, and wonder if its worth restoring

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Evans Bicycle, has Flat fenders posted by VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 7/30/2000 at 2:02:47 PM
Evans and Evans Colson bicycles are very hard to find. Take good care of it.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Evans Bicycle, has Flat fenders posted by Rif Addams on 7/30/2000 at 9:22:39 PM
Wow, I had somethin even better than what I thought I had!
I have an old Colson-Evans boys cantilever bike with peaked chrome fenders, I just hung it up in my shop and figured I'd get to it when I got to it. I paid 40 bucks for it. It has middleweight wheels (26"x 1.75").
Well, that's cool...

BALLOON:   Just ramblin' on about nothin'... posted by: Rif Addams on 7/29/2000 at 5:48:18 PM
Well Kids,
I've been away from the Mssg. Board for awhile. So I thought I'd ramble on a bit about my current project.
I finally picked up some parts and frame from my storage/shop area. I then went and bought some parts from my local bike guy.
There are two bikes in particular I've been Kustomizing. Before anyone gets all hacked off at me for "destroying" valuable old bikes, I follow the 50% rule of thumb, if the bike is at least 50% there, I just give it a good refurbishing. if not then I Kustomize it.
I'm working on a mid fifties Hawthorne Lightweight. I have Replace the forged onepiece steel crank with an Odessey 'Black Widow' three piece sealed bearing Aluminum crank. I had to machine some spacers on my lathe to get it to fit and clear the chaingaurd properly. The lightweight alloy 26"x1 3/8" rims I ordered came in the other day. I am in the process of lacing them to an old Sears (Sturmey-Archer style) 3-speed rear hub, and am machining the front hub and axle from aluminum and titanium for sealed bearings.
I have installed an aluminum b.m.x. neck, with cut down '73 Honda CB 350 handlebars, and black Schwinn 'Teardrop" grips.
The frame, fenders, forks, and neck are black. The brake and shift cables are white. The seat is red.
I call it the Black widow because when I first brought it home, I started cleaning it and Alice Cooper's 'Black Widow' Started playing on the radio. When I noticed it was all black with a red seat; well, that was the inspiration.
The other one, which I just started on yesterday, is a 1938 Elgin Twin Bar frame I had picked up for 50 bucks. A fair deal, the frame is in good shape. I Bought a set of Dyno Kustom Kruiser series 'Fireball' tires that have flames for treads. I have de-rusted and primered a set of Pre War26"x2 1/8" Rims. I will be lacing these onto a Bendix Red Band two-speed automatic coaster brake hub, and a Schwinn approved front hub. I have a set of fenders and rear rack from god-knows-what, but they'll work. I hope to pick up one of the repop chrome springer front fork assemblies and we-work it a bit to make it less cheesy, and more rigid and rideable.
I am fabricating full wheel skirts for it (Indian motocycle style) with silver "landau bar" graphics on the rear ones (Kinda like a hearse). I have an old Colson-Evans Crank and chaingaurd for it, and Dyno Kustom Kruiser handlebars. So far that's all I got on that one. I call it "the Phantasm".
Well, thanks for letting me =waste a lot of time and space.
Keep on Keepin' on,

   RE:BALLOON:   Just ramblin' on about nothin'... posted by JimW. on 7/29/2000 at 11:31:18 PM
If you don't send a picture of the finished bike to the
BikeRod&Kustom Gallery, you may expect a visit from the
BR&K "death's head" enforcement squad. Consider yerself warned, Bubba!

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Just ramblin' on about nothin'... posted by Rif on 7/31/2000 at 8:46:16 PM
Oh, you bet I will! I'm actually surprised with how well it's all fitting together. I thought I'd have to do a lot more fabricating to make the modern light weight components work. It's all just going together real well.
The kustom front hub and axle is just because I want to be able to say "Yeah, I made that." :-} I have a bunch that I could have just rebuilt and laced, but where's the fun/challenge in that?!?!
B.T.W.- I love B.R.&K.! It's a great 'Magazine' (for lack of any other term).

BALLOON:   tandem ? posted by: ron on 7/29/2000 at 10:19:06 AM
I have what appears to be an old colson tandem,would like to find pictures or whatever.it has front &rear steering,is single speed and has a Morrow rear hubthanks for any help

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn "Rocket Ray" posted by: Larry on 7/29/2000 at 9:16:51 AM
There is a bicycle that I'd like to buy from a co-worker.It is a Schwinn "Rocket Ray".The serial number on the bottom of the crank housing is G126867 which according to the chart makes it a 1950 vintage. However, I can't find the model anywhere in the literature.It's in great shape and I would like to make him an offer but I need to find out what it's worth. Can you help?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn posted by bob on 7/30/2000 at 5:55:50 AM
Rocket Ray is a Delta headlight. They were used on several Schwinn models as well as other brands. Discribe the bike.

AGE / VALUE:   SCHWINN MESSENGER posted by: MP on 7/29/2000 at 6:09:05 AM
Please post any information on a Schwinn Messenger camelback middleweight from the 50's (can't make out serial #). This is one that I've not heard a lot about. Was this anything special?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   SCHWINN MESSENGER posted by bob on 7/30/2000 at 5:58:04 AM
Again, Messenger is a brand of seat. You might have a Racer.

MISC:   Automotive Names posted by: Stan on 7/28/2000 at 7:44:55 PM
Did Schwinn ever get in trouble for using automotive names such as "Corvette", "Jaguar", Sting Ray", "Super Sport", or "Catalina"?? That makes it three Chevys, one Poncho and one that had Lucas electric components.

   RE:MISC:   Automotive Names posted by sam on 7/29/2000 at 3:11:48 PM
They also sold under other Gen.Motors names like LaSalle.Several other models such as American and phamton were also used as auto names at times

   RE:MISC:   Automotive Names posted by Adam G. on 7/29/2000 at 6:37:24 PM
I don't know anything about Schwinn getting in trouble, but I bet the car companies loved the fact that those bikes were going to future car buyers!

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Hiawatha posted by: Stuart on 7/27/2000 at 4:17:25 PM
I have a mens Hiawatha with a long slender tank with lights but dont know what the model is or how old it is. The serial number is 807A 102XXX stamped on the frame at the rear tire. Would anyone out there happens to have a list of there serial numbers that might be able to tell me a little about it? Thank you.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Catalina??? posted by: BruceO on 7/27/2000 at 8:05:59 AM
Has anyone ever heard of a Schwinn Catalina?? My mother in-law has a friend that has one. She says it's "very rare" and one of a kind. I've never heard of this model. But I'm no expert. It's soppose to be all orginal. She want's $200.00 for it. Any help would be great.


   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Catalina??? posted by Gordon on 7/27/2000 at 10:43:18 AM
The Schwinn catalog reprints I have list a Catalina in 1959 available in either 24 or 26 inch. It doesn't appear in the 1960 list, so must have been one year only, which I guess would make it rarer than many models.

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Catalina??? posted by BruceO on 7/27/2000 at 1:49:14 PM
Thanks Gordon!! I found a pic here on the data base. It doesn't look like anything special. thanks again!! BruceO

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Catalina??? posted by dq on 8/3/2000 at 9:50:49 AM
Thats too much $. I had a pink and white one w/ the 6 pack front rack. Paint was about a 5-6 but was original. I sold it for $80.

   RE:RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Catalina??? posted by Mark on 8/10/2000 at 12:07:14 AM
BruceO, what database are you referring to? I am also
searching for the Catalina. Thanks.

AGE / VALUE:   COLUMBIA NEWSBOY BIKE posted by: Missy on 7/26/2000 at 8:10:18 PM
My husband has an old Columbia bike with big spokes and Newsboy on the side and messenger on the back with a basket on front. He has been told that this was one built for newpaper boys. Any guesses as to the age of this bike? Would love to know what year this bike is.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   COLUMBIA NEWSBOY BIKE posted by rex on 7/26/2000 at 10:34:40 PM
I'm not sure if it's the same bike but I have one that says "newsboy special" on the chain gaurd. If it's the its probably late forties, early fifties. Does it have a single tube right behind the seat post? Do you have a picture?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   COLUMBIA NEWSBOY BIKE posted by jd on 7/27/2000 at 7:08:37 AM
Check the serial # list on this site for the year. The newsboy was a low priced heavy duty bike mainly for newspaper delivery.

BALLOON:   Old Bike posted by: Zissy on 7/26/2000 at 12:56:38 PM
***Attention all that Read this*** this particular Bicycle Seller is very rude and I hope he/she will learn a lesson from this:

Well let me see I have been very ill and just got out of the hospital
this last weekend and I am catching up on my mail. Now I wonder who is
RUDE, and don't bother with an apology because your RUDE EMAIL SAYS IT
Don't let the clouds of Life ruin the Sunshine of Hope. ©Zissy
Fax# (401)696-7962

-----Original Message-----
From: "tntltd"
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 15:06:13 -0500
Subject: Old bike

>Zissy- You did state in your post that you were "picky"...you forgot
>to mention that you are also rude! Not answering an e-mail is wrong!
>Hasn't anyone ever explained to you internet protocol
> Best Regards, Tmmmjjj

   RE:BALLOON:   Old Bike posted by Oookay on 7/26/2000 at 7:17:14 PM
HUH??! Whatever!

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Old Bike posted by JimW. on 7/26/2000 at 11:53:48 PM
It's because the Schwinn lists are shut down.

   RE:BALLOON:   Old Bike posted by Perplexed on 7/28/2000 at 7:43:45 PM
Am I missing something here??

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Old Bike posted by Oookay on 7/29/2000 at 8:07:10 AM
Yes, but don't worry- we all are.

AGE / VALUE:   SCHWINN COLLEGIATE posted by: Jim on 7/26/2000 at 12:01:53 PM
Could anyone please tell me the value of a Schwinn Collegiate, serial number GL-55-73-29, red, 26 inch tires, ladies, all original, in excellent condition.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Goodyear HI-Way Patrol posted by: BruceO on 7/26/2000 at 7:44:52 AM
Hello everyone. I have the chance to pick up a ladys Columbia built Goodyear bike. I'm guessing it's no real rareity. But it would make a good rider for my wife. What would be a fair price to offer for this bike. As far as I can tell it's a 1963. s/n M491619. Thanks for any and all replys. BruceO

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Tanker posted by: Bob Wildfield on 7/25/2000 at 4:12:13 PM
I recently acquired a red Schwinn tanker model. The s/n is
B53418 which I believe makes it a "52" but, I'm having a hard time identifying the model. The decal is gone from the chaingaurd except where I can make out the word "Schwinn" in block style lettering. It has a tank like a Phantom and the headbadge is block style similar to the Phantom's of that era. It has S-7's, is a 3 speed hub marked "Made for Schwinn - Austria". The rear rack and tailight is Phantom style but the tail light appears to have a motion switch built in to turn it on and off instead of on all the time. The chainring is of the rounded center style not "heart" and it has a front springer rack. NOT the knee action fork. The handlebars are smaller and the chaingaurd is smaller (not feathered) than the Phantom style and it has chrome fenders. So my question is if I have described it well enough can someone please tell me what the model is so I can try to hunt down the correct repro decals? I've been told they did'nt make a 3 speed until the "54" Jaguar and yet here I have one. If anyone can shed some light on the history behind this one it would be greatly appreciated. Thanx, Bob.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Tanker posted by Gordon on 7/26/2000 at 5:16:45 AM
There's something strange here. I don't believe they introduced S7's until 1955. In the copy of Collectible Schwinn-Built Bicycles that I have, your number actually appears in the lists for 3 years!! 1952, 1953 and 1957. With the features you described, I'm inclined to think that 1957 is correct. The Mark II Jaguar had a 3 speed, front and rear carriers and caliper brakes. The Corvette had a 3 speed and front carrier, but I don't believe it was offered with a tank. Streamliner had a tank but was only a singlespeed, to the best of my knowledge. So, I'd vote for a 1957 Jaguar, especially since the picture looks exactly like the bike you describe.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Tanker posted by Joel on 7/26/2000 at 6:47:24 AM
I'd vote for Jaguar too. But the taillight you discribe sounds like a brake light. Did Jags come with those?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Tanker posted by sam on 7/27/2000 at 1:22:44 AM
Schwinn sold some bikes in the late 50s with sachs 3-speeds.I think they were called torando,but I though they were very low end bikes without all the extras.Is the rat trap front carrer a schwinn or wald?

   Mk 2 Jaguars had brake lights posted by Tom Findley on 7/27/2000 at 10:57:16 AM
My Mk 2 had a mercury brake light switch in it. It didn't work very well. This bike sounds like a Mk 2. If the tires are 26 X 1 3/4, it is.